Another wonderful Sophie production! I loved the "closest to the pin" shootout. It clearly illustrates the difference in carry and shows the amount of release. Awesome video Sophie
My fitting Tuesday I got the G430 Irons with the Alta quick 45 shaft loved these irons consistent with a slight draw.They are great looking clubs. I'm 70 years old.
@@scotthucks7966 I love the shafts I was fitted for them. Love the clubs! I'm finding they are much longer , where I would be hitting a 7 iron I'm finding I'm hitting a 9 iron instead.
I have the G425 set! I don’t like the looks of this! Wish they would have put Ping in that black area! The performance is impressive though. Thanks Sophie
Nothing is as clunky as my Bazooka 470 irons! (Getting a Ping fitting this month) Also, this is the best review I've seen of the g430s; very nicely done!
Great review Sophie. I’m definitely going to try the G430 irons out. I was going to buy the previous model when they came out but pandemic supply issues kept delaying them which put me off.
Imho I played the 425 for last year and they were ok but now fitted for Mizuno Jpx 923 pro which are great. Off subject of irons, the Ping wedges are way underrated. I would play glide over Vokey.
Loved your review Sophie on the new Pings…I was looking to upgrade from my 425 irons to the 430 irons…I’m a Ping guy and was looking at other models due to the yardage that they give, but I’m sure now after seeing your review that I will be getting the new 430 irons…keep up the great work…
Hi Sophie! I like your videos a lot, especially those club review and test videos because my swing speed (even most launch condition) is very close to yours. I guess, many average-swing-speed amateur golfers may share my opinion. However, I would very much appreciate if you could always mark clearly a few very important aspects during your reviews. These include your club data (clubhead speed etc.), shaft specs, and exact club loft. It does not mean much to say 'this 7 iron is xx yards longer than another 7 iron' without loft, shaft spec and club data. Your reviews could be much more valuable to your audience if you could share those critical data.
Good looking yes except for the Ping trademark cut in the hosel which completely spoils the visual appeal of their irons. Dont quite understand the point of it which no other brand uses.
Thanks Sophie. Bottom line is that they altered the loft and CG to get more speed but retain launch. The trade-off was the loss of a little bit of spin. They still look like hockey sticks to me, with that long heel to toe distance. Probably a good club for the player that needs distance but has trouble losing the ball to the right (for a RH golfer).
Hi Sophie, I am looking towards the Wilson d9 forged...I am around your clubheadspeed (but not your ball striking !). Would you go for graphite or steel ? thanks for your great reviews
Brilliant video and as always ping don’t go over the top with new club claims like majority of other brands, they said what it did again. Brilliant brand specially there woods. Would love to see a head to head with the g430 irons v Stealth irons
Great review Sophie and look like great irons. I’ve got T300 currently and very happy with them, but will out of interest test the G430, Stealth 2, Cobra Aerojet, probably not Callaway as more expensive.
Your videos are great. Thank you Sophie. I am curious how you think my g710’s would stack up against the g430’s in terms of accuracy, dispersion and mishits?
Great video...I have the G425s now but that "extra" wedge has me thinking so what club I have to eliminate to compensate for this new gapping? IMHO they should have just relabeled the 6 to a 5 and so forth...not sure if I have to get rid of my 5i or what if the 6 is basically a 5.5 iron.
Agree - I also have the G425’s and would be much more interested in these if they hadn’t added the second wedge between the PW and 50°. I like my current gapping/bag setup, so I will either stick with my G425’s or maybe try the i525’s. I think the i525 lofts are all within 0.5° of the G425’s.
Another good review. Well done Ping for showing integrity with their equipment releases. Taking thier time to make actual improvements. TM seem to want to have something new on the shelves every other week. After watching reviews on the Stealth 2 there are minimim improvements. Last years looked better I thought. Its these bold claims that make you feel the club you've had for 10 mins is now useless. I just feel this agressive sales technique is unjust. Take your time and bring something out when you can really substantiate claims.
I went back and forth between these two irons, The good hits were comparable, but the miss hits the Ping was better. Since i am no pro, i purchased the Pings and couldn't be more happy.
Evening Paul, I'm initially looking at 5-PW. I have 49.5, 54, and 58 degree wedges, and I recently bought a cheap Vega 46 degree wedge. So, hopefully, that will plug the gap.
