"How can you not understand how powerful it is to see yourself represented in media?" "Well, I'm not a a narcisist, I received enough attention as a child and I don't need to be 'validated' 24/7 to stay sane".
Amy Hennig is the lady who wrote the early Uncharted games that were critically acclaimed and loved by many Playstation gamers. She didn't push any identity politics in the games but see how successful the games were and the respect she garnered.
Amy is an old lady, back in her day you EARNED your place, now "omg I have like a title like omg", Amy claimed through the ranks for being the best, now people are entitled and feel like they deserve a place in the organization for a degree while having an empty portfolio.
@@gimmeyourrights8292 On the years of peak wokeness (2019-2022) she was asked "is the industry sexist" and she answered "I don't think it is, you just gotta do your job right".
21:20 best part of this video is your reply, but put this in an easy digestible short clip, because it needs to appeal to the people who can't handle the longer form content but give them the info that is needed. 23:08 is also good information that could be added to the shot video if clipped in correctly. 25:56 end the short on this information. 28:31 or maybe end on this, because it makes the most sense in context of the overall video.
i agree with you 100%, it's when they start to inject these ideas into the AAA space to ruin them, especially since the majority audience is men, and straight men for that. they can have their indy games all they want, but i will never accept them in the AAA space no matter how many games these AAA studios try to inject them into the game, in fact i will actively reject and boycott that game 100% of the time because i like what i like and i won't be brow beat to change what i like. your AAA studio might as well go bankrupt on this idea, because i won't purchase your game if it has any of this nonsense injected in it, this is how i feel about Ubisoft, and it's not even about the latest controversy of yasuke, it's an industry wide thing Ubisoft have been doing for years now and frankly i'm sick and tired of it i would rather Ubisoft go bankrupt on this idea, but also because that studio is shit when they stated gamers should get comfortable with not owning their games they payed full price for, i say they can own nothing to make ME happy they went bankrupt on that idea.
I don't need representation, all I need is fun and addicting gameplay (and if story driven, a good story). I've played games where their isn't a single hispanic character and it never bothered me since I could careless about that, only caring that their fun to play.
Diablo 2 is one of my favorite games ever, my two favorite classes are obviously the Paladin and sorceress. I’m not a black man or a Hispanic chick, but it doesn’t bother me one bit to play as them. What makes them fun to play is how OP and kick ass they are at killing fucking demons
Representation is a pretty shallow concept because people relate more to personalities and experiences than they do appearance. I am not a giant talking turtle, but yet I relate to Michaelangelo because he's a fool with a heart of gold.
It's funny how these people completely forget aliens and fantasy sentient races. Then again, they just push onto them allegory a out waicism, like the orcs in LoTR (and DnD by extension)
J: "She talks to us like we're kindergardeners" Me: "Yup, because she's either naive and kind but pities us "underprivileged". God, I can't stand people who talk to people like elementary school teachers.
dude ive been gaming for fugging 32 years and most of the main characters were men and not once did i feel unrepresented or anything like that. if the character is good and the story is good, it doesn't fugging MATTER! ffs there are video games where you're not even HUMAN and im still fine with that! everyone needing to be in everything all the time is so fugging annoying. its like that annoying little sibling or neighbor kid who wont stfu and keeps asking to play with you and you tell your mom you dont want to but shes like "HE DOESNT HAVE FRIENDS SO PLAY WITH HIM!" and you just wanna retire from living. everyone doesn't have to be in everything for it to be good. we dont need a powerful female character in every game or movie or god damn tv show! we dont need a male main character, we dont need black characters or white ones or an all white cast or an all black cast. what we NEED is GOOD CHARACTERS AND GOOD STORIES AND THEN YOU HIRE THE BEST ACTOR FOR THAT GOD DAMN PART! WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND! oh right its because everyone today is a god damn narcissist and if they dont see themselves in everything they do, they want nothing to do with it. thats immature thinking at it's finest.
I like playing with girls, as a man, only because I get tired of hearing manly grunts all the time. 😂 These people aren't like us. They're not really gamers. They're tourist
Worst part is they always focus on superficial traits and stereotypes like they don't understand that you can share a trait with someone yet be wildly different in the content of your person
I don't get "representation". People are represented by their representatives in systems of government. A game is a work of art, not a representative system. Would you demand to have all paintings altered to be portraits of yourself? It makes no sense. A story is about one or more characters, created by the author. A story is not about the reader (unless it is a choose your own adventure).
The thing about most women trying to come into men’s spaces is that women in general wants the story/character to relate to them and as men we want characters to strive to be like. But I don’t not see a problem with a person making their own ip. Edit: when she said men make games off there experience no that’s not how that works most of the time when I design a character it’s based off of a concept. It may have some of my personality very minimal cause I made the character but other than that if I make a girl she’s not going to be masculine and vice versa.
Fax!! if I were to design a character it wouldn't be based on my own experience either. I would create an man who is ideal. I never really cared much for relatability. I'm only interested in the cool factor.
Fellas, you do understand that you should never have to explain this in a space full of men. We get how we work and the variety we have. Women have none of that, it's why they stand out so much just by opening their mouths. We're different in so many way. Women can't do anything if it doesn't stroke their ego. That's why too many of them could never make a game enjoyed by many. They don't like putting others before themselves This is why gaming will always be for us, made by us, with our ideas. Unless a female is TRAINED to understand us. They never can. Remember Amy Hennig. The Director of the LOK saga and Uncharted. She was TRAINED to understand men. Women like here are a plus to male gaming. But women like her also don't exist anymore..
Exactly!!! Even when a man create a male character that is based on themselves, more often than not, they will create an IDEALIZED version of themselves, not a 1 to 1 recreation.
Does remember an old article where a female CEO hired only women for her media news company but she went bankrupt because there was constant drama between her and her female co workers?
Reminds how Kotaku. Was upset cuz people didn’t want to fund : or buy a drag fighting game . Blaming homophobia sexism racism in industry . When the truth is the majority of fighting Gamers don’t care about drag
I don't want to see myself represented in video games. My life is boring and mundane. I also don't want to be HER in a video game. I want to be the MONKE King. I want to be Amaterasu, the wolf god. I want to be Leon in RE. I want to be Kratos, Master Chief, or Goku. Because, video games are a form of escapism. What she's talking about is also readily available on platforms like STEAM. Anyone can make an indie game. There's games that are made by one guy living in his basement.
Video games companies did representation better when they weren't even trying. Two good examples from the 7th generation were Starhawk on ps3, where you play as a black space prospector and AVP 2010, where you can tell you character has dark skin but it's not revealed until the end cutscene that the player character is a black guy. Nowadays diversity and representation seems too artificial and performative.
Or in the 80s when you played Metroid, you never knew that Samus was a woman and when it was revealed to you it was a surprise but her gender didn't matter because you liked her as a character.
Yup just like in your response to the gaming masculinity vid you've pretty much perfectly encapsulated how and why these tactics used on the normal majority is working better than I ever could and you did especially well with your perspective at 26:06 because not only did it give perfect examples on how these people who force others on trying represent or making certain individuals feel seen by being seen are really hypocritical snd discriminatory themselves despite trying to be the opposite but it also ends up becoming summed up in one simple action which is being condescending which as we know from the other videos is something the hive mind of (mostly) female activists are really good at which confirms how and why dudes and nerds in general should be protected from being pressured by people like this lady idealistic driven individuals that use other loud or violent or manipulative tactics to include everyone which means including no one and excluding the people who don't care which is the CORRECT way of thinking and how that GOAT Jesus taught me to live life. Sorry didn't mean to type that much guess i was just excited to respond to your new vid and show support. I was tempted to go to her vid and recommend your response comment section. I was gonna something like "nah dude it's cool when representation happens like with that horror game still wakes the deep but when it's clearly made priority and the skin color or the sexuality or the culture is brought to attention or if a character is changed to be inclusive despite it just meaning excluding straight or white people or putting in rap music for people with a certain skin color it just comes off as profiling and condescending. I never needed to share the exact skin tone to relate my childhood hero Batman or cyborg from teen titans or Hellboy or Nathan Drake or Grant from Jurassic Park which is a franchise that I'm only now realizing had people of all colors because I never cared i cared about the characters despite what they looked like or what culture or ethic background they came from. Although JT put into even better words with a perfect response video so I recommend checking that out for straight facts on how much representing others matter. but I wouldn't want that vid to get more attention but I also think it's important to respond with how ya feel and following in JT's footsteps to just speak common sense and straight facts as we need more of that.
