Kudos to you for patience sir! I could not measure my powder like that lol. I bought a Redding PR50 powder measure that works flawlessly and really quick. Your videos are great and I always enjoy them. Thanks for the good content and practical approach to things.
I'm only now getting into shooting and I will order an AI AT- X I will watch your reloading when required to learn the finer points of reloading. Very informative indeed good effort well done. Regards from Scotland
Evening Kurt,, just picked up my first box of ELD-m for my Ruger Precision Rifle in .243, was glad to see you had the new Hornady Book, can't find one around here this week. Got good info off the data page you showed, as I like to load mine with the H4831SC, I was working up load data based off the data from the newest nosler book for that powder with the 107 nosler. I've always noticed that they (Nosler) tend to publish on the down side of things (for safety reasons I assume). I was gonna start my test loads at 41.5 and work up in .5 increments to a top test load of 43.5,...now I see from the hornady book I would have been running way lower than I would have liked. Kudos on that sir!! I'm gonna adjust my data accordingly and save myself some time and powder!! lol I've been runnin the 105 amax since they came out and was kinda pissed to hear they discontinued em, I really liked em, and the coyotes, well, they had no comments. As to date the top shot on a 'yote outta that ruger with the A-max for me was 2 dogs at 712 yds, in under a minute. Just love it when they run to their buddy to see why it just laid down all the sudden.
brad branch the Amax bullets were awesome on many levels.! I might do some coyote hunting tomorrow if the weather hold out. I’d like to bring my cameras and record it all..!
I load a dummy round with the bullet seated about 1/10th inch into the case neck. I then load it and close the bolt, the pushes the bullet against the lands. Now just measure the OAL and you have the bullet depth needed to seat against the lands. You the just adjust the seating die for another seating depth in increments of .0010. Simple and saves money.
Great vid. Just ordered the basic kit to start reloading my own .243 so nice to see a video which explains it in a straightforward way. Some vids just leave you more confused if your a beginner! Thanks for putting this on as it's made it so much clearer for me as regards OAL and so on.
No problem, thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I'll be doing about 10 to 15 more videos on the current .243 I'm building and doing load development for a new rifle. I suspect you'll see some highs and lows of what it really takes start to finish. I'll even be posting the bad groups and why I think it didn't work as well as posting the ones that do and why! Stay tuned and thanks again! Curt
Styledog G thanks for the comment. I've started a Reloading-101 series that I'll continue working on. If your new to reloading I welcome you to follow along. What caliber are you shooting.?
I will start out shooting factory 6mm Creedmoor the 108's seen in your video. I am having my rifle smithed at Area 419. I was given the opportunity to shoot 1 event locally with a few other competition shooters and was hooked since. I am trying to learn as much as I can. again your video is exactly what I was looking for. I am now putting together a minimal reloading list for tools needed and get the book seen here
Can you tell me what the overall length of the bullet is. I am trying to put it in my ballistics calculator before I decide to purchase them. It is asking for the bullet length. Thanks!!
I like the camp paint job on your 243 rifle and scope be nice if you could do a video on something like that I have a savage model 12 in 308 that I would like to do the same thing to just want to make sure it's done right and it doesn't come off keep the videos coming love them👍🏻
Hello and thanks for your video. Did I see you using Magnum LR primers, if so why? Doesn’t the reload manual state standard LR FED 210 primers? Also, does your barrel have a 1 in 8 twist barrel to stabilize 108 gn ELD Match bullets, as the notation at the bottom of the page states? My Hornady 11th edition book shows that a 1 in10 common twist barrel in .243 Win gen has stabilization only up to their 90 gr GMX (item 2444) with a G1 B.C. of 0.422 and max C.O.L. of 2.710 which also is SAAMI Max COL for the .243 Win. Hornady also shows their 100 gr. Interlock BTSP (item 2453) G1 B.C. of 0.405, C.O.L. of 2.630, as working with a 1 in 10 twist barrel. I sure would love to shoot those longer match bullets, but they require a 1 in 9 for their 103 & 105 gn. Match Bullets, and a 1 in 8 for their 108 gn. and 110 gn. Match Bullets. My barrel is a 1 in 10 twist. 🙁
Just want to warn you about ultra sound cleaners, acoording to a study from the UK hearing loss can occur from being too close to a running ultra sound cleaners because of the vibration. I´ve experienced headaches myself when I´ve been loading besides the cleaner. My solution to this has been to run it in unoccupied room, so that I can´t hear the cleaner. Great loading video, always learn something new. Just bought a RCBS neck turner after your video on it, never knew that the thickness of the neck could vary that much. I´m switching to Lapua or Norma brass soon. Is the ball micrometer essential for neck turning? It´s out of my budget for now but I might buy it later if it helps consistency.
