A Complete Guide to Pop Music Needle Drops in Movies

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  • @LegalEagle
    @LegalEagle 3 года назад +2160

    Thoughts and prayers to Patrick's Adsense revenue.

    • @RhizometricReality
      @RhizometricReality 3 года назад +55

      The algorithm, eyes glowing, piano music intensifying...

    • @Osoweeb
      @Osoweeb 3 года назад +1

      Lol

    • @Osoweeb
      @Osoweeb 3 года назад +1

      @Irish Jester true because what is left of a person is what they leave behind

    • @jeremyphillips3087
      @jeremyphillips3087 3 года назад +3

      @@Osoweeb Yeah, their force ghost. Exactly.

    • @vlogily8043
      @vlogily8043 3 года назад +2

      @@Osoweeb yeah your hide becomes dust and your excrement becomes grass

  • @timonsteup2877
    @timonsteup2877 3 года назад +833

    Patrick: "Stop using Sympathy for the Devil"
    Hollywood Studios: "Please allow me to introduce myself."

    • @kamilziemian995
      @kamilziemian995 3 года назад +9

      Nice catch.

    • @lukehayden5492
      @lukehayden5492 3 года назад +7

      It’s nice to meet you

    • @StuartGarlick
      @StuartGarlick 3 года назад +3

      "A man. Of culture. I see."

    • @johnnypopstar
      @johnnypopstar 3 года назад +18

      Timon Steup: "I hate making references to Austin Powers"
      Me: "Allow myself to introduce... myself"

    • @hschenck3394
      @hschenck3394 3 года назад

      In Focus!

  • @aeschafer1
    @aeschafer1 3 года назад +51

    "How Scorcese Does It" --> cutaway to Martin digging through a record shelf, calling out to his wife, "Honey, have you seen my copy of Let it Bleed"?

  • @Jackster8484
    @Jackster8484 3 года назад +55

    The reason all star is so good in Shrek is because of the viewer expectation at the time. In that most people associated animated movies with Disney. So Shrek builds up this tradisional Disney animated story. Only to then flush it down the toilet and use a needle drop to distance it as far away from Disney as it can.
    So the song is a good use because of.
    - Setting the tone of the movie forward.
    - Building Shrek as a uncut gem by the harshness of the song.

    • @DKdrop
      @DKdrop 6 месяцев назад +6

      The other great needle drop from the Shrek franchise is a lot more interesting to me. The use of “Holding out for a Hero” at the end of Shrek 2 is so on the nose that it should be laughable. But it’s made by the fact that it’s not only diegetic, it’s sung by the villain. The fairy godmother is attempting to manipulate the story, turning the villainous Prince Charming into the hero that the audience knows he isn’t. Intercutting this with Shrek storming the castle, though, takes this back: we know who the real hero is. As the soundtrack builds up behind her vocals, we realize that the fairy godmother is unintentionally singing an anthem for our actual hero. In the eyes of the audience, she’s rooting for her own demise. It’s full of so much juicy irony, I love it.

  • @randomchick901
    @randomchick901 3 года назад +798

    The best Shrek needle drop is OBVIOUSLY the godmothers rendition of “I Need a Hero”

    • @mial804
      @mial804 3 года назад +3

      True tho

    • @deanscordilis7280
      @deanscordilis7280 3 года назад +20

      When I tell you 12 year old me was crying during that scene.

    • @Radien
      @Radien 3 года назад +80

      The thing is, that particular track rides the line between three different categories: is it s needle drop? Is it a jukebox musical track, since the Fairy Godmother sings it (recorded just for the movie)? Or is it the score, since it seamlessly incorporates the musical themes from the movie's soundtrack into the song itself?
      I'm not criticizing your mention of it. I think I'm actually saying it *~transcends~* being the best needle drop, to be one of the most effective uses of music in movie history. 👍🏻

    • @filmotel
      @filmotel 3 года назад +4

      I prefer the use of "I Need a Hero" in Short Circuit 2

    • @nolaffinmatter
      @nolaffinmatter 3 года назад +11

      @@Radien Someone has watched Sideways. (If anyone want an entire 17min expanding on the use of I Need A Hero in Shrek, look up their channel)

  • @MichaelHeide
    @MichaelHeide 3 года назад +701

    "Famed Marvel Fanboy Martin Scorcese".
    I almost woke the rest of the house with my laugh.

    • @mooselee3053
      @mooselee3053 3 года назад +5

      I came here to say exactly this. LOL!

    • @ilRosewood
      @ilRosewood 3 года назад +3

      Same. Both of my kids asked me what was so damn funny.

    • @krishacz
      @krishacz 3 года назад +15

      famed marvel fanboy and shark tale star martin scorsese

    • @hugocortizo6993
      @hugocortizo6993 3 года назад +1

      I read this comment before arriving at the joke and I still nearly died laughing

    • @AJLikesCats
      @AJLikesCats 3 года назад +1

      Big same over here!

  • @fiction-
    @fiction- 3 года назад +281

    An interesting study in needle drops can be done with Supernatural season 1. The Netflix version has replaced the original needle drops with random songs, while the original songs are often cited as being one of the reasons people fell in love with the show.

    • @ErrisSq
      @ErrisSq 3 года назад +35

      Very common problem. FDRF have mentioned that about streaming versions of Scrubs.

    • @SupergeekMikeDowntime
      @SupergeekMikeDowntime 2 года назад +26

      It’s a causality of a lot of pre-streaming shows - I think Supernatural suffers the worst of it due to how iconic the music is meant to be, but a lot of shows from that era and earlier have the issue because home video/streaming wasn’t included in the original rights.

    • @kateprovance
      @kateprovance 2 года назад +8

      I haven't watched the show on Netflix, but this makes me sad. Some of the best scenes in the early seasons are amazing because of the music. But I get why they can't put it in there. SIGH. I think the show was always good at picking music.

    • @NTWoo95
      @NTWoo95 2 года назад +6

      They changed the songs? But it’s the greatest hits of mullet rock!

