Mr House and Ulysses Debate History
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Before his confrontation with the Courier at the end of the Lonesome Road, Ulysses visits Mr. House, to warn him of his self-destructive philosophy.
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I can't imagine Ulysses finishing a discussion in 8 and a half minutes. That's just his first paragraph.
Ik it would be a run on but that's not even close to his first sentence
A meeting between Ulysses and Joshua Graham would be hella awkward.
It would also be interesting
Interesting conversation indeed.
"Hey- *BLAM"
They've met before in canon
They already met in the lore. Josuhua Graham even tells you about him, as does Christine and the Think Tank.
A meeting between Mr House and Father Elijah would be interesting, I'd imagine they would have a lot in common even though both would not admit it.
I think Ulysses would call Mr. House the "Old world ghost" But at the same time in cannon he views Caesars Legion as the wrong path forward and a failed state.
Hmmm, This makes me wonder how Ulysses and Paarthurnax from Skyrim would converse. Both have or were willing to, commit horrendous atrocities in the name of their beliefs, and yet Ulysses, after his confrontation with the Courier, if he survives, holds his vigil, as Paarthurnax hold his, at the top of the mountain.
Wait i got a good one. Rorschach from
Watchmen and Batman debate justice. They are pretty much the same but one spares criminals and the other chooses to cleanse the world of the filth with violence
Joker immunity vs Rorschach constantly pushing him down elevator shafts.
@@douglasbabb1725 Rorschach is gonna give joker his great punchline😂😂😂
The irony of House is that he is only able to do the things he did because of the business empire he built using the very system he claims to despise.
The only issue I have with this is that House is quite adamant throughout the game that he doesn't want to take freedom from people. He makes deals with others and wants people staying out of his way, but he doesn't intervene unless others threaten or attack him, even when others are acting as obstacles to what he wants or have something he desires.
He's an Autocrat only of people who willingly enter into service with him, or join whatever oasis he and those with him have established.
It's interesting that he demanded the destruction of the Brotherhood of Steel though , a faction that never threatened or opposed him as far as I remember, he simply showed disdain for their ideals.
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They were quite open internally about wanting to raid New Vegas, take control of it, and kill House if he didn't submit (especially if you put Hardin in control). They also have a reputation around the Mojave for attacking any caravan that has technology they deem to be "in the wrong hands" (they are the first group Cass thinks of when she's figuring out who's been attacking the independent caravans). If I recall correctly, House also indicates that they've attacked his securitrons before.
Given they are open about their tech-hording ideals, and the history of their methods (being associated with blowing of the Master due to the Vault Dweller, likewise being associated with blowing up the oil rig due to the Chosen One, and their New Vegas history of fighting the NCR due to tech disagreements & destroying a portion of the NCR's gold reserves), I'd say it makes sense for him to be adamant in demanding the destruction of the Brotherhood. Top it off with their hoarding ideals and disdain is probably him biting his tongue (and I doubt there's any reasonable way you could convince him to let you spare them - you could be their leader and he'd still demand you at least exile them from the Mojave).
@@totallynotabot12 I believe that if you do the Yes-Man ending and choose to ignore the Brotherhood Yes-Man calculates that they will be a threat in the future. Maybe Mr. House came to this conclusion? 🤔
@@DBArtsCreators Plus BoS NPCs in the bunker do talk about wanting to send squads to attack more of House's securitrons, so that pretty much confirms they have no intention of playing nice.
@@totallynotabot12 Brotherhood of Steel is a threat to anyone that holds advanced technologies, which is why Mr. House orders you to destroy them.
I must admit... Ulysses definitely won this battle of convigcions.
WAY BETTER than _Fallout 76_ !!!
My first pimple had more elegance and cultural significance than 76.
Debate culture in northen Mojave certainly grew after such thoughtfull argument, i must admit
P.S. this is actually very well written fanfiction characters interaction, i wish you were writer for The Frontier. You earned yourself a new subscriber, sir or ma'm
i'm curious about one between Rex (star wars) and Johnson (halo). Both were soldiers in a war if a sci-fi universe.
Another video idea I have is Carmen Sandtiago, Catwoman and Black Cat debating about the best crime.
I would love to see Mr. House get into a debate with X or Zero from the Megaman X series. X and Zero had spent their whole lives fighting non-stop, barely saving the world long enough so it could flourish with life after it had become a dystopian wasteland. For all of Mr. House's belief in control and machines being the answer to humanity's salvation in a ruined world, X and Zero have lived their whole lives seeing it utterly fail time and time again.
You should definitely try someone from Dragon Age (like Morrigan with her “survival of the fittest” ideology and Solas with his “cause and effect”). Oh, and of course fans favourite: JC ‘what a shame’ Denton!
Hmm…interesting.
If I may suggest any kind of debate, how bout one between 2 leaders of mercenaries trying to make a haven for the badass and free sell swords of their worlds. So Big Boss from MGS (1 through Peace Walker) and um…hm…well…”not”-Big Boss from MGS 5?
Or at least 1 of the Big Boss’s and someone else who I can’t think of off the top of my head. 😅
What I've just seen is a masterpiece of dialogue writing. Both have their points and I wish a conversation like this would take place in the game, should Ulysses survive at the end of Lonesome Road.
