I'd argue BttF pointedly doesn't romanticize the 50s. It makes a point to show that seediness existed at the time (George being a peeping Tom, Lorraine being assaulted, teens being horny af)
Minor correction: The score for Thrashin' was written by Barry Goldberg, not Barry Goldwater as Patrick said. Though, it would have been kind of amazing for the 1964 Republican presidential nominee to wind up making the music for a 1986 movie about skateboarding.
The only thing that Rocky IV needed for a perfect 100 would be an unabashedly, undeniably 80s subtitle... Rocky IV: Only Heroes Bleed Red, White & Blue (Return of the Electric Boogaloo)
I don't think that was actually Jennifer Beals body that you saw in most of Flashdance, if I remember correctly it was actually a dancer that they would cut back and forth to that was her body double for a lot of those camera shots... Jennifer Beals was definitely a gorgeous actress but that wasn't her body
At first I was surprised Robocop didn't make the cut, but on second thought (especially after seeing all the categories) it makes sense. It's made by Orion and feels like it could have only been made in the 1980s, but it's more a reaction to the decade than an embrace of it. It would also fail miserably in the music-related scoring round.
Being directed by a Dutch filmmaker, Verhoeven's sci-fi films (Robocop, Total Recall, Starship Troopers) are kind of an outsider's observation/critique/satire on what he sees in 80s US society's problems, politics, media, culture, etc. It's a lot more aware of what it's doing formality wise, closer to Scarface than Rocky IV. (Which is why it's great)
The most 90's movie would likely be The Crow. It was grunge, lots of flannel, South by the cure, didn't have a giant star, and features a desire to tear down the face of the 80's.
@@johnnypopstar Wow. Did you come here just to be a grammar Nazi? WTF. However, since you are the one that opened this can of worms, you might want to educate yourself before correcting others (unless you can provide reputable proof of your assertion that this is a hard and fast rule). 1) Both forms are acceptable in every day usage and on an academic level. People use '80s, 80's, and 80s interchangeably. No one cares. It is entirely up to the writer and their style. 2) Neither is "technically" correct. However, both are accepted. 3) '80s - an abbreviation of 1980s 80's - belonging to the 1980s 80s - multiple variations of the 1980s If I were to be pedantic, I would argue that Tally's use of "90's" is acceptable because they are talking about a film belonging to the 1980s. However, their use of "80's" would be incorrect because they are referring to the collection of 1980's dates as a whole and therefore would be the "80s". However, like I said, no one cares. 🙄
the big one that I think is missing is The Terminator! It has an 80's action star, a super synth-heavy soundtrack, nuclear angst, a "big hair while listening to a walkman" scene and the neon-heavy 'tech noir' vibe.
Fast Times at Ridgemont High gets my vote for the comedy category. It had everything--surfer culture, mallrats,a photomat reference, fast food with costumes, an explanation of the different cliques, pointless nudity, great soundtrack, and it spawned so many '80s careers--Sean Penn, Judge Reinhold, JJL, Forest Whittaker, etc.
I love how thorough this is, really great. Only pushback I'd offer is for Round 3 on music, in Elvis Mitchell's doc "Is that Black Enough for You", he talks about how the music synergy youre talking about actually started with the boom of blaxploitation films in the 70's. Id definitely check out his doc, super informative, great work as always Patrick
Like, your parents are never the low points of your videos, always a decent presence, but today they really stole the show! Your dad's rant had me fucking howling!
My girlfriend read the title and immediately said “probably Rocky IV” and…. whaddyaknow! I’d love to see more of these for other decades. Good shit Patrick
By the way, 50s nostalgia actually got big in the 70s: Happy Days (and Laverne and Shirley), Grease, Sha Na Na, American Graffiti, The Last Picture Show... all from the 70s.
It makes sense that 50s nostalgia would take hold in the 70s, the same way 80s nostalgia is raging today. In both eras, Americans saw their nation as being in decline and rightly understood that some recent "progress" was - not really progress at all.
There used to be a nice 20ish year gap in nostalgia, but it seems to have sped up recently -- one thing for sure, the 70s came back HUGE in the late 90s and 2000s
I appreciate being told where the essay starts. I never skip, but it's nice to be given the option, shows consideration. Thanks for being awesome and providing options Patrick. You are one of the kings of pop culture video essays imho.
The ultimate 80s movie is this. Valley Girl. The reason? As this was the old Romeo and Juliet story, it portrayed it as 2 different sets of 80s groups. The ones that liked rock and punk music vs the New wave. It was a fashion battle between the clean valley types vs the dirty punk rockers. The hair, the clothes, the makeup and all the great music make Valley Girl the movie that personifies the 80s. More so than Fast Times which would rank second, then Breakfast Club.
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"Back to the Future" checks a lot of those marks. It is about ambition, it is about sucess, the soundtrack was orchestral, but there were also songs by Huey Lewis that were hits. It is about "a better, simpler America"... Marty literally travels to that era! It stars Michael J. Fox, who was shooting "Family Ties" at the time, a series about a young man who was all about greed, success and Reagan´s America.
I was expecting the 80's home computer boom, with movies like Electric Dreams or WarGames, to play a much bigger part in your rankings. Not that I think it would have change the results, but I'm a bit surprised by the absence of this quintessential 80s theme.
I really enjoyed the technical breakdown of the Aesthetics and Industry of the time. I hope you do one about the 90s that explains why everything looks beige
I'm a little surprised Footloose isn't on this list: it's got Kenny Loggins, cursive opening title, government regulation as the bad guy, MANY montages, small-town simplicity, teen audience, 3 top-10 hits, high concept, inspired by a real-world news story, and has tons of Americana
This was great! Using my own rules I would pick "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" (1985). Now please do one about the movies from the 90s! And please include the silly but extremely 90s gem "Hackers" (1995).
I’m surprised that “Better Off Dead” didn’t make the list. Yes, you mentioned that teen comedies could be shot in any era but aesthetics-wise everything about that movie screams that it was made in the 80s, not to mention the tropes and soundtrack. Same goes for “Risky Business”🤓
“The Secret of My Success” was by Night RANGER, the awesome 80’s band that performed hits like “Sister Christian” and “You Can Still Rock in America”. Night THRASHER is a Marvel Comics skateboard themed superhero and leader of The New Warriors the group responsible for the inciting incident in the comics version of Civil War. Also another Music round mistake: The composer for Thrashin’ was Barry Goldberg. Barry Goldwater was a conservative Republican Senator from Arizona and the GOP nominee for President in 1964. I can see how it would be easy to mix up those two.
How could "Earth Girls Are Easy" not even be mentioned as THE most 80s movie ever? Let alone nominated. I would love to see how Earth Girls are Easy scores because it's a perfect snapshot of 1987-1988 Los Angeles. Not only is it a movie that could ONLY be made in the 80s. But a movie that could ONLY be made in the late 80s. The music being a then MTV style musical vehicle for Julie Brown, the fashion, the consumerism/TV culture, references to 50s sci-fi, the simple love story, and the social cultural commentary, The "High concept" pitch: "3 Aliens (Jeff Goldblum, Then Unknown Jim Carrey, and Then Unknown Damon Wayans) land in The Valley LA 1988 and get mixed up with yuppie Geena Davis hijinks ensue." I could go on but this movie is SO totally 80s that it inspired the Britney Spears Iggy Azalea music video "Pretty Girls"
That's the first movie I thought of too but, by the rules of the video, if it had been made in 1990, or 1991, I don't think it would have been all that different.
