Excellent comparison and great shots! One detail to point out additionally is the magenta cast of the M 240 seen at 19:00 in the video. I have seen the same - I called it an Kodak Ektar-like rendering in the camera. Sometimes magentas and blues get a bit over-saturated in the M 240 (making it look more film-like) which obviously is not the case with the M 10-R.
Always interesting to see comparatives and I think the low light comparisons are dramatic in terms of how each deals with noise. But in terms of rendering at lower ISOs I think you can also see some differences, even in shots where narrative implies equality. I am bringing this up because while both are 35mm focal lengths, they are quite different lenses with different characteristics - the Summicron being of the 1970's and the Summilux of modern heritage. The result being that you will get differences in color, chromatic aberration etc., I think this really showed in the shot of the bicycle taken in direct sun light and when you cropped in to the ground. I think both cameras are pleasing but really difficult to say how much the lens contributes to those perceptible differences in color vs. the color science of the sensor. Thanks for videos.
Thanks Robert, always welcome your comments. Yes the Summilux and Summicron lens do impact the results. Good point. I love the compact size of the f2. Summicron (1974) but love the better details/contrast of the larger Summilux (2014). 40 years of technological improvements shows. I've got my eye on the new 35mm APO Summicron.......!!!!
The M10-R is a fab camera.This seems to be a mpix sweet spot.I would reduce the Q2 to 40 ish mpix and it would be a stunning performer.I enjoy these comparisons.Thanks for your efforts.
What is the point of doing these comparisons if you are using different lenses on each camera from completely different time periods and cost categories?
Thanks for watching. Agreed, not the most scientific comparison. In my case, I am limited to what lenses are available to me. My goal of this comparison was to see the differences between the respective sensors at high ISO's of the 2 cameras. I have compared the 2 lenses in past videos. At high ISO's, there is very little observable difference between the lenses. Fading light was a problem. Cost is relevant and different to each viewer. I guess one conclusion you could make is the M240 is good value compared to the M10-R. Others might justify the higher cost of the M10-R for its unique advantages over the M240. Thanks for commenting.
The comparison is actually the RAW DNG files. For the video production, the RAW files were converted to JPG's. The JPG's look exactly the same as the RAW files once converted to JPG's using Lightroom. I do mention this at 10:49 in the video.
Представляю насколько это крипово, чувак на улице с двумя камерами, разговаривает с третьей камерой, и снимает картинки, которые в принципе можно снять на iPhone 🙈
Here is the English translation.I can imagine how creepy it is, a dude on the street with two cameras, talking to a third camera, and takes pictures that, in principle, can be shot on an iPhone 🙈 So my reply, thanks for watching. Things we do for entertainment. No explaining it. Have fun.
Unfair almost fraudulent comparison when you reduce the files to the same size although the resolution of the m10r is almost 80% higher. Also never do these kind of comparisons shooting handheld.
Excellent comparison and great shots! One detail to point out additionally is the magenta cast of the M 240 seen at 19:00 in the video. I have seen the same - I called it an Kodak Ektar-like rendering in the camera. Sometimes magentas and blues get a bit over-saturated in the M 240 (making it look more film-like) which obviously is not the case with the M 10-R.
Thanks for the info! Very useful.
Always interesting to see comparatives and I think the low light comparisons are dramatic in terms of how each deals with noise. But in terms of rendering at lower ISOs I think you can also see some differences, even in shots where narrative implies equality. I am bringing this up because while both are 35mm focal lengths, they are quite different lenses with different characteristics - the Summicron being of the 1970's and the Summilux of modern heritage. The result being that you will get differences in color, chromatic aberration etc., I think this really showed in the shot of the bicycle taken in direct sun light and when you cropped in to the ground. I think both cameras are pleasing but really difficult to say how much the lens contributes to those perceptible differences in color vs. the color science of the sensor. Thanks for videos.
Thanks Robert, always welcome your comments. Yes the Summilux and Summicron lens do impact the results. Good point. I love the compact size of the f2. Summicron (1974) but love the better details/contrast of the larger Summilux (2014). 40 years of technological improvements shows. I've got my eye on the new 35mm APO Summicron.......!!!!
The M10-R is a fab camera.This seems to be a mpix sweet spot.I would reduce the Q2 to 40 ish mpix and it would be a stunning performer.I enjoy these comparisons.Thanks for your efforts.
Thanks for watching and commenting. More comparisons coming.
M240P seems good enough. I shall keep on using M240.
Good choice. We all have to work out for ourselves when and if updates are justified.
I have not seen any reason to upgrade. In fact I do prefer a less ' perfect ' image from a camera.
What is the point of doing these comparisons if you are using different lenses on each camera from completely different time periods and cost categories?
Thanks for watching. Agreed, not the most scientific comparison. In my case, I am limited to what lenses are available to me. My goal of this comparison was to see the differences between the respective sensors at high ISO's of the 2 cameras. I have compared the 2 lenses in past videos. At high ISO's, there is very little observable difference between the lenses. Fading light was a problem. Cost is relevant and different to each viewer. I guess one conclusion you could make is the M240 is good value compared to the M10-R. Others might justify the higher cost of the M10-R for its unique advantages over the M240. Thanks for commenting.
Why you are comparing jpeg files? Makes no sense
The comparison is actually the RAW DNG files. For the video production, the RAW files were converted to JPG's. The JPG's look exactly the same as the RAW files once converted to JPG's using Lightroom. I do mention this at 10:49 in the video.
@@Adventure8 they have both 6000*4000 resolution which is not possible
Unfair comparison when you reduce the files to the same size although the resolution of the m10r is almost 80% higher.
Представляю насколько это крипово, чувак на улице с двумя камерами, разговаривает с третьей камерой, и снимает картинки, которые в принципе можно снять на iPhone 🙈
Here is the English translation.I can imagine how creepy it is, a dude on the street with two cameras, talking to a third camera, and takes pictures that, in principle, can be shot on an iPhone 🙈
So my reply, thanks for watching. Things we do for entertainment. No explaining it. Have fun.
Unfair almost fraudulent comparison when you reduce the files to the same size although the resolution of the m10r is almost 80% higher. Also never do these kind of comparisons shooting handheld.
Thanks for watching and commenting.