Time to move on from the galley and start work making the bunk beds for the mid ships cabin which has its own set of issues to resolve not before long #diy ##handmade #bespoke
One thing to keep in mind with the bunk bed plans is a safety rail, speaking from experience! It was no fun turning over in my sleep, to run out of bed and topple off the top bunk encased in a sleeping bag. As I was cocooned, I couldn't put my arms out to save myself so the end result was a broken shoulder. Painful!
Really depends on who's going to sleep there. I slept on a narrow top bunk with no rail most of my childhood starting at about 5yo and never fell off it. I didn't have a ladder either (mostly to keep younger sibling off my bed) and just pulled myself up.
@YaaLFH yeh fair enough, I was slightly on the larger side for a kid as I was somewhere between 11 and 13, can't remember exactly. There was only me, and I had the choice of top or bottom bunk, regret my choice now as it wasn't too easy going up the Wolverhampton 21 lock wheeling with one hand 😅
Hey James, when I was a kid we had a little camper with a hammock thing for top bunk and me and bro loved it and fought over who would sleep in it … it packed away, so could be another option
LOVE the idea of a fold-DOWN bed - More seating room will probably come in very handy - and might give you a little shelf space up high between the windows, too.
There must be a way of pivoting the top bunk so that it can flip over. That would mean it would have to have a solid bottom in order for that to become a working surface. You would need to have the slats for ventilation, but perhaps they could be retained using a routed track. When the top bunk is not in use as a bunk, the built-in safety rail would be against the outer wall and (hopefully) wouldn't foul the lower bunk space. If the head room is limited, that would also limit the size of the closet at the head end of the bed, because the person sleeping there would have to lean forward and out at the same time to clear it. Not so critical for the little ones, but they have a way of getting bigger!
That Kitchen is going to be Beautiful. You never fail to amaze me! The curves are fantastic. Use can use netting for the top bunk to prevent which ever child is using it from falling out.
If you want an occasional work surface at standing height, probably the kitchen counters or the dinette would be sufficient for that already? But if the kiddos need a quieter place to do homework, for example, or if you need a place where you can do some detail work, then sitting on the floor with the bench/lower bunk as a desk space would probably work really well for that, and the mattress can just go on the floor to sit on as padding. I realize that sort of work setup is much more the thing here in Korea, but even as an inflexible Westerner I do it myself for crafting at times and it's very space efficient and comfortable so might be worth considering. Also, someone mentioned needing a safety rail for the upper bunk, and I recall that when I was a kid our boat had a length of canvas attached along the front of the bench which could then clip up like a soft wall when needed to stop us rolling off, and it just stowed flat under the mattress when not in use. That might work for your needs, too. I believe they do something similar with high strength webbing on some overnight trains.
Lots to think about here ? what about a rock & roll bed as per camper vans, ? storing the top mattress when dropped down. ?safety on the top bunk, sorry I did chuckle at your tumble. Take care.
What if you put a wall on the foot end and hung heavy curtains across each bunk to make them like an upper and lower berth on an old train? That would give the girls each privacy and help them sleep if others are still up. In winter, they could pull the curtains back to allow more heat.
Hi James. Dust, anybody? :o? My first camper van had "camp" type beds that simply wrapped around long poles, a bit like an old stretcher. Rolled away to nothing. Or, how about suspend the top bunk from the deckhead (ceiling) with some cables and carabiners. Just a couple of thoughts. All the best, mate.
Why not put the lower bed lower and make it a Murphy bed that flip into the wall under the window. Which would be really safe for the girls. Then you could have the top one flip down for a desk or a bed. This would probably make the lower bed even wider.