Great review. In the written review what did you mean by “hard to move thru the air”? Large so more air resistance? I am gravitating towards the i230 (or Mizuno Pro 223) due to the size and turf interaction you get with a players cavity iron.
these vs apex dcb? guess ping had to go to taylor made "distance sells", too bad but understand... Id LOVE forgiveness of G430 WITH feel and distance control of my old i210s...dream iron.
But with less spin on that 6 iron does that mean the ball will run out more when hitting the green? If yes then that is not good. You want the ball to stop when hitting the green correct? Thx
Yet again a really informative video. I have a HI of 14.9 and play Ping i200. I'm looking to upgrade and have my eye on the i230 irons. Do you consider these to be a better club than the i230s?
Hi Sophie, is it possible for you to consider a review of Mizuno JPX Hot Metal 923, especially comparing the Pro version and HL version with similarly-lofted clubs (e.g. HM Pro #7 vs HM HL #6)? Or comparing HM 923 with HM 919 with similar-loft clubs?
Great review... as always getting the honest facts and feelings. No I don't know the history of club making and the standard lofts... but surely these days nearly every set off the shelf is stronger and non standard. Couldn't say Titleist, Mizuno or Ben Hogan reproduce a classic players iron and just change the numbers to make people feel like they are hitting it further 🤦
The manufacturers list the lofts and they are easily checked. It’s not something you can fudge. Every manufacturer has different standards for what loft their irons are, but they’re all published
Thanks for your vid. I like Ping, but I’ve always felt that Ping lacks something in their line up. The gap is too large between the G400/700 series versus the i200/500 series. The G400/700 series has too much offset, too thick a top line, and too large a face. The i200/500 series is just a smidge too small, especially in the longer irons. They have nothing in the sweet spot occupied by Apex, P790, ZX5, etc.
Manufacturers assign a name to their individual irons, but for the G430 irons they are closer to one iron less, so PW is really more a 9 iron, etc. Just a name or number on the bottom of the club.
@@darunia484 golfers should build their WITB by good gapping from their longest approach club through to their most lofted wedge. The number on the bottom of the club does not matter. One well known pro golfer has two clubs with the same number in his bag because they carry different distances and have different height trajectories.
You will end up with a 48 degree gap wedge which is a pitching wedge then two more wedges but probably end at a five iron as the 4 will be too strong lofted for most players to get anything out of.
I would think you would be getting at least a 3 yd gain with the stronger loft. So the gain is really loft? I know you play the i525 would you consider these instead? Could you blend them (or would gapping be a problem)? Really find your videos helpful. My swing speed and distances are about the same as yours. I was looking at the i525 but concerned with the amount of bounce on the scoring irons. 13 seems like a lot considering my misses tend to be thin shots. Any suggestions? Thx, Ric
I like the four degree loft gapping at the wedge end of the set, but not the 13° and 14° bounce. May be difficult to use on tight lies and hard fairways.
So as a golfer they have made lofts 1* stronger. Gained 4 yds ,slightly decreased backspin by a negligible amount ,lowered spin by .3 degree . Please someone find an older club head of the identical loft put the same shaft in and put it on a robot to hit. Then we find out the improvements made not by just increasing loft. I am sceptical of the claims v reality
Nothing has changed in irons in years. It's almost all hype. Here are the major changes in irons over the past 55 years: -- Cast clubs with perimeter weighting (Ping) -- Oversized irons (Callaway) -- Perimeter-weighted forged (Hogan) -- Hollow heads and multiple-metal (many) -- CG moved throughout the set (many) -- Single-length (A few; Wishon is my favorite) That's it. Everything else is incremental. Do you want desperately to hit your 8-iron 10 yards longer? No problem. Hit the 7.
Need the ball not to run out! Would be very frustrating if your shot hits the green and runs out / off the green. Need confidence and consistency that your shot will stop after hitting the green. You agree?
These new power bats just scare the shit out of me, as I am a highball hitter with pretty good spin with my old Adams irons, and they play well in the Kansas winds I play in as the SPIN helps keep my ball online!!! But these NO BALL SPINNING irons with some Kansas wind, I see the ball flying all over the place with NO CONTROL and the ball dropping out of the sky with no spin running anywhere but where you want the ball to go !!! Everyone chasing the fake extra distance BULLCRAP, all you are doing is hitting a stronger lofted iron with a HIGHER NUMBER stamped on it to make your ego THINK you are hitting it longer ......LOL
I can hit my G15 6-iron 150 yards, and I haven't spent $1200 dollars......Thanks Sophie. Honestly people, these golf companies are just used car salesmen. The USGA and the R&A set their latest specs on what is allowed when designing golf clubs around 2005. I'll continue to hit a 6-iron instead of a jacked-up lofted 7-iron and save my money.