@@ShadesMP5 While I won't argue that the film should have been included in this video the film is completely bonkers, there is no way it could have been made in this era of mainstream comic book films.
90s is easy. Clueless hands down the most 90s movie out there. Covers a LOT of the aesthetics that made the decade, was another in a large series of movies that were thinly veiled adaptations of classic works (this was a loose adaptation of Jace Austen's Emma) Has the skater culture, grunge culture, ska, shows cutting edge emergent 90s technology... Though he might throw it out as being a movie that could be made at any time (even though I disagree, I don't think past the 90s this would be a VERY different movie)
Actually, there was a lot of real world events in Top Gun. It seemed like every other month there were encounters between US and Soviet fighters, or close allies of the Soviets like Libya. The navies of both nations were often doing events in real life just like were depicted in the movie. And it was just a couple of years after the Gulf of Sidra incident (1981) where 2 Tomcats shot down two Libyan Su-22 fighters. That is the real life incident that was the direct inspiration for the climax of the film.
Ok, I’m going to add one more to the 80s movie music discussion at 50:00 - Vangelis. He did work on a lot of non-contemporaneous 80s films (Blade Runner, Chariots of Fire), but when I think of 80s synth soundtracks I think of him first.
You could say the Cold War plays a small role in Scarface as Tony’s coming to America is very much as a result of the Fidel Castro regime in Cuba, which was a major part of the Cold War, but it’s barely an inviting incident.
But the Pacchino version is a remake of an old black and white gangster movie, and the same plot could be made today (Willems' criteria for disqualifying the other movies).
The fact that this channel drops an hour and a half analysis and has bonus footage elsewhere is mind blowing. Thanks for this delightful breakdown. If someone had asked me what I thought before I saw this, I'd have likely said Rocky IV but not quite known why. Thanks for giving me the data to back it up!
The fact that 80s filmmaking turned towards the 50s isn't *to blame* on Spielberg and Lucas -- that's the natural force of the nostalgia cycle, they're just among the most notable and successful to come from it. In the 80s, the current generation of filmmakers (i.e. in their 30s and 40s) were the ones who grew up during the 50s and made movies that throwback to that period (but with more modern technology and points of view), the same way today's current crop of up and coming filmmakers grew up in the 80s and we're seeing a big boom in 80s throwback media.
You missed a point for Top Gun. The official soundtrack includes "Top Gun Anthem" by Harold Faltermeyer. It wasn't released as a single like "Axel F" was, but it's arguably the third-most recognizable song on the entire soundtrack (after "Danger Zone" and "Take My Breath Away", obviously).
They did a "Special Edition" Top Gun soundtrack release in 2006. Which included songs such as The Final Countdown, Can't Fight This Feeling, and The Power of Love. None of which were in the movie at all (or even referenced). I think the people in charge of re-issuing the album just liked them and because they were 80s songs the figured it was close enough.
Amazing video, Patrick! Karate Kid is so 80s that it deserved an honorable mention. It would be awesome if this becomes a series with the sequels: what's the most 90s movie? what's the most 2000s movie? what's the most 2010s movie?
Top Gun definitely deserves a few more points for "Inspired by recent real world events". The dogfight in the finale is basically a retelling of the Gulf of Sidra Incident which happened just a few years earlier.
Before I clicked on the video, and therefore having all 80s movies to pick from, I decided my choice was Rocky IV. It was great to see it not only made the short list but actually won! It really does fulfill your criteria of showing to a person out of time to explain a lot about the 80s.
As one who began the 1980s graduating from high school and ended it being a married man starting a family, you nailed it. Also, we own the same tablecloth as your parents. Kinda proud of that.
As someone who was 10 years old in 1983, I'd like to point out that only one of your candidate films had a song spoofed by Weird Al Yankovic. And that would be . . . Rocky IV ("Living in America" by James Brown, spoofed as "Living with a Hernia" by Weird Al). In addition, am I the only one who thought that when Patrick said he was going to celebrate near the end, he'd be headed to Tony Montana's mountain of cocaine?
I really think it should have been included over Thrashing or that breakdance movie. Soundtrack, montages, teenagers, freeze frame, turning a great goth girl into non-threatening girlfriend material - the works!
A fun one to watch if you haven’t: Adventures in Babysitting. I was a teenager then and adored it. Admitting that a couple of months later during college freshman week apparently turned a dude (who, to be fair, did become one of my closest friends) off from me almost completely, because hipsters have been around a LOOONG time.
Total Recall (although released in 1990) to me always felt like this last great primordial death-cry towards the ultra-violent action of the 1980''s. It was like a sign-off.
There were quite a handful in 1990 movies greenlit, shot and produced that carried the flavor of the 80's, it's almost a transitional category in and of itself.
An ambitious effort, I stand-up applaud you! Especially like a Nebula and Lindsay Ellis shout out! As an extremely old man child, this really got me. Loved the review and criticism of multiple 80s movies, and would actually love to pick your brain about those forgotten 80s gems like you mentioned. Cheers!
"I think if you want to truly understand 80s America, all you have to do is watch Rocky, then watch Rocky 4, and see what changed" -If I can change and you can change, everybody can change.
In the ‘80s masterpieces bit, people always forget Sergio Leone’s epic crime drama Once Upon A Time In America, starring Robert De Niro and also starring James Woods, Elizabeth McGovern, Joe Pesci, Burt Young, Tuesday Weld and Treat Williams. The film is told in a series of flashbacks set between 1918 and 1968. Seriously, absolutely awesome film, people need to see it more, don’t let the 3h 49m run time scare you.
I watched Once Upon a time in America a year ago. It's a really good movie but it's flawed. There were some elements of the "present timeline" that didn't go along with the things shown in the past, particularly the final twist with James Woods character which I didn't buy at all. Also, the length is just way too excessive. I've watched a fair amount of 3h movies and they all have a tough task of keeping your interest alive throughout. I was kinda bored at certain points though ironically enough it was in first part of the movie as opposed to most movies that get boring in the middle or at the end. Still, a solid movie and I can definitely see why some people put it at the top of the rankings for crime dramas. It's a bit flawed for me though.
@@cloudtx it's an opium dream, the only reality is the beginning when he walks in the opium den, and the past, but all future elements are in his mind, hence when there are 40s cars in the 60s in the end. ruclips.net/video/QdYdLAksrzQ/видео.html
@@Lord_englishgent That's an interesting theory. It does make me see the movie in a different light. Though honestly? It doesn't help with my perceived issues with the film. Still, thank you for bringing that up.
I think the 1986 movie "Rad" would have fared well on this scoring system. The production company ONLY made movies in the 80's, it's targeted at teens, it is all about BMX bikes, it is an underdog story, the outfits are all 80's, and I'd have to watch it again to catch more. Regardless of the score I recommend the movie to anyone who wants to see a hidden gem. And I would love you forever if you used Patrick's system and worked up a full score!
Thrashin', Rad, and BMX Bandits are like the holy trinity of cheesy 80s "extreme sports" movies. But that genre only truly reached its pinnacle in the 90s, not with Gleaming the Cube, but Corey Haim in Prayer of the Rollerboys, where they didn't bother with writing or directing at all, and just spent the entire budget on duster coats, and cocaine.
Always enjoy your ability to blend film history with a clever way to give your own personal thoughts and observations about a variety of films; while also being able to create original material as well! Hope you have a happy holiday season, and I always look forward to what you have to offer next!