Great vlog.. just wondering why you have not put the ceiling in yet as your building all the obstacles below that are going to impede you when it comes to the ceiling. Just an observation...😊
Hi James the top bunk will be hinged so it folds down so is the mattress going to have straps, also when the bed is up how about using large garden gate bolts under the bed that lock into the cupboards ever end. Hop this helps Tony
The top bunk could be made similar the camp beds where you run poles through tubes in the fabric (similar to cratch material maybe?) to take the weight , then on the bulkheads you have a wardrobe hanging pole type attachment (beefed up) to hang it from, then you could un-hang it and move it back etc saves on a mattress then too - dunno just thinking as i type :)
My first thought; "slots" made of hardwood(?) that will lock the upper bunk in place for sleeping, then enable the upper bunk to slide down and swivel into the cavity, below the gunnel, against the hull, thus creating a back rest? Maybe have additional slots to lower then lock the upper buck at a level to be used as a work table? ;-)
Just thinking James... in regards to your work top idea with this configuration. What if you made storage boxes to go under the bottom bunk. When the upper bunk is down, and mattress is off the bottom bunk, you could put the storage boxes on top of the bottom bunk to then create a higher work desk when needed?
Where you are placing the "cupboard" you could actually have a drop down desk top. So long as your electricals are in place , and still have space underneath for a set of small drawers . you simply fold up the desk when you dont need it . use also a folding chair to hang or store on the wall .
As a former kid myself, I'd say your measurements for the bunks are good.
One thing to keep in mind with the bunk bed plans is a safety rail, speaking from experience! It was no fun turning over in my sleep, to run out of bed and topple off the top bunk encased in a sleeping bag. As I was cocooned, I couldn't put my arms out to save myself so the end result was a broken shoulder. Painful!
Really depends on who's going to sleep there. I slept on a narrow top bunk with no rail most of my childhood starting at about 5yo and never fell off it. I didn't have a ladder either (mostly to keep younger sibling off my bed) and just pulled myself up.
@YaaLFH yeh fair enough, I was slightly on the larger side for a kid as I was somewhere between 11 and 13, can't remember exactly. There was only me, and I had the choice of top or bottom bunk, regret my choice now as it wasn't too easy going up the Wolverhampton 21 lock wheeling with one hand 😅
@@LKHNET Using a sleeping bag instead of duvet or blanket was the choice you should be regretting.
Hey James, when I was a kid we had a little camper with a hammock thing for top bunk and me and bro loved it and fought over who would sleep in it … it packed away, so could be another option
Yes Heidi !! I was just thinking of that - we had one in our touring caravan :)
Yes, in our caravan the top bunk was a piece of canvas attached to two poles like a stretcher. It could be removed and folded away completely.
one thing mate, would the upper bunk get damp with condensation from the window? like the design 🙂
LOVE the idea of a fold-DOWN bed - More seating room will probably come in very handy - and might give you a little shelf space up high between the windows, too.
So nice to see mr Rob !! X
In motorhomes they fit a metal drilled plate on the bulkhead to prevent moisture condensation happening.
Yes we had a drop down bunk that formed a back rest for a couch during the day.
We'll get a self serve till next 😂
Hi James - consider the possible condensation - with mattress next to window !! also yes safety rail !!!!! todays kids aren't as savvi as we were !!!
There must be a way of pivoting the top bunk so that it can flip over. That would mean it would have to have a solid bottom in order for that to become a working surface. You would need to have the slats for ventilation, but perhaps they could be retained using a routed track. When the top bunk is not in use as a bunk, the built-in safety rail would be against the outer wall and (hopefully) wouldn't foul the lower bunk space.
If the head room is limited, that would also limit the size of the closet at the head end of the bed, because the person sleeping there would have to lean forward and out at the same time to clear it. Not so critical for the little ones, but they have a way of getting bigger!
That Kitchen is going to be Beautiful. You never fail to amaze me! The curves are fantastic. Use can use netting for the top bunk to prevent which ever child is using it from falling out.
