I struggled with One wheel for over an hour before coming up with this exact method. Holy crap wish it would have been in non existent instructions. But it's part of the hobby to come up with solutions.😊 Now that little bent paperclip has it's own special place on my tool rail.
Wow, this was an awesome 'how to' video. I just got my RC4WD 1.0" Beadlock Steel Wheels (Black) in the mail today and when I opened the package I realized there were no instructions anywhere. I am just a beginner and I am venturing into doing some mods on my CR-18 crawlers and my Panda Hobby Tetra x2 as well. I was going to call RC4WD to send me an instruction manual but I did something better... thank goodness I found your video! Thank you so much for this and now all I have to do is buy the right tools. 🤔
Glad to be of help. One thing that I forgot to mention on the video is to use a bit of blue locktite on the screws, and make sure to not overtighten the screws...very fragile.
That paper clip idea was genius. I watched a couple other videos before this one and saw it to be quite a complicated process but this just made it look super easy thanks to that paper clip. Thank you so much for the great video!
My stamped wheels and mud slinger tires show up tomorrow and this is exactly what I needed to see. Thank you for the close angle and explaining why you do each step.
Glad I could help! Just take your time with it. Biggest issue is alignment, and the u shaped paper clip makes it super easy. Also, use blue locktite and don't overtighten...the screws are really weak.
@@BigSungHobbies Thank you for the advice on not over tightening the screws. I have the loctite, mip 1.5mm, a paper clip and will have your video playing in the background. This won't be as complicated as I previously thought. Thank you and I will load a video of testing out the wheels and tires once I get them put together and on a vehicle.
Thanks for the Sub. Much appreciate it. As @Gramps Ramblings comment below, make sure to add a drop of blue locktite on each screw...I forgot to mention it on the video.
I’m going to use that trick next time I take my heel part, great idea! The 1.9 steel wheels for 1/10 crawlers come with two extra long screws for ease in assembly.
I just bought some rc4wd stamped steel with rock creepers and your video saved me so much time, thank you! Now my question is : would you recommend to vent the tires? And would you run them with foams or no foams? Thanks again for taking the time to answer every comment 🙏
Glad to hear that the information helped out. This video should answer your specific question, but I normally vent all my tires. I ran without foams on the front and rc4wd stock foams on the rear. As the tires were breaking in, I noticed that it started to give in too much, so I ended up picking up Crawler Innovations mini foams, and used it on my C10 and I really like it. ruclips.net/video/NFqNTX3yEkQ/видео.html
Thanks for this haha. I saw 2 or 3 other videos where the guys were struggling with these wheels. I was going to buy this combo, but it seems I'm late to the party. The wheels are not available anywhere. Will get the tires for now though. Btw, you mentioned the issue of the wheels adding too much weight. On my C10 I will only add the brass diff cover and *maybe* the brass hex hubs cuz I dont like metal against plastic. Maybe since I wont have other weighted parts, that could help or the wheels are too heavy anyway?
The wheels will add 11g to each wheels for a total of 44g over stock tires and wheels. The issue is that it doesn’t help with weight distribution since the weight is being split in all four corners. I would recommend picking up HR brass knuckles. It’s the most effective weight adding 16g to the front while not adding rotational weight. Consider looking to MT Hobbies wheels. It’s really well made for 3d printed wheels and works really well plus the install is super simple. Good luck.
Unfortunately, I no longer have the RC4WD Stamped Steel beadlock wheels, but it's pretty straightforward. Find the two centered holes, and mark them lightly, and mark the wheel hub accordingly. Move the wheel hub and match the holes, and then install the paper clip to those two holes. The rest is basically the same.
@@thewooxer You can move the hub to the other side thus making the wheel deep dish. This will have the effect of widening the track width. If you do end up going this route, just make sure to mark the 2 holes that way you can easily align the holes. Other than moving the hub, there is no adjustment to offset.
@@BigSungHobbies Thanks for the explanation. So it will make them just stick out more but is there a way to tuck them in the wheel wells more? Make the track width more narrow? I'm aiming for more scale looks (wheels under fenders).
@@thewooxer I don’t believe so at least for RC4WD Stamped Steel beadlock wheels. There might be other beadlock wheels, but I am not aware of any. Most people want to extend the width for improved performance.
That’s a great idea!💡 I have a question? Would the rc4wd 1.0 stamped steel wheels fit their 1/24 trail finder? I would like to put bigger wheels and tires on it!