    • @TrashHeapCustodian
      @TrashHeapCustodian 2 года назад +6

      Same thing happened to the show Top Gear, when it was on the BBC they had the rights to the BBC music library, so a lot of songs got used that were super famous, but when it got ported over to streaming, they used royalty free tracks, and didn't change anything else, and it is just... Worse

  • @richardcorso7187
    @richardcorso7187 3 года назад +47

    "We'll Meet Again" at the end of Strangelove. 👌

    • @Redmenace96
      @Redmenace96 21 день назад

      I'm not sure he mentioned anything by Kubrick. Not "pop" from the title but, "Thus Spake Zarathustra" is the biggest needledrop of all time? Kubrick and music may be another 2 h video?

  • @AstOnokGaming
    @AstOnokGaming 3 года назад +560

    This goddamn coconut went from a weird gag to an annoyance to a year-spanning plot that i am invested in

    • @ABoyNamedArt
      @ABoyNamedArt 3 года назад +18

      I am here for CHARL VS ABBA
      That's who the mystery person was at the end right?

    • @blokey8
      @blokey8 3 года назад

      @@ABoyNamedArt My pulse genuinely spiked

    • @gregstephens
      @gregstephens 3 года назад +4

      Charl is what we watch now.

    • @SamPhoenixKnight
      @SamPhoenixKnight 3 года назад +7

      Still at annoyance for me

    • @into-the-mild
      @into-the-mild 3 года назад +6

      @@SamPhoenixKnight same. It’s just lame. But hey at least they are putting up a “skip to this time code” now. So that’s great.

  • @vincentbatten4686
    @vincentbatten4686 3 года назад +221

    Sylvester Stalone yelling out yeah without the music fucking killed me. I need that clip for bad days.

    • @ExperienceJacob
      @ExperienceJacob 3 года назад +4

      It was perfect. Should have been in the movie.

    • @Raphir
      @Raphir 3 года назад +4

      Here's a suggestion for you: look up "dancing in the streets mick jagger no music"

    • @goodial
      @goodial 3 года назад

      there's a channel doing this kind of stuff, it's called "Without Music"! I also remember College Humor doing Carly Rae Jepsen's I Really Like You in that way

    • @AScreenwritersJourney
      @AScreenwritersJourney 3 года назад

      8:49 Rocky - no music.

  • @rhondawithabook8001
    @rhondawithabook8001 3 года назад +73

    NWA’s “F*** tha Police” in Us was a perfect diegetic needle drop

    • @Orangeflava
      @Orangeflava 2 года назад

      Also “I Got 5 on It” from the final fight was dope.

  • @evanjones-hazledine2404
    @evanjones-hazledine2404 3 года назад +38

    “Goodbye Horses” in The Silence of the Lambs is one of my favorite needle drops of all time.

  • @SIDEKICKDUSTY
    @SIDEKICKDUSTY 3 года назад +194

    Visions of the Folding Ideas guy chugging cough syrup flooded my mind when Patrick brought up Suicide Squad's song choices

    • @blokey8
      @blokey8 3 года назад +6

      He also rinsed the song choices, I recall

    • @BryWithAWhy
      @BryWithAWhy 3 года назад +5

      Everytime I see the intro shot, I think about him pointing out the unreadable text on the screen

  • @garrettmckellar
    @garrettmckellar 3 года назад +508

    Can we just have a full "Patrick's dad talks boomer rock" video?

    • @brucebruceish
      @brucebruceish 3 года назад +4

      This, please.

    • @MetallicalCatastroph
      @MetallicalCatastroph 3 года назад +41

      >video
      You mean channel.

    • @ilRosewood
      @ilRosewood 3 года назад +17

      What patreon level is this?

    • @blokey8
      @blokey8 3 года назад +14

      Nebula Exclusive?

    • @CallMeCharley
      @CallMeCharley 3 года назад +11

      the amount of times I've heard that exact same The Last Waltz complaint from my mum has made me go crazy

  • @oneopinion6806
    @oneopinion6806 2 года назад +9

    I don't care how mainstream, the callback needle drop of Immigrant Song in Thor: Ragnorok in the theater made me feel like I could have torn my seat off the floor.

  • @myfisharmyisever-growing7393
    @myfisharmyisever-growing7393 3 года назад +101

    The "ironic use of pop music for dissonance" was used really well in one of my favorite sci-fi books, Gemina by Amie Kaufman and Jay Kristoff. There's a fictional lewd chart-topper circulating on the radio as the characters navigate the seedy underbelly of their space station. It'd be the equivalent of WAP playing as someone gets shoved out of an airlock.

    • @guard13007
      @guard13007 2 года назад +1

      I recently finished the Aurora Cycles series by the same authors, and this sounds wonderful. Thanks for making me look it up!

    • @maxducoudray
      @maxducoudray Год назад

      You're describing coincidence, not irony.

    • @parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078
      @parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078 10 месяцев назад

      ​there are no coincidences, only weak pattern recognition skills

    • @vivianloney
      @vivianloney 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@maxducoudraythere aren't coincidences in fiction

    • @maxducoudray
      @maxducoudray 10 месяцев назад

      @@vivianloney Fair enough, but the example in this post is literally the opposite of irony.

  • @JohnDRuddyMannyMan
    @JohnDRuddyMannyMan 3 года назад +347

    God, I was almost ready to put money on you closing with Sympathy for the Devil lol

    • @goodial
      @goodial 3 года назад +11

      I was kind of waiting for a Sympathy for the Devil in movies Supercut XD

    • @JDesch
      @JDesch 3 года назад +5

      @@goodial Are there even that many? I can barely think of any

    • @goodial
      @goodial 3 года назад

      @@JDesch I don't really know either :D

    • @arcanz100
      @arcanz100 3 года назад

      that would have been a genius move

    • @johnmillholland6550
      @johnmillholland6550 3 года назад +2

      Was surprised to see Soderbergh make an appearance because he did use Sympathy for the Devil in Oceans 11

  • @hollismartin
    @hollismartin 3 года назад +280

    Patrick absolutely owns the realm of:
    Me opening RUclips: "I don't think that topic is interesting, I'll just watch a minute or two."
    Me, 5 minutes later: "Forget that double feature, I'm gonna watch every second of this video."