I know it’s a really unheard of movie but what I consider a quintessential 80s movie is Alex Cox’s Repo Man. The movie centres on a punk protagonist who is disillusioned after losing his job, girlfriend and friends all over the course of one night. He’s offered a chance to become a Repo Man, someone who steals cars from the privileged and earns by commission. Soon, our protagonist bursts into the profession, getting inside the minds of his co-workers and learning all sorts of different perspectives on greed, society and politics… and time travel but that’s a different story. The object of the entire film that pushes both the protagonists and antagonists is a old, beat up 64 Chevy Malibu. No one knows why there is a $20,000 bounty for it but it soon becomes an obsession. The Malibu contains a supernatural component in its trunk that is theorized but never properly explained… is it alien or is it radioactive? The point is that it eventually glows a sickly fluorescent green… it becomes an object of desire for all of these characters which culminates in a pretty rad ending. The soundtrack is universally hailed as one of the greatest collections of bands that were just about to gain prominence in the L.A. punk scene: Black Flag, Fear, Circle Jerks, Suicidal Tendencies, ect. The soundtrack was such a big deal that after the movie was pulled after only two weeks by Universal, the sales of the soundtrack skyrocketed and everyone wanted to see the film it was based on, bringing Repo Man back into theatres to finish it’s expected run. Repo Man is many things; a statement of Reagan Era America, the rise of generic brand items, the angst of many youth and the pursuit of earning a quick buck. It even has a very early joke that satirizes Scientology before it was mainstream. I highly recommend people to watch it because I know it’s relatively obscure. It does have a Criterion release which perfectly encapsulates it’s punk rock aesthetic.
Yeah, no movies that are set in 80s thrift stores…no Alex Cox. No movies with a bunch of 80s punks in them. So sad. Or really any new wave or New Romantic type films.
How was John Carpenter's They Live not a contender!? It's the most 80's movie to ever 80's!! Big guns, Bigger biceps, synth music, fighting the government, Iconic one liners, explosions! If you've ever seen it you'll surely agree!
I'm throwing in a bonus film as an honorable mention for an ultimate 80's movie. 1986's Rad. You've got BMX racing, fantastically absurd 80's fashion, small town guy working to defeat the corporate overlords by defying all of the odds to win the big race, pre Full House and white color criminal Lori Loughlin, a BMX dance off to the tune of Send Me an Angel, an epic 80's soundtrack and a sassy foul-mouthed, younger tomboy sister. It's the complete 80's package.
Weird science could only be made in the 80s as it relies on computers being a thing that might be in your house yet the general audience and the film makers having no clue what they could and couldn't do
Honestly, in my opinion, "War Games" (1983) takes the cake. A genius teenager who screws up and then saves the world, high school, the military thwarted by incompetent bureaucrats who "just don't get it", the Cold War, early 80s computers and internet... It's got it all.
Patrick, your 80s scoring metodology is amazing--I grew up in the 80s and feel I have an even better understanding of how I felt when I watched those movies. Thanks to you, I didn't just learn about cinema--I learned about myself.
False; the most '90s movie is either _True Romance, Die Hard With a Vengeance,_ or _The Fugitive._ Detached irony, inventive action, a weird sort of indulgence of squareness, and authority figures who are always depicted respectfully even if they're the antagonists. _That's_ '90s cinema in a nutshell.
It's easily Reality Bites. No comparison. Faux-intellectual college students navigating a complex world unprepared and scorning yuppies, plus all the aesthetic stuff in spades.
I would have maybe given Purple Rain some bonus politics points considering the soundtrack partially inspired the PMRC. I took a class in college called Prince, Porn, and Public Space that was basically about Prince and Twin Cities in the 80s. It was iconic and honestly think about it a lot.
Before I even watch the video I want to respond to the title. The Goonies, strange as that may sound, is the truest 80s movie. Groups of kids with their lifeblood- the pushbike. Every kid had a pushbike and a weird assortment of friends that you rode around with and created fun. Riding to the mall, the video game store, the movies, or just getting into mischief.
I feel like having innovative special & practical effects is kind of a big 80s staple that should also maybe have been a category. It fits nicely in the high concept and franchise categories, and was something that was hyper focused in that decade. The 70s had a ton of big effects movies for sure, but the 80s doubled down. And by the 90s, things were moving towards CGI, which is where we still are now.
There could been a two categories for cocaine. 1. Does it appear on screen? (Obviously Scarface would dominate) 2. How apparent is it that people making the movie were on it? (Maximum Overdrive or Lifeforce might set the standard. But of the nominees, both films by Cannon would get some points. Flashdance could do well. Perhaps, still more points for Rocky IV on account of James Brown)
New sub, loved this video essay. And as a fellow RUclipsr, I appreciate you hand-laying out the ad breaks to not interrupt the sections, rather, you manually placed them between the rounds for the perfect “commercial” break 🙇🏼♀️ 👏🏼
The Woman In Red, Splash, Some Kind of Wonderful, The Lost Boys, The Witches of Eastwick, The Colour of Money, Desperately Seeking Susan, About Last Night, Down and Out in Beverley Hills, Big, Ruthless People, Heartburn, Moonstruck, Mask, Throw Momma from the Train, Wildcats, Overboard, Something Wild, Sixteen Candles, Roxanne, Ferris Bueller's Day Off and The Breakfast Club. All very popular. I was there in the 1980s and I have never even heard of Thrashin' and Invasion USA.
What's more 80s than Carl Weathers in a us top hat and boxing trunks dancing to Living in America, then Rocky winning the cold war with boxing? Add in like seven music montages and it's an unbeatable formula.
@@TheSchaef47 the first time I ever heard of Rocky or any of it's sequels was overhearing one of the dining hall guys at my college earnestly explaining to another student how Rocky IV *really did* end the cold war by ... I don't remember the details, something about demoralizing the soviets or making them understand the value of human connection or something
@@MissaBrevis I don't know if Rocky IV ever played in Moscow. The shortest version I can describe is that they didn't have the money or the means to keep up with our technological advancements, and the government had an outsized view of their power because people afraid to be killed for their failures would report false successes. The movie that most succinctly explains the end of the cold war, honestly, is Star Trek VI. An enemy nation has a catastrophic explosion, they try to downplay its significance, but it crippled their energy industry and exposed the holes in their overall infrastructure, and they had to sue for peace. In this layman's opinion, Chernobyl, not Rocky IV, was the beginning of the end.
@@TheSchaef47 Oh for sure Rocky IV didn't end the cold war and I think your analysis of Chernobyl really being the beginning of the end is a solid argument! I may have left out some critical information in my original comment - I majored in Russian and was taking a Soviet History course that very semester, so the pure absurdity of his argument is part of why the memory has stayed with me even years later.
I suppose I should clarify that the Chernobyl disaster was a major push towards general awareness of the USSR's myriad infrastructure weaknesses but there were already significant changes to both domestic and foreign policy in the works in the first half of the eighties, so it was a catalyst in the very definitional sense of accelerating a process that already had the potential to occur.
Interesting list but not buying your criteria I'm afraid. I just asked my friend what the 80siest movie was and we both near simultaneously said 'The Breakfast Club'. Others would be Ferris Bueller, Back to the Future, Ghostbusters, Pretty in Pink... We lived through the 80s as older kids/teenagers - you have to have been there to really know a decade.
There should have also been a category for total amount of sweat in ounces. I know that's related to hard bodies, but these clips really made the sweat feel like a distinct character. (Though practically this just would have given the winner even more of a lead.)
It's interesting to hear how film aesthetics transitioned from naturalism in the 70s to high-contrast, fast-cutting, and neon in the '80s. I can see a similar transition having taken place in the mid-2010s from the gritty realism"or mumblecore aesthetic into bi-lighting and eventually terrifying Zoomer Maximalism.