BushcraftJones that would explain why I wear hearing aids now.! Didn't know that about the ultrasonic cleaners, good info. Yes, the ball micrometer is almost a must for precision reloading. Save up, it's well worth it.!
When you held up your shot target 1-5 what was the difference between each load ? Was it length or charge weight ? And if it's was length increments what do you start at off the lands and move in what amounts ? Thanks. Sorry so many questions and sorry if you've talked about in other video's haven't watched them all. Yet. Nice video's very informative.
Brycen5525 well it's a combination of both. However I used the same charge weight on all of them. I start off at the seating depth Hornady specs recommend and move .005 until I'm on the rifle lands. I find with these I'm .010 off the lands and that's the best group for me. The further away the more the group opens up.
Coyote termal performance results?? Thank you!! Im am thinking about building a 6mm-06 and using the 108 ELD's if they have similar terminal performance as the Amax.
Great vid, I built a 243 on a remington action, krieger 1/8 twist remington varmint contour crowned at 20". I am currently shooting the hornady superformance 75 grain VMAX and shoot under 1/2" groups but that is the only factory round that I shoot that shoots less than 1", and the hornady superformance is so inconsistent I built this rifle strictly for predator hunting and that is all that I use it for, so I want to keep using a rapid expanding bullet. I want to load some 87 grain VMAX but do not know what to power to use. I have one pound of Varget and 100 new pieces of Hornady brass and would like to try that. What suggestions do you have?
Jacob Waitman in my wife's rifle we run the 87gr vmax bullets and 41gr of Hybrid 100V. She can get under 1/2 MOA. We are also seating them about .010 off the lands.
For the proper O Give measurement wouldn’t you want your modified case to be a fired case for that gun because if you’re not bumping back the shoulder and you’re only next sizing your ogive will not be correct using a non-fire case.
Hey Vaughan. How do you think these 108 gr will shoot out of a 1:9 twist 22" barrel? P.s love your vids mate, you're a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for sharing. Luke. NZ.
Nice video man. I cant believe you dont spend the money on a electric powder scale despencer tho? Id go bat shit crazy if I charged my rounds like that!!!
ApexKnives tough to say for sure, but you should be able to run 85-95 gr bullets without issue. 95 could be questionable, it’s right on the line. Anything in the 100+ probably won’t shoot well, however I’ve seen some 1-9 rifles that will shoot them.
I have a Remington 700 243 26" heavy contour long range 1: 9 twist. steel bedded with pillars leupold 6-24x50 mil reticle ffp I shoot the 95 , 100 and the 103 grain they shoot really nice. it's all about experimentation powder charge weight , bullet seating depth and primer .I use the FED match primers in all of my recipes. but I have countless Bricks of many other brands for backup. I have never used the hodgdon's 100 powder can anyone tell me if it is temp sensitive
Hey, I love your vidoes. One question on bullet seating...with the stoney point/hornary seating guauge, you are using the factory modified case which I would guess is sized to factory specs.. Have you ever tried making your own modified case from a fire-formed case so that you know it's accurate in a particular rifle? I've tried this, but the neck is always too tight and won't let a bullet slide out to the lands. Seems to me that you need to use a case fired in your chamber to be truly accurate, though I understand that its' all relative. Thanks for the awesome videos! My only complaint is that I stay up way too late watching!!!
Hey Brian, yes I've made some cases in the past. Drilled them out and tapped them to fit the rod. You can use a Lee Collet die to squeeze the neck down without going to far. Regular dies won't work for this. Use light pressure with the Lee Collet die and slowly work it down to where the bullet has a tiny bit of resistance. It's not necessary to use a fired case, but every little bit helps.
If you start off with the fired case, the bullet should drop right through the neck without contact. If thats not happening you have other problems. If it is dropping through, then lightly run it through the Lee Collet with minimal pressure until you have slight resistance on the bullet but still be able to move it with your fingers.
That makes sense. I wanted to bump the shoulder though, so that my modified case would exactly match my loaded rounds. Using a full-length die backed off to just bump, the neck was sized and is too tight. Is there a way to bump the shoulder without sizing the neck? I really appreciate your help!
Great video, buy the way who made your deburing tool , I like the length of it. I am doing some reloading for the 350 rem. mag. and you realy help out with your videos.
👌, a-max is shooting realy good in my blaser 1-8" tvist but berger 105gr is shooting realy bad :-( and The recomended tvist for berger is 1:7 so maby thats The problem,. I will test the Eld-x when it comes to sweden..