    • @kamilziemian995
      @kamilziemian995 3 года назад +2

      I stay to 3rd at night, to watch this video to 45 minut or so.

    • @kylefoutz4920
      @kylefoutz4920 3 года назад +4

      So you're saying i SHOULD watch the O.C. video. Hm.

    • @JDesch
      @JDesch 3 года назад

      That's how I felt about the Greatest Showman and OC vids but this topic I knew I'd enjoy a full hour of as soon as I saw it

    • @ice_cube8302
      @ice_cube8302 3 года назад

      He owns the smuggest of smug awards cause this guy is the smuggiest smug of all smugs in all of smugtube.

  • @DoMMy627
    @DoMMy627 3 года назад +28

    The needle drop in Another Round is so powerful and I wish this video came out a couple months later so that it could be included

    • @klaatuNaatu
      @klaatuNaatu 7 месяцев назад +2

      Oh man, that's so true. It was just what the movie needed to do to bring me to tears at the end. Which is kind of odd because it's such a free spirited, "bouncy," happy song.

  • @the135joker3
    @the135joker3 3 года назад +27

    'he'll go Ballistic: Ecks Vs Sever'
    I rarely like videos but that line earned it

    • @Turnoutburndown
      @Turnoutburndown 3 года назад +1

      Haha thank you I forgot about that joke because the video was so long. I need to start saying that.

  • @danielduff
    @danielduff 3 года назад +223

    You had to be a kid born in the late 90s, having only really seen Disney movies on VHS, and that's your only real reference for what movies are, then you go to the theatre for the first time in your life and see Shrek wipe his ass with the story book opening of literally every movie you've watched up to that point, punctuated by that first "SomeBODY" to really appreciate the brilliance of the All Star needle drop.

    • @maximeteppe7627
      @maximeteppe7627 3 года назад +32

      Yeah, I was gonna say, it works because of the contrast of the disney renaissance movies that are its backdrop.

    • @zacharyfaulkner3448
      @zacharyfaulkner3448 3 года назад +2

      Well said.

    • @skywalkerchick
      @skywalkerchick 2 года назад +3

      God, I was 8 years old when that movie was released. I remember going to see that movie in the theater with my dad, and that needle drop FLOORED me. Every movie I’d seen in the theater up to that point had been either a Disney renaissance film or an early Pixar movie. The people born after the release of Shrek just don’t get how jarring that opening was, like even Dreamworks’ earlier films like The Prince of Egypt or The Road to El Dorado kinda had a bit of that Disney soundtrack formula to them

  • @BenM.Davies
    @BenM.Davies 3 года назад +140

    Last time I was this early, I was thankful someone had finally made a video about MCU colour grading.

  • @ajerqureshi6411
    @ajerqureshi6411 2 года назад +26

    Something else about James Gunn and his music selection (and I really only noticed this in The Suicide Squad) is that all of his Needle Drops are diagetic, being introduced or played through radios, speakers, or even a person singing the song. This helps a bit with the grounding of the obsurtity he does with his movies, giving the audience an anchor point to what's happening but tying it to a song they might know, usually an indie song. Similarily, Gunn is very careful on what songs he picks to make sure it serves the narrative purpose of the scene. Every song played in GOTG not only ties into what's happening to the story, they also tie directly to Merideth Quill...I think Gunn even said he had a whole collection of songs saved as a "Meridith Quill collection"

  • @niktri8312
    @niktri8312 3 года назад +30

    "You Only Live Twice" at the end of the fifth season of Mad Men is the most perfect needle drop in history, and that's a fact.

    • @jpittmon1363
      @jpittmon1363 3 года назад +8

      Tomorrow Never Knows gave me goosebumps.

  • @rycolligan
    @rycolligan 3 года назад +177

    "Famed Marvel fanboy: Martin Scorsese." If I had been drinking I would have done an actual spit-take. Well struck.

    • @Deoxys911
      @Deoxys911 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, I literally laughed out loud at that; that was a good one.

    • @samuellucci1511
      @samuellucci1511 3 года назад

      Yeah that one got a real deal lol out of me.

  • @princessjello
    @princessjello 3 года назад +135

    I really wasn't expecting that opening theme...

  • @skajohncarter
    @skajohncarter 3 года назад +25

    "Famed Marvel fanboy, Martin Scorsese" almost made me snort my old fashioned out my nose. It burns.

  • @airoseilatan
    @airoseilatan 3 года назад +28

    As an aspiring music supervisor and former screenwriter, this explores how I feel about using music in film better than I could ever articulate!

  • @redtutel
    @redtutel 3 года назад +179

    Never would’ve guessed Patrick would be a fellow “Ant-Man is underrated” guy. I agree.
    I feel like I just a semester of something. It’s very informative.

    • @LucasDeziderio
      @LucasDeziderio 3 года назад +9

      Ant-Man is better than Thor: Ragnarok and no one can change my mind.

    • @zippogirl
      @zippogirl 3 года назад +9

      @@LucasDeziderio Agreed. Ant-Man is probably the MCU movie I've seen the most. I find it very rewatchable.

    • @caitlinrobinson6812
      @caitlinrobinson6812 3 года назад +2

      I love both ant man movies. They are just so much fun. And antman and the wasp has one of my favorite villains.

    • @mikeciul8599
      @mikeciul8599 3 года назад

      This video is secretly an homage to Edgar Wright.

    • @LucasDeziderio
      @LucasDeziderio 3 года назад +1

      @@caitlinrobinson6812 I love the first one, but I think the second one was a letdown in comparison.

  • @jasondavidcox
    @jasondavidcox 3 года назад +235

    Patrick I love how you always go so much harder than you have to. Your guys' production value is unmatched!

