As someone with over 1200 hours on this game over the last 5 years, I’m getting really fed up with update after update and overpriced dlc after overpriced dlc being released and yet there’s still so many broken features. Things that are still broken: 1. Late shoves don’t work unless you have sync scoop/flip off 2. The board to body distance is way too far when doing late flips and Ollie north/south 3. Manual catch is still pretty wonky 4. Input speed setting for scoop speed doesn’t work properly 5. Grind mechanics have degraded. Directional pop used to allow you to do just about any grind into any other grind but now it’s much more limited. 6. It’s way too easy to break a lot of mechanics when adjusting advanced settings (for example, board clipping through feet if you don’t have the exact right settings) 7. Missions are still super buggy 8. Sync scoop/flip turned off is still super funky and the tricks usually look ridiculous (for example tre flips) 9. Animations still look pretty clunky (I’m aware the animator left a long time ago but come on, is it really that hard to find a replacement for such an important feature?) 10-100. The list goes on and on. I don’t expect this game to be perfect and appreciate how small the studio is, but we were promised more than what we have and I’m getting really tired of this.
Too bad they nuked the Discord server and killed any communication with their playerbase because the dev team is a bunch of children. This game turned out to be the exact same as SkaterXL. Here's hoping a bunch of babies aren't in charge of Skate 4 like SXL and Session.
How can you really say the exact same…..? Like really. Don’t get me wrong… I’m with everyone when it comes to recent events and it is concerning but session base game is 100X better than Skaterxl. Love or hate the devs.
@BTthrashmaster I'm sure JL wishes he wasn't wrapped up in this mess. Hopefully he can get out intact and continue to be a valuable part of the community instead of a puppet for the children in charge of Creature studios.
JL is a good dude but Creature Studios is a problem. These recent developments feel like the end of the studio. Nuking the discord was the a kick in the nuts for the games long time community. Hopefully the stink of the devs choices doesn’t affect him going forward. JL doesn’t deserve to be dragged into all this mess.
At the end of the day it's all about positioning yourself.. of course there's bills that need to be paid interfering with ones own principles, but bottom line we're making our own choices - so does JL. As far as i can tell he keeps his integrity with the community as of now (i wasn't home all day so i missed most of what might have happened today) while doing his job for crea-ture and of course cannot fall into their backs.. It's a tough balance act i am sure, but it's his choice.
This is really small but I found it amusing. He made the point about some of the numbers for sliders being 1 - 20 and some being 0 - 100 in increments of 5. The thing is...that's still 20 "clicks/ticks". Maybe the actual numbers make a difference behind the scenes with programming, but to the user it's exactly the same.
In terms of ux/ui it's just a user psychology thing. In the code the values being tweaked are likely not even close to 1-100 OR 1-20. 1-100 is good generally because we are used to it in a base 10 number system: 85/100=0.85 -> easier to picture than -> 17/20=0.85 1-20 is good for a setting that would be shared with others or memorised as it has less repeat digits and less syllables
@Tryingtogetgoodatjazz It should be, but they aren't because they're a bunch of children who are too afraid to listen to constructive criticism. They're more concerned with putting out mediocre paid DLCs than listening to their community. Sure, they 'fixed' the bounce issue this update, but modders have told them exactly how to do so in the past and yet it took them how many years to implement? They're lazy, they're childish, they deserve all the hate they're getting right now. Shame.
They didn't. It occurs just way less frequent. They even said it will never be fully removed. They suck ass. Complete amateurs over there at Creature and assholes on top of that. They couldn't give a shit about us. And thats why i will never buy the game unless sits like legit 15 euros or so. The only reason they are still in business is by selling overprices DLC's and these idiots keep buying them while they have no problem handing them out for free to RUclipsrs to promote. All the maps ever released for session combined is roughly worth about 30 bucks. ALL of them put together.
ikr. Im surprised they did FREE update :D Still waiting for other shit game to get finished too. Both parties sold us unfinished products and are proud of it/
I wish we could get a seamless animation of when running and jumping on the board instead of the board appearing at your fee as soon as you press triangle. That would be dope
Thank you for creating this video and to summarize for me who doesn't like to read what happened! 😅 Also, kudos for fixing and addressing the missing pieces of wall at 6:25. I remember me mentioning that not long after the release which caused me to get some negative comments about me nitpicking 😂
I have nothing against you JL, you have always been a part of the community and kept us going when Creature went silent. That being said Creature has really shown their true colors as tone-deaf, greedy liars. The game died when Nacon came in and Mah left. Now I'm hearing rumors about Vic being the reason for Mah leaving. Would make sense why there has been no progress with gameplay fixes since Vic is the main coder of Session.
The devs aren't blameless, but Nacon is absolutely the real enemy here. They fucked up several of their other dev studios, like KT Racing, responsble for the WRC games and the disaster of TDU Solar Crown. I hear they're being sued in French Ministry of Labour by several of their studios.
@@varyagace I read about the other Nacon studios striking in France. And against the very same issues that Creature has been struggling with after Nacon buyout. Nacon just keeps on adding to their awful reputation.