J my dude, I've only recently found you, but your common sense and logic is so strong that you are literally speaking for the vast majority of gamers. You're on your way up my dude. Stay positive, more importantly stay REAL.
25:00 I could not disagree more with that if I tried. I have a minor graphic design background, nothing crazy but I studied it a bit in school then continued on my own namely focusing on video editing that I used for a separate channel years ago. I'm black and just about every person I learned anything from was a white man. I didn't need to see myself in my teachers or tutorial makers on youtube, what mattered to me was I got the information and learned how to complete the task. I understood from the moment I started learning that it would be dominated by white people and it didn't matter to me at all. I wanted to learn so I spoke to the people who could teach me. Also I'm learning Spanish. I learn from native speakers, now I could find black people who are native speakers I run into them regularly but I'm around the brown ones more often, they are way easier to find, and there are way more of them than the black ones. They teach me so I learn from them. I don't need to see a reflection of myself to learn a language. This mindset is so goofy lmao.
Everyone has different tastes there's nothing wrong with having different communities that are separated from each other but cater to different people. It's perfectly fine for someone in one community to come and hang out with another that's perfectly fine. But what modern media is trying to do is to smash these separate communities together and force them to play along. All your going to do is anger both parties and eventually after everyone is done fighting each other they'll begin to turn on the people who forced them to try to get along in the first place and that I think is what's happening now.
As long as the skin color, religion, sexuality or whatever is not the focal point of the game or character im fine. But when it starts preaching to me then they lose me as a player.
@@GeromeSmith-me9im also, the focal point of AC tends to be the story of assassins vs templars in a recreated piece of history. That's a key point. This is the first time that we not only play an existent historical figure, but one that isn't originally from there as well Ofc yhe japs would reject this. They wanted a japanese assassin in Japan ffs.
nah, bring it over, just dont get mad at me when I am not playing with it, and dont tell the toymaker we need G.I. Joe in a dress when obviously neither me or you are gonna play with it.
She's the type of person who would cry and whine if she travels to another homogenous country where there is lack of multiculturalism. She would lecture the locals there about bringing in more migrants to make their country like California.
I really appreciate you breaking down the space of gaming. It’s true I think keeping in mind your going into a space and there is going to lingo or even habits your gonna see. I played league and anybody knows it’s toxic.
Her very opening makes it obvious she's in for the story and characters in general, regardless of the medium. It's clear she doesn't have a a game that she just sits down and plays by herself or to spend time with friends.
If a video game came out and ended up being amazing, and THEN we found out it was made by a 4 purely female dev team, they would be CELEBRATED immensely for their accomplishments. Instead, they put the need for sexual identity FIRST, and then proceed to not have the skill or knowledge to make a game anyone wants or asked for 🤦♂️🤷🏼♂️
I have no doubt the girl means well. I definitely agree with her on a few things. But her point that men can’t tell stories that appeal to women is quite frankly false. Korean dramas are mostly written by men and they are target Korean women and are mostly watched by Korean women. Trust me I know I am obsessed with Romance dramas as most Korean women are lol Sweet girl seems like all in all. But I 100% agree with if as women want more games that appeal to us we should take incentive to make our own
You have no doubt she means well. How does she mean well when she has no idea about the art. It's like men complaining that period pads aren't being made for them. Video games and movies aren't the same. You can waste 1hr or 2 showing women in their ditzy ways. But you can't do that over the course of 30/40hrs. Women aren't interesting like that, they don't have the bodies to be played about with like that. Men like action and interaction with the avatar. Women don't! There's too much of a gap with men and women when it comes to games. We created the art for other men. Women have tagged along and still don't understand it's not about them, for them That's why we leave gay men to write movies and TV shows for women. GAY MEN. Not normal straight men. Normal men naturally share with other normal men. It's why the gaming industry has survived for so long. Men fund other men with money and ideas..
I bet she's arrogant enough to think that women can tell stories that appeal to men. Fact is media that appeals to both men and women tend to be made by men and media made by women tends to only appeal to women.
At the beginning of the video, it sounded like she was talking about Cultivation Theory. Dirty version: The media you consume=the person you are, the principals you have, etc. This is often baked into the "you must be critical of the media you consume" and "fictional people are real people" crowd. This dev was on Twitter touting about how her game had "no white male people in my game lol". And it's no surprise she comes from Montreal where a lot of the woke shit is coming. She's a good example of "toxic positivity". I don't want to be represented! I want good games! 😭
She should attend comicons. How many black guys cosplay as the people of Hidden Cloud Village in naruto because they are also black? Mostly none. But everyone cosplay as naruto and other main characters. I"m naruto, james bond, kratos, etc. How many white guys say they are agent K in men in black because he is white? None, they consider themselves as agent J, a black character who is funny and charismatic.
No, representation is not 1000% needed in indie games, gameplay, story, giving the fans what they want and good ideas that dont destroy your buisness and reputation is more important than forcing in toxic messages at the detriment of everything else for the sake of a pointless goal that you will never achieve, for example, wanting to be inclusive towards other groups of people by actively alienating other groups of people in the process like attractive women out of plain disingenuousness, ignorance, disrespect, dishonesty and actual misogyny etc for example
well you don't want to use their terms, but i agree that they should stay the hell out of the games that already have their demographic audience, they need to stop trying to inject their shit in our games and make their own shit somewhere else. and any AAA studio who bends the knee on this nonsense deserves to go bankrupt on this idea and i will cheer them on that path if they choose to do so. these AAA studios we don't need or want in our gaming space, "know your audience" les be forced to know the pain you inflict on them to yourself and your future in this business with the choices you make.
She's not a nice person. She's one of those people who would go crazy when things don't go their way. Women like this do look down on people because they got given power they didn't earn. Also, these games, especially indie games suck on kick starter.(I'm beta tester has to test these games)
My brother in Christ, she's Canadian, her game will totally fumble, and then Jeremy Trudeau will ship her abroad to be the HR and inclusivity commissar in other people's projects. You're smart, you know that there is a big future for this one failing onwards and upwards.
I can tell you why they don't stay in their lane. A lot of these developers aren't interested in making games, at least it's not their primary reason. A lot of them are narcissists, and their real target is fame and recognition, and there seems to be more of it on our side of the fence, and in their narcissitic mind, they already deserve all that fame and recognition (remember, we're dealing with narcissists) so they feel justified and injecting their message on our side of the fence.
Representation is nice when it happens. Like my Crimson Fists who are space Latinos. I don't like the Crimson Fists because they're space Latinos. I love them because I love Pedro Kantor, I love thier colors, the deep blue with the crimson Fist and Silver Accents. I love the fact that they were on the cover of 1st edition warhammer 40k back in 1987. The fact that the Crimson Fists are space Latinos is just icing on the cake of a really underrated space marine chapter.
This feels like a bell curve meme, like she's impervious to allegory "WOW u guys, if I hadn't played this game about an Indian family moving to Canada, I wouldn't know what it feels like to be foreign in Canada and selling food, now all other minority and foreign groups should make a game of the same experience so I can learn it too".
In a perfect world everyone is chill like the Animal Crossing, Doom Eternal community, the problem with the diversity/DEI mafia is that they act like an invasive species that threatens to chokes the life out of the gaming ecosystem to force it to cater to them exclusively ironically killing off actual diversity which is why all woke games follow the same patterns in design.
@@Kejmur yeah but also people get more forgiving over stuff that wouldn't fly in other games. If I see you make your female characters men, I'm out, don't care about your budget or artistic view.