@@BigSungHobbies yesterday, I installed a brass difcover w/skidplate. Those parts are so small and it took some time. Servo works fine but, drive train seazed up. What do you think? Thanks!
@@johnlujan8706 Hard to tell. Check everything over. One thing, you don't want to tighten the wheel hex down too tight, and that can lead to binding, so I would check that first.
@@BigSungHobbies I had bad time getting the servo in correctly...spline came undone too. You're right about checking everything though. I'm not in a hurry to do that. Do you use any kind of magnification tool..like a jeweler might?
The tires are great and highly recommended especially for a C10 version of the SCX24, and maybe even for Jeep version. For Deadbolt, it will be on the small end, thus other options might be better. The tires are much softer and has much better grip than stock tires. As for the wheels, I am a little mixed on it, and let me explain. The wheels with RC4WD Rock Creeper weighs 44gram more than stock C10 tires/wheels, roughly 11grams more on each wheel. It's good to have weight down low to help with center of gravity, but it doesn't do anything to overall weight distribution, and it adds a bit too much weight to overall rig. Stock C10 weighs 230 grams. After the tires/wheels, the overall weight went up to 274 grams. That's roughly an additional 19% weight added to the rig, and that's before adding some necessary weight to move the weight distribution to front. Quality of the RC4WD Stamped Steel beadlock wheels are pretty good (out of the bag, there 2 screws that were already cross-threaded, but a bit of blue locktite solved that). So I am in search of beadlock wheels to bring the overall weight down. But my search continues.
@@BigSungHobbies you answered a question I wanted to ask about the weight of these wheels. However, I thought that heavier wheels (some that include brass inserts) are designed to help these vehicles crawl better, is that not the case? It sounds like these particular wheels might hurt performance and run time, is that accurate? Thanks!
@@wrxtc82 The answer is unfortunately not straight forward. Weight on wheels serves its purpose by lowering the center of gravity (CG); however, it adds rotational weight which adds strain to the drivetrain. On a 1/24 vehicle, adding ~45g is roughly 20% of overall weight. So the motor and drivetrain have to work a bit harder. That being said, most rigs need some added weight in order to achieve 60/40 weight distribution. And those weight that is being added should be down low by the axles and static weight over rotational weight. One of the reasons, why I recommend weight redistribution as the first step to assess how much added weight is needed. In most cases for SCX24, I find that adding brass knuckles and brass diff cover to front will get you very close to 60/40 (maybe just a bit shy). I would add those weight before adding rotational weight. Hope that helps.
@@BigSungHobbies i did 8 wheels and struggled with the first 4 before realizing the bolt patterns are not uniform and started to mark the inside of the wheels with a paint pen so i could tell how they were supposed to line up.
I have the grey C10. I ordered some foam for the tires. I hope getting the stock tires off of the stock wheels is not too much of a headache. What do you think?
I have had bad lucks with removing tires...another reason why I prefer beadlock wheels. I have tried the boiling method, heat gun and even oven method, but all of those were for 1/10 scale tires. So I never tried on the stock wheels. Hoping that they did not use too much CA glue on the tires. Let me know how it goes.
Hi Alex Janito, try pulling up on the paper clip with your thumb and forefinger, while at the same time use the rest of hand to push down on the wheels on a flat surface. It looks like RC4WD Rock Creeper wheels fit very easily on it, but I have heard there are some other tires that has a bit more difficulty. For those, also use soapy water on the beads, and that should help a bit as well. Good luck.
@@BigSungHobbies it ended up being that the inner lip on the tires was going too far into the center so it made it too thick to screw down but i got it. now it seems lopsided. I also didn't think about them sealing air. I want the squish from the soft tires so ill be drilling a hole in the barrel & backside ring. Ive called it quits for the night seeing that 1 wheel took me over an hour to get together
Hi... Thanks for this video. I'm stuck however. My wheels don't fit on darn hex adapter. I have brass ones and plastic ones, either don't fit. Any ideas?
I am not sure. I don’t use hex adapter on my SCX24s. Can you try without the hex adapter to see if the stock ones work? At least that way you can confirm if the issue is with wheels or not.
@@BigSungHobbies Sorry I'm a newb to the hobby. The issue I'm having with is at the hub level. Right where you mount the wheel to the chasis. The rc4wd hub will not fit properly.
