Well Spain has joined the list and I tried it tonight first time. I had a tesla driver quite agitated that I was going to ruin my ID4. The good thing is it didn't. However , the membership bit with the app hadn't gone through properly the night before so I was billed the full amount. The great thing is it works and if you don't want to twiddle your thumbs and count sheep , you can now use a 150kw supercharger to charge your id4
Tesla Superchargers are the best and can be found everywhere..I think they will be tripling their Supercharger network in next 2 years. I plan to buy a Tesla soon.
@@maxou5757 Sorry to tell you that s unfortunately *not true. Tesla can make software but in term of hardware they are still behind. Never heard of Tesla panel gaps ? missmatchting parts, questionable painting, moisture inside the headlight, the list is long......
@@alinmustata I have seen many 2021 Tesla reviews and the quality consistency is definitely not on par with the germans. Yes i m talking about china made Teslas.
You should be made to pay a standing charge (1 euro per minute) in addition to the charging costs when you block 2 stalls and a Tesla or non-Tesla with the charge port on the correct (left side) is waiting. It's not Tesla's problem to start with, it's your problem. And 2 euro per minute if you don't move once charging is complete (same fee as others pay *per stall*). This will make different people mad from their point of view, hence the pilot program. You are lucky to have access at all. Actually, I am happy it is opening as we also have a non-Tesla in our family and the governments in Europe appear to have done a terrible job with tax payers money to build EV infrastructure. So this is a temporary problem then no need for people to get too mad about... Tesla should get government money for open charging infrastructure, then unlike other companies invest it back into making a better product for the customer as they usually do. Once tax payer money is part of the infrastructure, then yes you have a right to expect to charge on the "wrong" side. Until then, don't be surprised if somebody is mad at you blocking 2 stalls. You probably get less stress from other customers at v2 Superchargers, as every Tesla owner should already know if they charge right next to another car they share the same/half power (hence the A and B stall number suffix). I wouldn't be surprised if the Tesla app is updated to help as software is a quick and easy option. First feature needed is to reserve a stall and be advised based on your VIN number (= database of charge port location) which stall to use. Second feature, with respect only fair, is for other owners to report you are blocking their stall they have reserved. Your power is then turned off and you pay 2 euro per minute until you move.
Only available to locations where tesla opened their chargers to others. So as an italian(example) you cant charge on non-teslas, because tesla didnt open it for italian costumers
I joined the Tesla Club.. but not the way I imagined :D Tell me here below what more I need to test with a Tesla Supercharger as a NON-Tesla ⬇ Also i now the 2 mutes.. it still.. happens.
It would be great to see what it’s like at a busier location - maybe with a good mix of cars - to see in reality how much of a problem the different charge port locations are. Maybe you could try and organise a group of drivers with non-Tesla with charge ports in the ‘wrong’ location to show that a line of them charging doesn’t really ‘block’ a stall.
Charging 10-80% charging curve to see if it is any different from other charging stations, and like others mention find a more busy location if possible
The 'solution' is that a mix of Tesla's and non-Tesla's will come to these stations, some with charging on the right, some on the left but they will group together and therefore maximizing the usage of the location to say 80-90%. As long as there are enough chargers on each location (say 20-30) and enough charging locations, which is Tesla's goal I think, there will be more than enough chargers to keep everybody happy. And Tesla will make a lot of money. Remember, EV's are 80-90% of the times charged overnight so fast chargers are only needed for long distance trips unlike ICE vehicle which all need to go to a gas station to fill up. So I think there is no argument to say it's bad for non-Tesla's with ports on the right to charge at supercharger locations because they are blocking two stalls. Speaking as both a Tesla MS owner and a Porsche Taycan owner (charging right front, just as left rear on a Tesla).... BTW I think Ionity gets it all wrong with their 4 stall per location lunacy and 79 cents for drop in charging so I would very much welcome Tesla opening up all over Europe...
This is cool, for non Tesla. For Tesla is not so good, since to charge your ID.4, you block 2 stalls, since the Plug is on the other side in Teslas. Well, we will see.
