The 2023 VW ID.4 Is An Electric SUV BARGAIN | Building Our Reservation (New Trims And Options)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Links to previous ID.4 Update Videos (latest to earliest):
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Ultimately the decision to cancel our Volkswagen ID.4 electric SUV order came down to changes to the federal EV tax credit eligibility guidelines. The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 eliminated the 200k unit cap for electric vehicles eligible, but added a new restriction which excludes EVs assembled outside of the US. On the bright side, VW will begin manufacturing EVs in Chattenooga, TN beginning this year. The new 2023 ID.4 is expected to be assembled at the new plant and will thus be eligible for the tax credit again.
We decided to go with the ID.4 Pro S over the previously selected Pro opting this time for the luxurious features that come with the Pro S at a $5k premium (i.e. Leatherette seats, massaging seats, panoramic fixed glass roof).
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yeah the rep at VW assured me it was a chart build!!
I have an ID.4 Pro on order and have reached the order locked phase. Expected delivery is set for Nov-Dec 2022. Thinking maybe I should have upgraded to the Pro S??? The glass roof would be nice for sure.
Why not put in a second order for the pro s and just take delivery of whichever is ready first?
@Homestead Engineering: How long was it between your initial reservation and order lock?
Like 6 or 7 months. 💀
@@wstafco July 5th to August 15th
@@HomesteadEngineering Wow, so within 6 weeks. Seems encouraging. Thanks for your reply!
I want to note for next year it will be a tax credit not a rebate for your 2023 taxes. 2024 the incentive is knocked right off the price at the dealer. Not including the EV incentive that your state is doing. A lot of states have it knock off the price at the dealer as well.
Yeah. I think I mentioned that it is a tax credit and how that works towards the end of the video.
well I was in a similar situation with the ID.4 I reserved back in March of 2022 and lost the $7500 tax rebate. I had already locked in back on July 13 (grey RWD S model. So I figured Id let it play out to see what would happen, and today I received a message when I looked at my reservation that said I was being changed to a 2023 MY version and that I would need to reconfigure a new model an that I "would not lose my place in line". So I guess I'm back on the tax rebate and got to get a newer version with larger wheels and the same S edition except this time I chose whit with the grey/blue interior with the white accents which I LLOOOVVVEEE! So we will keep you informed. BTW this is the larger battery.
Nice. Yeah, better chance that it’ll be built in Chattanooga if it’s the 2023. If not, cancel again and reorder. 🤷🏾♂️
I’m sooooooo excited! 🤩
Good! You deserve it. 🙂
Have you locked and expected delivery date?
Not yet. We did get the notification to put down the rest of our deposit a couple weeks ago though.
Actually I just looked and it now says edd is Dec 2022 to Feb 2023. It was just Q1 2023 before.
Plus model are similar to gradient addon before.
Gotcha. I feel like at that point, if you want a more dynamic exterior design, you’re already in q5 etron price territory. Just get that.
Q4 Premium Plus is $60k, compared to the AWD Pro S Plus @ $55k, so I agree on jumping to the Audi at that point.
My order locked yesterday. Says delivery will be December/January
Interesting. When did you reserve? And which trim?
@@BlakeCheck so I had a reservation from June on a 2022 that I pushed up to a 2023. I have a vw id4 pro s reserved
@@BlakeCheck mine has left the factory and is American assembled
Probably 4-6 weeks for delivery. Super excited.
Do you happen to know the 0-60 for RWD?
It’s bad lol. Like 7.5 secs or something.
@@BlakeCheck Thanks! My wife really likes the ID 4 and she wants the Pro S. This car seems like a steal at the entry models when you consider the CA and Fed tax credits. As you move up in trim, it starts to make less sense to me. Especially if you go AWD and lose About 25 miles. I’m still wrestling with the idea of buying one.
I’m not an advocate for the AWD for that reason. More money for less range seems backwards to me. Also, if you don’t already have a Tesla, I think the Model Y is a better option if you can swing it, especially considering the new price cut. Only reason we’re considering the ID.4 is because we already have my model 3 which we can use for longer road trips. EA isn’t reliable enough at this point to consider ID.4 as your only EV imo.
Will be iD.4 S be DC fast charge capable? Can’t find anywhere confirming
I believe so. 150 kW max I think.
I am about to place my order, and I am struggling if I should get the Pro or Pro S. Are the interior upgrade worth the 5k?
Not in my opinion. If you don’t care about the leatherette seats, or the sun roof, or slightly larger wheels, don’t get the Pro S. It will probably have slightly less range than the Pro bc of the extra weight. We’re just getting the Pro S bc my wife likes those things haha.
Blake, it seems you are influencing Jessica’s EV configuration much more than she influenced yours. Since it’s her car, doesn’t her opinion have much greater value? Or, is she indifferent and delegates it to you?
She knew what she wanted before we filmed. Making a RUclips video and making it look natural is harder than you think.
@@BlakeCheck I agree 100%. Producing a new supercharger video in Florida was very challenging for me.
Any idea how many miles of range will be reduced if going with the 20" inch wheels vs 19"?
I’d just be guessing. But for the 2022 model year it was about a 10% loss so I assume it’ll be the same or similar.
You are buying a “bigger” rig and want to go somewhere - $5,000 is a lot of peace of mind but better than running out of juice early. Enjoyed your secessions.
Thanks Mark! It’s a great family car. Hope we get it soon.
Love the video, I’m still hoping hoping the VW ID Buzz Long Wheel Base is built in Tennessee instead of Germany so we can get all the incentives.
That’ll be the ultimate family car. 👌🏾
I have 4000 miles on my 2022 AWD Pro. Love it so far. The updated software is pretty good.