She starts by listing the intro talking points of Literature 101. Sounds like a college grad that believes they left university with 1000 years of wisdom not realizing that school just gets you from Level 1 to Level 3 at best, in a world where Level 100 exists.
I grew up in a LA hood and growing up, never once did I feel not represented. What I'm getting at is 99.9% of the time, I'm going to identify with a character that's has similar experiences, morals, and values as myself regardless of their skin color or gender. Two of my favorite games (Resident Evil and Tomb Raider) growing up have women leads. I'm more than my race or skin color. "Star Wars" universe is mostly all white but the fandoms spans across the world without needing to be "all inclusive". That's because people from all walks of life can relate to it. Rant over! J, how do you not have more subs? You're funny as hell and on point on your takes. Keep it up, brotha! You're going to hit 100k quickly.
There are successful games that happen to feature some more niche, esoteric ideas, but they typically feature gameplay that appeals to a wider playerbase. First that come to mind are American McGee's Wonderland duology _Alice_ & _Alice: Madness Returns_ ; those are some weird-ass games that are super fun to play! And that's the operative factor: "fun to play". They may be trippy, but they are first-and-foremost games, not acid trips. That's how we've gotten genuine diversity of thought in approaching game development as an art-form: players can totally warm up to the freak if it's packaged well. A big problem with gaming nowadays from indie-level all the way up to AAA is that they slap-dash all this bullshit ideology until it's bursting at the seams, and then refuse to even polish it off. They will not compromise for the sake of mechanics, because what should be an interactive experience for us is to them merely a linear vehicle for the message. So we get all the freak with none of the fun!
No More Heroes is another game with a completely fucked up concept, and story but the gameplay is addictive. The game isn't ashamed of how balls to the walls it is, and actually embraces it. You fight a singing gunslinger in a baseball stadium in one part of the game. I think a game should totally commit to it's weird ass ideas, as long as said ideas are fun to explore.
Im gamedev. And i think the expectation of adding characters to max out DEI type of qoutas is just plain tyranny. I prefer people pressure me into making good games instead.
Also she thinks a studio full of women is something to be proud of?? No. When I ask about the studio, I'm looking for how competent your people are. Not the binary they fall in.
Representation is not 1000% needed in indie games. What is needed is innovative, great gameplay, story & plenty of content.The excessive focus on representation results in pandering & virtue signaling. Both things people hate including myself as well. Simple, make a great game & don't force DEI, ESG, Diversity or representation in them. Its always disingenous when they do that.
Fax I can't stand those types of devs they just want to shove their garbage ideology down our throats like bro leave us alone we just want to play some games, not get indoctrinated 💯
I agree 1000% with this video, diversity really needs to stay away from AAA titles with already established communities, but I do agree diversity needs to stay with Indie Games, if the ladies want to create their own games they should establish their own Studios to create games that they know women would like I agree and it's the same with other minorities, just don't mess with the titles that are already having a huge fan base.
You know, i can't believe I am actually going to fucking say this. You are the most reasonable person I have seen, and you give reasonable analogies that make me agree with you and disagree with the left point of view and how they are deeply misguided by that kind of mindset they have. I agree their heart is in the right spot, but trying to fit and mold everyone to their worldview and mindset is dangerous and rubs the wrong way. Thank you for being the voice of reason in this polarizing time. I much respect you.
(Disclaimer: I know exceptions exist everywhere, and not everybody get documented) I like to find out who is making the entertainment that touches our souls, makes us feel every emotion when well-done. I'm an infinitely curious person when it comes to literally everything. So, I want to know the origin of why people got into spaces that gave us such interesting characters/moments/visuals/music to go with it... Lo and behold, I found a lack of women. Even on RUclips for such entertainment. The women who did well in those fields matter, always. But I got curious about the lack of women, even in indie areas that are not simply Drama/Comedy/Topical, but more so Action/Sci-Fi/Horror, beyond acting/make-up, but crafting stories. It's not simply, "Man thing, woman thing, oogah chaka". I want an actual psychological/neurological study. What I gathered for about 5 years of looking into this, when done well, it really comes down to males caring about other people's mental well-being more than females and expressing it through making sure what they produce, when done well, without staying in a lane, writing *any* genre is done with intense yet simple detail. Hence, the women hired to write/direct/showrun franchise adaptations nearly always do not do that and have the most mind-boggling character aspects, even if approved by higher-ups (unconscious man in WW84, Nick Fury's eye scratch, She-Hulk's main villain, Melina Vostokoff not being Natasha's nemesis unlike male villains who are always adapted to be the lead's nemesis, how Antonia Dreykov was handled whether a Taskmaster or not, Flerken evac scene, Batwoman's "when it fits a woman", Acolyte, etc. these mess up rewatchability). The women, let alone non-European/non-East Asian descent people, being less common in that space, as mentioned in this video, tends to be seen as, "We don't want you here, Grr argh!". Maybe mostly way back in the day, but not in the past few decades. But due to pioneers like Madame C.J. Walker becoming the first self-made millionaire as a woman of non-Euro-descent, especially being Afro-descent, CEO for a business based on products for African hair in the 19freaking30s shows that, today, most of the lack of females in emotion-tugging/exhilarating entertainment are due to them not caring nearly as much about making others feel good mentally. May sound crazy, but I had to realize all this myself by even looking at the most extravagant, stunning, fun art styles for character designs/landscapes/machinery/surreal, etc. It has been mostly males from outside the U.S.A. who do the most/the best. Nothing is stopping more females than we have from doing the same even nearly as much as the males.
Listen, I am sensitive as feck and cry SOOOO easily. I take things to heart when I know I shouldn't. I've gotten better over the years, of course, but I'm still quite sensitive. Even I think these people are nuts.
Ugh, ikr!? Don't get me wrong, there are some fun games that fit the description; Sims, Minecraft, plenty of those sandbox/simulator types, but these days it usually just boils down to some super casual mobile-game-ass lookin'-ass shit. It's also funny how she prefers more narrative-driven experiences (as if shooters aren't capable of having amazing stories?) when many of these indie slops have some of the most threadbare excuses for "plots" that I've ever seen!
Make entertainment that you personally enjoy, and people like you will also enjoy it. But don’t push your niche ideas down everyone’s throats. Don’t force an audience that clearly doesn’t want what you’re selling, and then call them bigots for not liking it. AAA games are meant for the majority. The majority want COD *not* Concord.
I disagree that stuff that caters to women cannot be popular, it absolutely is. Every JRPG, Sims or even Genshin Impact are super popular. There is a tone of cozy games nowadays that women who prefer casual gameplay can play as well. It is very wrong to look at people only through lenses of stereotypes. I agree with everything else you say though. You want something for yourself - create it/find it on Steam, but don't inject or censor existing properties. This is what turns people on each other.
Gameplay is king, it's why they are called video GAMES and not video books. Yeah, they have a story but the story is part of the gameplay, it's an interactive medium.
@@gimmeyourrights8292 Yep. I've always maintained that games need a _scenario_ as a minimum to get people invested in the gameplay ("you're an elite agent breaking into a heavily guarded fortress to photograph/destroy an experimental weapon", "you're a martial arts master entering into a underground tournament of deadly assassins to prove your superiority and be crowned champion", etc. etc.). Any "story" beyond that is a luxury, but the priority should _always_ be focused on the top-notch gameplay.
Honestly such a tired and extremely pointless discussion "We need more girls to make games!" or go into STEM and other such. If they want to, no one's bloody stopping them! And if they don't want to, what do they propose? Force them at gunpoint? That sounds like a bad idea. Also no idea if this is any consolation but in CoD lobbies and similar, I also got called the N-Word even though I neither am nor sound black, lmao
The only boxes that need to be checked is Talent Capability Drive And Passion. All this BS about inclusion IS DOO DOO! The only person that need to be included in a working environment is qualified creator. It’s was a time when we knew this as fact 🤔.