I'm not sure if this is a known thing, or even something that anybody has seen happened often enough. However every so often on ps4 version for me at least, I'll go to do a grind not quite have the right angle and technically miss the curb, rail etc. However instead of just rolling away or anything sometimes the character will just "grind" the ground, it seems more possible to happen during Noseslides or Crooks, now on mentioning this, my ps4 itself is rather old and does often struggle to play even basic games so this could be an issue on my own end. But I figure I'd at least mention it just in case it is something others have experienced too. Edit: oh and I have Manual Catch on, Casual Grind Mode Off, and Grind Aligment set to 20
Kinda wild you wouldn’t even mention Creature destroying the entirety of their discord and calling us all toxic. They’ve made some real garbage business decisions and hires lately.
I'm happy they dropped UE5 it's not needed the game looks fine already, focus on the base mechanics of the game. people care about gameplay. dev's should understand this by now. Right?, Right?
Dam I’m surprised with all the hate in the comments. But I play on ps5 so I don’t know about discords and nuking the game like everyone is sayin. I don’t even know what that means lol. I love this game I just throw on some music and skate. It’s a fun little get away. And they added some cool new clothes and loving the new map too. If anything to complain about is the lack of character customization. Pretty wild there is none and only 2 haircuts lol. Why doesn’t anyone mention that ever?
Yeah it’s horrible. The same 2 hairstyles since alpha. Basically to sum it up though, they haven’t provided any actual updates for awhile. There also were some experimental features that got removed and don’t seem to be getting added back, most notably grab tricks. They also released the game into 1.0 calling it a full completed game, but still hadn’t fixed very noticeable bugs that should have been fixed like the fact that goofy just straight up doesn’t work on top of some other jankiness. It was pretty obvious they only did a full release to start releasing paid DLC. The games really fun, I have like 400 hours on it, but they’ve pretty much abandoned it at this point leaving a bunch of promises unfulfilled.
the crazy part is that the premade skaters all have cool models with unique items (tattoos and hats w/ hair etc) - why the hell don't they just lift those assets and add them to the shop for custom characters?
I literally stopped playing this game because of it. Create a player mode is a key factor in gaming these days and has always been. Especially any game with a story mode. Barely any clothes. Like damn at least make some off brand stuff. Everything is reskinned in a new color.
Its honestly insane that it takes them so long to complete some basic fixes, then hype it up as if you've made some real progress, and then this is all we get. And then at the same time another map that we have to pay for, meanwhile you've done almost nothing to improve the game wheres some animations for hopping on your board anything like that would be far more well recieved. I backed this game from the very start of the kickstarter and I didn't even recieve the things I was supposed to (T-shirt) and have attempted to communicate multiple times and I get nothing at all, I've really begun to lose all faith in this company. And now I'm seeing comments here saying they deleted the discord wtf are these guys doing? It seems like they're just milking it for all the money they can get with all these paid maps and dont give a shit about what the players want.
Wow number sliders.....WOWWWW. Couldn't be a company that's on top of knowing Reallusion released a Skateboarding MoCap pack that they could fix these dogshit...oh i mean, NON EXISTENT animations...BUT AT LEAST WE GET MORE PAID DLC AMIRIGHT!???!!
I don’t think that’s true. They’ve been very forward about the bounce glitch being a problem. They’ve uploaded tons of clips talking about it themselves. You’re just hating to hate at this point.
@@Peter-ff1tp Considering how on their Instagram they said exactly how "rare" this bug was and how they (I'm assuming Donovan) played for 30 minutes without being able to get it to happen without doing a specific trick, you're wrong lmao. Anyone who plays Session regularly knows it being "rare" is straight up bullshit and the fact they tried to downplay it and act like it was rare is like a smack in the face to the community.
Still love this game despite some funky animations and what people are saying about the company in general. Glad they fixed a few things and will be playing this game for years to come.
Maybe I'm just an optimist but I am actually happy about this vid. 1. People have been complaining for ages about how "they can't even fix the bounce glitch", and now that it's been done they are.. unhappy?! 2. The nuking of the discord was a bad decision, but the community had become so hostile. It became just constant unhelpful hate. 3. The choice to stop trying to convert to ue5 is for the best. The reason why "why isn't this patched? why isn't this fixed?" was most likely because there was no point in fixing issues in the previous physics engine when you are in the process of redeploying it in a new engine. I wouldn't be surprised if they are planning to spend the next year (or less) ironing it out the best they can, and then just leaving the game. I agree that payed dlc is incredibly annoying, but also the game has a very small market. Once everyone has already bought the game, there is very little further income. You can't expect a studio to carry on paying it's staff and fixing a game without some sort of dlc or microtransaction crap, it's a sad reality of the modern early-access development cycle. The sooner they polish and leave the game the better, no further updates means better mods. It is **the best** skate-sim game ever made, it could be better, it could always be better. Fixing the bounce glitch is the best thing since launch.
Well I got to say that's some good update there !!! THO The kinked rail stuff is not really a thing tbh. With the proper adv stats we could have something alike. And yes, it's even a bit better now. It's not a game changer. BUT On the other hand, bounce bug & auto-bump both gone at 98% that is a game changer ! I cheer to more of those ! 🧋🍕
@@SavouryLobster what? why dont you, you know, try to use the joystick in menus? JL already said he doesnt think it is a problem that they should fix. it IS a problem. the stick is dead in menus, on all platforms ive tried. this is terrible UX. simple. maybe try a different keyboard for unhelpful replies?
