Back in the late 70's I dropped one of those beasts into a 71 Pinto. C6 tranny, 9in. Ford axle with a Detroit locker. Scary critter to drive. Looking back on it, it was a hack job, I was broke, and thought I knew way more than I did. Ahhhhhh, the good old days!
The holes in the head gasket get larger from front to rear. I’ve seen someone install them wrong, the result is no bueno. Also worth mentioning the cam retaining plate bolts have thin heads on them for clearance.
Those heads aren't huge but it's a Cleveland so it breathes well across the range So low RPM high velocity in the heads, aided by big cubes. Low hood clearance. Should be strong across the band and be able to turn fast with that solid roller. I demand a dyno video.
no you got it backwards the lash is going to be much tighter after things get hot and expand I set the lash for the cold setting I think you need to do a little more research before doing a solid valve adjustment the hot lash is .003 on the intake and .006 on exhaust if you set it for that cold as soon as it started to warm up the valves would hang open and the engine would loose all compression and possibly jam a valve into a piston
I have been using anaerobic sealant around water ports instead of silicone. However I do recommend silicone on the manifold ends instead of the gaskets that are provided. I have found anaerobic sealant less corrosive over time and certainly more pliable.
Will you show the finished product? AND. What happened with the 289 build? I’ve been waiting for the results on it for a while.. You have the most informative videos, thank you !!
I am building my first engine this summer. 351 clever in a 78 f 250 4x4. The engine is seized. I was hoping to to save it somehow. I do have another short block. I aint scared of it but I want success. I would hurt if I cobb the job. another great presentation sir. Have a great day
Why not build a nice 400 with all the good Cleveland top end pieces? A 400 with good parts run very very nice and are 100lbs lighter than a 385 series BB.
Just noticed (time line 9:48) the pistons are numbered for each cylinder but not in the proper cylinder based on number 1 cylinder being left front on block and number 5 is right front on block. #4 piston is in #5 and #5 is in 6 and #6 is in 7 and #7 is in 8. What am ii not seeing or am i missing something?. Great information on this stroker build!.
Thank you for all the info on cam clearance and lash settings. I have a similar build. With a hydraulic roller rocker, do you need to change your distributor gear to a bronze gear?
I noticed when you put the assembly lube on the bearing in the rod cap you just put a dab in the middle. Do you think that's adequate or should you take your finger and make sure the bearing is completely coated?
What are the specs on the heads, I'm looking to build a clevor engine to put in a Cobra replica, part number, valve size, flow numbers etc. I really enjoyed this build, thank you.
Edelbrock's website has all that info on these heads part number for them is 61695 I also have a complete parts list in the description of part 1 www.edelbrock.com/rpm-ford-351-cleveland-2v-cylinder-head-hydraulic-roller-camshaft-61695.html
Great build, but how do you Degree a Cam with a timing chain set..It is NOT adjustable.You can check the Cam timing but you can NOT adjust it /degree it..The 3 options are SET Timing,,NO adjustment..
Great video ! However i didn't see you cover checking camshaft endplay ! I,ve done a couple that were tight to the point it would've worn the chain quickly !
I noticed that the Trickflow version of these heads come with instructions to drill holes 3/16 into the deck of the block to expose water jackets into the head. Is that a trick flow only thing or is it apply to the stock and CHI reads also?
I think this is a super cool engine. I read about them years ago but I have a question. What is the point of this over building a 351 cleveland? weight? RPM range?
Windsor based engines enjoy more robust aftermarket support because of the 79-93 fox body market thru the late 90s until about today. But with the popularity of the coyote and LS based engines, were seeing a bit of a shift in that market. The aftermarket has seen some progress for the Cleveland. But it is nowhere near the windsor based engines. My personal belief is that the 5 litre Mustangs (fox body) has given the aftermarket a giant shot in the arm for generation X gear heads. Which has spurred support for all the other automotive manufacturers pony/performance offerings.
Yeah, why.?. The experts Say the 400 Cleveland has too big main bearings, SAME part # bearings as a 351 Windsor... Lots of misinformation ..So yes we have Cleveland Heads going on a Windsor, Because Cleveland Heads make power..Especially on a CLEVELAND
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Back in the late 70's I dropped one of those beasts into a 71 Pinto. C6 tranny, 9in. Ford axle with a Detroit locker. Scary critter to drive. Looking back on it, it was a hack job, I was broke, and thought I knew way more than I did. Ahhhhhh, the good old days!
Edelbrock and their perfect casting quality at it again 👌🏻
The holes in the head gasket get larger from front to rear. I’ve seen someone install them wrong, the result is no bueno. Also worth mentioning the cam retaining plate bolts have thin heads on them for clearance.
Fantastic job! Awesome learning channel!
Thank you 🤗
Goes for a rowdy solid roller. with a low rise dual plane... odd choice. but will be a great combo
Those heads aren't huge but it's a Cleveland so it breathes well across the range So low RPM high velocity in the heads, aided by big cubes. Low hood clearance. Should be strong across the band and be able to turn fast with that solid roller. I demand a dyno video.
I've never heard of the rod to cam interference! GREAT INFO! THANKS! (7:32)
Yep it is a concern on strokers
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You set the valve lash at the hot setting on a cold engine. After the engine is hot you will have to re-adjust all the valves again.
no you got it backwards the lash is going to be much tighter after things get hot and expand I set the lash for the cold setting I think you need to do a little more research before doing a solid valve adjustment the hot lash is .003 on the intake and .006 on exhaust if you set it for that cold as soon as it started to warm up the valves would hang open and the engine would loose all compression and possibly jam a valve into a piston
saw this too, cold setting for me is 10thou, ends up at 18 thou hot.