😂😂😂😂 J, what's up brother. I love your channel, man. You are not taking no shit. I love it. Representation is a farce. Their version of it because its ingenuine. Its filked with archetypes that doesn't match the audience they are trying to emulate. Not every Black man is gay
Narcissist who can’t put herself in other people’s shoes assumes everybody else is the same way. I’m sure she has good, if sheltered and naive intentions, but the road to AAA game Hell is paved with those.
I'm perfectly fine with cutsy games existing. Some of them I like myself. Some of the most fun I had with a co-op game was yelling at my best friend for not cutting enough onions in Overcooked.
The young lady is quite adorable, she reminds me of lucy from Fallout tv show, but she might be a little bit more naive. I hope her kickstarter does well, even though it's not really my jam. was it just me or was that lady just too blinding, like her personality was so bubbly and happy it was hard to look at.😎
That is a game that I will not play... Also is it not ... Let's say discriminatory that a studio of four women who make a game "for women" make a kitchen game.
It also looks like a rip-off of an already pre-established game series called Cooking Mama if you want an actual good game made by a studio play Cooking Mama if you want. It's pretty good.
I have no idea how these indie devs afford to make games that don't sell. It's like they have money, and they make garbage games just for fun or just to say that they are game devs. Not to mention the woke message. I'm not talking about the talented devs who are genuinely passionate about games but certain studios that must spend way more than they earn. Is it because of ESG money?!
I don't care who makes my games as long as they are good. If you want to make games catering to some kind of niche go ahead no problem, however don't expect me to stay still if you hijack my games that contain characters like Bunny or Valby and turn them into Concord characters, then you declare war on me and most of the Playerbase.
She had my good will until 23:18 where she rapidly went off the rails and ended in an explosion of BS at 24:45. She is definitely one of those people who will invent something to be offended about, when there is literally nothing.
To find meaning in life? Wtf is she talking lol we play video games as an escapism from real life bc real life can be trash alot of the time not to "find meaning in life" 😅🤣🤣😭😭😭
" I need more meaning in life maybe I should play video games 😯💡😅🤣🤣 " also as long as it's not nexon activision or EA making a game I pretty much don't care who makes it I agree that as long as it's good that's all that matters there has been alot of trash games over the past few years anyway
FORCED Representation is stupid, know your audience. if you making game to apeal to "Modern audience" fine but don't be surprised when say the other Audience "real gamers" don't support you.
If i had to be around her for a whole day it would annoy the piss out of me. But great video as always as this is the main problem nowadays, just stay in your sandbox we'll stay in ours.
It's not needed anywhere, representation and DEI in general are the cause of the entertainment industry going bankrupt. There is no room for creativity and originality, only for products in which you have to check boxes.
This woman comes across as extremely patronizing and doesn't understand the gaming audience. Minority or not, gaming is an interactive entertainment medium, it's not a passive one. Which means that people playing games want to have fun first and foremost. Any developer who focuses on the representational experience over the fun will always make a bad game. It may be a work of art (to them) but it's still a bad game. Then her mentioning doing an all-female indie developer gaming studio? She just basically admitted to breaking the law via discrimination over sex. It's illegal to discriminate against sex, religious beliefs, orientation or race when hiring. She basically comes across as someone who drank the kool-aid about diversity in college and is trying to justify her beliefs now in an industry that doesn't give two craps about it during a time when the culture is rapidly changing as the pendulum is starting to swing to the right. EDIT: There is space for games and stories made to show off the diverse stories that they want to tell, but the problem is they took the "there is room in this space for all stories" to be "all stories have to have these themes and content". Which is not true at all.
These people are insufferable. Just little bundles of joy, so aware and respectful of people. She doesn't come off as disingenuous or anything. Not a surprise shes from Canada
When she talked about that game about the Indian family and their experiences through food it made me realize another critical point about the current woke structure of stories: they aren't new or interesting experiences. The characters are either always victims of circumstance and its out of their control or they are super powerful and the best and their identity is what gives them all that power. There's nothing else in terms of story lines when it comes to woke.
It would be interesting to see her Steam library, something tells me no one will have problems with diversity in 95% of games she got there. And we going back to the good old truth - not every game is for everyone, I dont play souls-likes and I dont cry about it, dont demand them to change souls just for me, its just not my genre, so what? Its not good or bad by itself, its just is. I also dont like lets say football game, not enough strategy, not enough explosions and other VFX, not enough story and RPG mechanics... now imagine what football(soccer or American, doesnt actually matter) gonna look like if its made for me.
i fucking hate, when people with no idea about the actuall game dev try to lecture others. she's not a devoloper or an artist. she's a social media 'expert". she does not work on a game, she just posts videos about their studio -.-
"How can you not understand how powerful it is to see yourself represented in media?"
"Well, I'm not a a narcisist, I received enough attention as a child and I don't need to be 'validated' 24/7 to stay sane".
I came for fun, gameplay and story if I wanna represent myself so much, I will play the sims
My fav character in fiction is Kenshiro from Fotns but I am by no means a 6 foot tall jacked asian man.
In fact Im embarrassed seeing myself represented like I dun wan all those attentions shoving everywhere and coming to me.
a a narcisist!
We don't care if ur male or female, just make a darn good game that a lot of us can genuinely enjoy.
Amy Hennig is the lady who wrote the early Uncharted games that were critically acclaimed and loved by many Playstation gamers. She didn't push any identity politics in the games but see how successful the games were and the respect she garnered.
Agreed and they are goated. There’s a reason U2 is ND’s magnum opus. I just hope they don’t try to push the woke agenda on her with her new game.
She also wrote for Soul Reaver games which have probably my favorite story told in the best way in a game
Amy is an old lady, back in her day you EARNED your place, now "omg I have like a title like omg", Amy claimed through the ranks for being the best, now people are entitled and feel like they deserve a place in the organization for a degree while having an empty portfolio.
So why does she hold these beliefs now?
@@gimmeyourrights8292 On the years of peak wokeness (2019-2022) she was asked "is the industry sexist" and she answered "I don't think it is, you just gotta do your job right".
She’s a nice person but extremely misguided lol. She just needs to stay on her side of the fence lol 😂
She needs some Dicken's cider 😂.
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Facts lmao don’t woke up the things we care about 😂
21:20 best part of this video is your reply, but put this in an easy digestible short clip, because it needs to appeal to the people who can't handle the longer form content but give them the info that is needed.
23:08 is also good information that could be added to the shot video if clipped in correctly.
25:56 end the short on this information.
28:31 or maybe end on this, because it makes the most sense in context of the overall video.
i agree with you 100%, it's when they start to inject these ideas into the AAA space to ruin them, especially since the majority audience is men, and straight men for that.
they can have their indy games all they want, but i will never accept them in the AAA space no matter how many games these AAA studios try to inject them into the game, in fact i will actively reject and boycott that game 100% of the time because i like what i like and i won't be brow beat to change what i like.
your AAA studio might as well go bankrupt on this idea, because i won't purchase your game if it has any of this nonsense injected in it, this is how i feel about Ubisoft, and it's not even about the latest controversy of yasuke, it's an industry wide thing Ubisoft have been doing for years now and frankly i'm sick and tired of it i would rather Ubisoft go bankrupt on this idea, but also because that studio is shit when they stated gamers should get comfortable with not owning their games they payed full price for, i say they can own nothing to make ME happy they went bankrupt on that idea.
I don't need representation, all I need is fun and addicting gameplay (and if story driven, a good story). I've played games where their isn't a single hispanic character and it never bothered me since I could careless about that, only caring that their fun to play.
@@guardian7106 same here
Me three.
Me Four
You, me, and a ton of other gamers.
Diablo 2 is one of my favorite games ever, my two favorite classes are obviously the Paladin and sorceress. I’m not a black man or a Hispanic chick, but it doesn’t bother me one bit to play as them. What makes them fun to play is how OP and kick ass they are at killing fucking demons
It’s like when your girlfriend moves in and changes your shit. Sometimes it’s good sometimes it’s bad.
Most of the times, it was bad.
she throws your video games away or sells them, yeah dump that b$%^& on the curb lol, but i'm serous she's not worth your time at that point.
