Ganondorf Combos & Neutral Guide: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- This is a Beginners Guide to the King of Darkness himself, Ganondorf.
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0:00 - Introduction
1:22 - Mental Game
3:02 - Ground Attacks
7:21 - Smash Attacks
10:03 - Aerials
15:44 - Specials
22:18 - Throws
23:13 - Conclusion 
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NOTE: In light of the events that has transpired within the FGC, I am aware that the tech known as "RockCrocking" has been renamed to something else as the original name refers to an individual who has been identified as an abuser. I unfortunately recorded this guide before the events occurred, and thus was unable to change my script without delaying the guide. While I do use the term here, I just want everyone to know that I DO NOT support or condone RockCrock's actions, or any of those who were exposed. I stand with the victims, and I want to make that very clear.
What you talking bout? Searched this on google and bing and couldnt find anything about that meaning with multiple search terms and spellings. Just Smash and cooking recipes and a literal crockpot branded "Rockcrok". Where did this made up definition come from?
MewsDaBest you’re clearly near here then dude. shut up.
I think Fatality had a name or two for it. I personally like the Miller Griller
@@sc23_gaming5 tech check is dope too
@@JamesHarrison687 okay inform me then, wtf is your issue?
Using Ganon’s warlock punch isn’t about its viability.
It’s about sending a message.
This reference is elite
How do u do his like fire slam with his leg (I don’t know how to explain it)
@@stink5514 it’s his up-tilt attack.
How do you do an up tilt man
@@stink5514 hold up with your left analog stick, and press A. That should be the easiest way to do it.
Most neutral guide videos: frame data, matchups, kill confirms
This one: f e a r i s y o u r a l l y
(And only ally)
When Sakurai abandons you at the bottom of the tier list, *fear is your only ally.*
It makes sense his moves moveset seems like it was designed to thrive off of fear considering, you know, Ganon is the embodiment of evil.
“The only projectile Gannon has is fear”
The learning curve of Smash is absolutely insane, NotBae flattens that curve I think. May he blow up and educate us all.
How is it insane?
@@ConFlow247 You're probably a melee player lol.
Philip Keane no it really isn‘t insane compared to most fighting games, wuite the opposite actually
Son Pham really just depends on the fighting game
@@sonpham3438 Compared to most Fighting games I think smash is pretty hard. Hard combos are cool and all. But smash has soooooo much depth. With so much movement, neutral, and general game knowledge required to be good at the game. When you compare this to most fighting game's neural (just move back and forth and jumping.) You end up with a much more difficult game to play. Easy to learn very hard to master l
11:39 Intermediate tech: Ganons neutral air can hit tall opponents with both hits out of a short hop if you delay it slightly instead of buffering a short hop nair.
*SMASH 4 INTENSIFIES*
"Ganon is extra slow but extra powerful"
Incineroar: Those are rookie numbers buddy, you got to bump those numbers up.
Gamin Caimin Incineroar is the rookie bc Ganon’s been around since melee
@@ZikZak360 Incin and Ultimate Ganon have nothing to do with melee.
Yo can we just take a moment to recognise how fucking slow incineroar is even compared to thicc daddy ganon
Incin trades his even worse speed for combo and juggling potential though, not necessarily power.
@@lightofamphy6764 ganon has upair
NOTE: I obviously will continue to make Mewtwo content as that is the primary reason a majority of you are subscribed for. With that being said, I do want to try and expand my content out to guides/tutorials of other characters. This video took a very long time to make as I am not amazing with Ganon, and had to learn a lot of new things. But hopefully it worked out ok! Definitely feel free to leave a comment telling me what you thought of the video, since if this is something you guys enjoyed, I'm more than happy to provide more!
This is a really good vid.
This was really well done. While I mainly follow for Mewtwo, it would be awesome if you made guides like this for the roster (or as many as you feel comfortable).