@@joejoe2658 lol ok bro chill. I didn't know it was an issue, I always use d-pad for menus. All you had to say was that it is an issue that has been mentioned but instead you went off like you haven't had mommies milk yet. Grow up
@@SavouryLobster ahuh, you always move your thumb away from the stick it was on, down to another thing that these devs programmed to be arbitrarily required to do navigation (which the devs have said isnt a problem for them), unlike every other game for the last 30 years, so it is a me problem. i say again, terrible UX, and attitude towards their customers. ohh and they abandoned the platform you primarily play this sim on, great. dont tell me what i need to say. and btw, the rest of the planet spells it "mum".
Go to the apartment and create a second skater, that’s how you play the story again. All money, inventory and historical challenge progress carry over to every skater. What item is locked?
@@JLNightmare The metal police barrier for the Ribsman mission. It is positioned way too close to the wall so when I moved it back I went too far and now it's behind the wall and I can't get it out. It's still there when I create a new skater. Erasing app folder/object placement does nothing. I switch between devices so that's why I can't move it I guess. Unless there's a way to change the mission so you have to use your own metal barrier, or something.
Ok, so you will need to delete a specific save file to reset world Object placements. On your PC in File Explorer, go to this location: %localappdata%\sessionGame\Saved\SavedGame (Copy and paste that in the top Left bar, not search.. and make sure Session is Closed) Delete the ObjectPlacementSave file. That should reset all world objects, then launch Session.
I feel bad for JL 🤦🏼♂️ I’ve hyped this game up to so many people and feel stupid for doing so knowing how bad things are now on the developers side of things, so I can only image how JL feels. Thanks for the info dude! Much love ✌🏻
@@ThizzyWailer what? Lolll nah man. You make no sense. Why are you commenting and watching a video about a game you gave up on a “year and a half ago”? Very specific timeline too btw. This is about you and nothing else. Explain yourself.
Yikes the amount of moaning. Session is the best skateboarding game available, still. The new map is beautiful and the skating is feeling smoother than ever. The fixes really made a huge difference. I’m still obsessed with the game and can’t wait for what’s next.
I'll be honest with you... I like their choice to drop unreal 5 and focus on improving the game. I think it's good that they drop the complaints without any filtering. Discord is just noise most of the time. They would lose focus, so they are taking a bold approach here for the game that they imagine. That's good... They have to give something rather than trying to fix everything each person request.
Are we ever going to get proper animations? I know they went to full release with the publisher to start making proper money and it makes sense that DLC maps are a priority for that but it really breaks immersion so hard when you get off your board for anything. It's unreal engine which surely means they can just use the default running animations right? I've seen people making games from scratch in unreal and they can just use the running that is in Fortnite so surely it can be improved quickly on that front but also I'm desperate for an animation getting on and off the board. Skate 2 had it 15 years ago, surely it's not that much of a task?! If I'm wrong please let me know why because I really just don't get it 😅
"It's not a complete solution" seems to be the theme of this update. Abandoning the Switch release, UE5, and the community discord on top of this AND dropping yet another paid DLC? What an actual joke.
We’ve been so patient, and supportive with this entire project but still feels like they promise us 10 things we want, give us about 3 of those and palm us off with another bs dlc map the size of a backyard 🤦🏼♂️
Stalin Plaza is awesome, love the new clothes as well and that they works for the girls as well, pretty hyped for the future updates and for f* sake where's Barca map ? XD And i'm actually happy that UE5 was dropped, cause UE5 is heavy af and not very well optimized
I'm really glad for the bounce glitch fix! This thing ruined so many lines for me... Any chance to fix the late shov issue, and this bug as well: ruclips.net/video/l7N_P7vo6PM/видео.html ?
You know what’ll be a good idea maybe even a great one ….if they SALE THE GAME to a real company with the numbers the money and development crew to take this game to the next level 🤷🏾♂️
Just gonna continue to wait for skate story my guy, creature has clearly given up on this thing, how the fuck does it take an entire team this long to add an animation for getting on and off your board? I know a very small amount of UE5 and 4, I think I’ll just fuckin mod it in myself lmfao
Nope. Creature is trash. Don't care about the bounce fix I've wanted for years. Don't care about maps. Screw em. Spicer is spineless. Not getting my money. Not getting my teams money. Oof.
@@WhiteCranKit's not fixed. They claim it'll never be fixed. Meanwhile, other UE4 games don't have nearly as many physics issues. Crea-Ture are just incompetent
@@RubyRoks My fault then sorry, i have the video still in the "watch later" playlist. But i played quite some time today already and didn't had the bounce once.. so i assumed it's completely fixed and not just "reduced"
@@WhiteCranKtruly. Just some minor upsetting things most are blowing way out of proportion. I’m not much a of gamer gamer tho, so this kinda thing was never in my radar. I’m dumb content with the numbers and lack of bounce glitch
Wouldve been awesome if you did a, "heres what they fixed, the bounce glitch, sorta, and a ghost pop issue nobody knew about." and then ended the video.
They just released an update which makes the game feel better in every way, but we're supposed to hate them now because they decided that moving their physics engine-dependent game onto a newer, considerably more resource-hungry, physics engine was a dumb idea, and that the devs were spending too much time on Discord. Naturally, the people who enjoy spending time on Discord are up in arms about it, but their predictably co-ordinated response isn't doing much to improve their reputation among those of us who consider people who enjoy spending any kind of time on Discord to be only marginally less incomprehensible than people who enjoy spending their time on LinkedIn. As for the Switch version, who cares? The Switch version was and is always going to be a bit of a joke, given that the game is pretty much unplayable without analog triggers. How you going to bring analog triggers to the Switch? By the Power of Community? Sheesh.