She's a beauty 😍, would love to hear it purr
I have been using anaerobic sealant around water ports instead of silicone. However I do recommend silicone on the manifold ends instead of the gaskets that are provided. I have found anaerobic sealant less corrosive over time and certainly more pliable.
the gaskets cannot be used if the block or the heads have been milled, they will leak every time
Will you show the finished product?
AND. What happened with the 289 build? I’ve been waiting for the results on it for a while..
You have the most informative videos, thank you !!
the 289 runs good made 330hp 356 tq the 351Stroker/Clever has not been fired up yet not my call
Sweet !! That's awesome !
Sure is!
Thanks for the video about the installation of the rings in the stroker engine not just how but why the oil scraper ring is installed the way it is
thx
😌 please make your next Ford build a 351 windsor build.
Actually this is a 351W we just made a change to the heads
I am building my first engine this summer. 351 clever in a 78 f 250 4x4. The engine is seized. I was hoping to to save it somehow. I do have another short block. I aint scared of it but I want success. I would hurt if I cobb the job. another great presentation sir. Have a great day
Do you know why the engine is seized? If you disassemble that engine, you might find it is a rebuildable core.
Why not build a nice 400 with all the good Cleveland top end pieces? A 400 with good parts run very very nice and are 100lbs lighter than a 385 series BB.
It would be silly to not have a dyno video on this thing. I predict a strong and responsive lower end and it will continue to make power past 6500
Just noticed (time line 9:48) the pistons are numbered for each cylinder but not in the proper cylinder based on number 1 cylinder being left front on block and number 5 is right front on block. #4 piston is in #5 and #5 is in 6 and #6 is in 7 and #7 is in 8. What am ii not seeing or am i missing something?. Great information on this stroker build!.
Great to see you back
thx
Once you use a tapered ring compressor you never want to use anything else
so true
Great job , supper job , thanks
What you best snap ring pliers
Lot of good information!
Thanks
Thank you for all the info on cam clearance and lash settings. I have a similar build. With a hydraulic roller rocker, do you need to change your distributor gear to a bronze gear?
It depends on the Cam you need to ask the Cam supplier that question
thank you
I noticed when you put the assembly lube on the bearing in the rod cap you just put a dab in the middle. Do you think that's adequate or should you take your finger and make sure the bearing is completely coated?
What are the specs on the heads, I'm looking to build a clevor engine to put in a Cobra replica, part number, valve size, flow numbers etc. I really enjoyed this build, thank you.
Edelbrock's website has all that info on these heads part number for them is 61695 I also have a complete parts list in the description of part 1
www.edelbrock.com/rpm-ford-351-cleveland-2v-cylinder-head-hydraulic-roller-camshaft-61695.html
Great build, but how do you Degree a Cam with a timing chain set..It is NOT adjustable.You can check the Cam timing but you can NOT adjust it /degree it..The 3 options are SET Timing,,NO adjustment..
Since Edelbrock discontinued the intake 7183 do know where I can find something that will work with the 9.5 deck height
A fellow is just jonesing for you to test one of those engines you build on the dyno
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Great video ! However i didn't see you cover checking camshaft endplay ! I,ve done a couple that were tight to the point it would've worn the chain quickly !
Yep did that off camera
What did you come up push today length?
I noticed that the Trickflow version of these heads come with instructions to drill holes 3/16 into the deck of the block to expose water jackets into the head. Is that a trick flow only thing or is it apply to the stock and CHI reads also?
I think this is a super cool engine. I read about them years ago but I have a question. What is the point of this over building a 351 cleveland? weight? RPM range?
the Clevland heads are much better, and the Windsor block is better best of both worlds
Windsor based engines enjoy more robust aftermarket support because of the 79-93 fox body market thru the late 90s until about today. But with the popularity of the coyote and LS based engines, were seeing a bit of a shift in that market. The aftermarket has seen some progress for the Cleveland. But it is nowhere near the windsor based engines.
My personal belief is that the 5 litre Mustangs (fox body) has given the aftermarket a giant shot in the arm for generation X gear heads. Which has spurred support for all the other automotive manufacturers pony/performance offerings.
Yeah, why.?. The experts Say the 400 Cleveland has too big main bearings, SAME part # bearings as a 351 Windsor... Lots of misinformation ..So yes we have Cleveland Heads going on a Windsor, Because Cleveland Heads make power..Especially on a CLEVELAND
I would like to know if I have a bore of 4.125 and a stroke of 4.125 X 8 what is my cubic inch displacement?
Google it, lots of websites have wizards that you can plug the numbers in and get an answer. Or do it the old way and get the formula.
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Is there any reason you would need to use a billet timing set with a billet cam? I can't see why other than it just being stronger than iron.
It's just higher quality/stronger
On the factory Ford Windsor block is there any cam clearance issues when it comes to stroking out the Ford factory engine?
There is
@@Myvintageiron7512 Would a small base circle cam help to prevent that?
Did you say it's for sale? Do you have a link for pricing?
When you're installing the intake bolts are you using any lube on those threads and under the bolt heads?
yes
Is the mounting pattern and port pattern the identical for Clevelands as Windsors?
mounting yes ports no
Quick question what is RV cam..
I'm not sure what you're asking this engine definitely does not have an RV cam
How can I get in touch with you ?
Not that I would do my own engine build I like to use the references and the terminology to make it seem I know what I'm talking about 😂
Samuel Brown I would you to rebuild a 1987 chevy caprice engine 5.0/305 V6. I think it a 305 engine.
sorry I am not doing customer work any more
4, 5, 6, & 7 on the same bank? What happened?
I numbered them wrong I has them stamped on the bottom with the correct locations
Try not to nick a cam bearing why don't cha.. the last cam journal will be difficult due to the lube used and the last journal that is kinda cupped.