It's interesting how we're returning to sleek aesthetics but not reverting to simple narratives again (simple narratives was also very Y2K). I have to imagine we could go that route eventually, but I doubt American culture can ever become so hegemonic again.
@@gemmamoon5998 I'm not so sure. I don't think simplistic narratives are something to be afraid of, as long as they're not all we have. The constant shades of grey can become emotionally burdensome and it's nice to have some pure escapism. My favorite Marvel villain is Hela, because she's just evil and that's all we need to know (and also Cate Blanchett).
I've often had this discussion with my friends, One Crazy Summer wins every time. It's got big stars at early points in their career, class struggle of poor people versus the nasty rich, Bobcat Goldthwait as the nutbar sidekick, 80's music and voiceover, the best 'gettin-it-done' montage, and the hero overcomes his shortcomings and gets the girl in the end...a close second is BattleTruck
There should have been points for sweat - how sparkly it is, and 1 point for every 5 minutes of sweaty face or upper body on the screen. But besides that - great stuff!
Thrashin' holds a special place in my heart for being renamed "the skateboard massacre" in Sweden, also featuring the first time I ever heard Swedish in an American movie. Helt otroligt man... Also, shout out to the Patricks parents. Never change.
It's Ghostbusters. The movie, the song, the music video, the cartoon, the toys. So 80s. Honorable mention: They Live. John Carpenter and Rowdy Roddy Piper battle Reagan era aliens. Doesnt get much more 80s than that.
I'd like to give an honorary mention to Repo Man (1984). The soundtrack online I think makes it a contender especially over Breakin 2 and Invasion USA.
"What is the most 80s movie ever?" Me, without hesitation: "Big Trouble in Little China". [Sees the ten contenders] "Still Big Trouble in Little China."
Of course, the 80s was different depending on where you lived. Pop culture in many countries outside of the U.S. were also peaking during that decade. Jackie Chan & John Woo from Hong Kong, as well as Dragon Ball & Super Sentai from Japan, didn't become well-known in America until the 90s. Just like how the NBA became way more global after The Dream Team showcased it to the world in 1992.
I'm kind of surprised Rambo III didn't make the cut. An American-made film where the hero Rambo helps the Mujahideen fight the Russians in Afghanistan. That film could only have been made in the 1980s.
Okay so who's gonna start the petition for Patrick to do this for literally every other decade?
With more political rants from Patrick's dad!
And I bet that in every decade, the winner will still be a kitchy tropey propaganda film 🤭
@@reflectsonlife 60s would be fs be I wonder what Patrick would come up with for the most 90s movie
after looking through some of the top grossing 90s movies men in black one is my choice for the most 90s movie
What is the most 1890s movie?
The reason Back to the Future is the most 80s movie is because it's set in the 50s. Nothing more 80s than romanticizing the 50s.
I'd argue BttF pointedly doesn't romanticize the 50s. It makes a point to show that seediness existed at the time (George being a peeping Tom, Lorraine being assaulted, teens being horny af)
50s was peak America, we knew in the 80s and we know today.
@@INSANEFAME no it wasn't. The '60s was.
@@INSANEFAMEyou're right man, segregation was the peak of America
I'd argue that's what American Graffiti already did in the seventies. Although it's set in the early sixties.
I want to hear Patrick's dad going into full detail about his Regan rant
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Also, kudos to the delivery on the line "You didn't barge in here like some sort of French prince."
I didn't think I could love him more.
I stand corrected!
wonder when he got to the air traffic controllers' strike, feels like a day two talking point to me
#releasethepatdadcut
Minor correction: The score for Thrashin' was written by Barry Goldberg, not Barry Goldwater as Patrick said. Though, it would have been kind of amazing for the 1964 Republican presidential nominee to wind up making the music for a 1986 movie about skateboarding.
Haha well done
Watched Thrasher and Rad 100 times each.
Would this be Dr. Barry Goldberg, older brother of Adam F. Goldberg?
I have to admit I was a bit startled when Barry Goldwater's name was mentioned!
@@napesdrk1174Where is Rad here? I mean you have the movie, but then all the recorded loaned copies that is so 80s.
The only thing that Rocky IV needed for a perfect 100 would be an unabashedly, undeniably 80s subtitle...
Rocky IV: Only Heroes Bleed Red, White & Blue (Return of the Electric Boogaloo)
And a scene at a mall!
In Germany it was called "Rocky 4 - The Fight of the Century"
How do you NOT give Jennifer Beals 80s Hardbody points.
right?
100%
I don't think that was actually Jennifer Beals body that you saw in most of Flashdance, if I remember correctly it was actually a dancer that they would cut back and forth to that was her body double for a lot of those camera shots... Jennifer Beals was definitely a gorgeous actress but that wasn't her body
@@jkapp374 Sounds like it's even more deserving of the point.
@@jkapp374 The dancer in the final dance scene was a man wearing a wig.
At first I was surprised Robocop didn't make the cut, but on second thought (especially after seeing all the categories) it makes sense. It's made by Orion and feels like it could have only been made in the 1980s, but it's more a reaction to the decade than an embrace of it. It would also fail miserably in the music-related scoring round.
It's also set in a weird alternative future
@@wrestlingguy8722 I bet the I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR hard cut could earn 5 points in the American Culture category alone, but you're probably right.
As someone who could argue that RoboCop is their favorite film ever, I totally get your point. It's very critical of the culture of when it was made.
Being directed by a Dutch filmmaker, Verhoeven's sci-fi films (Robocop, Total Recall, Starship Troopers) are kind of an outsider's observation/critique/satire on what he sees in 80s US society's problems, politics, media, culture, etc. It's a lot more aware of what it's doing formality wise, closer to Scarface than Rocky IV. (Which is why it's great)
Would love other retrospective analysis videos like this for the 90's, 2000's etc.
@@treborkroy5280 ??? Legally Blonde was released in 2001
The most 90's movie would likely be The Crow. It was grunge, lots of flannel, South by the cure, didn't have a giant star, and features a desire to tear down the face of the 80's.
The most '90s movie would put the apostrophe in the proper place, for one thing.
@@aliceramenhead yeah man, I know...jeez
@@johnnypopstar Wow. Did you come here just to be a grammar Nazi? WTF.
However, since you are the one that opened this can of worms, you might want to educate yourself before correcting others (unless you can provide reputable proof of your assertion that this is a hard and fast rule).
1) Both forms are acceptable in every day usage and on an academic level. People use '80s, 80's, and 80s interchangeably. No one cares. It is entirely up to the writer and their style.
2) Neither is "technically" correct. However, both are accepted.
3) '80s - an abbreviation of 1980s
80's - belonging to the 1980s
80s - multiple variations of the 1980s
If I were to be pedantic, I would argue that Tally's use of "90's" is acceptable because they are talking about a film belonging to the 1980s. However, their use of "80's" would be incorrect because they are referring to the collection of 1980's dates as a whole and therefore would be the "80s".
However, like I said, no one cares. 🙄
the big one that I think is missing is The Terminator! It has an 80's action star, a super synth-heavy soundtrack, nuclear angst, a "big hair while listening to a walkman" scene and the neon-heavy 'tech noir' vibe.
Yeah that felt unaddressed. Maybe it’s too much of a small art film by comparison
Borderline horror slasher too and those were all the rage in that era too
Liquid Sky and Videodrome are MY notable absentees.