I'm using a 1-8 twist Shilen Varmint 26" barrel. Very happy with the Shilen Barrels, I have them on a few rifles and will be putting another on a rifle I'm getting ready to build. I'd like to try a 1-7 twist for the .243 but they are very hard to find right now.
Gotta love the 243 and the 7mm Rem Mag. Most important task in reloading of every step is consistency.
Kudos to you for patience sir! I could not measure my powder like that lol. I bought a Redding PR50 powder measure that works flawlessly and really quick. Your videos are great and I always enjoy them. Thanks for the good content and practical approach to things.
I've been reloading for 42 years I think you have a firm grasp
Just got my 243 and am ready to jump into rolling my own.....great info.
I'm only now getting into shooting and I will order an AI AT- X I will watch your reloading when required to learn the finer points of reloading. Very informative indeed good effort well done.
Regards from Scotland
Evening Kurt,, just picked up my first box of ELD-m for my Ruger Precision Rifle in .243, was glad to see you had the new Hornady Book, can't find one around here this week. Got good info off the data page you showed, as I like to load mine with the H4831SC, I was working up load data based off the data from the newest nosler book for that powder with the 107 nosler. I've always noticed that they (Nosler) tend to publish on the down side of things (for safety reasons I assume). I was gonna start my test loads at 41.5 and work up in .5 increments to a top test load of 43.5,...now I see from the hornady book I would have been running way lower than I would have liked. Kudos on that sir!! I'm gonna adjust my data accordingly and save myself some time and powder!! lol I've been runnin the 105 amax since they came out and was kinda pissed to hear they discontinued em, I really liked em, and the coyotes, well, they had no comments. As to date the top shot on a 'yote outta that ruger with the A-max for me was 2 dogs at 712 yds, in under a minute. Just love it when they run to their buddy to see why it just laid down all the sudden.
brad branch the Amax bullets were awesome on many levels.! I might do some coyote hunting tomorrow if the weather hold out. I’d like to bring my cameras and record it all..!
Excellent round for deer hunting in the South as well as the 162 amax in the 7 mag.
That tool is slick I never knew hornady made it. I'm definitely getting one
I load a dummy round with the bullet seated about 1/10th inch into the case neck. I then load it and close the bolt, the pushes the bullet against the lands.
Now just measure the OAL and you have the bullet depth needed to seat against the lands. You the just adjust the seating die for another seating depth in increments of .0010. Simple and saves money.
Great vid. Just ordered the basic kit to start reloading my own .243 so nice to see a video which explains it in a straightforward way. Some vids just leave you more confused if your a beginner! Thanks for putting this on as it's made it so much clearer for me as regards OAL and so on.
No problem, thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I'll be doing about 10 to 15 more videos on the current .243 I'm building and doing load development for a new rifle. I suspect you'll see some highs and lows of what it really takes start to finish. I'll even be posting the bad groups and why I think it didn't work as well as posting the ones that do and why! Stay tuned and thanks again!
Curt
Great video. I look forward to getting into reloading
Styledog G thanks for the comment. I've started a Reloading-101 series that I'll continue working on. If your new to reloading I welcome you to follow along. What caliber are you shooting.?
I will start out shooting factory 6mm Creedmoor the 108's seen in your video. I am having my rifle smithed at Area 419. I was given the opportunity to shoot 1 event locally with a few other competition shooters and was hooked since. I am trying to learn as much as I can. again your video is exactly what I was looking for. I am now putting together a minimal reloading list for tools needed and get the book seen here
Can you tell me what the overall length of the bullet is. I am trying to put it in my ballistics calculator before I decide to purchase them. It is asking for the bullet length. Thanks!!
I like the camp paint job on your 243 rifle and scope be nice if you could do a video on something like that I have a savage model 12 in 308 that I would like to do the same thing to just want to make sure it's done right and it doesn't come off keep the videos coming love them👍🏻
Excellent video quality reloading and data collecting. You should term it string #1,2,3... Shot when folks hear it its a single shot
Thank you for a great video. Wonderful attention to detail. Subscribing to your channel!!
Hello and thanks for your video. Did I see you using Magnum LR primers, if so why? Doesn’t the reload manual state standard LR FED 210 primers? Also, does your barrel have a 1 in 8 twist barrel to stabilize 108 gn ELD Match bullets, as the notation at the bottom of the page states?