I had a problem - selecting Switzerland did not show the option for charging non-Tesla car. So I've removed my account, registered again as Germany and still provided swiss credit card. I'll test tomorrow to see if this actually worked ;)
Great video here in the US probably gonna take little while Tesla put on their website CCS home charger for sale as well and we have 3 years free with Electrify America which is building stations all around the country. In my point of view the more options we have the better
Most of the time Im almost alone at a supercharger but therefore is this only a test phase. If Tesla will have many new customers many new supercharger will be build.
Some of the newer charge areas were built with non-Teslas in mind so you don't have that issue. I suspect they'll do something to alleviate the older ones.
I don't mind others using the Tesla superchargers when it isn't busy, but at busy times Tesla vehicles should have priority... I'm also worried about cars blocking 2 spaces, essentially halving the capacity of the supercharger station.
Why? Money is money and musk dont give A shit as long as the money comes in. Get out of dreamland, this is the future. Just Wait till i come with my slow charging car.
@@dennisbjergmadsen5163 because blocking 2 spaces is not cost effective for Tesla, I am a shareholder and I'm all for Tesla making more money, but clogging up the charge points with 2 bays blocked and also unhappy Tesla customers will in the short term not be great for Tesla share price. In order to bridge the gap and keep everybody happy I think reserving a few spots for Tesla only at busy locations makes sense.
I just watched a video on the new ID5. Apparently it has the new software 3.0 and 135kW charging. So I guess that's coming to your car soon! Thanks ID Furkan
@@EV.Furkan haha. Darn. Well I haven't even driven an ID4 yet. They are just starting to arrive in Canada this week. I'm not sure when a test car will be available and once I make a decision I probably wouldn't get my car until next summer.
I get for another countries this might help, but for Americans we get 3 years of free elecrtify America, which is better imo, bc you save like 50 or 60 bucks charging a ID.4, and some Electrify America chargers are faster than Tesla superchargers.
@ 5:27 the charge option is gone in the app, it's only the "Explore" left, did it come back again after a restart of the app or did you re-install the app again to get it back?
Left rear standardisation makes sense. Down the track, you might see Tesla supplying their skateboards to other OEMs and integrating their charging software into the bundle. There will be far more Teslas than non-Teslas in the global fleet and it doesn't make sense to re-do the entire charging network to accommodate the design preferences of the OEMs. If they want their customers to benefit from one of Teslas chief advantages, they should fall in line with Tesla's standards, not the other way around.
Presumably you need to be in Holland to get this app version as UK version has no means to charge or link to 'non Tesla' car for charging and so cannot prepare to go abroad where this is available?
This is all Europe and doesn't work in the USA because we don't have the same type of hardware on the VW. The EU makes all builders use the ccs . It would be nice to have but only in emergency as the price is high.
Thanks for the video. I think it's going to be a while before the superchargers here in the USA are open but it's good news. BTW I heard VW is going to release a software update to 3.0 soon with the new ID.5, which is also not coming to the USA. Let us know what you think about it when you get it.
No, you get the full speed depending on the charger location for a 400v car. Also keep in mind the v2 chargers power can be split into 2 when used by 2 cars (a/b)
You shouldn’t block two stalls … if your car don’t have the correct port location, don’t use it, it’s not smart for other users. Two stalls for one car… no… wait for improvement from Tesla or use a compatible car. Uncivilized actions like this is not acceptable… ok some spots are free but you don’t know how it will be few minutes later.
Taking up two charging stations is horrible. Also, if they increase cable length, teslas can probably start taking up two stations too in some scenarios.
I dont know why Tesla allows this as there will be so many cases where 2 spots are blocked because of having the load point at the wrong side. Will end up in a lot of unfriendly discussions i assume unfortunately.
There's no card readers or any other interface on Tesla superchargers. They recognize the cars via the charging cable. So I guess over the app is the only way for non-Tesla users.
@@RufftaMan Germany, UK and probably more European countries are making credit card readers mandatory on public charging stations so we shall see what will Tesla do.