Nice! So they’re all getting ota updates now?
@@BlakeCheck none of the 2021s in the USA have gotten a single update. Mine was updated at port before delivery. Anything ordered right now will have 3.1 or higher in the USA.
Locked in recently and id4. I was a 2022 pro grey but when switched to 2023 I changed it to a standard
Nice. You’re not concerned about the range?
@@BlakeCheck no since it will be a around thanksgiving town ride for the wife and she works about five miles away. South Florida is pretty good with chargers.
That’s the perfect use case. Wise choice.
The enhanced rear view mirror adds the home link garage door opener to it. The protection and convenience package is basically all weather mats. Both are decent packages to add although you can get the components cheaper if you do some legwork.
Hot. Garbage.
@@BlakeCheck When I had my 21 ID.4 Pro S with gradient I didn't have the homelink and it sucked. I was able to find the mirror online for about $250 and install it in about 2 minutes. The all weather mats were pretty nice though as were the velcro cargo blocks that were part of that kit. Kept shit from sliding around in the back.
All things you can buy for much cheaper in the aftermarket lol.
I also chose the pro s.
Wise choice.
Your new video prompted me to look again at the ID.4 for 2023. I reserved another one, and I hope it doesn’t get delivered until January when the better tax credit takes effect. While each choice costs more than the 2022s, at least at the higher levels there’s more equipment (heated rear sears, parking assist, lighted rear VW logo). Plus I like the dark interior better (no brown) and it looks like they eliminated a lot of the piano black surfaces that everyone complained about.
Wise move. I think those of us putting in orders right now probably won’t get them until Q1 or Q2 of 2023 anyways. By that time, the materials for batteries going into US built ID.4s will probably come from Canada via the new contract VW and Mercedes just signed. Which trim did you go with.
@@BlakeCheck we chose the top of the line, in red (didn’t want a dark color or white, like the new blue best but don’t want white interior). It’s all wheel drive (Michigan) and only option is the mirror which has home link.
I totally agree, it's just right now I so far locked I don't want to back out. I thought about getting the US version with smaller battery which is at a great price but I think my time frame to get the car is right where I want and need it to be for me.
@@BlakeCheck Blake, have you been asked to place your order yet? Or are you still in the reserve mode like us?
@@patrickstoner3986 still in reserve mode. :/
I ordered the Pro S Plus AWD about 2 weeks ago, 1st I picked Grey, then Changed it to the Dark Blue yesterday. So excited, do you have any idea at all when ill get mine, just a rough idea. Im not in the loop, just wanted an EV and finally decided the ID4 was the one. Thank You. Congratulations on your order !!
Should still be the MY2023 estimated for delivery Q4 2022.
Interesting. We had a pro S gradient on order from last Oct and canceled it in June before it was built. Charging anxiety on trips which includes crowded and out of order changers, cost of updating home electric to handle lev 2, mild recession and maybe not being able to use tax credits at that time. Saying all that I still have a bug for this. So two questions for you: what type of delivery time did you get? and I think I heard that the car battery had to sourced in North America to qualify? thanks so much
edit, I very much like the spec & color you picked.
Sure Tim. Estimated delivery Q4 2022. And I just read that VW just signed a deal with a battery manufacturer in Canada specifically for cars built in Chattanooga. Not a bad idea to put in a new reservation. Plus Teslas SC network opening up to non tesla EVs soon, so that should quell some of your concerns.
SUV’s Are needed for an active life for sure.
For sure. How you liking the lightning?
You inspired me to place an order.
Love to hear it. Which one did you order.
@@BlakeCheck Same one you ordered but with other interior and homelink. I plan on using 100% free charging. How much range can you get in 30 minutes?. Long term I still want the model Y 4680 RWD if Tesla will release it.
Wise choice. If Tesla releases a model y rwd below 55 I’ll cancel my order lol.
If Tesla sells a y for 55k then VW and others are going to be in trouble. Demand is to high now. No reason to lower price anytime soon.
Correct.
I like that shirt Blake
Wanted to make sure there was no confusion about where my true allegiances lie. Lol. (Joking, I like all EVs)
@@BlakeCheck My allegiance is Luc I mean Tesla
Again, I love the channel. I still have to ask about the tax credit, is it not correct that the tax credit applies to your own specific tax liability? For example: if I have a $1,500 tax liability I will only get that $15,00 wiped off of my fed tax nothing more once I file. So, when people say the car could potentially be less than 40K and could be $33K. That's just a little disingenuous - I think on the part of the government. If I owe the government $7,500 then that would be wiped out. It's not a down payment on the car, it's not a rebate and you can't use it again once you take advantage of tax credit.
Yes. I mention exactly that toward the end of the video.
@@BlakeCheck yea after I posted I watched the rest and saw that. Good on you bro. I’m still sticking with my ID4 from Germany. Of course still in that holding pattern which I don’t mind for right now. Can you shed light on dealers setting MSRP at least in some states they are allowed to. I think your viewers would be interested. How do hat may or may not affect buying decision for some EV reservation holders.
Dealers set the final purchase price, not the msrp. I’ll mention it when we get to that stage.
The new tax credit which starts in January is $7,500 for everyone, regardless of what your tax liability is. So that’s good. Those cars have to be built in North America for now and eventually have their batteries sourced here, too. The problem with the new law is that the existing tax credits (refundable when you file your taxes) no longer exist. That’s why a lot of people are waiting to purchase an EV in 2023.
Correct. Reserving now is a gamble. Betting on my car not being ready to purchase until 2023. If that’s not the case we’ll need to cancel again.
Great choice!
Thanks! More importantly, great price lol.