10000% agree
i think The Terminator would fit into the category of having 80's aesthetics but still being able to have been made in any decade.
Fast Times at Ridgemont High gets my vote for the comedy category. It had everything--surfer culture, mallrats,a photomat reference, fast food with costumes, an explanation of the different cliques, pointless nudity, great soundtrack, and it spawned so many '80s careers--Sean Penn, Judge Reinhold, JJL, Forest Whittaker, etc.
Are any of his picks set in a mall? There should be at least one.
I love how thorough this is, really great. Only pushback I'd offer is for Round 3 on music, in Elvis Mitchell's doc "Is that Black Enough for You", he talks about how the music synergy youre talking about actually started with the boom of blaxploitation films in the 70's. Id definitely check out his doc, super informative, great work as always Patrick
Very true. 💯
I was just about to type the same thing, well done!
Like, your parents are never the low points of your videos, always a decent presence, but today they really stole the show! Your dad's rant had me fucking howling!
Pat's dad gets a rant??? omg can't wait
edit: i want the whole thing Pat #ReleasetheWillemsCut
Yeah, just started watching this, and I'm already wishing the video would hurry up and get to Pat's dad's rant.
I want nothing more than an extended cut of Patrick's dad explaining Ronald Reagan.
I’d sign up for nebula for his three day anti Reagan rant
+1 for an extended/Nebula release of Pat's dad's rant. Please. The people need it.
My girlfriend read the title and immediately said “probably Rocky IV” and…. whaddyaknow! I’d love to see more of these for other decades. Good shit Patrick
LOL, yep. Same here. If you'd just asked me "what's the most 80s movie ever?" it's what I'd have picked off the top of my head.
Patrick's dad taking the hot seat is a payoff I never expected but fully appreciate.
Happy Holidays to the whole Willems family, both actual and crew!
I’m surprised The Lost Boys didn’t make the cut. It’s a very 80s movie!
I second that! 🤟Kiefer Sutherland actually made the mullet a thing in that movie! Everything else about the movie was also 80ies SF! 🥰
Documentaries don't count
The Norm Macdonald's bit "you guessed it: Frank Stallone" was BRILLIANT.
Thank you, Patrick.
The older I get the more I appreciate what Frank Stallone did. Sure, not the best performer, but his hits are very eighties in a good way.
By the way, 50s nostalgia actually got big in the 70s: Happy Days (and Laverne and Shirley), Grease, Sha Na Na, American Graffiti, The Last Picture Show... all from the 70s.
I'll put an asterisk on Sha Na Na. They played at Woodstock, which was in 1969, but I'll concede that they hit their peak in the 70's.
It makes sense that 50s nostalgia would take hold in the 70s, the same way 80s nostalgia is raging today. In both eras, Americans saw their nation as being in decline and rightly understood that some recent "progress" was - not really progress at all.
There used to be a nice 20ish year gap in nostalgia, but it seems to have sped up recently -- one thing for sure, the 70s came back HUGE in the late 90s and 2000s
Peggy Sue Got Married, Back to the Future, biopics of Marilyn Monroe and James Dean. From the 1980s.
I appreciate being told where the essay starts. I never skip, but it's nice to be given the option, shows consideration. Thanks for being awesome and providing options Patrick. You are one of the kings of pop culture video essays imho.
The ultimate 80s movie is this. Valley Girl. The reason? As this was the old Romeo and Juliet story, it portrayed it as 2 different sets of 80s groups. The ones that liked rock and punk music vs the New wave. It was a fashion battle between the clean valley types vs the dirty punk rockers. The hair, the clothes, the makeup and all the great music make Valley Girl the movie that personifies the 80s. More so than Fast Times which would rank second, then Breakfast Club.
"Back to the Future" checks a lot of those marks. It is about ambition, it is about sucess, the soundtrack was orchestral, but there were also songs by Huey Lewis that were hits. It is about "a better, simpler America"... Marty literally travels to that era! It stars Michael J. Fox, who was shooting "Family Ties" at the time, a series about a young man who was all about greed, success and Reagan´s America.
I was expecting the 80's home computer boom, with movies like Electric Dreams or WarGames, to play a much bigger part in your rankings. Not that I think it would have change the results, but I'm a bit surprised by the absence of this quintessential 80s theme.
Rocky 4 had a robot Butler that was reprogrammed by Paulie to be female. Rocky 4 would still get points.
Real Genius
I think Patrick would genuinely love the TV show 'Halt and Catch Fire'
This.
And the Fitness boom. Also seems to have been overlooked.
Weird Science could not be made today.
I really enjoyed the technical breakdown of the Aesthetics and Industry of the time.
I hope you do one about the 90s that explains why everything looks beige
You didn't catch the Fight Club-esque frame clip at the end? It's at 1:35:08
@@pyroshell5652 caught it thanks!
I'm a little surprised Footloose isn't on this list: it's got Kenny Loggins, cursive opening title, government regulation as the bad guy, MANY montages, small-town simplicity, teen audience, 3 top-10 hits, high concept, inspired by a real-world news story, and has tons of Americana
Maybe because it’s based on events in the 1970’s?
@@LuckPuddle It was actually inspired by a town that finally ended its ban on dancing in 1980.
@@gemmamoon5998 I thought the ban started in 77, 78? I’m just spitballing his reasons.
@@LuckPuddle in at least one of the towns it’s based on, the ban had been around since the 1890s
This was great! Using my own rules I would pick "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" (1985).
Now please do one about the movies from the 90s! And please include the silly but extremely 90s gem "Hackers" (1995).
I’m surprised that “Better Off Dead” didn’t make the list. Yes, you mentioned that teen comedies could be shot in any era but aesthetics-wise everything about that movie screams that it was made in the 80s, not to mention the tropes and soundtrack. Same goes for “Risky Business”🤓
yeah better off dead & UHF both seemed like serious contenders to me idk
I want a video of Patrick talking about all the dumb but interesting movies of the 80s we've all forgotten.
Yes! Going through some of the weirdest discoveries he made during his research would be fun to watch!
That's why god made Red Letter Media for us lol
Patrick Explains Miami Connection?
PATRICK EXPLAINS MIAMI CONNECTION
You just watched it.
He forgot Arnold's Predator, Terminator and Rambo Stallone!!
“The Secret of My Success” was by Night RANGER, the awesome 80’s band that performed hits like “Sister Christian” and “You Can Still Rock in America”. Night THRASHER is a Marvel Comics skateboard themed superhero and leader of The New Warriors the group responsible for the inciting incident in the comics version of Civil War.
Also another Music round mistake: The composer for Thrashin’ was Barry Goldberg. Barry Goldwater was a conservative Republican Senator from Arizona and the GOP nominee for President in 1964. I can see how it would be easy to mix up those two.
Josh brolin hates thrashin, but still loves skateboarding. Fun fact
How could "Earth Girls Are Easy" not even be mentioned as THE most 80s movie ever? Let alone nominated. I would love to see how Earth Girls are Easy scores because it's a perfect snapshot of 1987-1988 Los Angeles. Not only is it a movie that could ONLY be made in the 80s. But a movie that could ONLY be made in the late 80s. The music being a then MTV style musical vehicle for Julie Brown, the fashion, the consumerism/TV culture, references to 50s sci-fi, the simple love story, and the social cultural commentary,
The "High concept" pitch: "3 Aliens (Jeff Goldblum, Then Unknown Jim Carrey, and Then Unknown Damon Wayans) land in The Valley LA 1988 and get mixed up with yuppie Geena Davis hijinks ensue."