@@agemmm seems a huge step backwards though. Better enable cars to be recognized by the chargers, like Tesla does. It really seems like everybody is trying to catch up to Tesla, but they're doing it wrong. Nobody wants to fumble around with credit cards and shit, just plug in the car and walk away.
@@RufftaMan Well card readers are a good solusion for EV conversions. There is a EV kit for 911 that supports 150kW DC charging. Of course the charging station can't recognize a cool EV conversion. Also imported EVs from Asia for example that have modified plug to support CCS. We can't be slaves to automakers. There should be a freedom to import cars and modify them. There are a lot of cool EVs that are not available in Europe. EV conversion can't support Plug&Charge since it requires trusted OEM server to authenticate.
@@agemmm Good point, but an app solves all these problems, so I still see no reason for card readers. That's just one more thing to break on the charger. A better solution would be to unify all charging providers to use the same app, so you don't need 10 accounts for different chargers. Edit: I wonder however if Tesla will even allow this. They disable supercharging on Teslas that were in accidents, if you don't get them checked at a service center, for safety reasons, so I doubt they will allow you to supercharge your home-built car.
that happens if the connector is not standardized. Thats why its easy to do it in europe. tesla's [3/y] and most non teslas use CCS2 for quick charging. Easy to open them up for the "public" without any extra cost
It's good for tesla to get more income, but cars taking more than 1 spot is a real problem at busier times 😡 . I can see alot of arguments on the horizon
Tesla can make longer cables that can reach both sides, or install more pass through stalls. More pass through stalls would be ideal as it would accommodate people pulling trailers, bike racks, etc, AND non tesla vehicles without the problem of blocking an adjacent stall. The other solution to congestion is the build more superchargers... which Tesla has promised to triple in the next two years.
@@sandpine Longer cables are not the best idea, since nobody wants them to hang around to be tripped over and scrape along the floor, damaging them over time or damaging the cars. Pull-through spots seem optimal, although they would need twice as many parking spots to work for everyone.
Hopefully this works out good for all EV car brands but with the low subscription price/KW hour rate and being able to only subscribe for one month, I foresee Tesla losing car sales. I know many people who purchased a Tesla because of the Supercharger network some of those future buyers (maybe even me) will more seriously consider other EV brands. Paying the 13.00 euro subscription fee is a no brainer unless you are required to pay month by month for on entire year.
But they will lose potential sales because now they can buy a second hand ev or a new EV for half of the price of a tesla and still use the Supercharger network. And that's what he is saying, but like any other EV manufacturer out there. Most cars are atleast sold out till mid 2022..if not end 2023
@@EV.Furkan but u cud also say every other company is losing sales to Tesla because they make a great product. Everyone has a different reason for buying a product. Sure someone may buy a non Tesla now to use the SC system but think about the net new buyers who want a Tesla.
@@FeatureRequest I think you are correct all I am saying is some buyers, considering a none Tesla vehicle, might purchase a Tesla because of what they have heard about the great Supercharger network experience. Hopefully that experience continues moving forward and improves! I foresee owning at least one Tesla going forward, possibly two.
@@EV.Furkan my whole PT is basically sure Tesla will lose some sales due to this but they will also lose sales to other EV models just because people have different taste. Pointing it out is kind of pointless because it's not a fundamental risk. Tesla will keep on expanding the network regardless if someone thinks they may lose sales because the whole PT is to create an EV ecosystem/infrastructure that just simply works great. The demand for EVs is just crazy and there just isn't enough supply to meet demand. So the idea of losing sales is silly because if there are constant new net buyers of Tesla then the argument is wrong.
Well Spain has joined the list and I tried it tonight first time. I had a tesla driver quite agitated that I was going to ruin my ID4.
The good thing is it didn't. However , the membership bit with the app hadn't gone through properly the night before so I was billed the full amount. The great thing is it works and if you don't want to twiddle your thumbs and count sheep , you can now use a 150kw supercharger to charge your id4
Thanks for the video. Please show more of this. Hopefully Tesla can implement that proof of concept in their new supercharger build.