Really good vid keep em coming
This guide is the first video of yours which I've seen. Looks like you have the ability to identify your audience's wants and demands. When you learn, adapt to, and then thoroughly interpret your acquired skill+knowledge in a way anyone can understand (this great video,) you show competence and promise. No doubt your future content will be worth our time to view and hopefully yours to create. Very long way of saying I like this guide and learned some new things. Expanding to other characters will also help grow and diversify your audience. The format of this guide is straightforward and works well for me, so don't deviate too far from it in future guides. You got my vote for expansion. Thank you for creating
Reading their option is where the concept of fear is introduced.
- Ganondorf, Book of War vol II
The inexperienced player may randomly do a downsmash. The opponent believes they were read..... Destruction Ensues
@@3headedsnake388 Amen
You forgot the most important use of aerial witzardkick:
The sweet sweet disrespec of a suicidal spike
I love how deep this video goes into Ganon‘s disadvantage state
I love the cinematic at the start of the video. Like the ganon vs link stuff at the start
Not Bae Ganon looking kinda clean
It feels good to know I've learned 99% of this all on my own. I just need utilize this stuff more effectively like all the rar combos. I think i just need a new controller
Sameeee i self-taught ganon through a bunch of CPU battles. Once you get his frames/timing memorized, he’s disgusting
I had to do a double take when I saw the title
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
First I gotta say, excellent video. It’s well organized, authentic and everything explained felt necessary. You should be super proud of this.
I’ve been playing ganon since melee, and he’s been my solo favorite character ever since (he’s my little “G tier to fear” 🥰). I’ve always wanted to make a ganon video, even have a long script of everything written out - and out of all the videos I’ve watched you really painted ganon with the realistic, but competent triforce of power wielder he is.
Stellar work man.
Ganon's Neutral Special abolishes all stocks taken by the opponent, does critical damage to opponent's morale and makes you win the match automatically regardless of the outcome.
The best part about playing Ganondorf is that just by picking the character you're already in their head, nobody wants to be the guy who loses to Ganondorf. The comment about the fear element of fighting Ganondorf is very much a reality and in all hoensty can probably end up being his greatest tool.
true, very true
They better give this man some buffs next patch...
One of the most detailed Ganon tutorials. Very nice and super video edit!
You could do a series of low tier guides I'd love to see that
Holy notbae goodness this is an amazing guide, you really know how to go out and explain. Keep it up!!!
Recently subbed for the Mewtwo and Cloud content since those are the characters I'm working on improving, and it looks like I picked the right time now that you've got a video out on my main. I learned a bunch from watching this and I appreciate that you get into the mental game when playing with/against Ganondorf--thanks for the good work!
Great guide. Picked up the two characters you made guides for and now it's Ganon's turn.
I don’t even main ganondorf, your videos are just so fun to watch that I enjoyed learning information I may never even need
Up smash while not as absurd as his smash 4 variant with TWO FRAMES OF END LAG, is still really safe when you hit with the back part of the move. It’s a pretty decent neutral tool as it doesn’t leave the opponent with much to challenge him with other than back peddling
Here’s my like and comment for the RUclips algorithm. Loved the Ganon guide, can’t wait to put some practice in on this wildcard pick and scrub my friends hahaha
The best ganon guide in entire RUclips,Im a ganon main and I apreciate this content :)
was not expecting this! I support you branching out to different content. Great video bro!
guides for my two favorite smash characters, Ganondorf and Mewtwo, you are AMAZING! thanks a lot for this
You absolutely blew my mind on the details you gave. Well done.
Really good production value and coverage of the most important Ganon stuff for this video. I would definitely recommend this video to anyone wanting to pick up Ganon!
What was the production value?
thanks for the guide, i will be saving this to a playlist to refer back to. im trying to get good with ganon, and im sure this guide is just what i need to get me in the right direction! :)
This was actually very useful, thank you for the tips
This is really well done. Great video!