    • @hazardeur
      @hazardeur 3 года назад +1

      the first sentence can be grabvely misunderstood ;))

    • @jmscme
      @jmscme 3 года назад +1

      He’s the only RUclipsr that I like the videos and write a comment because his content is criminally under watched! I love everything about them.

  • @christophersmith3005
    @christophersmith3005 2 года назад +11

    My favorite type of needle drop occurs at the very end of a movie. It is typically layered over the end credits, adding a final punctuation to what you have just seen. In _The Big Short_ Zeppelin's "When the Levee Breaks" is a perfect example.

  • @chokoanders6546
    @chokoanders6546 3 года назад +13

    My favorite needle drop is from the most underrated scene in parasite when the basement man comes up and they turn on the gramophone it fits so well in the themeing of the movie with how the upper class is presebted with classical music and how the music is deliberately different from anything else in the movie

  • @shadyguy23
    @shadyguy23 3 года назад +249

    I realized very quickly that I didn't know what the term Needle Drop meant - apparently my brain thought it was another term for a Record Scratch. And now I want an hour long video about the history of record scratches in movies.

    • @samringwald
      @samringwald 3 года назад +10

      You were not alone my friend.

    • @jorzolek01
      @jorzolek01 3 года назад +2

      Same!

    • @burstvgc
      @burstvgc 3 года назад +2

      that does make me wonder where the record scratch freeze frame baba o'reilly was in this vid

    • @djaevlenselv
      @djaevlenselv 3 года назад +2

      I thought it meant something like beat/bass drop

    • @hoebare
      @hoebare 2 года назад +2

      I too was hoping for a record scratch treatise, but this is also great. And maybe we'll still get that record scratch video some day?

  • @JJJameson.
    @JJJameson. 3 года назад +65

    I'm 31 minutes in and Patrick has said he'll "talk more about x "at least 4 times, I'm worried
    Edit: He actually did it, this man is unstoppable

  • @robertwild9447
    @robertwild9447 3 года назад +59

    Not sure if it counts, but "Raindrops keep falling on my head" in Spider-man 2 would be a personal favorite of mine.

    • @adamtherock2008
      @adamtherock2008 3 года назад +5

      And it was originally there as a placeholder but Raimi really liked it and thought it fit so kept it!

    • @xray235
      @xray235 3 года назад +4

      Raindrops was already famously used previously in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

    • @SupergeekMikeDowntime
      @SupergeekMikeDowntime 2 года назад

      Totally counts!

  • @JamoboBorg
    @JamoboBorg 3 года назад +13

    I've seen a few people mention I Need A Hero from Shrek 2, but it sadly doesn't count based on Patrick's disclaimer at 4:40. The song is performed by a character in the film, which stops it from being a proper needle drop and if that doesn't satisfy you, just know that Jennifer Saunder's, who voices Fairy Godmother, is the one singing in the actual sequence everyone is talking about. Which is the same as actors in biopics and Prince in Purple Rain.
    Also The Sound of Silence is definitely poorly used in Watchmen, but I think Ride of the Valkyries was done well. It's supposed to make you think of Apocalypse Now and of the horror of the Vietnam War, it then flips this by showing just how one-sided the war is when Dr. Manhattan is involved. It brings back those vivid memories using the same song, just to point out how radically different this world is when living nuclear weapons exist.

  • @Alextafur1
    @Alextafur1 3 года назад +263

    Ok but can we all agree that the "All Star" needle drop in Shrek is outdone by the "I Need A Hero" needle drop IN ITS OWN SEQUEL?

    • @blokey8
      @blokey8 3 года назад +23

      Yes. Absolutely. Not least for the irony of the villain providing the soundtrack to the hero.

    • @jebus9001
      @jebus9001 3 года назад +1

      False but ok

    • @whatiftherewasanun
      @whatiftherewasanun 3 года назад +11

      I don't know if it counts as a needledrop though, it's basically a musical number turned into a hero montage through the power of editing.

    • @Alextafur1
      @Alextafur1 3 года назад +4

      @@whatiftherewasanun Isn't that one of the exact classes Patrick mentions? Diegetic needle drops that then become the score?

    • @whatiftherewasanun
      @whatiftherewasanun 2 года назад +4

      @@Alextafur1 it's being sung by a character within the film, so no.

  • @hugocortizo6993
    @hugocortizo6993 3 года назад +158

    Patricktony (H) Willemstano, the internet's busiest movie nerd

    • @alexlindbjerg8283
      @alexlindbjerg8283 3 года назад +8

      Perfection :D

    • @2dan4me97
      @2dan4me97 3 года назад +20

      a collab between the two would be interesting, the shiniest heads in their respective fields

    • @juhaniaho6698
      @juhaniaho6698 3 года назад +5

      Needs more reverb. And flashing rainbow text.

  • @AdamYJ
    @AdamYJ 3 года назад +3

    I’m so glad somebody else remembered that Mystery Men exists. I’ll always think of “All Star” as the Mystery Men song rather than as the Shrek song.

  • @VictorGarciaFilms
    @VictorGarciaFilms 3 года назад +9

    Another phenomenal video essay. Gotta love the use of a Dutch angle at 16:41 upon the mention of Tarantino, so much thought, playfulness, and effort put into these awesome videos.

  • @Shinanite
    @Shinanite 3 года назад +81

    A Knight's Tale, an underrated piece of movie

    • @goodial
      @goodial 3 года назад +6

      that we will rock you opening is a masterpiece!

    • @daishoryujin95
      @daishoryujin95 3 года назад +2

      They never continued the Canterbury tales cinematic universe....

  • @Zeroharpe
    @Zeroharpe 3 года назад +59

    Every time I hear "London Calling" in a movie, and it's NOT about the nuclear apocalypse... I just instantly assume it's a bad movie.

    • @amazingdancingturnips9236
      @amazingdancingturnips9236 3 года назад +7

      Right?? Have film makers ever listened to more than one word of that song?