Great qualitative video Furkan! 👌👌👌love the LIVE screen recording
Nice straightforward video. I'm in UK and thinking of an ID4. You answered my concern about which side and length of cable. Cheers
Thank you for testing the tesla charging,hope you will do more test on different locations 😀👍
Tesla Superchargers are the best and can be found everywhere..I think they will be tripling their Supercharger network in next 2 years. I plan to buy a Tesla soon.
You could buy other EV that has better hardware than Tesla while using Tesla chargers.
@@jonpetter8921 No other EV has better hardware than Tesla.
@@maxou5757 Sorry to tell you that s unfortunately *not true. Tesla can make software but in term of hardware they are still behind. Never heard of Tesla panel gaps ? missmatchting parts, questionable painting, moisture inside the headlight, the list is long......
@@jonpetter8921 those are things of the past, check a new 2021 Tesla and you will see.
@@alinmustata I have seen many 2021 Tesla reviews and the quality consistency is definitely not on par with the germans. Yes i m talking about china made Teslas.
You should be made to pay a standing charge (1 euro per minute) in addition to the charging costs when you block 2 stalls and a Tesla or non-Tesla with the charge port on the correct (left side) is waiting. It's not Tesla's problem to start with, it's your problem. And 2 euro per minute if you don't move once charging is complete (same fee as others pay *per stall*).
This will make different people mad from their point of view, hence the pilot program. You are lucky to have access at all. Actually, I am happy it is opening as we also have a non-Tesla in our family and the governments in Europe appear to have done a terrible job with tax payers money to build EV infrastructure. So this is a temporary problem then no need for people to get too mad about...
Tesla should get government money for open charging infrastructure, then unlike other companies invest it back into making a better product for the customer as they usually do. Once tax payer money is part of the infrastructure, then yes you have a right to expect to charge on the "wrong" side. Until then, don't be surprised if somebody is mad at you blocking 2 stalls.
You probably get less stress from other customers at v2 Superchargers, as every Tesla owner should already know if they charge right next to another car they share the same/half power (hence the A and B stall number suffix).
I wouldn't be surprised if the Tesla app is updated to help as software is a quick and easy option. First feature needed is to reserve a stall and be advised based on your VIN number (= database of charge port location) which stall to use. Second feature, with respect only fair, is for other owners to report you are blocking their stall they have reserved. Your power is then turned off and you pay 2 euro per minute until you move.
Thanks, this helped!
Thank you. I was looking all around to see why I do not see the option on my tesla app " charge your non-tesla"vehicle
Only available to locations where tesla opened their chargers to others. So as an italian(example) you cant charge on non-teslas, because tesla didnt open it for italian costumers
I joined the Tesla Club.. but not the way I imagined :D
Tell me here below what more I need to test with a Tesla Supercharger as a NON-Tesla ⬇
Also i now the 2 mutes.. it still.. happens.
It would be great to see what it’s like at a busier location - maybe with a good mix of cars - to see in reality how much of a problem the different charge port locations are. Maybe you could try and organise a group of drivers with non-Tesla with charge ports in the ‘wrong’ location to show that a line of them charging doesn’t really ‘block’ a stall.
Charging 10-80% charging curve to see if it is any different from other charging stations, and like others mention find a more busy location if possible
next time, pls use the last charger in the row, if possible ;-)
Cool!
The 'solution' is that a mix of Tesla's and non-Tesla's will come to these stations, some with charging on the right, some on the left but they will group together and therefore maximizing the usage of the location to say 80-90%. As long as there are enough chargers on each location (say 20-30) and enough charging locations, which is Tesla's goal I think, there will be more than enough chargers to keep everybody happy. And Tesla will make a lot of money. Remember, EV's are 80-90% of the times charged overnight so fast chargers are only needed for long distance trips unlike ICE vehicle which all need to go to a gas station to fill up. So I think there is no argument to say it's bad for non-Tesla's with ports on the right to charge at supercharger locations because they are blocking two stalls. Speaking as both a Tesla MS owner and a Porsche Taycan owner (charging right front, just as left rear on a Tesla).... BTW I think Ionity gets it all wrong with their 4 stall per location lunacy and 79 cents for drop in charging so I would very much welcome Tesla opening up all over Europe...