Ganon is my favorite heavy so I'm glad you made this. I would love a video on your thoughts concerning how ganon could be made more viable in competitive. I feel like he needs changes (not necessarily a buff, it's a fine line), but I would like to hear your opinion on the subject.
He needs his OoT float, reflecting cape and/or energy ball from OoT. Adding just enough versatility to not be totally dead in the water in certain MUs, and take him further from being a Falcon echo.
@@austingoyne3039 a reflect would be pretty cool, I have fond memories of playing energy ball tennis with ganondorf in oot.
Great video man! Very thorough and informative 👍🏼
Seeing this ganon gameplay makes me happy :)
A fantastic compilation for all Ganon users, whether they be intermediate or advanced.
Thank you for this one!
Sincerely,
A Ganondorf Geek
I have been meaning gannon since smash brawl and I even learned some things from this good vid man
I'm nothing less than a personal legend when it comes to my Gannypoo, and so I like to watch all the tutorials on him. You have the best one, and I mean that mostly due to how you add enough meat on the theory of playing him and you handle it as cinematically as a video talking about the Gerudo Genocide, but mind you my Gannon plays differently than yours. I handle every kill with sobriety when I'm playing as him, just because I'd never want some stranger to think they're my first victim or something. It's also cool as all hell to see him standing perfectly still, but his animation cycle making him tremble just slightly as a formerly confident link is ko'd. Other than that, great job, definitely helped me, won't deny, so I'll help you with a word I've made up today, which is Ganxiety, which I apply to the buildup of fear and respect that stays with your opponents throughout the match/matches
Very nice guide!
I've watched a lot of Izaw, and I can tell you've drawn some inspiration from him. I realize he hasn't made an art of Ganon yet just because he wants to see if he'll get changed, so kudos to you for filling in that gap.
Exactly. It's like if you put an "ultimate" filter over izaw's smash 4 Ganondorf guide
Tbh is that actually why izaw isn't making an art of Ganondorf
I think ganon is a really balanced powerhouse and makes games against him fun as they can go either way
Great stuff as always, at this rate you'll pass 10k in no time!
I've been trying out ganon for about a year and this showed up on my recommended and I wanna say thank you cause imma start dominating my friends now.
This music is intense
I greatly enjoyed watching this
that pivot cancel looks cool tho, adds a bit of range to that already giant kick
i like how his tilt moves his hurtbox back a bit, it's so good for spacing grabs like this 4:11
Thanks man I’m training with gannondorf and you really helped
I struggle with the matchup as Mewtwo so much appreciated
Very good video, I would love if you made more!
No way dude this is so good
Hey Notbae! Love your vids, I've just picked up mewtwo and your Mewtwo tech has been super helpful. Could you do a ladder vid for DK? Lots of chances for hype plays
Another easy to understand video explaining how to own people with low tiers. Thank you NotBae.
Awesome video as always. Will we see a Ganondorf elite smash ladder grind?
Panos Goutz Yup! He won the vote in my most recent poll!
Great video
Amazing
Ganondorf took me 4 tries to unlock. The other 3, he absolutely SLAUGHTERED my characters! All the other characters took me no more than 2 tries.
Same I got this game at launch and Ganondorf was the only character that took me more than two attempts to unlock, shit made me mad considering I generally always either main him or keep him around.
19:13 the technicque its basically gone LESS GOOOO
MY MIND WAS BLOWN AWAY 20:07
Good video, btw dair can punish dash grabs and up smash can punish bad shield pressure and cross ups
That King K Rool crown throw to dair spike made me throw up in my mouth. I wasn’t ready for that disrespect!
That was the most generic thing you can do with the crown lmfao
5:58 That scream though. 🤣🤣🤣
Something to note that when Ganon flame chokes piranha plant. Jab covers ever options.
Izaw's Art of Ganon lol
it’s true, it’s almost identical ngl, and no credit
@@skiboutins let me elaborate, im not saying he's copying izaw, but the style and structure is very similar to his videos, it can't be a coincidence lol. But notbae still did a great job and I love this vid.