I could go on but this movie is SO totally 80s that it inspired the Britney Spears Iggy Azalea music video "Pretty Girls"
Buckaroo Bonzai is the more 80's movie with Jeff Goldblum. Jim Carrey is more 90's.
@@jaredcheeda Not when he's in a movie from 1988 wtf
@@jaredcheeda Buckaroo Bonzai is a comic book movie that could be made today. The 80s is not a part of the plot. Did you not watch the video?
That's the first movie I thought of too but, by the rules of the video, if it had been made in 1990, or 1991, I don't think it would have been all that different.
@@ShadesMP5 While I won't argue that the film should have been included in this video the film is completely bonkers, there is no way it could have been made in this era of mainstream comic book films.
Love this concept! Please do a version for the 90's, 00's and 10's
90s is easy. Clueless hands down the most 90s movie out there.
Covers a LOT of the aesthetics that made the decade, was another in a large series of movies that were thinly veiled adaptations of classic works (this was a loose adaptation of Jace Austen's Emma) Has the skater culture, grunge culture, ska, shows cutting edge emergent 90s technology...
Though he might throw it out as being a movie that could be made at any time (even though I disagree, I don't think past the 90s this would be a VERY different movie)
Actually, there was a lot of real world events in Top Gun. It seemed like every other month there were encounters between US and Soviet fighters, or close allies of the Soviets like Libya. The navies of both nations were often doing events in real life just like were depicted in the movie. And it was just a couple of years after the Gulf of Sidra incident (1981) where 2 Tomcats shot down two Libyan Su-22 fighters. That is the real life incident that was the direct inspiration for the climax of the film.
Ok, I’m going to add one more to the 80s movie music discussion at 50:00 - Vangelis. He did work on a lot of non-contemporaneous 80s films (Blade Runner, Chariots of Fire), but when I think of 80s synth soundtracks I think of him first.
Yeah, there aren’t any Vangelis movies on here. Or Jerry Goldsmith.
You could say the Cold War plays a small role in Scarface as Tony’s coming to America is very much as a result of the Fidel Castro regime in Cuba, which was a major part of the Cold War, but it’s barely an inviting incident.
“Regime”
But the Pacchino version is a remake of an old black and white gangster movie, and the same plot could be made today (Willems' criteria for disqualifying the other movies).
The fact that this channel drops an hour and a half analysis and has bonus footage elsewhere is mind blowing. Thanks for this delightful breakdown. If someone had asked me what I thought before I saw this, I'd have likely said Rocky IV but not quite known why. Thanks for giving me the data to back it up!
The fact that 80s filmmaking turned towards the 50s isn't *to blame* on Spielberg and Lucas -- that's the natural force of the nostalgia cycle, they're just among the most notable and successful to come from it. In the 80s, the current generation of filmmakers (i.e. in their 30s and 40s) were the ones who grew up during the 50s and made movies that throwback to that period (but with more modern technology and points of view), the same way today's current crop of up and coming filmmakers grew up in the 80s and we're seeing a big boom in 80s throwback media.
Every generation does this. I see the 2010s and 2020s get so much flack for looking at past decades when every other decade did the same thing. Lol
I’m actually kind of shocked “Wall Street” didn’t make the list. It would have been the first thing that came to mind when posed with the question.
I think it’s critique of ‘80s yuppie culture is what makes it “timeless”; after all, American Psycho came out in 2000 and Wolf of Wall Street in 2013.
You missed a point for Top Gun. The official soundtrack includes "Top Gun Anthem" by Harold Faltermeyer. It wasn't released as a single like "Axel F" was, but it's arguably the third-most recognizable song on the entire soundtrack (after "Danger Zone" and "Take My Breath Away", obviously).
He did mention it tho
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They did a "Special Edition" Top Gun soundtrack release in 2006. Which included songs such as The Final Countdown, Can't Fight This Feeling, and The Power of Love. None of which were in the movie at all (or even referenced). I think the people in charge of re-issuing the album just liked them and because they were 80s songs the figured it was close enough.
Amazing video, Patrick! Karate Kid is so 80s that it deserved an honorable mention.
It would be awesome if this becomes a series with the sequels: what's the most 90s movie? what's the most 2000s movie? what's the most 2010s movie?
prequels, too! 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s... Somebody get him a magic wand.
The most 90s movie is The Crow and it's not even close.
Top Gun definitely deserves a few more points for "Inspired by recent real world events". The dogfight in the finale is basically a retelling of the Gulf of Sidra Incident which happened just a few years earlier.
I seriously cannot stop thinking about this video. The beginning hook was terrific, and the structure of the various rounds was so engaging!
Patrick's dad going in on Reagan is beautiful
1:02:37 I can’t believe Patrik missed a chance here to go for ”Rocky IV keeps rising up to meet the challenge of its rivals” 😅
omg can't believe it's another almost two hour long video, this is just what i need rn, thank you!
Before I clicked on the video, and therefore having all 80s movies to pick from, I decided my choice was Rocky IV. It was great to see it not only made the short list but actually won! It really does fulfill your criteria of showing to a person out of time to explain a lot about the 80s.
I was torn between Rocky 4 and Top Gun.
Being a teen in the 80s, I said Rocky IV before even watching it.
As one who began the 1980s graduating from high school and ended it being a married man starting a family, you nailed it. Also, we own the same tablecloth as your parents. Kinda proud of that.
As someone who was 10 years old in 1983, I'd like to point out that only one of your candidate films had a song spoofed by Weird Al Yankovic. And that would be . . . Rocky IV ("Living in America" by James Brown, spoofed as "Living with a Hernia" by Weird Al). In addition, am I the only one who thought that when Patrick said he was going to celebrate near the end, he'd be headed to Tony Montana's mountain of cocaine?
Funnily enough, Weird Al also spoofed "Eye of the Tiger" from Rocky III
The Breakfast Club is the iconic 80s coming of age film with the biggest influence on both film and culture in general.
I really think it should have been included over Thrashing or that breakdance movie. Soundtrack, montages, teenagers, freeze frame, turning a great goth girl into non-threatening girlfriend material - the works!
100 percent. Has all the tropes the 80s is known for … and what I think of when I think 80s!
@@MariaVosaYeah, but goth makeovers on talk shows got big in the 90s. TBC was ahead of the curve. :)
It’s hard to believe Earth Girls Are Easy wasn’t on your list…how much more 80s could you get?
Seriously, you need to consider some categories if you would choose any movie over that one to be quintessentially 80s.
A fun one to watch if you haven’t: Adventures in Babysitting. I was a teenager then and adored it. Admitting that a couple of months later during college freshman week apparently turned a dude (who, to be fair, did become one of my closest friends) off from me almost completely, because hipsters have been around a LOOONG time.
Definitely needs more movies on this list with female leads. I feel this 80s list is lopsided.
This video-essay is a pure gem.
Total Recall (although released in 1990) to me always felt like this last great primordial death-cry towards the ultra-violent action of the 1980''s.
It was like a sign-off.
There were quite a handful in 1990 movies greenlit, shot and produced that carried the flavor of the 80's, it's almost a transitional category in and of itself.
@@CasualNapsNo one mentions that. As someone who went to high school in the 80s but graduated in the 90s, there is definitely overlap.
An ambitious effort, I stand-up applaud you! Especially like a Nebula and Lindsay Ellis shout out! As an extremely old man child, this really got me. Loved the review and criticism of multiple 80s movies, and would actually love to pick your brain about those forgotten 80s gems like you mentioned. Cheers!