Nah dawg it's never good...
9 out 10 times the fix is a downgrade
@@elcucuy4080 never let her change your shit, just give her a space so she can fuck it up without damaging your shit lol
Representation is a pretty shallow concept because people relate more to personalities and experiences than they do appearance. I am not a giant talking turtle, but yet I relate to Michaelangelo because he's a fool with a heart of gold.
"Michelangelo is a Party Dude."
@@dreadnaught2448 Cowabunga dude!
It's funny how these people completely forget aliens and fantasy sentient races.
Then again, they just push onto them allegory a out waicism, like the orcs in LoTR (and DnD by extension)
J: "She talks to us like we're kindergardeners"
Me: "Yup, because she's either naive and kind but pities us "underprivileged". God, I can't stand people who talk to people like elementary school teachers.
dude ive been gaming for fugging 32 years and most of the main characters were men and not once did i feel unrepresented or anything like that. if the character is good and the story is good, it doesn't fugging MATTER!
ffs there are video games where you're not even HUMAN and im still fine with that! everyone needing to be in everything all the time is so fugging annoying. its like that annoying little sibling or neighbor kid who wont stfu and keeps asking to play with you and you tell your mom you dont want to but shes like "HE DOESNT HAVE FRIENDS SO PLAY WITH HIM!" and you just wanna retire from living. everyone doesn't have to be in everything for it to be good. we dont need a powerful female character in every game or movie or god damn tv show! we dont need a male main character, we dont need black characters or white ones or an all white cast or an all black cast. what we NEED is GOOD CHARACTERS AND GOOD STORIES AND THEN YOU HIRE THE BEST ACTOR FOR THAT GOD DAMN PART! WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!
oh right its because everyone today is a god damn narcissist and if they dont see themselves in everything they do, they want nothing to do with it. thats immature thinking at it's finest.
I like playing with girls, as a man, only because I get tired of hearing manly grunts all the time. 😂 These people aren't like us. They're not really gamers. They're tourist
Nothing but facts!
Worst part is they always focus on superficial traits and stereotypes like they don't understand that you can share a trait with someone yet be wildly different in the content of your person
I don't get "representation". People are represented by their representatives in systems of government. A game is a work of art, not a representative system. Would you demand to have all paintings altered to be portraits of yourself? It makes no sense.
A story is about one or more characters, created by the author. A story is not about the reader (unless it is a choose your own adventure).
The thing about most women trying to come into men’s spaces is that women in general wants the story/character to relate to them and as men we want characters to strive to be like. But I don’t not see a problem with a person making their own ip.
Edit: when she said men make games off there experience no that’s not how that works most of the time when I design a character it’s based off of a concept. It may have some of my personality very minimal cause I made the character but other than that if I make a girl she’s not going to be masculine and vice versa.
Fax!! if I were to design a character it wouldn't be based on my own experience either. I would create an man who is ideal. I never really cared much for relatability. I'm only interested in the cool factor.
Fellas, you do understand that you should never have to explain this in a space full of men. We get how we work and the variety we have. Women have none of that, it's why they stand out so much just by opening their mouths. We're different in so many way. Women can't do anything if it doesn't stroke their ego. That's why too many of them could never make a game enjoyed by many. They don't like putting others before themselves
This is why gaming will always be for us, made by us, with our ideas. Unless a female is TRAINED to understand us. They never can.
Remember Amy Hennig. The Director of the LOK saga and Uncharted. She was TRAINED to understand men. Women like here are a plus to male gaming. But women like her also don't exist anymore..
Exactly!!! Even when a man create a male character that is based on themselves, more often than not, they will create an IDEALIZED version of themselves, not a 1 to 1 recreation.
Does remember an old article where a female CEO hired only women for her media news company but she went bankrupt because there was constant drama between her and her female co workers?
@@kumikoloh9190 Yup. I remember.
We all know representation is gay.
We make it BLACK, make it GAY and make it LAAMME!
Reminds how Kotaku. Was upset cuz people didn’t want to fund : or buy a drag fighting game . Blaming homophobia sexism racism in industry . When the truth is the majority of fighting Gamers don’t care about drag
@@TheNrat the market always wins and is always honest. They just can’t handle the truth lol
also I'm not going to buy pedophile propaganda, i don't care if it's the best game ever made
I don't want to see myself represented in video games. My life is boring and mundane. I also don't want to be HER in a video game. I want to be the MONKE King. I want to be Amaterasu, the wolf god. I want to be Leon in RE. I want to be Kratos, Master Chief, or Goku.
Because, video games are a form of escapism.
What she's talking about is also readily available on platforms like STEAM. Anyone can make an indie game. There's games that are made by one guy living in his basement.
Video games companies did representation better when they weren't even trying. Two good examples from the 7th generation were Starhawk on ps3, where you play as a black space prospector and AVP 2010, where you can tell you character has dark skin but it's not revealed until the end cutscene that the player character is a black guy. Nowadays diversity and representation seems too artificial and performative.
Or in the 80s when you played Metroid, you never knew that Samus was a woman and when it was revealed to you it was a surprise but her gender didn't matter because you liked her as a character.
Yup just like in your response to the gaming masculinity vid you've pretty much perfectly encapsulated how and why these tactics used on the normal majority is working better than I ever could and you did especially well with your perspective at 26:06 because not only did it give perfect examples on how these people who force others on trying represent or making certain individuals feel seen by being seen are really hypocritical snd discriminatory themselves despite trying to be the opposite but it also ends up becoming summed up in one simple action which is being condescending which as we know from the other videos is something the hive mind of (mostly) female activists are really good at which confirms how and why dudes and nerds in general should be protected from being pressured by people like this lady idealistic driven individuals that use other loud or violent or manipulative tactics to include everyone which means including no one and excluding the people who don't care which is the CORRECT way of thinking and how that GOAT Jesus taught me to live life.
Sorry didn't mean to type that much guess i was just excited to respond to your new vid and show support. I was tempted to go to her vid and recommend your response comment section. I was gonna something like "nah dude it's cool when representation happens like with that horror game still wakes the deep but when it's clearly made priority and the skin color or the sexuality or the culture is brought to attention or if a character is changed to be inclusive despite it just meaning excluding straight or white people or putting in rap music for people with a certain skin color it just comes off as profiling and condescending. I never needed to share the exact skin tone to relate my childhood hero Batman or cyborg from teen titans or Hellboy or Nathan Drake or Grant from Jurassic Park which is a franchise that I'm only now realizing had people of all colors because I never cared i cared about the characters despite what they looked like or what culture or ethic background they came from. Although JT put into even better words with a perfect response video so I recommend checking that out for straight facts on how much representing others matter. but I wouldn't want that vid to get more attention but I also think it's important to respond with how ya feel and following in JT's footsteps to just speak common sense and straight facts as we need more of that.
She talks in a way i write whenever i want to bs my way to getting an A on a college paper.
J my dude, I've only recently found you, but your common sense and logic is so strong that you are literally speaking for the vast majority of gamers.
You're on your way up my dude. Stay positive, more importantly stay REAL.
25:00 I could not disagree more with that if I tried. I have a minor graphic design background, nothing crazy but I studied it a bit in school then continued on my own namely focusing on video editing that I used for a separate channel years ago. I'm black and just about every person I learned anything from was a white man. I didn't need to see myself in my teachers or tutorial makers on youtube, what mattered to me was I got the information and learned how to complete the task. I understood from the moment I started learning that it would be dominated by white people and it didn't matter to me at all. I wanted to learn so I spoke to the people who could teach me.
Also I'm learning Spanish. I learn from native speakers, now I could find black people who are native speakers I run into them regularly but I'm around the brown ones more often, they are way easier to find, and there are way more of them than the black ones. They teach me so I learn from them. I don't need to see a reflection of myself to learn a language.
This mindset is so goofy lmao.