Tofu That’s fair. I expressed how I felt in another comment, and I essentially said that it’s not bad that he wants to sort of reuse that style and format, but i would suggest doing some stylistic changes to differentiate himself, especially if he plans to do more of them. Otherwise, him and Izaw would just be trading off making very similar vids about different characters.
Jab is quick and pretty strong. I don’t have much to say about it. You can use it and be pretty safe and you follow it up with a f tilt or down tilt or a side special depending on how your opponents reacts.
Forward tilt sends at a ridiculous angle at the ledge and is very powerful. If you space a Nair well on approach and hit shield, this is a good follow up option to mix in.
Up tilt is a good option at the ledge (sparingly). Not good against characters who can reach you with their get up attack. Breaks shield and you can be confident throwing it out very sparingly in neutral at opponents in shield who have a habit of rolling back or spot dodging, at least when spaced properly.
Down tilt has a lot of range and lowers your profile. Good option to follow a jab or forward tilt that connects on shield. Will help you either poke or possibly evade an out of shield option. Also is abused by most players after a successful side special to punish missed techs.
Nair is your best approach tool. It is very spammable, but still need good spacing. Can hit opponents behind your for some dumb reason. Nothing much else to say, it’s Ganondorfs best move.
Forward air is your kill air. Nair can kill too, but forward air is dumb powerful. Good for shield pressure too. The end lag is not so bad.
Back air is your kill air 2. Great for edge guarding opponents with vertical recoveries. Great for catching jump from ledge. Great at killing things.
Dair spikes and two frames at ledge. Spikes kill players.
Warlock punch is for memes and shield break punishes. Can be used for “hard” reads against opponents who do dumb things like air dodge onto stage or double jump fair from off stage like Ness.
Down special is best used when your opponent is retreating after getting hit by your nair, jab, or f tilt. Can be used to escape juggle, but has an eternity of end lag and opponents may have favorable trades with their anti air options. Do not enter a match and immediately use this. Do not use it in neutral when you are clearly in range, your opponents see that too. Good players will outspace you and punish you hard.
The better I got with this character, the more I came to appreciate side special. Players love to shield Ganondorfs approaches because they are easy to punish out of shield. Using side special makes them think twice. But it’s not enough to land it, you need to have a good follow up game. Watch what your opponents is doing. If they are rolling, I like to move in whatever direction comes to mind afterward. Either I’ll be in position to punish or I’ll reset neutral. If they don’t tech then down tilt. Short hop dair is a good option too. Get up attack you can shield and possibly grab out of shield. Side special is also good for tech chasing opponents landing on ground or platform. They will most likely shield on get up because Ganondorf is terrifying.
Up special is for recovery. Can be used out of shield, but I personally do not use this option. It can be used to edge guard, mostly to stage spike opponents. Can be used against opponents in the air if you have a good read for it. It can straight up kill if you do.
Down throw is good. Can follow up with nair for a true combo. Against heavier characters and some fast fallers you can follow up with a fair. You can also follow with up air for a true combo.
Back throw and forward throw are good for creating space and getting opponents off stage. Can create tech chase situations with these throws.
I never use up throw.
Ganondorf va sounds bizzare when voicing his wizard's kick. I mean, what even is that sound? X3
It sounds like someone aggressively yelling and taking a crap simultaneously
I needed this, sooooooo much, you don't understand how many times I get baired offstage by pika
15:12 Bruh, that is the nastiest disrespect against King K. Rool I've ever seen combo-ing him with his own crown twice before spiking him into oblivion! 💀
I felt that scream at 5:59
I think the only thing that stuck out to me was up tilt is decent if your opponent has a tendency to jump at ledge. The vortex can throw people off and catch them. I saw bloodynight use it a few times
I would really like you to do a similar video for either Donkey Kong or Bowser, as they are, along with Ganondorf, the only 3 characters I play :D
You can also use neutral B to punish people who get up attack out of flame choke
I don’t play Gabon, but I gotta show my support 💪🏼😤
It'd be cool if you could charge/cancel warlock punch to make it more useful. Best ganon guide hands down
So Donkey Kong’s neutral b pretty much then
@@TheNadroj10 You can't cancel it
@@supremeperson6866 you can charge it up and store it.