@@jandjfunadventures7384 Hey welcome to the hobby! We all started at some point, so don't be too shy to ask question. Any issue is difficult to diagnose without being able to see what is going on. I recommend joining FB groups such as SCX24 Mods and Fun where you can post photo of the issue, and folks will be able to diagnose it better. Good luck.
@@BigSungHobbies thanks man that’s what I needed to hear I want to use them w a set of possible, I’m getting a set soon if they fit I’ll let you know n you can inform your viewers?
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Great idea with the paper clip, wish I'd thought of that would have saved me a lot of swearing!! Thanks for sharing
Thank you for your comment. At least next time, it will be easier.
I struggled with One wheel for over an hour before coming up with this exact method. Holy crap wish it would have been in non existent instructions. But it's part of the hobby to come up with solutions.😊 Now that little bent paperclip has it's own special place on my tool rail.
Same here. It makes the install so much easier.
I was so frustrated with these exact wheels till I saw this! Thanks!
Glad I could help!
Wow, this was an awesome 'how to' video. I just got my RC4WD 1.0" Beadlock Steel Wheels (Black) in the mail today and when I opened the package I realized there were no instructions anywhere. I am just a beginner and I am venturing into doing some mods on my CR-18 crawlers and my Panda Hobby Tetra x2 as well. I was going to call RC4WD to send me an instruction manual but I did something better... thank goodness I found your video! Thank you so much for this and now all I have to do is buy the right tools. 🤔
Glad to be of help. One thing that I forgot to mention on the video is to use a bit of blue locktite on the screws, and make sure to not overtighten the screws...very fragile.
RC4WD tires are one of the most effective upgrades and the stamped steel wheels are excellent. Superb explanation.
Thanks! 👍
That paper clip idea was genius. I watched a couple other videos before this one and saw it to be quite a complicated process but this just made it look super easy thanks to that paper clip. Thank you so much for the great video!
You're very welcome! Ran into it by chance, but it works really well, simple and cheap :)
My stamped wheels and mud slinger tires show up tomorrow and this is exactly what I needed to see. Thank you for the close angle and explaining why you do each step.
Glad I could help! Just take your time with it. Biggest issue is alignment, and the u shaped paper clip makes it super easy. Also, use blue locktite and don't overtighten...the screws are really weak.
@@BigSungHobbies Thank you for the advice on not over tightening the screws. I have the loctite, mip 1.5mm, a paper clip and will have your video playing in the background. This won't be as complicated as I previously thought. Thank you and I will load a video of testing out the wheels and tires once I get them put together and on a vehicle.
Small chance but is this the Andrew brown in Vancouver?
@@gagebenson7898 I live in Redding California but what's funny is my younger brother lives in Vancouver.
Probably a good idea to put a drop of thread lock on each screw
Yes, definitely! Thanks for the advice!
I will have to disassemble mine and do it this way as mine are not evenly installed and wobble a bit. Great video!
Glad it helped
You Sir are AWESOME when I upgrade my wheel I will definitely rewatch this video! Thanks
Thanks for the Sub. Much appreciate it. As @Gramps Ramblings comment below, make sure to add a drop of blue locktite on each screw...I forgot to mention it on the video.
Thanks man, really helpful video, I appreciate it
Glad to hear! Thanks for the comment.
I’m going to use that trick next time I take my heel part, great idea!
The 1.9 steel wheels for 1/10 crawlers come with two extra long screws for ease in assembly.
It works surprisingly well. Give it a try the next time.
Thank you so very much man!! 👍🙌💯💯💯💯
Glad to be of help.
Great idea .. thanks for sharing. This will save time when I start doing more 1/24 1.0" wheels & tires
Thanks for checking out the video! Glad to help!
I just bought some rc4wd stamped steel with rock creepers and your video saved me so much time, thank you! Now my question is : would you recommend to vent the tires? And would you run them with foams or no foams? Thanks again for taking the time to answer every comment 🙏
Glad to hear that the information helped out. This video should answer your specific question, but I normally vent all my tires. I ran without foams on the front and rc4wd stock foams on the rear. As the tires were breaking in, I noticed that it started to give in too much, so I ended up picking up Crawler Innovations mini foams, and used it on my C10 and I really like it. ruclips.net/video/NFqNTX3yEkQ/видео.html
@@BigSungHobbies thanks! Definitely going to watch the video!
You saved me a big headache thank u
Happy to help!
Paper Clip Genius!!!