Don't force me to care about things I don't
Everyone has different tastes there's nothing wrong with having different communities that are separated from each other but cater to different people. It's perfectly fine for someone in one community to come and hang out with another that's perfectly fine. But what modern media is trying to do is to smash these separate communities together and force them to play along. All your going to do is anger both parties and eventually after everyone is done fighting each other they'll begin to turn on the people who forced them to try to get along in the first place and that I think is what's happening now.
As long as the skin color, religion, sexuality or whatever is not the focal point of the game or character im fine. But when it starts preaching to me then they lose me as a player.
I mean...yeah those things are important in a game. Why do you think people are upset about ac shadows?
@@GeromeSmith-me9im because the devs are liars and fake as hell, it's all virtue signal rather than making a satisfying narrative.
@@GeromeSmith-me9im also, the focal point of AC tends to be the story of assassins vs templars in a recreated piece of history. That's a key point.
This is the first time that we not only play an existent historical figure, but one that isn't originally from there as well
Ofc yhe japs would reject this. They wanted a japanese assassin in Japan ffs.
It’s like she’s trying to bring her Barbie dolls over to our space full of G.I.Joe, Lego, Transformers, Dragon Ball, Power Rangers and He Man toys.🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
@@Elichamilionkeep that Barbie shit over there 😤😂
@@jtheconcept4143 🤣🤣🤣
nah, bring it over, just dont get mad at me when I am not playing with it, and dont tell the toymaker we need G.I. Joe in a dress when obviously neither me or you are gonna play with it.
She's the type of person who would cry and whine if she travels to another homogenous country where there is lack of multiculturalism. She would lecture the locals there about bringing in more migrants to make their country like California.
Yeah we view society through media 🤨....She is insane.
She was indoctrinated into indoctrinating.
I really appreciate you breaking down the space of gaming. It’s true I think keeping in mind your going into a space and there is going to lingo or even habits your gonna see. I played league and anybody knows it’s toxic.
I just noticed that she talks about games as if it is a movie.. So far I didn't hear her talk about gameplay.. or did I miss it?
Her very opening makes it obvious she's in for the story and characters in general, regardless of the medium. It's clear she doesn't have a a game that she just sits down and plays by herself or to spend time with friends.
20:53 she mentiones "amazing gameplay" but doesn't say how so.
It sounds like it could very well be a movie at some french indie cinema festival.
If a video game came out and ended up being amazing, and THEN we found out it was made by a 4 purely female dev team, they would be CELEBRATED immensely for their accomplishments.
Instead, they put the need for sexual identity FIRST, and then proceed to not have the skill or knowledge to make a game anyone wants or asked for 🤦♂️🤷🏼♂️
All whilst telling us representation is important as they make zero effort to be inclusive themselves.
I have no doubt the girl means well. I definitely agree with her on a few things. But her point that men can’t tell stories that appeal to women is quite frankly false. Korean dramas are mostly written by men and they are target Korean women and are mostly watched by Korean women. Trust me I know I am obsessed with Romance dramas as most Korean women are lol Sweet girl seems like all in all. But I 100% agree with if as women want more games that appeal to us we should take incentive to make our own
You have no doubt she means well. How does she mean well when she has no idea about the art. It's like men complaining that period pads aren't being made for them. Video games and movies aren't the same. You can waste 1hr or 2 showing women in their ditzy ways. But you can't do that over the course of 30/40hrs. Women aren't interesting like that, they don't have the bodies to be played about with like that. Men like action and interaction with the avatar. Women don't! There's too much of a gap with men and women when it comes to games. We created the art for other men. Women have tagged along and still don't understand it's not about them, for them
That's why we leave gay men to write movies and TV shows for women. GAY MEN. Not normal straight men. Normal men naturally share with other normal men. It's why the gaming industry has survived for so long. Men fund other men with money and ideas..
I bet she's arrogant enough to think that women can tell stories that appeal to men.
Fact is media that appeals to both men and women tend to be made by men and media made by women tends to only appeal to women.
8:50 actually I got N word yelled at me from people that sounded Black.
This chick has that "save all the children" vibe. Some ppl are better seen than heard.
At the beginning of the video, it sounded like she was talking about Cultivation Theory. Dirty version: The media you consume=the person you are, the principals you have, etc. This is often baked into the "you must be critical of the media you consume" and "fictional people are real people" crowd.
This dev was on Twitter touting about how her game had "no white male people in my game lol". And it's no surprise she comes from Montreal where a lot of the woke shit is coming. She's a good example of "toxic positivity".
I don't want to be represented! I want good games! 😭
She should attend comicons. How many black guys cosplay as the people of Hidden Cloud Village in naruto because they are also black? Mostly none. But everyone cosplay as naruto and other main characters. I"m naruto, james bond, kratos, etc. How many white guys say they are agent K in men in black because he is white? None, they consider themselves as agent J, a black character who is funny and charismatic.
True. And tbf, the hidden cloud guys were fun. I also liked Agent K and his dry humor, mentoring J along the way.
The Gears of War references hit so hard man. Love the vids.
Thanks for watching 👌
No, representation is not 1000% needed in indie games, gameplay, story, giving the fans what they want and good ideas that dont destroy your buisness and reputation is more important than forcing in toxic messages at the detriment of everything else for the sake of a pointless goal that you will never achieve, for example, wanting to be inclusive towards other groups of people by actively alienating other groups of people in the process like attractive women out of plain disingenuousness, ignorance, disrespect, dishonesty and actual misogyny etc for example
Exactly. Well said.
well you don't want to use their terms, but i agree that they should stay the hell out of the games that already have their demographic audience, they need to stop trying to inject their shit in our games and make their own shit somewhere else.
and any AAA studio who bends the knee on this nonsense deserves to go bankrupt on this idea and i will cheer them on that path if they choose to do so.
these AAA studios we don't need or want in our gaming space, "know your audience" les be forced to know the pain you inflict on them to yourself and your future in this business with the choices you make.
This is exactly right. Well said.
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“I’m not represented enough to play this game.”…… who thinks like that?
Narcissists, that's who.
1:28 😂😂 Your face says "Not really."
@@_Adjei_ 😂
She's not a nice person. She's one of those people who would go crazy when things don't go their way. Women like this do look down on people because they got given power they didn't earn. Also, these games, especially indie games suck on kick starter.(I'm beta tester has to test these games)
My lil Mexican grandma LOVES the Hallmark channel and ALL of those ultra-corny movies 😂🤷🏼♂️
More power to her though. I’m happy she’s happy 👍👍❤
My brother in Christ, she's Canadian, her game will totally fumble, and then Jeremy Trudeau will ship her abroad to be the HR and inclusivity commissar in other people's projects. You're smart, you know that there is a big future for this one failing onwards and upwards.
It's always the leafs pushing the woke crap. America's attic needs some spring cleaning.
I can tell you why they don't stay in their lane.
A lot of these developers aren't interested in making games, at least it's not their primary reason. A lot of them are narcissists, and their real target is fame and recognition, and there seems to be more of it on our side of the fence, and in their narcissitic mind, they already deserve all that fame and recognition (remember, we're dealing with narcissists) so they feel justified and injecting their message on our side of the fence.
“Men can’t understand what I like as a woman…I like cozy casual games with lots of narrative”
…yes. We know.
Representation is nice when it happens. Like my Crimson Fists who are space Latinos. I don't like the Crimson Fists because they're space Latinos. I love them because I love Pedro Kantor, I love thier colors, the deep blue with the crimson Fist and Silver Accents. I love the fact that they were on the cover of 1st edition warhammer 40k back in 1987. The fact that the Crimson Fists are space Latinos is just icing on the cake of a really underrated space marine chapter.
Or I love White Scar because they represent, Turkic/Turanic influences in it.
Or Just cause!!
@@HvorgandrThe Scars are pretty dope. Chris Wraight did an Amazing Job with them in the Horus Heresy.
@@PhthaloGreenskin good characters and story first, identity like you said is just an added bonus 👌
I like Afro Samurai because it's cool to have a black dude slicing up cyborgs. I like the series overall, him being black just adds to the coolness.