They are fixing like one of the top 3 complains which is goofy stance and people are complaining they aren't doing anything. No wonder they call them toxic.
@@ftwtf I use to be in the discord after 1.0. They didn't really listen then either. They broke so much of the game and were just like, well, we are doing it this way now.
Nah they were 100% legit while I was standing in the schoolyard. Happened a few times but I only left 2 in the video cause those ones happened at important moments. I don’t pause the game when I talk unless I’m specifically needing the menus
Session on Unreal Engine 5 will be awesome. My Session experience have been amazing, love this game. During the time when I used to play Tony Hawks games and I thought if they ever going to make a game that is hyper life like. Session have definitely delivered it. Hey JL Nightmare, it will be amazing if we can get New Jersey lever from Tony Hawks Underground. Is there any chance in that?
Been wasting my life which resulted in me losing literally everything. Haven't played Session in almost 2 years... all my fault so cant complain. But to the complainers pretending like Creature owes you anything ever... INFRACTION!!! Just git gud, bud. Git gud. Truck bounce was user error anyway *cough *cough Ill be accepting all small XBOX SERIES X and Session donations. All you have to do is mail them, brand new only of course, to THE BIG BUFFALO in Texas. Next day air only... No 3-5 business day nonsense. I love you, roda.hero 🦬🦬🦬
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As someone with over 1200 hours on this game over the last 5 years, I’m getting really fed up with update after update and overpriced dlc after overpriced dlc being released and yet there’s still so many broken features.
Things that are still broken:
1. Late shoves don’t work unless you have sync scoop/flip off
2. The board to body distance is way too far when doing late flips and Ollie north/south
3. Manual catch is still pretty wonky
4. Input speed setting for scoop speed doesn’t work properly
5. Grind mechanics have degraded. Directional pop used to allow you to do just about any grind into any other grind but now it’s much more limited.
6. It’s way too easy to break a lot of mechanics when adjusting advanced settings (for example, board clipping through feet if you don’t have the exact right settings)
7. Missions are still super buggy
8. Sync scoop/flip turned off is still super funky and the tricks usually look ridiculous (for example tre flips)
9. Animations still look pretty clunky (I’m aware the animator left a long time ago but come on, is it really that hard to find a replacement for such an important feature?)
10-100. The list goes on and on. I don’t expect this game to be perfect and appreciate how small the studio is, but we were promised more than what we have and I’m getting really tired of this.
Amen my brother Zack amen I’m around that many hours in oc & xbox & dude most people don’t know the goofy stand is broken
@@llIlIIlIllIll still worth a buy if you’re into skating games but expect a steep learning curve, especially with grinds/slides
Too bad they nuked the Discord server and killed any communication with their playerbase because the dev team is a bunch of children. This game turned out to be the exact same as SkaterXL. Here's hoping a bunch of babies aren't in charge of Skate 4 like SXL and Session.
EA is in charge of Skate so that's gonna be a disaster too.
How can you really say the exact same…..? Like really. Don’t get me wrong… I’m with everyone when it comes to recent events and it is concerning but session base game is 100X better than Skaterxl. Love or hate the devs.
@FakeHero69 yeah SkaterXL devs cut and run. Creature are having issues but at least they're still trying to work on the game.
Have totally abandoned skater xl and session
Started playing skate 3 and 2
Honestly gotta feel bad for JL here having to bat for these guys, like damn talk about a bad hand.
@BTthrashmaster I'm sure JL wishes he wasn't wrapped up in this mess. Hopefully he can get out intact and continue to be a valuable part of the community instead of a puppet for the children in charge of Creature studios.
Never feel sorry for people who shill for money.
@@SyanTheNekoyou can’t be sure of someone else’s wishes.
@@satevo462he’s just trying to make a living big dog he’s a RUclips working for a skate simulator gaming company, not that deep
@@satevo462i don't think it's shilling if you work for the company
JL is a good dude but Creature Studios is a problem. These recent developments feel like the end of the studio. Nuking the discord was the a kick in the nuts for the games long time community. Hopefully the stink of the devs choices doesn’t affect him going forward. JL doesn’t deserve to be dragged into all this mess.
Holly what i just checked and wow. I didn't expect that
At the end of the day it's all about positioning yourself.. of course there's bills that need to be paid interfering with ones own principles, but bottom line we're making our own choices - so does JL. As far as i can tell he keeps his integrity with the community as of now (i wasn't home all day so i missed most of what might have happened today) while doing his job for crea-ture and of course cannot fall into their backs.. It's a tough balance act i am sure, but it's his choice.
great game horrible devs
Y'all are so toxic to indie skate developers. I guess supporting skateboarders doesnt apply to the game industry for you.
@@jasonb993 Meh. Shill harder. Maybe senpai will notice you.
This is really small but I found it amusing. He made the point about some of the numbers for sliders being 1 - 20 and some being 0 - 100 in increments of 5. The thing is...that's still 20 "clicks/ticks". Maybe the actual numbers make a difference behind the scenes with programming, but to the user it's exactly the same.
In terms of ux/ui it's just a user psychology thing. In the code the values being tweaked are likely not even close to 1-100 OR 1-20.