Thank you! Simple but effective.
Nice video!
Thank you very much for checking out my video. Much appreciated!
Thanks for this haha. I saw 2 or 3 other videos where the guys were struggling with these wheels. I was going to buy this combo, but it seems I'm late to the party. The wheels are not available anywhere. Will get the tires for now though. Btw, you mentioned the issue of the wheels adding too much weight. On my C10 I will only add the brass diff cover and *maybe* the brass hex hubs cuz I dont like metal against plastic. Maybe since I wont have other weighted parts, that could help or the wheels are too heavy anyway?
The wheels will add 11g to each wheels for a total of 44g over stock tires and wheels. The issue is that it doesn’t help with weight distribution since the weight is being split in all four corners. I would recommend picking up HR brass knuckles. It’s the most effective weight adding 16g to the front while not adding rotational weight. Consider looking to MT Hobbies wheels. It’s really well made for 3d printed wheels and works really well plus the install is super simple. Good luck.
Did this with the long body pins off the Sumo 24th crawler.
Thanks for the info.
great video! can you show an explanation on doing them opposite to make them deepdish?
Unfortunately, I no longer have the RC4WD Stamped Steel beadlock wheels, but it's pretty straightforward. Find the two centered holes, and mark them lightly, and mark the wheel hub accordingly. Move the wheel hub and match the holes, and then install the paper clip to those two holes. The rest is basically the same.
How do you mean "make them deepish" ? Is there a way to make adjust the offset so they don't stick out so much??
@@thewooxer You can move the hub to the other side thus making the wheel deep dish. This will have the effect of widening the track width. If you do end up going this route, just make sure to mark the 2 holes that way you can easily align the holes. Other than moving the hub, there is no adjustment to offset.
@@BigSungHobbies Thanks for the explanation. So it will make them just stick out more but is there a way to tuck them in the wheel wells more? Make the track width more narrow? I'm aiming for more scale looks (wheels under fenders).
@@thewooxer I don’t believe so at least for RC4WD Stamped Steel beadlock wheels. There might be other beadlock wheels, but I am not aware of any. Most people want to extend the width for improved performance.
That’s a great idea!💡 I have a question? Would the rc4wd 1.0 stamped steel wheels fit their 1/24 trail finder? I would like to put bigger wheels and tires on it!
Thanks. Unfortunately it will not fit their 1/24 trail finder. The 1/24 trail finder use smaller 0.7mm wheels.
@@BigSungHobbies thanks 🙏
Great job bud!
Thanks!
Great information! Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
@@BigSungHobbies yesterday, I installed a brass difcover w/skidplate. Those parts are so small and it took some time. Servo works fine but, drive train seazed up. What do you think? Thanks!
@@johnlujan8706 Hard to tell. Check everything over. One thing, you don't want to tighten the wheel hex down too tight, and that can lead to binding, so I would check that first.
@@BigSungHobbies I had bad time getting the servo in correctly...spline came undone too. You're right about checking everything though. I'm not in a hurry to do that. Do you use any kind of magnification tool..like a jeweler might?
Nope, but working on the micro builds, I wish I had one especially as I get older, but eyesight is not what it used to be.
Why dose my tire spin around the wheel im so confused
That is very strange. It should not be spinning.
@@BigSungHobbies come to find out im stupid 😂 I figured it out
Glad to hear that you got it figure out.
I like this trick
It's simple, but works well.
Super Video, highly appreciated :-) Can you recommend this wheel/tire combination? Is it much better than stock?
The tires are great and highly recommended especially for a C10 version of the SCX24, and maybe even for Jeep version. For Deadbolt, it will be on the small end, thus other options might be better. The tires are much softer and has much better grip than stock tires. As for the wheels, I am a little mixed on it, and let me explain. The wheels with RC4WD Rock Creeper weighs 44gram more than stock C10 tires/wheels, roughly 11grams more on each wheel. It's good to have weight down low to help with center of gravity, but it doesn't do anything to overall weight distribution, and it adds a bit too much weight to overall rig. Stock C10 weighs 230 grams. After the tires/wheels, the overall weight went up to 274 grams. That's roughly an additional 19% weight added to the rig, and that's before adding some necessary weight to move the weight distribution to front. Quality of the RC4WD Stamped Steel beadlock wheels are pretty good (out of the bag, there 2 screws that were already cross-threaded, but a bit of blue locktite solved that). So I am in search of beadlock wheels to bring the overall weight down. But my search continues.