This feels like a bell curve meme, like she's impervious to allegory "WOW u guys, if I hadn't played this game about an Indian family moving to Canada, I wouldn't know what it feels like to be foreign in Canada and selling food, now all other minority and foreign groups should make a game of the same experience so I can learn it too".
It's typical White leftist thinking, and it's also why you see so much infighting between them.
In a perfect world everyone is chill like the Animal Crossing, Doom Eternal community, the problem with the diversity/DEI mafia is that they act like an invasive species that threatens to chokes the life out of the gaming ecosystem to force it to cater to them exclusively ironically killing off actual diversity which is why all woke games follow the same patterns in design.
Unfortunately, indie games aren't as immune to DIE corruption as people think
Well a lot of indie games aren't actually indie. They just look like it.
Thankfully there are so many indie games on the market these days, it's not that big of a problem if you ask me.
@@Kejmur yeah but also people get more forgiving over stuff that wouldn't fly in other games.
If I see you make your female characters men, I'm out, don't care about your budget or artistic view.
Look at her eyes. She doesn't believe what she's saying. She's trying to construct a message, not put forward an idea.
She starts by listing the intro talking points of Literature 101. Sounds like a college grad that believes they left university with 1000 years of wisdom not realizing that school just gets you from Level 1 to Level 3 at best, in a world where Level 100 exists.
I grew up in a LA hood and growing up, never once did I feel not represented. What I'm getting at is 99.9% of the time, I'm going to identify with a character that's has similar experiences, morals, and values as myself regardless of their skin color or gender. Two of my favorite games (Resident Evil and Tomb Raider) growing up have women leads. I'm more than my race or skin color. "Star Wars" universe is mostly all white but the fandoms spans across the world without needing to be "all inclusive". That's because people from all walks of life can relate to it. Rant over!
J, how do you not have more subs? You're funny as hell and on point on your takes. Keep it up, brotha! You're going to hit 100k quickly.
There are successful games that happen to feature some more niche, esoteric ideas, but they typically feature gameplay that appeals to a wider playerbase. First that come to mind are American McGee's Wonderland duology _Alice_ & _Alice: Madness Returns_ ; those are some weird-ass games that are super fun to play! And that's the operative factor: "fun to play". They may be trippy, but they are first-and-foremost games, not acid trips.
That's how we've gotten genuine diversity of thought in approaching game development as an art-form: players can totally warm up to the freak if it's packaged well. A big problem with gaming nowadays from indie-level all the way up to AAA is that they slap-dash all this bullshit ideology until it's bursting at the seams, and then refuse to even polish it off. They will not compromise for the sake of mechanics, because what should be an interactive experience for us is to them merely a linear vehicle for the message. So we get all the freak with none of the fun!
Alice Madness Returns was a 7th gen gem.
No More Heroes is another game with a completely fucked up concept, and story but the gameplay is addictive. The game isn't ashamed of how balls to the walls it is, and actually embraces it. You fight a singing gunslinger in a baseball stadium in one part of the game. I think a game should totally commit to it's weird ass ideas, as long as said ideas are fun to explore.
Im gamedev. And i think the expectation of adding characters to max out DEI type of qoutas is just plain tyranny. I prefer people pressure me into making good games instead.
Also she thinks a studio full of women is something to be proud of??
No. When I ask about the studio, I'm looking for how competent your people are. Not the binary they fall in.
Man, I really like your no nonsense, common sense content. Bravo. Keep it up!
I appreciate that!
Girl started off with "What if you can become superman?"😫
Representation is not 1000% needed in indie games. What is needed is innovative, great gameplay, story & plenty of content.The excessive focus on representation results in pandering & virtue signaling. Both things people hate including myself as well. Simple, make a great game & don't force DEI, ESG, Diversity or representation in them. Its always disingenous when they do that.
Fax I can't stand those types of devs they just want to shove their garbage ideology down our throats like bro leave us alone we just want to play some games, not get indoctrinated 💯
I agree 1000% with this video, diversity really needs to stay away from AAA titles with already established communities, but I do agree diversity needs to stay with Indie Games, if the ladies want to create their own games they should establish their own Studios to create games that they know women would like I agree and it's the same with other minorities, just don't mess with the titles that are already having a huge fan base.
"Games aren't mean to be cozy, that's stupid, above all games should be fun -fun for everyone" -Some cool japanese guy
LOl of course she started making games in 2016/2017. That's when games tsarted going to ****
You know, i can't believe I am actually going to fucking say this. You are the most reasonable person I have seen, and you give reasonable analogies that make me agree with you and disagree with the left point of view and how they are deeply misguided by that kind of mindset they have. I agree their heart is in the right spot, but trying to fit and mold everyone to their worldview and mindset is dangerous and rubs the wrong way. Thank you for being the voice of reason in this polarizing time. I much respect you.
(Disclaimer: I know exceptions exist everywhere, and not everybody get documented)
I like to find out who is making the entertainment that touches our souls, makes us feel every emotion when well-done. I'm an infinitely curious person when it comes to literally everything. So, I want to know the origin of why people got into spaces that gave us such interesting characters/moments/visuals/music to go with it... Lo and behold, I found a lack of women. Even on RUclips for such entertainment.
The women who did well in those fields matter, always. But I got curious about the lack of women, even in indie areas that are not simply Drama/Comedy/Topical, but more so Action/Sci-Fi/Horror, beyond acting/make-up, but crafting stories. It's not simply, "Man thing, woman thing, oogah chaka". I want an actual psychological/neurological study. What I gathered for about 5 years of looking into this, when done well, it really comes down to males caring about other people's mental well-being more than females and expressing it through making sure what they produce, when done well, without staying in a lane, writing *any* genre is done with intense yet simple detail.
Hence, the women hired to write/direct/showrun franchise adaptations nearly always do not do that and have the most mind-boggling character aspects, even if approved by higher-ups (unconscious man in WW84, Nick Fury's eye scratch, She-Hulk's main villain, Melina Vostokoff not being Natasha's nemesis unlike male villains who are always adapted to be the lead's nemesis, how Antonia Dreykov was handled whether a Taskmaster or not, Flerken evac scene, Batwoman's "when it fits a woman", Acolyte, etc. these mess up rewatchability). The women, let alone non-European/non-East Asian descent people, being less common in that space, as mentioned in this video, tends to be seen as, "We don't want you here, Grr argh!". Maybe mostly way back in the day, but not in the past few decades.
But due to pioneers like Madame C.J. Walker becoming the first self-made millionaire as a woman of non-Euro-descent, especially being Afro-descent, CEO for a business based on products for African hair in the 19freaking30s shows that, today, most of the lack of females in emotion-tugging/exhilarating entertainment are due to them not caring nearly as much about making others feel good mentally. May sound crazy, but I had to realize all this myself by even looking at the most extravagant, stunning, fun art styles for character designs/landscapes/machinery/surreal, etc. It has been mostly males from outside the U.S.A. who do the most/the best. Nothing is stopping more females than we have from doing the same even nearly as much as the males.
Indie games thank her for her opinion but they are just fine as they are.
Listen, I am sensitive as feck and cry SOOOO easily. I take things to heart when I know I shouldn't. I've gotten better over the years, of course, but I'm still quite sensitive.
Even I think these people are nuts.
I am sick of the cozy description it equates to boring for me.
Ugh, ikr!? Don't get me wrong, there are some fun games that fit the description; Sims, Minecraft, plenty of those sandbox/simulator types, but these days it usually just boils down to some super casual mobile-game-ass lookin'-ass shit.
It's also funny how she prefers more narrative-driven experiences (as if shooters aren't capable of having amazing stories?) when many of these indie slops have some of the most threadbare excuses for "plots" that I've ever seen!
@@ThePopculturemantruuuue
I'm a woman my favorite game is dragon's dogma, I play guild wars 2 and once human right now. Men keep making games that are cozy to me.
Make entertainment that you personally enjoy, and people like you will also enjoy it. But don’t push your niche ideas down everyone’s throats. Don’t force an audience that clearly doesn’t want what you’re selling, and then call them bigots for not liking it.