    • @digitaljanus
      @digitaljanus 3 года назад +10

      The Rutger Hauer film Split Second's portrayal of near-future London is so close to the lyrics of that song, I was appalled the song *wasn't* in the movie.

    • @ImJustHereToWatch14
      @ImJustHereToWatch14 3 года назад +9

      Petition for movies to start using Werewolves of London when they want to introduce the audience to London

    • @nvrndingsmmr
      @nvrndingsmmr 3 года назад

      @@ImJustHereToWatch14 Last Train to London is a good one too.

    • @robtak
      @robtak Год назад +1

      Or “London” by The Smiths.
      It never mentions the city by name, only referring to it obliquely with a mention one of its railway stations. It would be an appropriate choice, given the way most filmmakers use The Clash song, because it’s actually about someone going to London.

  • @alltheworldsastage
    @alltheworldsastage 3 года назад +7

    One of my favorite diegetic drops that transform into a non-diegetic drop is actually from a TV show. S03E10 of Lost, titled "Trisha Tanaka is Dead".
    The Hurley centric episode makes great use of the song "Shambala" by Three Dog Night provides a cathartic high to Hurely's story in that episode. The thing that makes this example so special is that when the show uses the actual recorded version of the song by Three Dog Night, it is diegetic (Kicks on in the Dharma Van), but it when it switches to non-diegetic, the song switches from the original to an orchestral arrangment of the song, by series composer Michael Giacchino, that closes the episode out in a very beautiful way, through the show's score.
    Brilliant use of that song in the episode.

  • @crystalfairy912
    @crystalfairy912 3 года назад +10

    I got excited when Kesha’s Woman began playing at the end of Birds of Prey. I was digging the soundtrack throughout already and it just felt like a cherry on top of a delightful movie. And of course it fits thematically with the story.
    Honorable mention to Zoolander. When David Bowie reveals himself, we get like three seconds of Let’s Dance play with his title card. Just look up the walk off scene. Writing this out doesn’t do Bowie’s entrance justice.

  • @lukegerdeman9935
    @lukegerdeman9935 3 года назад +84

    The whole "white guys listening to hip hop" cliche is perfectly played with the first time we see Kendall Roy in Succession.

    • @PasCorrect
      @PasCorrect 3 года назад +6

      Given that Patrick works with David Chen, who co-hosts a Succession podcast, I really hope we get a Succession video on this channel someday...

    • @furdterguson3299
      @furdterguson3299 3 года назад +5

      I think that's a perfect illustration of Patrick's point about pretty much anything working when it's diagetic. Not that it's not a perfect song choice, but if it was just playing non-diagetically as soundtrack it'd feel stale. But the fact that a Beastie Boys song is what Kendall is choosing to listen to on headphones in order to pump himself up for going in to work at his dad's business empire and that he is rapping along and punching the back of the passenger seat (in spite of a probably very annoyed driver being right there) is such a perfect illustration of his character.

  • @TheSrawsome
    @TheSrawsome 3 года назад +30

    Only five minutes in and omg THE OPENING AND THE STYLE BOYZ SWEATER I'M DYING!
    Art. This is pure art.

    • @TheSrawsome
      @TheSrawsome 3 года назад +4

      This video was truly great.

    • @marcd2726
      @marcd2726 3 года назад +3

      Style Boyz sweater ON POINT. I want one of those

    • @michellesprague3163
      @michellesprague3163 2 года назад

      Way more people should be commenting on the Style Boyz sweatshirt. Inspired choice.

  • @sacrefrenchie2132
    @sacrefrenchie2132 3 года назад +5

    this was great! But none of us forgot that "I Want It That Way" is an absolute banger

  • @Rich88James
    @Rich88James 2 года назад +6

    Ahh man, I was genuinely hoping you would talk about the Trainspotting opening. 'Lust for Life' is perfect for the opening of that movie. But what I find more interesting is how it's used in Trainspotting 2. It's only used non-diegetically in the first film, but in Trainspotting 2 it's a physical record that Renton owns, but is completely unable to listen to as it brings back too many memories of things he did in the first movie. It's only at the very end of the film that he's finally able to listen to the song and we literally see his past self falling away and his present self starts dancing to the music. It's beautiful and cathartic. And it's honestly my absolute favourite use of a song in any film.

  • @charlescaguioa9483
    @charlescaguioa9483 3 года назад +16

    Patrick needle dropping 2NE1's "I am the Best" at the end was the pop quiz question I aced for the 1-hour class I took about Needle Drops.

  • @nate_d376
    @nate_d376 3 года назад +120

    Never did find out how many times "sympathy for the devil" has been used.......

    • @jliller
      @jliller 3 года назад +21

      I, for one, want a comprehensive list. Or at least a RUclips video that's a clip show of said uses.

    • @jskrabac
      @jskrabac 3 года назад +17

      666 times :P

    • @imveryangryitsnotbutter
      @imveryangryitsnotbutter 3 года назад +10

      @@jskrabac Actually that's a common misconception. It's really been used 616 times.

    • @jskrabac
      @jskrabac 3 года назад +1

      @@imveryangryitsnotbutter Queue montage of bad ass scientist doing science stuff to find this discrepancy... all to needle drop of Sympathy for the Devil. 👹

    • @MichaelSotoCE
      @MichaelSotoCE 3 года назад +1

      I feel cheated

  • @bbloomfield6497
    @bbloomfield6497 3 года назад +4

    I've been a Video DJ performance artist for quite some time. Years ago I played a live +4 hour set of iconic needle drops accompanied by the same scenes or edits of the films projected in a Hunter S. Thompson inspired dive bar. To string different tracks together there'd be Inception on the screen with a remix of "Non Je Ne Regrette Rien", or Prince - "Kiss" set to first kisses from the last 60 years of film, or Lonely Island - "I'm on a Boat", set to Titanic and Bowie - Space Oddity with 2001: A Space Odyssey etc. I also served popcorn.
    This essay reminded me a lot of the research I was doing into soundtracks, the feelings that music paired with film can evoke, why I spent 6 months working on that set and why I wanted to get into editing in the first place.