@@BigSungHobbies you answered a question I wanted to ask about the weight of these wheels. However, I thought that heavier wheels (some that include brass inserts) are designed to help these vehicles crawl better, is that not the case? It sounds like these particular wheels might hurt performance and run time, is that accurate? Thanks!
@@wrxtc82 The answer is unfortunately not straight forward. Weight on wheels serves its purpose by lowering the center of gravity (CG); however, it adds rotational weight which adds strain to the drivetrain. On a 1/24 vehicle, adding ~45g is roughly 20% of overall weight. So the motor and drivetrain have to work a bit harder. That being said, most rigs need some added weight in order to achieve 60/40 weight distribution. And those weight that is being added should be down low by the axles and static weight over rotational weight. One of the reasons, why I recommend weight redistribution as the first step to assess how much added weight is needed. In most cases for SCX24, I find that adding brass knuckles and brass diff cover to front will get you very close to 60/40 (maybe just a bit shy). I would add those weight before adding rotational weight. Hope that helps.
thank you soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much!!!
You are welcome. Glad to hear the information helped out.
Nice tip..
Thank you 🙏
Does anyone knows what size are the screws for these wheels?? Asking for a friend that lost some 😅 lol
Sorry, but I no longer have the wheels as I changed them out for treal wheels which are a bit more weighty.
Oh man i wish i watched this 2 days ago hahaha
Yeah, once you understand how it is supposed to be setup, I think it is pretty easy to install.
@@BigSungHobbies i did 8 wheels and struggled with the first 4 before realizing the bolt patterns are not uniform and started to mark the inside of the wheels with a paint pen so i could tell how they were supposed to line up.
Very similar to what I did.
I have the grey C10. I ordered some foam for the tires. I hope getting the stock tires off of the stock wheels is not too much of a headache. What do you think?
I have had bad lucks with removing tires...another reason why I prefer beadlock wheels. I have tried the boiling method, heat gun and even oven method, but all of those were for 1/10 scale tires. So I never tried on the stock wheels. Hoping that they did not use too much CA glue on the tires. Let me know how it goes.
RC4WD rubber is worth the cost. Try it.
@@peregrineflow7354 Yup, I am already running RC4WD Rock Creeper tires. Love that tire on my scx24.
I've heard these tires don't fit stock rims
@@artistman75 I have not tried it out so I can’t confirm neither yay or nay. The tires are a bit wider though.
For me it seems the beads are too thick or the screws are too short. Cant get em to go on
Hi Alex Janito, try pulling up on the paper clip with your thumb and forefinger, while at the same time use the rest of hand to push down on the wheels on a flat surface. It looks like RC4WD Rock Creeper wheels fit very easily on it, but I have heard there are some other tires that has a bit more difficulty. For those, also use soapy water on the beads, and that should help a bit as well. Good luck.
@@BigSungHobbies it ended up being that the inner lip on the tires was going too far into the center so it made it too thick to screw down but i got it. now it seems lopsided. I also didn't think about them sealing air. I want the squish from the soft tires so ill be drilling a hole in the barrel & backside ring. Ive called it quits for the night seeing that 1 wheel took me over an hour to get together
I usually vent the tires.
Hi... Thanks for this video. I'm stuck however. My wheels don't fit on darn hex adapter. I have brass ones and plastic ones, either don't fit. Any ideas?
I am not sure. I don’t use hex adapter on my SCX24s. Can you try without the hex adapter to see if the stock ones work? At least that way you can confirm if the issue is with wheels or not.
@@BigSungHobbies Sorry I'm a newb to the hobby. The issue I'm having with is at the hub level. Right where you mount the wheel to the chasis. The rc4wd hub will not fit properly.
@@jandjfunadventures7384 Hey welcome to the hobby! We all started at some point, so don't be too shy to ask question. Any issue is difficult to diagnose without being able to see what is going on. I recommend joining FB groups such as SCX24 Mods and Fun where you can post photo of the issue, and folks will be able to diagnose it better. Good luck.
Will these work with wheel weights?
I believe they do, but I didn’t find that I needed so I never installed them. Thus I am not 100% certain.
@@BigSungHobbies thanks man that’s what I needed to hear I want to use them w a set of possible, I’m getting a set soon if they fit I’ll let you know n you can inform your viewers?
Awesome. Let me know.
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Thanks!
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