If you want an occasional work surface at standing height, probably the kitchen counters or the dinette would be sufficient for that already? But if the kiddos need a quieter place to do homework, for example, or if you need a place where you can do some detail work, then sitting on the floor with the bench/lower bunk as a desk space would probably work really well for that, and the mattress can just go on the floor to sit on as padding. I realize that sort of work setup is much more the thing here in Korea, but even as an inflexible Westerner I do it myself for crafting at times and it's very space efficient and comfortable so might be worth considering.
Also, someone mentioned needing a safety rail for the upper bunk, and I recall that when I was a kid our boat had a length of canvas attached along the front of the bench which could then clip up like a soft wall when needed to stop us rolling off, and it just stowed flat under the mattress when not in use. That might work for your needs, too. I believe they do something similar with high strength webbing on some overnight trains.
Lots to think about here ? what about a rock & roll bed as per camper vans, ? storing the top mattress when dropped down. ?safety on the top bunk, sorry I did chuckle at your tumble. Take care.
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What if you put a wall on the foot end and hung heavy curtains across each bunk to make them like an upper and lower berth on an old train? That would give the girls each privacy and help them sleep if others are still up. In winter, they could pull the curtains back to allow more heat.
Hi James.
Dust, anybody? :o?
My first camper van had "camp" type beds that simply wrapped around long poles, a bit like an old stretcher. Rolled away to nothing.
Or, how about suspend the top bunk from the deckhead (ceiling) with some cables and carabiners. Just a couple of thoughts.
All the best, mate.
Why not put the lower bed lower and make it a Murphy bed that flip into the wall under the window. Which would be really safe for the girls. Then you could have the top one flip down for a desk or a bed. This would probably make the lower bed even wider.
Great vlog.. just wondering why you have not put the ceiling in yet as your building all the obstacles below that are going to impede you when it comes to the ceiling. Just an observation...😊
Hi James the top bunk will be hinged so it folds down so is the mattress going to have straps, also when the bed is up how about using large garden gate bolts under the bed that lock into the cupboards ever end.
Hop this helps Tony
Don’t forget to factor in the mattress height on the bottom bunk when figuring out the top.
The top bunk could be made similar the camp beds where you run poles through tubes in the fabric (similar to cratch material maybe?) to take the weight , then on the bulkheads you have a wardrobe hanging pole type attachment (beefed up) to hang it from, then you could un-hang it and move it back etc saves on a mattress then too - dunno just thinking as i type :)
I wrote my comment before you said about hinging the top bunk down to make it a day sofa back, if you make that work then go with that :)
Would guess hire boats have bunk beds designed to a tee have years of experience?
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My first thought; "slots" made of hardwood(?) that will lock the upper bunk in place for sleeping, then enable the upper bunk to slide down and swivel into the cavity, below the gunnel, against the hull, thus creating a back rest?
Maybe have additional slots to lower then lock the upper buck at a level to be used as a work table? ;-)
Just two sets of rails mounted at two different heigths.
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How about trying to get the top bunk to hinge up and down so you can choose what configuration is most suitable for both child and adult uses
Why not make the upper bunk the work bench ?
Look at touring caravan designs
Yes we have one, bunk at night seating and dinette during the day.
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Just thinking James... in regards to your work top idea with this configuration. What if you made storage boxes to go under the bottom bunk. When the upper bunk is down, and mattress is off the bottom bunk, you could put the storage boxes on top of the bottom bunk to then create a higher work desk when needed?
Hinge it so during the day it can be used as a seat😊
Some people have standing work benches for IT work these days.... could the top bunk be used for one?
Do WHAT to a duck James??
Kids grow to quite large teenagers
You could use chains to hold the bed up..No need for wood to hold it in place….
Good idea for older kids - thinking trapped fingers!!
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Where you are placing the "cupboard" you could actually have a drop down desk top. So long as your electricals are in place , and still have space underneath for a set of small drawers . you simply fold up the desk when you dont need it . use also a folding chair to hang or store on the wall .
What above a false bottom in the bunk to put clothes in under the mattress for more storage.
Why not make the bottom bunk a 4 foot small double, that way lots of room to get out and less oppressive,