1-100 is good generally because we are used to it in a base 10 number system: 85/100=0.85 -> easier to picture than -> 17/20=0.85
1-20 is good for a setting that would be shared with others or memorised as it has less repeat digits and less syllables
Cool update! Did they delete pretty much everything on their discord server?
Users' content is useless🥰🥰🥰
@@turtleGIRL_8 user input isn't useless though... The company should be totally fine with hearing out its customers/passionate fans
@Tryingtogetgoodatjazz It should be, but they aren't because they're a bunch of children who are too afraid to listen to constructive criticism. They're more concerned with putting out mediocre paid DLCs than listening to their community. Sure, they 'fixed' the bounce issue this update, but modders have told them exactly how to do so in the past and yet it took them how many years to implement? They're lazy, they're childish, they deserve all the hate they're getting right now. Shame.
😅@@turtleGIRL_8
@@SyanTheNeko”they’re lazy and childish because they won’t give me what I want 😢”
finally fixed bounce glitch only took like what 2 years?? 😂
They didn't. It occurs just way less frequent. They even said it will never be fully removed. They suck ass. Complete amateurs over there at Creature and assholes on top of that. They couldn't give a shit about us. And thats why i will never buy the game unless sits like legit 15 euros or so. The only reason they are still in business is by selling overprices DLC's and these idiots keep buying them while they have no problem handing them out for free to RUclipsrs to promote. All the maps ever released for session combined is roughly worth about 30 bucks. ALL of them put together.
ikr. Im surprised they did FREE update :D
Still waiting for other shit game to get finished too.
Both parties sold us unfinished products and are proud of it/
I wish we could get a seamless animation of when running and jumping on the board instead of the board appearing at your fee as soon as you press triangle.
That would be dope
Keep up the great updates coming i can't wait for the future of this game hands down my fav skating game
The future? lol. This game is far away from life than death.
@@JazzyJeff910 wah
Thank you for creating this video and to summarize for me who doesn't like to read what happened! 😅
Also, kudos for fixing and addressing the missing pieces of wall at 6:25. I remember me mentioning that not long after the release which caused me to get some negative comments about me nitpicking 😂
I have nothing against you JL, you have always been a part of the community and kept us going when Creature went silent. That being said Creature has really shown their true colors as tone-deaf, greedy liars. The game died when Nacon came in and Mah left. Now I'm hearing rumors about Vic being the reason for Mah leaving. Would make sense why there has been no progress with gameplay fixes since Vic is the main coder of Session.
The devs aren't blameless, but Nacon is absolutely the real enemy here. They fucked up several of their other dev studios, like KT Racing, responsble for the WRC games and the disaster of TDU Solar Crown. I hear they're being sued in French Ministry of Labour by several of their studios.
@@varyagace I read about the other Nacon studios striking in France. And against the very same issues that Creature has been struggling with after Nacon buyout.
Nacon just keeps on adding to their awful reputation.
has the switch been forggoten about? i dont recall an update since it released
Switch is dead. According to the devs and Donovan.
Will there ever be a more fleshed out character customisation system? Or grabs, wall rides or no complys
I'm not sure if this is a known thing, or even something that anybody has seen happened often enough. However every so often on ps4 version for me at least, I'll go to do a grind not quite have the right angle and technically miss the curb, rail etc. However instead of just rolling away or anything sometimes the character will just "grind" the ground, it seems more possible to happen during Noseslides or Crooks, now on mentioning this, my ps4 itself is rather old and does often struggle to play even basic games so this could be an issue on my own end. But I figure I'd at least mention it just in case it is something others have experienced too.
Edit: oh and I have Manual Catch on, Casual Grind Mode Off, and Grind Aligment set to 20
No this also happens on PC.
@@WhiteCranK oh okay, I mean sometimes it can look kinda cool but yeah glad to know to it's not just me or my system dying further lol
Now we need truck damage
0:37 donovan piping up to interrupt the hype about the bug fix with his nonsense, feels... symbolic lmao
Kinda wild you wouldn’t even mention Creature destroying the entirety of their discord and calling us all toxic.
They’ve made some real garbage business decisions and hires lately.
Nacon cook Creature unfortunately
I'm happy they dropped UE5 it's not needed the game looks fine already, focus on the base mechanics of the game. people care about gameplay. dev's should understand this by now. Right?, Right?
great video. makes me feel like creature is watching
They on his ahhh/neck
There seems to be some drama with the game/studio, but I’m still enjoying the game, and I hope you’re doing okay.
Session: Bringing true goofy since Jan 2020 (at a minimum, that's when i joined)... i believe it when i see it, nothing personal JL.
Great update!
The no values next to the stats slider was always a wild choice on their part. Glad to see it implemented.
They are going to nuke this game, I wont spend a dime on them again
Why?
It's not a game. It's a simulator.
@@ralphbrentonbeatsit is a game.
They need to add socks shorts and cuffed pants with no socks looks so stupid
Socks might drop next update
@@luisgustavodl See you next year for the big sock update
@@ThizzyWailer considering the year only have 3 months left yeah, might drop only early 2025
@@luisgustavodl idk I feel like they talked about the ghost pop for years and it just got fixed. The game is dead
@@ThizzyWailer lol, dead how hater ? We just get an update and more content, cry more 🫡
Dam I’m surprised with all the hate in the comments. But I play on ps5 so I don’t know about discords and nuking the game like everyone is sayin. I don’t even know what that means lol. I love this game I just throw on some music and skate. It’s a fun little get away. And they added some cool new clothes and loving the new map too. If anything to complain about is the lack of character customization. Pretty wild there is none and only 2 haircuts lol. Why doesn’t anyone mention that ever?