  • @hanam2528
    @hanam2528 2 месяца назад

    Never would I have expected 2NE1's "I AM THE BEST" from 12 years ago to be the needledrop at the end. Brought me so much joy to hear it

  • @MetallicalCatastroph
    @MetallicalCatastroph 3 года назад +56

    "The actual essay starts at 4:00"
    But why would anyone want to skip the Charl segments?

    • @rasmusn.e.m1064
      @rasmusn.e.m1064 3 года назад +3

      Hot take: it looks like an apology but is actually a humblebrag.

    • @Mukumann
      @Mukumann 3 года назад +6

      Skiped that shit

  • @oops6876
    @oops6876 3 года назад +143

    Today Charl will be portrayed by Anthony Fantano.

    • @alanfloresayoroa1204
      @alanfloresayoroa1204 3 года назад +17

      "Hi everyone! Charltony Charltano here, the internet's busiest coconut"

    • @brucebruceish
      @brucebruceish 3 года назад +10

      Wouldn't work, he's a melon. Charl is a coconut.

    • @kevinwillems8720
      @kevinwillems8720 3 года назад +9

      @@brucebruceish as we all know coconuts and melons have been enemies for centuries

    • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
      @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 3 года назад +5

      All he needs is glasses and a flannel, really.

    • @oops6876
      @oops6876 3 года назад +2

      @@kevinwillems8720 Fantano is a real Scarlett Johansson of tropical fruit

  • @Jogwheel
    @Jogwheel 3 года назад +16

    I've always been partial to Van Halen's "Dance The Night Away" digetic needle drop in "Mission To Mars" - not sure why, but it totally works.

  • @Tomwithnonumbers
    @Tomwithnonumbers 3 года назад +16

    Patrick to the ContentID system: "Come take my video, I dare you"

  • @robotsex111
    @robotsex111 3 года назад +66

    "Don't be a Suicide Squad." Sage words, indeed.

    • @johnblack3204
      @johnblack3204 3 года назад +11

      I think it's officially safe to say that it's okay to be The Suicide Squad though

  • @jhclementine4138
    @jhclementine4138 3 года назад +26

    sometimes after a stressful day of zoom college, you get blessed with an hour-long patrick h willems video about pop music needle drops and it even has mamma mia in it, as a treat

  • @NiekKlaverstijn
    @NiekKlaverstijn 3 года назад +2

    You mentioning Duran Duran in Layer Cake made this the perfect video for me.

  • @frishf8888
    @frishf8888 3 года назад +2

    I think my favourite part about the Hurdy Gurdy Man scene in Zodiac, is that the song transitions from diegetic to non-diegetic at the exact moment the scene perspective transitions from the victims to that of the Zodiac Killer

  • @tedorbach3430
    @tedorbach3430 3 года назад +42

    Underrated needle drop: Heroes and Villains in Fantastic Mr. Fox

    • @wulfbuoygarwalfey3582
      @wulfbuoygarwalfey3582 3 года назад +1

      an all timer

    • @abelsanchez2070
      @abelsanchez2070 3 года назад

      Hell ya

    • @goodial
      @goodial 3 года назад +1

      best "needle drop" in that movie is Petey's song though XD "YOU WROTE A BAD SONG PETEY!"

    • @ENigma-um8zw
      @ENigma-um8zw 2 года назад +1

      “🎼I’ve been in this town so long that back in the city I’ve been taken for lost and gone and alone for a long long time, 🎶fell in love years ago with an innocent girl from the Spanish and Indian home of the Heroes and Villains..!”

  • @robinhahnsopran
    @robinhahnsopran 3 года назад +43

    I'm here for the vintage Charl newsreel. It's high art.

  • @mdmonsoon
    @mdmonsoon 3 года назад +12

    Cruella 2021 was interesting - I went in expecting it's jukebox usage to feel like a cheap suicide squad knock off, but it actually became much more interesting because the setting for the film was actually the 70's rock and roll revloution in England which had such clear connection with the emerging fashion trends of 70's England - the heart of the movie. I found myself more impressed until the very end when they literally bury the characters old name, Cruella is offically born with her new name, and..... Sympathy for the Devil starts playing. It was just too much.

  • @brunilda12
    @brunilda12 2 года назад +1

    I fully support Hank’s Willems oppinion. Brave man. I also want to mention that we don’t talk enough about The Last Waltz.

  • @arn999
    @arn999 3 года назад +37

    That Star Trek Beastie Boys needle drop could have been such a disaster, but somehow, it works.

    • @lllSASlll
      @lllSASlll 3 года назад +4

      The "I like beats and shouting" line sold it for me. It's somehow a great moment

    • @laboon344
      @laboon344 3 года назад

      Have been

    • @arn999
      @arn999 3 года назад

      @@laboon344 I realize that ;) fixed.

    • @Radien
      @Radien 3 года назад +1

      I think part of the reason it works is because of the idea that somebody in the future dug a deep cut into musical history to pull it out and play it in such a disparate setting.
      Young Kirk doesn't seem aware of anyone ever making fun of the song. He's playing it unironically in a setting where no one would make fun of him for it.

    • @arn999
      @arn999 3 года назад +1

      @@Radien Aaah, I mean, I don't know what's your relationship with the Beastie Boys or with this song in particular, but it just seems a bit strange to think people would make fun of the song somehow? And why would it be played ironically? The Beastie Boys are one of the building blocks of hip hop in the late 80s. They make jokes and are humorous, but they're not a joke. I'm not offended or anything! lol. It just seems strange to me.

  • @JaredPoirier
    @JaredPoirier 3 года назад +13

    Holy cow that James Bond style intro was INCREDIBLE

  • @davidjay7116
    @davidjay7116 3 года назад +2

    I spent my entire life until now thinking that "needle drop" was the term for that thing when something surprising happens in a show or movie and they stop the music suddenly and there's that record scratch sound and everyone looks at the surprising thing.
    I was really confused how there could be an hour+ long video on those, but this makes way more sense.