This is cool, for non Tesla. For Tesla is not so good, since to charge your ID.4, you block 2 stalls, since the Plug is on the other side in Teslas. Well, we will see.
Good for Tesla pretty good, getting payed while advertising.
This is so awesome, can't wait for it to be released in DK.
These Voice-Cracks holy shit man :) Good vid!
I had a problem - selecting Switzerland did not show the option for charging non-Tesla car. So I've removed my account, registered again as Germany and still provided swiss credit card. I'll test tomorrow to see if this actually worked ;)
Well done, just blocked two stalls 🤦♂️
Surely it’s not his fault, this is a pilot program
hey man if you want i can come with a trailer and block 5 stalls instead if youre not impressed
Blocked for who? Was it a que?
relax
Thanks for sharing.
Great video here in the US probably gonna take little while Tesla put on their website CCS home charger for sale as well and we have 3 years free with Electrify America which is building stations all around the country. In my point of view the more options we have the better
Thanks for admitting you need 2 stalls to charge 1 car. Tesla should sort this out before too long or it will defeat the whole purpose
Most of the time Im almost alone at a supercharger but therefore is this only a test phase. If Tesla will have many new customers many new supercharger will be build.
Some of the newer charge areas were built with non-Teslas in mind so you don't have that issue. I suspect they'll do something to alleviate the older ones.
what is Tesla doing about the 2 stall problem? I've heard nothing. longer leads plus signage ? I don't know, hasn't come to my country yet.
I don't mind others using the Tesla superchargers when it isn't busy, but at busy times Tesla vehicles should have priority... I'm also worried about cars blocking 2 spaces, essentially halving the capacity of the supercharger station.
Why?
Money is money and musk dont give A shit as long as the money comes in.
Get out of dreamland, this is the future.
Just Wait till i come with my slow charging car.
@@dennisbjergmadsen5163 because blocking 2 spaces is not cost effective for Tesla, I am a shareholder and I'm all for Tesla making more money, but clogging up the charge points with 2 bays blocked and also unhappy Tesla customers will in the short term not be great for Tesla share price. In order to bridge the gap and keep everybody happy I think reserving a few spots for Tesla only at busy locations makes sense.
Bonjour hi
Merci Tx pour votre vidéo
I just watched a video on the new ID5. Apparently it has the new software 3.0 and 135kW charging. So I guess that's coming to your car soon! Thanks ID Furkan
'soon' its like 6.months away lol
@@EV.Furkan haha. Darn. Well I haven't even driven an ID4 yet. They are just starting to arrive in Canada this week. I'm not sure when a test car will be available and once I make a decision I probably wouldn't get my car until next summer.
Now i can charge my Mercedes
I get for another countries this might help, but for Americans we get 3 years of free elecrtify America, which is better imo, bc you save like 50 or 60 bucks charging a ID.4, and some Electrify America chargers are faster than Tesla superchargers.
@ 5:27 the charge option is gone in the app, it's only the "Explore" left, did it come back again after a restart of the app or did you re-install the app again to get it back?
after a restart of the app it came back.
How about EV makers put charging port at left rear. Tesla was obviously first…
Or longer power cables?
Left rear standardisation makes sense. Down the track, you might see Tesla supplying their skateboards to other OEMs and integrating their charging software into the bundle. There will be far more Teslas than non-Teslas in the global fleet and it doesn't make sense to re-do the entire charging network to accommodate the design preferences of the OEMs. If they want their customers to benefit from one of Teslas chief advantages, they should fall in line with Tesla's standards, not the other way around.
As you park at the street and charge ac from the lamppost, it is way easier to have charger placed on the right side (in Europe left hand drive).
Presumably you need to be in Holland to get this app version as UK version has no means to charge or link to 'non Tesla' car for charging and so cannot prepare to go abroad where this is available?
i've no clue if its region locked by Tesla. You could always try when you are in France to check again if the non-tesla charging pop-ups
Dankje ,mijn Peugeot e2008 werkt het helaas niet,
This is all Europe and doesn't work in the USA because we don't have the same type of hardware on the VW. The EU makes all builders use the ccs . It would be nice to have but only in emergency as the price is high.
only at 10 SuC in the netherlands. Not Europe Wide... yet
Thank you for the information. Unfortunately this does not appear to be available in UK. Why am I surprised!