Fr, he needs more options. His Utilt should have a quicker light-input version, his aerial down-b should ledge cancel, and above all he needs another mobility option to *slightly* aid recovery offstage- obv his Ocarina of Time float. I think Nintendo could easily implement all of that in a balanced way.
Wtf u made a video on ganon? This is a surprise
Can you make a Donkey Kong guide? Or a greninja or king k rool guide?
I love notbae
Weird idea what if flame choke could catch some projectiles and use it like an item. So for Links arrows boomerangs and bombs while in the air could all be caught by it. But any energy based projectiles like fox or ness fire cant be caught.
I plan to use what I learned here against my friends tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes.
How did it go?
@@Smanson1321 I got my ass beat but I did manage to take out a life or two from each one.
self note: late hit dash attack for confirms, hold down while recovering to avoid the ledge
This is first video I’ve seen that talked about Ganon’s reverse up air. The angle it sends is nasty!
I know its a beginner's guide but you missed some key points.
Aerial flame choke: you can get guranteed followups when landed on a platform such as BF. This is limited to big body characters such as Ridley but others apply as well.
Dark Dive: With enough shield conditioning, you can utilize this command grab against a cornered enemy that decides to shield at the ledge. So long as the enemy isn't a small character like pikachu/pichu, this option should work when you have the read.
I like this channel.
I also liked my own comment... but from a guy named fuck you what do you expect:)
Seems like some inspiration form IzAw
Very much so. I think he should either give credit or acknowledge it because the style, format and even dialogue is crazy similar to Izaws smash 4 ganon guide
Ganon can either be really hype, or if can be lame by SDing all the time. I really like ganondorf because he’s fun to fight and play
I actually prefer NotBae to Izaw. Keep up the good work!
As a ganon guy. A falcon knocked me into the top blast zone and I was staying up there for a bit with my double jump. The falcon was blood thirsty and spamming u-air at me. I went up and down special’d, causing a fatal stage spike for the greedy bird.
I just wanna play Smash again. My main two Smash bros moved out of town and have also started playing project plus instead.
Como main Gannon aprendí mucho, gracias. :) :*
if ganon had just a little bit more movement speed.. he would be soo fucking good
Art of Ganon
Thanks bro now imma become a god
Another use of aerial wizard foot is potential shield breaks
This is giving me izaw smash 4 Ganondorf guide vibes
One of my friends has given me severe ptsd from how he plays ganon and that is now the only matchup I practice
Bro was dominating on some fools
you should do incineroar next!
6:50 it also combos into up b
I'm sorry to bring the drama stuff into here and I don't wanna be that guy, but the Ganon/Falcon community decided to rename the RockCrock since he was exposed as an abusor.
Most popular choice seems to be "TechCheck", or even the "MillerGriller", but Fatality doesn't like the last one for obvious reasons.
yeah, I noticed that. Unfortunately, I made my script and recorded everything just before the smash drama hit, and thus was not able to make changes without significantly warping what I say. I personally don't have a problem with calling "RockCrocking" that tech as I personally don't connect it with the player, but I understand that people do, and is something I should've changed.
GenophefeElisabeth
techcheck is a pretty nice actually. millergriller is still witty though 😂
@@NotBae I'm with you on that boat, I don't mind the name, but I thought I might add this since I saw some people getting emotional about this on other videos. I don't blame you on anything, sorry if it sounded that way. Great video btw., as always ;)
tech check sounds way better