You have made true art. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
This is fantastic. Just subscribed. 👍
Welcome aboard! Thank you :)
@@TheCouriersGambit No problem. Peace ✌🏻
It would fit perfectly in the base game, the Ulysses pesimism about mr house plans fits well inhis character.
Ulysses always comes across as a sophist, using lots of metaphors and rhetorical flourish but ultimately never conveying his point clearly and staying vague to try and sound deep.
It's very annoying to listen to for an extended point of time. I much prefer Mr House, at least he's trying to get an actual point across.
That’s kinda true to the game, though.
A lot of "Fallout Fans" fail to understand Ulysses is a tribal, that's why all the hate towards him is solely directef the way he speaks. It's why he speaks so long because even though his intelligent he isn't educated thus why he talks For so long as his trying to explain different concepts but doesn't know the right simple terminology to use as he had to forcibly learn English from the Legion who valued the recollection and long detailed break down of information in order to keep there subordinates on there toes at all times and disciplined. Thus why when he raises his voice you can hear it crack and a slight accent crop up when you agrivate him.
Not to mention when you talk to him you notice he always stops mid sentence between his words, and sometimes even parroting a couple of the Couriers own dialogue when you speak to him so that we better understand what his getting at.
Not to mention his tribe were likely oral traditionalist where the conveying of long detailed information was essential for there history and culture to be passed, hance why he doesn't write and only communicates via holo tapes. And due to the Cultural differences his essentially obligated to go into more detail in order to explain his points but not really knowing the right words for the simple terminologies. It's less to do with him purposely trying to be edgy (for the most part at least) and more so to do with the fact it's just how he talks.
It's kind of a nother point that makes up Ulysses character as his Culture is long dead and decimated to the point we wouldn't know this simple fact.
For me as a character he had potential and was damhe near the best character i have ever read about. But he would have worked better if he was inducted and part of the base game as it would allow for better pacing of his dilouge as it's less of the fact he speaks to much and more saw to do with the fact so much of his dilouge is crunched up in such long bursts due to time reason.
Though I can understand the hate sometimes I feel like people are dunking on him for the wrong reasons all because Bethesda didn't bother to give obsidian time to better induct most of there cut content in to the base game. And I honestly love Ulysses and he would have worked better if lonesome road was given more content in the form of extra quests and at the very least a couple pf character's who manged to survive the devidem. Plus making the DLC slightly longer to get us more antiquated with Ulysses.
Can you do one where Joshua Graham debates Haytham Kenway on freedom and control. Obviously thats more of Haytham’s specialty but i feel like Joshua Graham would have something interesting to add given his experience with the NCR and the legion.
Whoops. My first one was meant for a different comment but apparently someone posted something which moved yours down and i clicked it by accident
@@poseidonetn.u.s.ebranch2610 where is your first comment?
This just reminds me of how I need to finish my Lone Courier Fanfic where my character being born in DC and being an expert in history, would have his own ideas on American Restoration. Basically Agreeing with the Enclave in concept but disagreeing with them in how they went about it.
now this is a debate
Elijah debating technology with house would be cool to do as well. Or Kaiser and house
It's pure poetic irony that House talks about being challenged being amusing because of how easily he gets taken out. Ulysses was a far better opponent.
Well that’s a gameplay decision
Which honestly should’ve been harder
well, he kinda gambles inviting courier inside lucky 38. Not to mention that many things was cut because of ps3/xbox 360 hardware, and only 18 months to finish work
I wonder if you can do a Magneto versus Goliath video? Another thing I liked about your video, it was an amazing job with the debate.
I know she's long dead by now, but I always wondered what a conversation with Tandi and figures like House and Ulysses would be like.
I'm enjoying these videos but I should ask, are there other games besides Fallout that you feel like doing?
Any chances we can have a debate between Garrus Vakarian and Batman regarding their own approaches to vigilantism?
Ulysses comes off as an educated savage arguing for a way of life from thousands of years ago.
Wonder whats joshua thinks of the brotherhood of steel?
Same 👍
I love this as well it kinda makes it feel like all of this happen before the start of the Game...........kinda in a way :D I love foreshadowing :D
How do you use the custom character voices with Eleven? Would you do a how-to tutorial
I'm not into modding community, but I'm really curious about is people started doing mods for major characters like Caesar, House or whatever, since AI can copy their voices quite well? Or is there something in a way of it, since honestly post game mod where we do additional stuff for House or whoever sounds really exciting to me.
How did you get such a clean voice? I used the AI and I have no resources on Ulysses voice
Can you do one of Superman debate Khan (Star Trek) about power and authority.
Overwatch and TF2 debate the ethics of war.
Do a video with Frieza or Goku Black!
Joshua graham and frank horrigan debate??
If the courier shared the Big Empty’s tech with the followers of the apocalypse then I think the wasteland would be in a better place imo.
Depends if he just shared medical tech. If it was everything, then the followers would have to be smart enough to have a defense if not they’d just be waiting to lose everything to whoever decided to kill and steal from them
@@MrTHEMONEEMAKER The sink could help the followers, especially if they’re all fully upgraded.
@Ai Frye I have a question to ask if it is okay??
My only complaint with the Mr. House videos is that it seems whoever comes in can't even get past the greeting without trying to challenge the guy to a debate on the civilization hes been building.
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Ulysses needs to learn how to speak in complete sentences.