Not yet. Elon just need to snap his fingers and it will work
So you parked at the wrong station. Wh not just go to the 3 stand alone ones to begin with?
Explore all facilities of charging center... for new users.
Elon Musk has let non Tesla owners down by not giving them access to Tesla Superchargers !!!
Thanks for the video. I think it's going to be a while before the superchargers here in the USA are open but it's good news. BTW I heard VW is going to release a software update to 3.0 soon with the new ID.5, which is also not coming to the USA. Let us know what you think about it when you get it.
March 2022 earliest for the 3.0.
Sill waiting for 2.3.
Uwnd findest du das gut 2 plätze blockieren machst du den linken platz frei wenn ein tesla kommt und den platz braucht
they should have it so you didnt even know your phone,,, just plug and its tied to your cars number and your charge card
Do you know any tesla plans for other European countries?
Can I ask what kind of speeds you were pulling from the superchargers? DC chargers seem all over the place in terms of speed.
47-63
Will do a proper charge test with a lower SoC% later on
Hi guys, I dont have this charge a non Tesla option? What am I doing wrong?
Not living in a country where tesla enabled “Charging for non-tesla”
@@EV.Furkan aha, so it’s not enabled in every country? I am in Germany by the way.
Ok, thanks anyway ✌️
Is non tesla charging only limited to 50kwh?
No, you get the full speed depending on the charger location for a 400v car. Also keep in mind the v2 chargers power can be split into 2 when used by 2 cars (a/b)
We are in Sweden . It's not working for us . I downloaded but when I login i can see charge section .... Just Tesla cars models
NL only
Possibly it is going to change… NL prepares the field for other European countries…
You shouldn’t block two stalls … if your car don’t have the correct port location, don’t use it, it’s not smart for other users. Two stalls for one car… no… wait for improvement from Tesla or use a compatible car. Uncivilized actions like this is not acceptable… ok some spots are free but you don’t know how it will be few minutes later.
Thanks for the research and proof of concept.
Taking up two charging stations is horrible. Also, if they increase cable length, teslas can probably start taking up two stations too in some scenarios.
Is that an id4 or an id5? I sense that the software on your infotainment system is different. I have never seen an aerial view of my parking
Id4 with 360 cam/Areaview.
That feature only comes on the EU models... :(
I'm in Spain... so I guess it's a pro s upgrade
Can you buy a wallbox in the Tesla shop?
Yup, can buy everything
I dont know why Tesla allows this as there will be so many cases where 2 spots are blocked because of having the load point at the wrong side. Will end up in a lot of unfriendly discussions i assume unfortunately.
Luckily they're expanding the network like 3x over the next 2 years
@@thomas8421 yes which Then might Work out
...Maybe you can get your Money back for that Defective Mic.
Kind of annoying that you can't use the WeCharge card and instead have to install an app. Still nice to have.
There's no card readers or any other interface on Tesla superchargers.
They recognize the cars via the charging cable. So I guess over the app is the only way for non-Tesla users.
@@RufftaMan Germany, UK and probably more European countries are making credit card readers mandatory on public charging stations so we shall see what will Tesla do.
@@agemmm seems a huge step backwards though. Better enable cars to be recognized by the chargers, like Tesla does.
It really seems like everybody is trying to catch up to Tesla, but they're doing it wrong. Nobody wants to fumble around with credit cards and shit, just plug in the car and walk away.
@@RufftaMan Well card readers are a good solusion for EV conversions. There is a EV kit for 911 that supports 150kW DC charging. Of course the charging station can't recognize a cool EV conversion. Also imported EVs from Asia for example that have modified plug to support CCS. We can't be slaves to automakers. There should be a freedom to import cars and modify them. There are a lot of cool EVs that are not available in Europe. EV conversion can't support Plug&Charge since it requires trusted OEM server to authenticate.