My Hornady 11th edition book shows that a 1 in10 common twist barrel in .243 Win gen has stabilization only up to their 90 gr GMX (item 2444) with a G1 B.C. of 0.422 and max C.O.L. of 2.710 which also is SAAMI Max COL for the .243 Win. Hornady also shows their 100 gr. Interlock BTSP (item 2453) G1 B.C. of 0.405, C.O.L. of 2.630, as working with a 1 in 10 twist barrel. I sure would love to shoot those longer match bullets, but they require a 1 in 9 for their 103 & 105 gn. Match Bullets, and a 1 in 8 for their 108 gn. and 110 gn. Match Bullets. My barrel is a 1 in 10 twist. 🙁
Just want to warn you about ultra sound cleaners, acoording to a study from the UK hearing loss can occur from being too close to a running ultra sound cleaners because of the vibration. I´ve experienced headaches myself when I´ve been loading besides the cleaner. My solution to this has been to run it in unoccupied room, so that I can´t hear the cleaner.
Great loading video, always learn something new.
Just bought a RCBS neck turner after your video on it, never knew that the thickness of the neck could vary that much. I´m switching to Lapua or Norma brass soon. Is the ball micrometer essential for neck turning? It´s out of my budget for now but I might buy it later if it helps consistency.
BushcraftJones that would explain why I wear hearing aids now.! Didn't know that about the ultrasonic cleaners, good info.
Yes, the ball micrometer is almost a must for precision reloading. Save up, it's well worth it.!
When you held up your shot target 1-5 what was the difference between each load ? Was it length or charge weight ? And if it's was length increments what do you start at off the lands and move in what amounts ? Thanks. Sorry so many questions and sorry if you've talked about in other video's haven't watched them all. Yet. Nice video's very informative.
Brycen5525 well it's a combination of both. However I used the same charge weight on all of them. I start off at the seating depth Hornady specs recommend and move .005 until I'm on the rifle lands. I find with these I'm .010 off the lands and that's the best group for me. The further away the more the group opens up.
Coyote termal performance results?? Thank you!! Im am thinking about building a 6mm-06 and using the 108 ELD's if they have similar terminal performance as the Amax.
Great job with the video. J.
Great vid, I built a 243 on a remington action, krieger 1/8 twist remington varmint contour crowned at 20". I am currently shooting the hornady superformance 75 grain VMAX and shoot under 1/2" groups but that is the only factory round that I shoot that shoots less than 1", and the hornady superformance is so inconsistent I built this rifle strictly for predator hunting and that is all that I use it for, so I want to keep using a rapid expanding bullet. I want to load some 87 grain VMAX but do not know what to power to use. I have one pound of Varget and 100 new pieces of Hornady brass and would like to try that. What suggestions do you have?
Jacob Waitman in my wife's rifle we run the 87gr vmax bullets and 41gr of Hybrid 100V. She can get under 1/2 MOA. We are also seating them about .010 off the lands.
Nice! I will try the 100V and see what happens any advice on the varget I already have?
Jacob Waitman not really. I don't have a ton of experience using that powder. It's said to be a good powder however
Thanks I will get some one the 100V what kind of muzzle velocity is she getting? And is it a factory barrel? if not what kind of barrel and length?
Jacob Waitman all factory savage model 11. She's getting just over 3100 fps
Good job
FYI: “Ogive” is pronounced,
o-jive.
For the proper O Give measurement wouldn’t you want your modified case to be a fired case for that gun because if you’re not bumping back the shoulder and you’re only next sizing your ogive will not be correct using a non-fire case.
Great series! Are you fire forming near full load?
dragonfly fab yep, all fire forming is close to max.
I'm a reloader wannabe-just asking a question; can you mark the bullet with a sharpie at the exact seating depth for an exact measurement?
Hey Vaughan.
How do you think these 108 gr will shoot out of a 1:9 twist 22" barrel?
P.s love your vids mate, you're a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for sharing.
Luke.
NZ.
Luke I don’t think they’ll work. You could always try them, but that’s a slow twist for a heavy bullet
Is it because of the bullet weight or because of bullet length that a faster twist is needed? Im learning a lot of shhtuff here.
Jake bullet weight, length, sectional density and ogive all are affected by the rpm of the bullet. Usually the faster spin, the more stable.
The RCBS Neck sizing die in your video , is there no bushings? Learning about neck sizing dies and there confusing ....lol
JT not on that die, they do make dies that are bushing dies
Nice video man. I cant believe you dont spend the money on a electric powder scale despencer tho? Id go bat shit crazy if I charged my rounds like that!!!
WIN .243 hahaha, I had 2 of them and sold them both. Turned out to be inaccurate randomly.
My Hornady seems to work ok. I get single hole groups if I do my part on the trigga.