I’m with you. My main issue is with hats. When you wear them it makes you bald and the hat literally floats on your head. It looks so goofy
Yeah it’s horrible. The same 2 hairstyles since alpha. Basically to sum it up though, they haven’t provided any actual updates for awhile. There also were some experimental features that got removed and don’t seem to be getting added back, most notably grab tricks. They also released the game into 1.0 calling it a full completed game, but still hadn’t fixed very noticeable bugs that should have been fixed like the fact that goofy just straight up doesn’t work on top of some other jankiness. It was pretty obvious they only did a full release to start releasing paid DLC. The games really fun, I have like 400 hours on it, but they’ve pretty much abandoned it at this point leaving a bunch of promises unfulfilled.
the menus are dead for the joysticks. horrendous UX.
the crazy part is that the premade skaters all have cool models with unique items (tattoos and hats w/ hair etc) - why the hell don't they just lift those assets and add them to the shop for custom characters?
I literally stopped playing this game because of it. Create a player mode is a key factor in gaming these days and has always been. Especially any game with a story mode. Barely any clothes. Like damn at least make some off brand stuff. Everything is reskinned in a new color.
Its honestly insane that it takes them so long to complete some basic fixes, then hype it up as if you've made some real progress, and then this is all we get. And then at the same time another map that we have to pay for, meanwhile you've done almost nothing to improve the game wheres some animations for hopping on your board anything like that would be far more well recieved. I backed this game from the very start of the kickstarter and I didn't even recieve the things I was supposed to (T-shirt) and have attempted to communicate multiple times and I get nothing at all, I've really begun to lose all faith in this company. And now I'm seeing comments here saying they deleted the discord wtf are these guys doing? It seems like they're just milking it for all the money they can get with all these paid maps and dont give a shit about what the players want.
Wow number sliders.....WOWWWW. Couldn't be a company that's on top of knowing Reallusion released a Skateboarding MoCap pack that they could fix these dogshit...oh i mean, NON EXISTENT animations...BUT AT LEAST WE GET MORE PAID DLC AMIRIGHT!???!!
Thank you for the video bro
Why aren't you calling it "ULTRA SUPER RARE NEVER EVEN HAPPENS MAYBE ONCE GLITCH" like the other bullshit devs?
I don’t think that’s true. They’ve been very forward about the bounce glitch being a problem.
They’ve uploaded tons of clips talking about it themselves.
You’re just hating to hate at this point.
@@Peter-ff1tp Dude, the deceptiv marketing CM literally wrote 'rare bounce board'. It's edgy. Full stop
@@Peter-ff1tp Considering how on their Instagram they said exactly how "rare" this bug was and how they (I'm assuming Donovan) played for 30 minutes without being able to get it to happen without doing a specific trick, you're wrong lmao. Anyone who plays Session regularly knows it being "rare" is straight up bullshit and the fact they tried to downplay it and act like it was rare is like a smack in the face to the community.
I'm done having a carat dangled in front of my face. They're never going to update the animations or the physics. I'm done supporting this game
I’ve never seen someone use carat instead of carrot 🥕 lmao
Start over? Session 2. For URE5
Still love this game despite some funky animations and what people are saying about the company in general. Glad they fixed a few things and will be playing this game for years to come.
Maybe I'm just an optimist but I am actually happy about this vid.
1. People have been complaining for ages about how "they can't even fix the bounce glitch", and now that it's been done they are.. unhappy?!
2. The nuking of the discord was a bad decision, but the community had become so hostile. It became just constant unhelpful hate.
3. The choice to stop trying to convert to ue5 is for the best. The reason why "why isn't this patched? why isn't this fixed?" was most likely because there was no point in fixing issues in the previous physics engine when you are in the process of redeploying it in a new engine.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are planning to spend the next year (or less) ironing it out the best they can, and then just leaving the game.
I agree that payed dlc is incredibly annoying, but also the game has a very small market. Once everyone has already bought the game, there is very little further income. You can't expect a studio to carry on paying it's staff and fixing a game without some sort of dlc or microtransaction crap, it's a sad reality of the modern early-access development cycle.
The sooner they polish and leave the game the better, no further updates means better mods.
It is **the best** skate-sim game ever made, it could be better, it could always be better. Fixing the bounce glitch is the best thing since launch.
What a bummer, was waiting for that engine switch
Well I got to say that's some good update there !!!
THO
The kinked rail stuff is not really a thing tbh. With the proper adv stats we could have something alike. And yes, it's even a bit better now. It's not a game changer.
BUT
On the other hand, bounce bug & auto-bump both gone at 98% that is a game changer !
I cheer to more of those ! 🧋🍕
Creāture still owes the community goods. We already paid more than the base game price at this point
is the joystick still frustratingly dead in all menus? where is the school on switch?
I've never heard of or had that issue, maybe try a different controller?
Switch is confirmed not getting any updates. They abandoned it
@@SavouryLobster what? why dont you, you know, try to use the joystick in menus? JL already said he doesnt think it is a problem that they should fix. it IS a problem. the stick is dead in menus, on all platforms ive tried. this is terrible UX. simple. maybe try a different keyboard for unhelpful replies?