I feel you not ending on a freeze frame was a missed opportunity. 😂
"I think if you want to truly understand 80s America, all you have to do is watch Rocky, then watch Rocky 4, and see what changed" -If I can change and you can change, everybody can change.
I gotta be honest I didn't know Scarface was a 80s movie feels like a 70s movie to me
In the ‘80s masterpieces bit, people always forget Sergio Leone’s epic crime drama Once Upon A Time In America, starring Robert De Niro and also starring James Woods, Elizabeth McGovern, Joe Pesci, Burt Young, Tuesday Weld and Treat Williams. The film is told in a series of flashbacks set between 1918 and 1968. Seriously, absolutely awesome film, people need to see it more, don’t let the 3h 49m run time scare you.
I saw the long cut. My whole life people had told me how epic it is and "it's the story of your people!"
I hated it.
I think it's less of it being forgotten and more of it not being very good.
I watched Once Upon a time in America a year ago. It's a really good movie but it's flawed. There were some elements of the "present timeline" that didn't go along with the things shown in the past, particularly the final twist with James Woods character which I didn't buy at all.
Also, the length is just way too excessive. I've watched a fair amount of 3h movies and they all have a tough task of keeping your interest alive throughout. I was kinda bored at certain points though ironically enough it was in first part of the movie as opposed to most movies that get boring in the middle or at the end.
Still, a solid movie and I can definitely see why some people put it at the top of the rankings for crime dramas. It's a bit flawed for me though.
@@cloudtx it's an opium dream, the only reality is the beginning when he walks in the opium den, and the past, but all future elements are in his mind, hence when there are 40s cars in the 60s in the end. ruclips.net/video/QdYdLAksrzQ/видео.html
@@Lord_englishgent That's an interesting theory. It does make me see the movie in a different light. Though honestly? It doesn't help with my perceived issues with the film.
Still, thank you for bringing that up.
I think the 1986 movie "Rad" would have fared well on this scoring system. The production company ONLY made movies in the 80's, it's targeted at teens, it is all about BMX bikes, it is an underdog story, the outfits are all 80's, and I'd have to watch it again to catch more. Regardless of the score I recommend the movie to anyone who wants to see a hidden gem. And I would love you forever if you used Patrick's system and worked up a full score!
Thrashin', Rad, and BMX Bandits are like the holy trinity of cheesy 80s "extreme sports" movies. But that genre only truly reached its pinnacle in the 90s, not with Gleaming the Cube, but Corey Haim in Prayer of the Rollerboys, where they didn't bother with writing or directing at all, and just spent the entire budget on duster coats, and cocaine.
Always enjoy your ability to blend film history with a clever way to give your own personal thoughts and observations about a variety of films; while also being able to create original material as well!
Hope you have a happy holiday season, and I always look forward to what you have to offer next!
Some missing contenders: Wallstreet, To Live and Die in L.A., Working Girl, Twins, Trading Places, Mr. Mom, Quicksilver
I know it’s a really unheard of movie but what I consider a quintessential 80s movie is Alex Cox’s Repo Man.
The movie centres on a punk protagonist who is disillusioned after losing his job, girlfriend and friends all over the course of one night. He’s offered a chance to become a Repo Man, someone who steals cars from the privileged and earns by commission. Soon, our protagonist bursts into the profession, getting inside the minds of his co-workers and learning all sorts of different perspectives on greed, society and politics… and time travel but that’s a different story. The object of the entire film that pushes both the protagonists and antagonists is a old, beat up 64 Chevy Malibu. No one knows why there is a $20,000 bounty for it but it soon becomes an obsession. The Malibu contains a supernatural component in its trunk that is theorized but never properly explained… is it alien or is it radioactive? The point is that it eventually glows a sickly fluorescent green… it becomes an object of desire for all of these characters which culminates in a pretty rad ending. The soundtrack is universally hailed as one of the greatest collections of bands that were just about to gain prominence in the L.A. punk scene: Black Flag, Fear, Circle Jerks, Suicidal Tendencies, ect. The soundtrack was such a big deal that after the movie was pulled after only two weeks by Universal, the sales of the soundtrack skyrocketed and everyone wanted to see the film it was based on, bringing Repo Man back into theatres to finish it’s expected run.
Repo Man is many things; a statement of Reagan Era America, the rise of generic brand items, the angst of many youth and the pursuit of earning a quick buck. It even has a very early joke that satirizes Scientology before it was mainstream. I highly recommend people to watch it because I know it’s relatively obscure. It does have a Criterion release which perfectly encapsulates it’s punk rock aesthetic.
Yeah, no movies that are set in 80s thrift stores…no Alex Cox. No movies with a bunch of 80s punks in them. So sad. Or really any new wave or New Romantic type films.
How was John Carpenter's They Live not a contender!? It's the most 80's movie to ever 80's!! Big guns, Bigger biceps, synth music, fighting the government, Iconic one liners, explosions! If you've ever seen it you'll surely agree!
Didn’t have the soundtrack though
Dude… “Gotcha” was one of my faves as an ‘80s kid. 🤣🤣🤣
I'm throwing in a bonus film as an honorable mention for an ultimate 80's movie. 1986's Rad. You've got BMX racing, fantastically absurd 80's fashion, small town guy working to defeat the corporate overlords by defying all of the odds to win the big race, pre Full House and white color criminal Lori Loughlin, a BMX dance off to the tune of Send Me an Angel, an epic 80's soundtrack and a sassy foul-mouthed, younger tomboy sister. It's the complete 80's package.
Came here to shout this out. Well played sir.
Weird science could only be made in the 80s as it relies on computers being a thing that might be in your house yet the general audience and the film makers having no clue what they could and couldn't do
Honestly, in my opinion, "War Games" (1983) takes the cake. A genius teenager who screws up and then saves the world, high school, the military thwarted by incompetent bureaucrats who "just don't get it", the Cold War, early 80s computers and internet... It's got it all.
Patrick, your 80s scoring metodology is amazing--I grew up in the 80s and feel I have an even better understanding of how I felt when I watched those movies. Thanks to you, I didn't just learn about cinema--I learned about myself.
Loved this, great rating system! Now please do it for "the most 90's movie" (and tell us why it is 'Space Jam').
False; the most '90s movie is either _True Romance, Die Hard With a Vengeance,_ or _The Fugitive._ Detached irony, inventive action, a weird sort of indulgence of squareness, and authority figures who are always depicted respectfully even if they're the antagonists. _That's_ '90s cinema in a nutshell.
I'd go with Spice World :)
It's easily Reality Bites. No comparison. Faux-intellectual college students navigating a complex world unprepared and scorning yuppies, plus all the aesthetic stuff in spades.
The Crow
Monkeybone
I would have maybe given Purple Rain some bonus politics points considering the soundtrack partially inspired the PMRC. I took a class in college called Prince, Porn, and Public Space that was basically about Prince and Twin Cities in the 80s. It was iconic and honestly think about it a lot.
I really appreciate your effort in producing this wonderful video and discussion. Chefs kiss.
Before I even watch the video I want to respond to the title. The Goonies, strange as that may sound, is the truest 80s movie. Groups of kids with their lifeblood- the pushbike. Every kid had a pushbike and a weird assortment of friends that you rode around with and created fun. Riding to the mall, the video game store, the movies, or just getting into mischief.
I feel like having innovative special & practical effects is kind of a big 80s staple that should also maybe have been a category. It fits nicely in the high concept and franchise categories, and was something that was hyper focused in that decade. The 70s had a ton of big effects movies for sure, but the 80s doubled down. And by the 90s, things were moving towards CGI, which is where we still are now.