AAA games are meant for the majority. The majority want COD *not* Concord.
20:19😂😂😂😂 chill-fil-a blew all they ass out the waters, absolutely made my morning 😂😂😂
I disagree that stuff that caters to women cannot be popular, it absolutely is. Every JRPG, Sims or even Genshin Impact are super popular. There is a tone of cozy games nowadays that women who prefer casual gameplay can play as well. It is very wrong to look at people only through lenses of stereotypes. I agree with everything else you say though. You want something for yourself - create it/find it on Steam, but don't inject or censor existing properties. This is what turns people on each other.
You can tell she doesnt play games.
She thinks video games are a medium for storytelling.
That's all I need to know right there to immediately dismiss anything she says after that.
Gameplay is king, it's why they are called video GAMES and not video books. Yeah, they have a story but the story is part of the gameplay, it's an interactive medium.
@@gimmeyourrights8292 Yep. I've always maintained that games need a _scenario_ as a minimum to get people invested in the gameplay ("you're an elite agent breaking into a heavily guarded fortress to photograph/destroy an experimental weapon", "you're a martial arts master entering into a underground tournament of deadly assassins to prove your superiority and be crowned champion", etc. etc.). Any "story" beyond that is a luxury, but the priority should _always_ be focused on the top-notch gameplay.
@@graemevaughey7432 Any lore or anything else you want to add should compliment the gameplay.
great video you nailed it in every aspect apart from how funny you said it 😂
Thank you 😁
Honestly such a tired and extremely pointless discussion "We need more girls to make games!" or go into STEM and other such.
If they want to, no one's bloody stopping them! And if they don't want to, what do they propose? Force them at gunpoint? That sounds like a bad idea.
Also no idea if this is any consolation but in CoD lobbies and similar, I also got called the N-Word even though I neither am nor sound black, lmao
The kickstarter seems to be failing, but maybe they will receive a lot of support in the last minute.
A certain "Jeremy Castro" donating 80k canadian pesos
The only boxes that need to be checked is Talent Capability Drive And Passion. All this BS about inclusion IS DOO DOO! The only person that need to be included in a working environment is qualified creator. It’s was a time when we knew this as fact 🤔.
😂😂😂😂 J, what's up brother. I love your channel, man. You are not taking no shit. I love it. Representation is a farce. Their version of it because its ingenuine. Its filked with archetypes that doesn't match the audience they are trying to emulate. Not every Black man is gay
Narcissist who can’t put herself in other people’s shoes assumes everybody else is the same way. I’m sure she has good, if sheltered and naive intentions, but the road to AAA game Hell is paved with those.
For the love of God, let them stay away from the AAA side of gaming.
that art looks good for a box of kleenex or a card you buy for a dollar.
I'm perfectly fine with cutsy games existing. Some of them I like myself. Some of the most fun I had with a co-op game was yelling at my best friend for not cutting enough onions in Overcooked.
Ok but hear me out: Capybara Spa with GoW chainsaws
BTW.. her game? for girls? about cooking? yeah..... right....
I'll just play the pokemon cooking game.. or the one on switch...
The young lady is quite adorable, she reminds me of lucy from Fallout tv show, but she might be a little bit more naive.
I hope her kickstarter does well, even though it's not really my jam.
was it just me or was that lady just too blinding, like her personality was so bubbly and happy it was hard to look at.😎
She comes across as disingenuous, even though that is not her intention.
Good comparison, she seems like the embodiment of "wish fulfillment" like my mother collecting pennies to save enough for crown molding.
That is a game that I will not play... Also is it not ... Let's say discriminatory that a studio of four women who make a game "for women" make a kitchen game.
It also looks like a rip-off of an already pre-established game series called Cooking Mama if you want an actual good game made by a studio play Cooking Mama if you want. It's pretty good.
I was just about to say that, it looks like a furry version of cooking mama lol
If you feel the need to be represented you have bigger issues in life
I have no idea how these indie devs afford to make games that don't sell. It's like they have money, and they make garbage games just for fun or just to say that they are game devs. Not to mention the woke message. I'm not talking about the talented devs who are genuinely passionate about games but certain studios that must spend way more than they earn. Is it because of ESG money?!
Kickstarters and funding from “unknown “ sources lol
@@jtheconcept4143 Unknown like Blackrock and Vanguard.
I don't care who makes my games as long as they are good. If you want to make games catering to some kind of niche go ahead no problem, however don't expect me to stay still if you hijack my games that contain characters like Bunny or Valby and turn them into Concord characters, then you declare war on me and most of the Playerbase.
She had my good will until 23:18 where she rapidly went off the rails and ended in an explosion of BS at 24:45. She is definitely one of those people who will invent something to be offended about, when there is literally nothing.
At 25 minutes, she's saying "gate-kept".
To find meaning in life? Wtf is she talking lol we play video games as an escapism from real life bc real life can be trash alot of the time not to "find meaning in life" 😅🤣🤣😭😭😭
" I need more meaning in life maybe I should play video games 😯💡😅🤣🤣 " also as long as it's not nexon activision or EA making a game I pretty much don't care who makes it I agree that as long as it's good that's all that matters there has been alot of trash games over the past few years anyway
FORCED Representation is stupid, know your audience. if you making game to apeal to "Modern audience" fine but don't be surprised when say the other Audience "real gamers" don't support you.
It’s common sense smh
If i had to be around her for a whole day it would annoy the piss out of me. But great video as always as this is the main problem nowadays, just stay in your sandbox we'll stay in ours.
The point of video games is fun. Nothing else is really mandatory.
She really named that shit Madam Fifi's lmao shes tooo innocent she dont know what a fifi is.. bless her heart 🤣
It's not needed anywhere, representation and DEI in general are the cause of the entertainment industry going bankrupt. There is no room for creativity and originality, only for products in which you have to check boxes.
That team of 4 women are just bossing and telling their simp programmer team of friends how to make their game.
This woman comes across as extremely patronizing and doesn't understand the gaming audience. Minority or not, gaming is an interactive entertainment medium, it's not a passive one. Which means that people playing games want to have fun first and foremost. Any developer who focuses on the representational experience over the fun will always make a bad game. It may be a work of art (to them) but it's still a bad game.
Then her mentioning doing an all-female indie developer gaming studio? She just basically admitted to breaking the law via discrimination over sex. It's illegal to discriminate against sex, religious beliefs, orientation or race when hiring.
She basically comes across as someone who drank the kool-aid about diversity in college and is trying to justify her beliefs now in an industry that doesn't give two craps about it during a time when the culture is rapidly changing as the pendulum is starting to swing to the right.
EDIT: There is space for games and stories made to show off the diverse stories that they want to tell, but the problem is they took the "there is room in this space for all stories" to be "all stories have to have these themes and content". Which is not true at all.
Well said
her studio is called "cozy cat games" and her game is about baking
you couldn't make this shit up
These people are insufferable. Just little bundles of joy, so aware and respectful of people. She doesn't come off as disingenuous or anything.
Not a surprise shes from Canada
When she talked about that game about the Indian family and their experiences through food it made me realize another critical point about the current woke structure of stories: they aren't new or interesting experiences. The characters are either always victims of circumstance and its out of their control or they are super powerful and the best and their identity is what gives them all that power. There's nothing else in terms of story lines when it comes to woke.
This person should develop games. ☝
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It would be interesting to see her Steam library, something tells me no one will have problems with diversity in 95% of games she got there. And we going back to the good old truth - not every game is for everyone, I dont play souls-likes and I dont cry about it, dont demand them to change souls just for me, its just not my genre, so what? Its not good or bad by itself, its just is. I also dont like lets say football game, not enough strategy, not enough explosions and other VFX, not enough story and RPG mechanics... now imagine what football(soccer or American, doesnt actually matter) gonna look like if its made for me.
i fucking hate, when people with no idea about the actuall game dev try to lecture others. she's not a devoloper or an artist. she's a social media 'expert". she does not work on a game, she just posts videos about their studio -.-
gta 3 had a straight white male mc. I did not feel less represented in the least.