@@joejoe2658 lol ok bro chill. I didn't know it was an issue, I always use d-pad for menus. All you had to say was that it is an issue that has been mentioned but instead you went off like you haven't had mommies milk yet. Grow up
@@SavouryLobster ahuh, you always move your thumb away from the stick it was on, down to another thing that these devs programmed to be arbitrarily required to do navigation (which the devs have said isnt a problem for them), unlike every other game for the last 30 years, so it is a me problem. i say again, terrible UX, and attitude towards their customers. ohh and they abandoned the platform you primarily play this sim on, great. dont tell me what i need to say. and btw, the rest of the planet spells it "mum".
@@joejoe2658 ay m8 get a pint in ya bruv
Speaking more on the Goofy issue, will you be addressing how the feet and legs don't always align? Ya know, how it kind of looks like a goat hooves.
Nacon out here murdering another game, RIP Creature.
Thanks for the fixes and clothing. Hopefully I can play the story on PC again one day. That item is still locked.
Go to the apartment and create a second skater, that’s how you play the story again. All money, inventory and historical challenge progress carry over to every skater.
What item is locked?
@@JLNightmare The metal police barrier for the Ribsman mission. It is positioned way too close to the wall so when I moved it back I went too far and now it's behind the wall and I can't get it out. It's still there when I create a new skater. Erasing app folder/object placement does nothing. I switch between devices so that's why I can't move it I guess. Unless there's a way to change the mission so you have to use your own metal barrier, or something.
Ok, so you will need to delete a specific save file to reset world Object placements.
On your PC in File Explorer, go to this location:
%localappdata%\sessionGame\Saved\SavedGame
(Copy and paste that in the top Left bar, not search.. and make sure Session is Closed)
Delete the ObjectPlacementSave file.
That should reset all world objects, then launch Session.
Im done with session ue5 theres nothing to look forward too
I feel bad for JL 🤦🏼♂️ I’ve hyped this game up to so many people and feel stupid for doing so knowing how bad things are now on the developers side of things, so I can only image how JL feels. Thanks for the info dude! Much love ✌🏻
I haven't touched this game in a year and a half. Way over it.
Ohhhh Kay why are you watching this and commenting it lmao
@@LenoxMusic-wu3uy awww did I hurt your feelings? Jajaja
@@ThizzyWailer what? Lolll nah man. You make no sense. Why are you commenting and watching a video about a game you gave up on a “year and a half ago”? Very specific timeline too btw. This is about you and nothing else. Explain yourself.
@@LenoxMusic-wu3uy hahahaah
@@ThizzyWailer eh hah ha ha ja.. ja? Is that your answer?
Thank you for the video
Yikes the amount of moaning. Session is the best skateboarding game available, still. The new map is beautiful and the skating is feeling smoother than ever. The fixes really made a huge difference. I’m still obsessed with the game and can’t wait for what’s next.
Thanks JL!
so since I updated to a ps5 and imported my old account I don’t get the tmnt sewer level now because I couldn’t visit it on the ps5
They should definitely drop a free small map pack, for PROMISING the ue5 by the end of the year and completely reneging🙏🏼 talk to em J
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain I guess...
Love this gameeee
I'll be honest with you... I like their choice to drop unreal 5 and focus on improving the game.
I think it's good that they drop the complaints without any filtering. Discord is just noise most of the time. They would lose focus, so they are taking a bold approach here for the game that they imagine. That's good... They have to give something rather than trying to fix everything each person request.
ty for the video
Are we ever going to get proper animations? I know they went to full release with the publisher to start making proper money and it makes sense that DLC maps are a priority for that but it really breaks immersion so hard when you get off your board for anything. It's unreal engine which surely means they can just use the default running animations right? I've seen people making games from scratch in unreal and they can just use the running that is in Fortnite so surely it can be improved quickly on that front but also I'm desperate for an animation getting on and off the board. Skate 2 had it 15 years ago, surely it's not that much of a task?! If I'm wrong please let me know why because I really just don't get it 😅
They fixed the bounce glitch?? It only took them a few years😂
"It's not a complete solution" seems to be the theme of this update. Abandoning the Switch release, UE5, and the community discord on top of this AND dropping yet another paid DLC? What an actual joke.
The ”many plys later…” trophy is still bugged though
Do u have the new stuff in the update?
Game had a good
It's sad how bad this company and game has become
Spark truck still don’t work and no new gear
We’ve been so patient, and supportive with this entire project but still feels like they promise us 10 things we want, give us about 3 of those and palm us off with another bs dlc map the size of a backyard 🤦🏼♂️
True goofy let’s goooo!!!!
Stalin Plaza is awesome, love the new clothes as well and that they works for the girls as well, pretty hyped for the future updates and for f* sake where's Barca map ? XD
And i'm actually happy that UE5 was dropped, cause UE5 is heavy af and not very well optimized
The good news is something that should have been tackled when the game was still in early access 3 years ago? wow🤣
I'm really glad for the bounce glitch fix! This thing ruined so many lines for me...
Any chance to fix the late shov issue, and this bug as well: ruclips.net/video/l7N_P7vo6PM/видео.html ?
So they nuked dc, but haven't fixed vert yet?
You know what’ll be a good idea maybe even a great one ….if they SALE THE GAME to a real company with the numbers the money and development crew to take this game to the next level 🤷🏾♂️
Will Session ever become online?
gimme yo settings
🙌🏼 🙌🏼 🙌🏼
YESSS
Yeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssirrrrrrrrrrr
Funny how people waking up from how that studio is grab money scammer
I just realized by your character model that you are Cal2k.....