I can't believe you are making things approaching two hours. Amazing just amazing. You and your team are doing such good stuff congratulations.
There could been a two categories for cocaine.
1. Does it appear on screen? (Obviously Scarface would dominate)
2. How apparent is it that people making the movie were on it? (Maximum Overdrive or Lifeforce might set the standard. But of the nominees, both films by Cannon would get some points. Flashdance could do well. Perhaps, still more points for Rocky IV on account of James Brown)
It was the 80s. I think you can take the cocaine "as read" in everything.
New sub, loved this video essay. And as a fellow RUclipsr, I appreciate you hand-laying out the ad breaks to not interrupt the sections, rather, you manually placed them between the rounds for the perfect “commercial” break
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The Woman In Red, Splash, Some Kind of Wonderful, The Lost Boys, The Witches of Eastwick, The Colour of Money, Desperately Seeking Susan, About Last Night, Down and Out in Beverley Hills, Big, Ruthless People, Heartburn, Moonstruck, Mask, Throw Momma from the Train, Wildcats, Overboard, Something Wild, Sixteen Candles, Roxanne, Ferris Bueller's Day Off and The Breakfast Club. All very popular. I was there in the 1980s and I have never even heard of Thrashin' and Invasion USA.
I have been saying FOR DECADES that "Rocky IV" is *the* most '80s movie ever made. Well done, sir. :-)
What's more 80s than Carl Weathers in a us top hat and boxing trunks dancing to Living in America, then Rocky winning the cold war with boxing? Add in like seven music montages and it's an unbeatable formula.
@@TheSchaef47 the first time I ever heard of Rocky or any of it's sequels was overhearing one of the dining hall guys at my college earnestly explaining to another student how Rocky IV *really did* end the cold war by ... I don't remember the details, something about demoralizing the soviets or making them understand the value of human connection or something
@@MissaBrevis I don't know if Rocky IV ever played in Moscow. The shortest version I can describe is that they didn't have the money or the means to keep up with our technological advancements, and the government had an outsized view of their power because people afraid to be killed for their failures would report false successes.
The movie that most succinctly explains the end of the cold war, honestly, is Star Trek VI. An enemy nation has a catastrophic explosion, they try to downplay its significance, but it crippled their energy industry and exposed the holes in their overall infrastructure, and they had to sue for peace. In this layman's opinion, Chernobyl, not Rocky IV, was the beginning of the end.
@@TheSchaef47 Oh for sure Rocky IV didn't end the cold war and I think your analysis of Chernobyl really being the beginning of the end is a solid argument! I may have left out some critical information in my original comment - I majored in Russian and was taking a Soviet History course that very semester, so the pure absurdity of his argument is part of why the memory has stayed with me even years later.
I suppose I should clarify that the Chernobyl disaster was a major push towards general awareness of the USSR's myriad infrastructure weaknesses but there were already significant changes to both domestic and foreign policy in the works in the first half of the eighties, so it was a catalyst in the very definitional sense of accelerating a process that already had the potential to occur.
Keep going Patrick. Becoming one of the best channels around.
Can't believe you didn't include the movies in your honorable mentions section in your top ten. Enjoy the algorithm boost.
The Goonies is quintessential 80s. It’s got all the tropes and character archetypes of the time.
Interesting list but not buying your criteria I'm afraid. I just asked my friend what the 80siest movie was and we both near simultaneously said 'The Breakfast Club'. Others would be Ferris Bueller, Back to the Future, Ghostbusters, Pretty in Pink... We lived through the 80s as older kids/teenagers - you have to have been there to really know a decade.
Agree! And you should have watched the movies, not just the trailers.
There should have also been a category for total amount of sweat in ounces. I know that's related to hard bodies, but these clips really made the sweat feel like a distinct character. (Though practically this just would have given the winner even more of a lead.)
All the sweat was to show just how hard they were working. To remind us that hard work pays off...in Hollywood.
It's interesting to hear how film aesthetics transitioned from naturalism in the 70s to high-contrast, fast-cutting, and neon in the '80s. I can see a similar transition having taken place in the mid-2010s from the gritty realism"or mumblecore aesthetic into bi-lighting and eventually terrifying Zoomer Maximalism.
It's interesting how we're returning to sleek aesthetics but not reverting to simple narratives again (simple narratives was also very Y2K). I have to imagine we could go that route eventually, but I doubt American culture can ever become so hegemonic again.
@@gemmamoon5998 I'm not so sure. I don't think simplistic narratives are something to be afraid of, as long as they're not all we have. The constant shades of grey can become emotionally burdensome and it's nice to have some pure escapism. My favorite Marvel villain is Hela, because she's just evil and that's all we need to know (and also Cate Blanchett).
I've often had this discussion with my friends, One Crazy Summer wins every time. It's got big stars at early points in their career, class struggle of poor people versus the nasty rich, Bobcat Goldthwait as the nutbar sidekick, 80's music and voiceover, the best 'gettin-it-done' montage, and the hero overcomes his shortcomings and gets the girl in the end...a close second is BattleTruck
This is for sure a captivating well-made essay, but it should be named "What Is The Most 80s Hollywood Movie Ever?".
Yup. No cult films allowed in the Big Boys club.
Goonies, Neverending story, back to the future, flight of the navigator
I lost it at "You guessed it: Frank Stallone." Perfectly executed.
There should have been points for sweat - how sparkly it is, and 1 point for every 5 minutes of sweaty face or upper body on the screen.
But besides that - great stuff!
Thrashin' holds a special place in my heart for being renamed "the skateboard massacre" in Sweden, also featuring the first time I ever heard Swedish in an American movie. Helt otroligt man... Also, shout out to the Patricks parents. Never change.
Wonderful video. Hope you do it again for some of the other decades!
It's Ghostbusters. The movie, the song, the music video, the cartoon, the toys. So 80s. Honorable mention: They Live. John Carpenter and Rowdy Roddy Piper battle Reagan era aliens. Doesnt get much more 80s than that.
Great video! I was born in '77, so this soaked me in nostalgia! Extremely well made as well!
I'd like to give an honorary mention to Repo Man (1984). The soundtrack online I think makes it a contender especially over Breakin 2 and Invasion USA.
And in one scene you can see Staying Alive on a theater marquee.
I need a second thumbs up button for that second “I’ll put the kettle on!”
The fact Dirty Dancing was set in the early sixties is enough for an immediate elimination.
"What is the most 80s movie ever?"
Me, without hesitation: "Big Trouble in Little China". [Sees the ten contenders]
"Still Big Trouble in Little China."
I'd love to see something similar, analyzing the 2010s and 1960s, my two favorite eras of film and television
Thanks Patrick now I feel old because I was born before the 80’s.
Of course, the 80s was different depending on where you lived. Pop culture in many countries outside of the U.S. were also peaking during that decade. Jackie Chan & John Woo from Hong Kong, as well as Dragon Ball & Super Sentai from Japan, didn't become well-known in America until the 90s. Just like how the NBA became way more global after The Dream Team showcased it to the world in 1992.
Despite the world being globally different depending on where you lived, and more diverse, that is not the way Hollywood portrayed it.
@@GenerationNextNextNext Cinema in different countries all had their own portrayals.
I'm kind of surprised Rambo III didn't make the cut. An American-made film where the hero Rambo helps the Mujahideen fight the Russians in Afghanistan. That film could only have been made in the 1980s.
Surprised Highlander didn't make the list, to be honest: made by Cannon, synthy Queen soundtrack, 80s cast. Perfect, really