  • @theoptimisticmetalhead7787
    @theoptimisticmetalhead7787 3 года назад +1

    This is the best video you've ever made for the Hot Rod reference ALONE.

  • @quincyyoung8104
    @quincyyoung8104 3 года назад +39

    It is impossible to overstate how helpful and educational this video is, and impossible to tally how much money this channel has saved me from spending on film school.

  • @Bedinsis
    @Bedinsis 3 года назад +41

    As a Swede I must admit I laughed out loud when I heard how you pronounced "Åmål". It sounded like you said "'em all", which combined with the rest of the movie title explained to me why they changed the title when going international.

    • @Jutlander83
      @Jutlander83 3 года назад +2

      I know a woman named Amal and I was also thrown off momentarily.
      Incidentially, I live a couple of hours from Åmål and now I kind of want to go there on a Scandinavian 90s Kid Pilgrimage.

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 2 года назад

      I remember seeing that movie in the Rotterdam film festival (quite possibly before wide release, though) but it was definitely called fucking åmål then.

    • @Confuseddave
      @Confuseddave 2 года назад

      @@JasperJanssen I also saw it in cinemas in the UK as Fucking Åmål, although that was universally the sub. I think the DVD version I have was "Show Me Love".

  • @samuelshaw7730
    @samuelshaw7730 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think my favorite needle drop ever is "Ooh La La" by The Faces at the end of Rushmore. Gives me goosebumps every time

  • @guyr3618
    @guyr3618 3 года назад +24

    The "Just a Girl" needle-drop comes after a scene which is all about Carol embracing being "only human", while the aliens tell her to be an emotionless robot. So, "Just a Girl" isn't about her embracing her femininty, it's about her embracing her humanity. It may as well be called "just a human". It's a bit of a stretch, but I think it works well enough. And the tone of the song seems to fit it perfectly.

    • @shadowmaster1313
      @shadowmaster1313 3 года назад +7

      Yeah the kree don't have patriarchy but the theme of carol being "out of control" if she feels her emotions felt pretty the same for me

    • @MichaelSotoCE
      @MichaelSotoCE 3 года назад +1

      I love no doubt and i like the movie, but it was just sooooooooo on the nose, it took the whole theater out of the movie. In fact, i think many of us were already half expecting that song due to the soundtrack

    • @Jennybacktv
      @Jennybacktv 3 года назад +4

      I agree. And I think it also speaks on another level to the women watching and finally seeing a new level of representation. It brought a tear to my eye when the song came on.
      I like Patrick but sometimes he misses the wider social impact.

    • @shadowmaster1313
      @shadowmaster1313 3 года назад +2

      The real problem is that there was a perfect opportunity to make it diagetic (have the song start after the kareoke machine gets knocked) and they didn't take it

    • @handlesarestupid154
      @handlesarestupid154 3 года назад

      Sounds like they shoulda used "real human being"

  • @deathclaw01
    @deathclaw01 3 года назад +40

    "I should have killed that f--king coconut when I had the chance" I actually lol'd

  • @IanShirley
    @IanShirley 3 года назад +74

    I waited around patiently for 50 minutes to finally get to A Knight's Tale

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark 2 года назад

      One of my favourite parts and favourite movies.
      I loved he mentioned that point.

  • @almightysosa3007
    @almightysosa3007 2 месяца назад

    Not a movie but season 3 of Fargo has one of the best needle drops of all time when “crazy on you” by heart plays right around the beginning of the first episode. It sets the tone for the rest of the season and I like how they choose to play the music at first as if it’s part of the soundtrack but then when they cut to inside the car it’s just the song playing on the radio and is quickly drowned out by conversation. When the music is an actual part of the scene and not just a cool sound to throw on top after editing it’s almost always way better.

  • @ryanlee2935
    @ryanlee2935 3 года назад +5

    "do you think Dom Cobb has a favorite band? of course not." underrated.

  • @mikechannel5582
    @mikechannel5582 3 года назад +9

    The subtle zoom on Dirk’s face during “Jessie’s Girl” where you see the wheels turning in his head is one of my all time favorite needle drops

  • @JohnDRuddyMannyMan
    @JohnDRuddyMannyMan 3 года назад +114

    Oh thank god, you at least paid lip service to Trainspotting :D I was getting worried there!

    • @XanderShiller
      @XanderShiller 3 года назад

      Excellent example.. Danny Boyle even mentions that ppl say his movies are more like music videos. But he knows exactly what he's doing.
      Sopranos is a VERY controversial example. For anyone has hasn't watched it..tsk tsk tsk.

  • @debrachambers1304
    @debrachambers1304 Год назад +2

    The best TV show I've ever seen for needledrops is Mr. Robot. The songs all fit perfectly, are pretty diverse and often are not overly obvious choices. It's Scorsese level.

  • @cactoidpinata
    @cactoidpinata 9 месяцев назад +5

    Nice essay!
    When you were comparing Tarantino and Scorsese using music so effectively, you touched on Shaun of the Dead. I would say that Edgar Wright stands up there with them. His films integrate music in creative, funny, and exciting ways. In that scene of Shaun of the Dead, did you notice that they're beating the zombie bartender to the beat of the song? I think that adds another layer, lol.

    • @unit--ns8jh
      @unit--ns8jh 8 месяцев назад +1

      Sgt Rock is Gonna Save Me in Hot Fuzz is just perfect 🙂

  • @brianmillerspeaks
    @brianmillerspeaks 3 года назад +36

    This is your best work. Years of watching this channel, and I'm just blown away with the quality and detail of this video essay. Congratulations, man.

  • @marmaladevenus3230
    @marmaladevenus3230 3 года назад +11

    Portrait of a Lady on Fire was the perfect use of an entirely silent soundtrack until suddenly it is not.

    • @hollandscottthomas
      @hollandscottthomas 3 года назад +1

      That movie is a painting brought to life. It's incredible.