In your experience, what weight bullet would work the best with a 1:9 twist .243? I was thinking 95-100g? Thanks
ApexKnives tough to say for sure, but you should be able to run 85-95 gr bullets without issue. 95 could be questionable, it’s right on the line. Anything in the 100+ probably won’t shoot well, however I’ve seen some 1-9 rifles that will shoot them.
I have a Remington 700 243 26" heavy contour long range 1: 9 twist. steel bedded with pillars
leupold 6-24x50 mil reticle ffp
I shoot the 95 , 100 and the 103 grain they shoot really nice.
it's all about experimentation powder charge weight , bullet seating depth and primer .I use the FED match primers in all of my recipes.
but I have countless Bricks of many other brands for backup.
I have never used the hodgdon's 100 powder can anyone tell me if it is temp sensitive
87 vmax is another very good bullet with a high bc. Shoots extremely well in my 20 inch 9 twist barrel
what powder you use in reloading with Hornady ELD 108..? thank you
Been a long time ago, but I think I was using H-414 any most my barrels are a 1-8 twist
Thank you.. in my country no't this is powder
To powder Hibrid 100..??
@@quiquecruz6203 hybrid 100 V
Thank you
Hey, I love your vidoes. One question on bullet seating...with the stoney point/hornary seating guauge, you are using the factory modified case which I would guess is sized to factory specs.. Have you ever tried making your own modified case from a fire-formed case so that you know it's accurate in a particular rifle? I've tried this, but the neck is always too tight and won't let a bullet slide out to the lands. Seems to me that you need to use a case fired in your chamber to be truly accurate, though I understand that its' all relative. Thanks for the awesome videos! My only complaint is that I stay up way too late watching!!!
Hey Brian, yes I've made some cases in the past. Drilled them out and tapped them to fit the rod. You can use a Lee Collet die to squeeze the neck down without going to far. Regular dies won't work for this. Use light pressure with the Lee Collet die and slowly work it down to where the bullet has a tiny bit of resistance. It's not necessary to use a fired case, but every little bit helps.
Thanks for the quick reply. The problem is, the neck is too tight to use the depth gauge. How to i expand the neck so that the bullet with slide?
also.. have you tried this: ruclips.net/video/TWmIwPwLyyg/видео.html
If you start off with the fired case, the bullet should drop right through the neck without contact. If thats not happening you have other problems. If it is dropping through, then lightly run it through the Lee Collet with minimal pressure until you have slight resistance on the bullet but still be able to move it with your fingers.
That makes sense. I wanted to bump the shoulder though, so that my modified case would exactly match my loaded rounds. Using a full-length die backed off to just bump, the neck was sized and is too tight. Is there a way to bump the shoulder without sizing the neck? I really appreciate your help!
Hello friend... what is your barrel contorn of rifle, your action is tikka..? thank
Great video, buy the way who made your deburing tool , I like the length of it. I am doing some reloading for the 350 rem. mag. and you realy help out with your videos.
Herb Barrett that's made by Lyman, I really like it. Thanks for watching
On your test.......what was your #numbers for your 108 grain 243
carlos luna it’s been so long I don’t remember
Wish they would just put the tip on A-MAX
What is a good load for a .243 remington 700 1 in 10 twist? Thanks
34 grains H4895 with 87 grain HPBT.
Keep bullet wieght 90 grain or lighter with that twist.
what twist of your barrel??
A mí en iguales condiciones no me da buenos grupos ....cañón 26"Bartlein , tuist 1:7,5....
Con 41 of hybrid 100 que velocidad dió ?
It's O Jive not O Give and number 2, Hodgdon is not Hog done it's Hodgdon as in Lodgedone.
I did not know that. Thx!
What tvist do you have in the barrel?
I'm running the 1-8 twist shilen
👌, a-max is shooting realy good in my blaser 1-8" tvist but berger 105gr is shooting realy bad :-( and The recomended tvist for berger is 1:7 so maby thats The problem,. I will test the Eld-x when it comes to sweden..
I have a hard time getting the Bergers to shoot out of my 243, and I've tried just about everything. I have 400 Berger bullets for sale now haha
Excellent video!
Thank you..! Appreciate the feedback. If you have any requests let me know, I'm always looking for video ideas.
Oh give
Ogive is pronounced ojive
It's pronounced ojive...its s soft g.
What twist rate do you have in your rifle
I'm using a 1-8 twist Shilen Varmint 26" barrel. Very happy with the Shilen Barrels, I have them on a few rifles and will be putting another on a rifle I'm getting ready to build. I'd like to try a 1-7 twist for the .243 but they are very hard to find right now.