They cant even give me objectives to keep me interested. This "SIM" isnt even close to replicating skating and will never work.
So when Barca?... tired of asking for the same things for years
Prague is such a good map. Paris was kind underwhelming
You got it backwards lmaooo
Just gonna continue to wait for skate story my guy, creature has clearly given up on this thing, how the fuck does it take an entire team this long to add an animation for getting on and off your board? I know a very small amount of UE5 and 4, I think I’ll just fuckin mod it in myself lmfao
I bought all the DLC but I'm sorta over it. I'd like the game to flow. Stalin is a bridge too far...i'm not going after it
I played after utdate it was f up
Nope. Creature is trash. Don't care about the bounce fix I've wanted for years. Don't care about maps. Screw em. Spicer is spineless. Not getting my money. Not getting my teams money. Oof.
The bounce fix got fixed with this update, can't you read?
Geez people these days.
@@WhiteCranKit's not fixed. They claim it'll never be fixed. Meanwhile, other UE4 games don't have nearly as many physics issues. Crea-Ture are just incompetent
@@RubyRoks But it was announced to be fixed this update right? Also the ghost pop?
@@WhiteCranK It's less than a minute into the video dude. "This issue has been drastically reduced, but will never fully be gone"
@@RubyRoks My fault then sorry, i have the video still in the "watch later" playlist.
But i played quite some time today already and didn't had the bounce once.. so i assumed it's completely fixed and not just "reduced"
😥Damn...JL out here promoting a bad product. I feel bad for him. Creature sent him on a crash mission #RIPSession
Clown.. game is no way near a bad product.
@@WhiteCranKtruly. Just some minor upsetting things most are blowing way out of proportion. I’m not much a of gamer gamer tho, so this kinda thing was never in my radar. I’m dumb content with the numbers and lack of bounce glitch
Crea-Ture didn't make him make this video. I've had that discussion with JL in the comments of another disappointing update.
Wouldve been awesome if you did a, "heres what they fixed, the bounce glitch, sorta, and a ghost pop issue nobody knew about." and then ended the video.
wut? why?
@@megabates9016 Just because there really isnt much to talk about.
❤ glad the bounce is gone.
I can see the next update:
Added Goofy animations (but not fully)
That's it.
Buy the Animal Chin DLC Pack.
What a waste of money.
The graphics are fine right now just keep releasing maps like Prague!
bruh...
DOORS
They just released an update which makes the game feel better in every way, but we're supposed to hate them now because they decided that moving their physics engine-dependent game onto a newer, considerably more resource-hungry, physics engine was a dumb idea, and that the devs were spending too much time on Discord. Naturally, the people who enjoy spending time on Discord are up in arms about it, but their predictably co-ordinated response isn't doing much to improve their reputation among those of us who consider people who enjoy spending any kind of time on Discord to be only marginally less incomprehensible than people who enjoy spending their time on LinkedIn. As for the Switch version, who cares? The Switch version was and is always going to be a bit of a joke, given that the game is pretty much unplayable without analog triggers. How you going to bring analog triggers to the Switch? By the Power of Community? Sheesh.
They are fixing like one of the top 3 complains which is goofy stance and people are complaining they aren't doing anything. No wonder they call them toxic.
Wait what goofy stance glitch did they fix?
@@HeelzaDizie they are "fixing" goofy stance by mirroring the regular stance animations.
Know this : praise what's been delivered, not the words they tell
Why's everyone hating on session now? I gave up after the first 1.0 update. Session hasnt been fun for nearly 2 years.
The developers are neither listening to nor supporting the community.
@@ftwtf I use to be in the discord after 1.0. They didn't really listen then either. They broke so much of the game and were just like, well, we are doing it this way now.
Session is still a shitty game. SkaterXL is way better.
Axiomatically untrue.
This comment , it’s facts
They're both shit
Thps3 best skating game
Skaterxl fuckin sucks dude lmfao
Pause the game instead of faking interruptions, that was obnoxious.
Nah they were 100% legit while I was standing in the schoolyard. Happened a few times but I only left 2 in the video cause those ones happened at important moments. I don’t pause the game when I talk unless I’m specifically needing the menus
This game is so trash.
Session on Unreal Engine 5 will be awesome. My Session experience have been amazing, love this game. During the time when I used to play Tony Hawks games and I thought if they ever going to make a game that is hyper life like. Session have definitely delivered it. Hey JL Nightmare, it will be amazing if we can get New Jersey lever from Tony Hawks Underground. Is there any chance in that?
@@Katurayev.A.89 Did you even watch the video. UE5 is not happening, they could not make it work.
Oh, well, my english isnt that great still. For what its worth, the game is stil great. I hope eventually figure it out. @PirunKankkee
Been wasting my life which resulted in me losing literally everything. Haven't played Session in almost 2 years... all my fault so cant complain. But to the complainers pretending like Creature owes you anything ever... INFRACTION!!! Just git gud, bud. Git gud. Truck bounce was user error anyway *cough *cough
Ill be accepting all small XBOX SERIES X and Session donations. All you have to do is mail them, brand new only of course, to THE BIG BUFFALO in Texas. Next day air only... No 3-5 business day nonsense.
I love you,
roda.hero 🦬🦬🦬