  • @WanderKrew
    @WanderKrew 3 года назад +1

    Freebird in Kingsman always gives me goosebumps as it slowly creeps in before the drums kick in for the all out carnage

  • @dmiller21283
    @dmiller21283 3 года назад +3

    MAN! this guy's production value is better than some large budget TV shows.

  • @DareToEntertain
    @DareToEntertain 3 года назад +93

    Don't think i have been this turned on by a run time ever

    • @pharmtec24
      @pharmtec24 3 года назад +1

      Lmao. I didn’t even notice the run time when I hit play. I saw this comment and hadn’t realized how long I had been laying in my bed watching a RUclips video!

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain 3 года назад +6

      @@pharmtec24Just Love it when Pat goes full Pat and goes into full-length detail on literally anything and makes it look off the cuff but its all so well scripted. Less wine then i expected but think that will come soon.

  • @joshuaamy3010
    @joshuaamy3010 3 года назад +9

    I heartily recommend the video Sideways made on the soundtrack of Shrek and how it merges the needle drops into the original score

  • @TheMokeleMbembe
    @TheMokeleMbembe 3 года назад +9

    One of my absolute favorite 'needle drops that turns into the soundtrack'... s, is in the first ep of season 2 of Mr. Robot, as a character burns a giant bag of cash as Phil Collins' "Take Me Home" gets louder and louder, jumping from someone else's iPod to the soundtrack of the whole scene.

    • @samringwald
      @samringwald 3 года назад

      You mean diagetic that becomes score.

    • @nvrndingsmmr
      @nvrndingsmmr 3 года назад

      @@samringwald Here's a medal for being pedantic! Way to go, champ!

    • @samringwald
      @samringwald 3 года назад

      @@nvrndingsmmr THIS IS ALL I WANTED

  • @freemanvs9970
    @freemanvs9970 3 года назад +17

    I think American Girl in Silence of the Lambs is mint. A newly introduced character singing an upbeat but probably unknown to most is about loss of innocence right before being kidnapped as a result of naively being a Good samaritan and helping out a stranger and loosing her innocence. It both foreshadows what is about to happen to her while humanizing her to the audience who only just met her without being obvious about its intention because it’s one of those songs that feels happy and upbeat when it is actually a bit sad.

  • @patricktilden7720
    @patricktilden7720 3 года назад +22

    Loved the video, only needle drop that I kept waiting for you to bring up that you never did was the sexual assault scene from A Clockwork Orange. More uncomfortable than the Reservoir Dogs torture scene even, but also perfectly unnerving in that same way.

  • @maple_fields
    @maple_fields 3 года назад +34

    The needle drop that never fails to bring a smile to my face is the "You Make My Dreams Come True" scene in 500 Days of Summer.

  • @sebby97
    @sebby97 2 года назад +1

    In terms of "diegetic that becomes non-diegetic" I love "Swimming Pools" in uncut gems. It's playing when Howard argues with the Weekend, but when he punches him, the song gets louder and takes over the soundtrack. Very satisfying.

    • @daddygrasshopper
      @daddygrasshopper 8 месяцев назад +1

      Uncut Gems is underappreciated in many ways, and the music is definitely one of them

  • @zoeysheldon5634
    @zoeysheldon5634 Год назад +2

    I think Bad Reputation in Shrek is significantly better than the intro scene. It feels better to me because it has this super fun action that is complimented by a rock song about not caring what people think about you. It just feels right.

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark 11 месяцев назад

      Livin’ La vida loca works pretty well, too, I think.

  • @A_Oda27
    @A_Oda27 3 года назад +13

    complaining about patrick not including my favorite needle drop in order to boost it in the algorithm
    all hail the algorithm!
    curse you for not including ferris lip syncing to the beatles!

  • @PhilippeAllardRousse
    @PhilippeAllardRousse 3 года назад +7

    That needle drop at the end is so on point: "2NE1 - I'm the best"
    Me: Where is my mind -FC

  • @estebansgiron
    @estebansgiron 3 года назад +1

    Ok so the new intro is basically a James Bond anime opening but with Patrick on it....
    I LOVE IT!!

  • @theholk
    @theholk 3 года назад +3

    re: Flight of the valkyrie : Yes, that allusion to that scene in Apocalypse Now is the point there. It does visually too. The needledrop specifically is not communicating the intent of the music, but trying to hitch-hike Apocalypse Now into the viewers head. "prior exposure and connections" isn't just a danger. It's part of the toolset of needledrops. The danger is missjudging what the vast majority of the audience vividly connects to the song. But they regularly aren't just a way to smuggle in the prior existing art of the musician. They smuggle in al sorts of existing prior art by proxy and as shortcuts to the audience memory.
    "Do you really want them reminded of that scene in that other movie?" YES. You might want to. To either subtly or nonsubtly force either a shorthand, or contrapoint to what you are showing. Envoking Apocalypse now is a shorthand to what perspective you are putting on that assault by Dr.Manhatten. Namely "no, he isn't ACTUALLY cool and fighting for the good guys, this is the apocalypse now way of looking at that conflict, cool superbeing that he supposedly is aside".

  • @simondimock
    @simondimock 3 года назад +20

    Take a shot every time Patrick says, "We're going to talk about (blank) soon."

  • @collinsmith7078
    @collinsmith7078 3 года назад +29

    Just popping in to say that I was SO excited to see "A Real Hero" get a shoutout. And an A+ joke along with it.

  • @Tehdurkniht
    @Tehdurkniht 3 года назад +1

    As a fan of The Band, words cannot describe how much I appreciate your dad calling out how Levon Helm was shafted.

  • @PepperCoyotes
    @PepperCoyotes 3 года назад +8

    Oh my god Patrick I had just said OUT LOUD “what about All Star”
    The Digimon Movie though! It was in that!

    • @BrightBlueInk
      @BrightBlueInk 3 года назад

      Oh God I was thinking about the Digimon movie while he was talking about Shrek. I see we were both weebs growing up.
      Talk about a movie with a lot of weird needle drops...