@@agemmm Good point, but an app solves all these problems, so I still see no reason for card readers. That's just one more thing to break on the charger.
A better solution would be to unify all charging providers to use the same app, so you don't need 10 accounts for different chargers.
Edit: I wonder however if Tesla will even allow this. They disable supercharging on Teslas that were in accidents, if you don't get them checked at a service center, for safety reasons, so I doubt they will allow you to supercharge your home-built car.
Non Tesla owners in the USA !!!!
that happens if the connector is not standardized. Thats why its easy to do it in europe. tesla's [3/y] and most non teslas use CCS2 for quick charging. Easy to open them up for the "public" without any extra cost
What do I do if I haven't got a smartphone?
You Tweet Elon Musk
More like tweet VW to expedite PlugNCharge capability. 😉
@@markwaterfield2084 Thanks.
You have an EV but not a smartphone? I think you are discovering the modern world the wrong way around 🙂
@@TjBijlsma Or they need a super reliable, super durable flip phone for work. I still see those on occasion where I live. XP
It's good for tesla to get more income, but cars taking more than 1 spot is a real problem at busier times 😡 . I can see alot of arguments on the horizon
Tesla can make longer cables that can reach both sides, or install more pass through stalls. More pass through stalls would be ideal as it would accommodate people pulling trailers, bike racks, etc, AND non tesla vehicles without the problem of blocking an adjacent stall. The other solution to congestion is the build more superchargers... which Tesla has promised to triple in the next two years.
@@sandpine Longer cables are not the best idea, since nobody wants them to hang around to be tripped over and scrape along the floor, damaging them over time or damaging the cars.
Pull-through spots seem optimal, although they would need twice as many parking spots to work for everyone.
This does not work anymore.
You missed the memo of opening them up for non tesla in the Netherlands. It's still open
*Ne faites pas ça en France, ça va partir en Baguarre*
C’est qu’un projet dans seulement 10 stations aux Pays-Bas, c’est pas encore disponible en France
Hopefully this works out good for all EV car brands but with the low subscription price/KW hour rate and being able to only subscribe for one month, I foresee Tesla losing car sales. I know many people who purchased a Tesla because of the Supercharger network some of those future buyers (maybe even me) will more seriously consider other EV brands. Paying the 13.00 euro subscription fee is a no brainer unless you are required to pay month by month for on entire year.
u foresee them losing car sales? I bet u anything Tesla will continue to sell more and more cars every quarter going forward.
But they will lose potential sales because now they can buy a second hand ev or a new EV for half of the price of a tesla and still use the Supercharger network. And that's what he is saying, but like any other EV manufacturer out there. Most cars are atleast sold out till mid 2022..if not end 2023
@@EV.Furkan but u cud also say every other company is losing sales to Tesla because they make a great product. Everyone has a different reason for buying a product. Sure someone may buy a non Tesla now to use the SC system but think about the net new buyers who want a Tesla.
@@FeatureRequest I think you are correct all I am saying is some buyers, considering a none Tesla vehicle, might purchase a Tesla because of what they have heard about the great Supercharger network experience. Hopefully that experience continues moving forward and improves! I foresee owning at least one Tesla going forward, possibly two.
@@EV.Furkan my whole PT is basically sure Tesla will lose some sales due to this but they will also lose sales to other EV models just because people have different taste. Pointing it out is kind of pointless because it's not a fundamental risk. Tesla will keep on expanding the network regardless if someone thinks they may lose sales because the whole PT is to create an EV ecosystem/infrastructure that just simply works great. The demand for EVs is just crazy and there just isn't enough supply to meet demand. So the idea of losing sales is silly because if there are constant new net buyers of Tesla then the argument is wrong.
Maybe it would be easier in you stop whining and buy a Tesla.
You should use the furthest right spot not to block any charger. Just use your brain.
You need to be happy I'm not blocking 3 chargers
@@EV.Furkan you should never forget you have no sentry mode.
no way its clima-friedly!elons way: drive much, pay half price so stupid. crazy... its just way to making money.