You club speed with g430 is HIGHER!!!!! Are they the same lofts, or the g430 have lower lofts resulting in different distance????????? You used to be so impartial.
G430 has stronger lofts than I525 which accounts for some of the distance gain. Many reviewers have business or sponsorship connections with certain manufacturers.
Why do most of you fan boys compliment and fawn over Sophie instead of commenting on the equipment she is reviewing. Go join a dating app you love lost lemmings.
Another wonderful Sophie production! I loved the "closest to the pin" shootout. It clearly illustrates the difference in carry and shows the amount of release. Awesome video Sophie
Thanks Robert - glad you liked it. Had to get creative when the courses are closed in England with terrible weather
My fitting Tuesday I got the G430 Irons with the Alta quick 45 shaft loved these irons consistent with a slight draw.They are great looking clubs. I'm 70 years old.
Just got mine with the regular steel. Be interested in how the alta quick 45 works out for you. I am 73 years old by the way.
@@scotthucks7966 I love the shafts I was fitted for them. Love the clubs! I'm finding they are much longer , where I would be hitting a 7 iron I'm finding I'm hitting a 9 iron instead.
Well done, Sophie. Very thorough and real world without regurgitation of marketing hype.
Thanks John
Amen
Hi Sophie no one out there does a better job than you when it comes to an in-depth review big fan thank you
Very high praise Tommy! Thanks for getting in touch and sharing your thoughts
Many thanks, Sophie, that was the most comprehensive review of the G430 that I have seen, well done👍👍
Thanks for sharing that with us - great to hear!
I have the G425 set! I don’t like the looks of this! Wish they would have put Ping in that black area! The performance is impressive though. Thanks Sophie
Amazing review - Love Sophie's reviews, detailed and delivered perfect. Thanks Sophie.
Just joined your channel after a previous review. Love you content and approach.
Keep it going!
Knocked this one out of the park, Sophie! Well done.
Nothing is as clunky as my Bazooka 470 irons! (Getting a Ping fitting this month) Also, this is the best review I've seen of the g430s; very nicely done!
Great review Sophie. I’m definitely going to try the G430 irons out. I was going to buy the previous model when they came out but pandemic supply issues kept delaying them which put me off.
Thanks Sophie! I just received my Forged Tec X irons, absolutely loving them... But with all of these new releases im getting buyers remorse lol!
The golf equipment industry can be cruel for that - stick to what you have just bought and enjoy them!
Imho I played the 425 for last year and they were ok but now fitted for Mizuno Jpx 923 pro which are great. Off subject of irons, the Ping wedges are way underrated. I would play glide over Vokey.
Loved your review Sophie on the new Pings…I was looking to upgrade from my 425 irons to the 430 irons…I’m a Ping guy and was looking at other models due to the yardage that they give, but I’m sure now after seeing your review that I will be getting the new 430 irons…keep up the great work…
Great stuff Derb, thanks for getting in touch
Great review Sophie! Very helpful!
I can’t wait to get 45 degree thru 8 iron and 7, 6, 5 hybrids!
Excellent comparison test. I thoroughly enjoy your reviews - to the point and focused.
Thanks Chester, that's what we aim for - to give you the best information to help with purchasing.
Hi Sophie! I like your videos a lot, especially those club review and test videos because my swing speed (even most launch condition) is very close to yours. I guess, many average-swing-speed amateur golfers may share my opinion. However, I would very much appreciate if you could always mark clearly a few very important aspects during your reviews. These include your club data (clubhead speed etc.), shaft specs, and exact club loft. It does not mean much to say 'this 7 iron is xx yards longer than another 7 iron' without loft, shaft spec and club data. Your reviews could be much more valuable to your audience if you could share those critical data.
Ping has done a great job creating a good looking game improvement iron! Sounds very good too with that thud!
Good looking yes except for the Ping trademark cut in the hosel which completely spoils the visual appeal of their irons. Dont quite understand the point of it which no other brand uses.
@@radam2818 it’s so they can use the weight saved on other parts of the body
@@pauldronfield5248 yes, but they have to find other ways of doing it; it's getting worse in each new model.
@@radam2818 I think it also allows them to bend loft and lie more easily, as these clubs are cast (more brittle) rather than forged.
Best looking of all the iron releases this month
Thanks for getting in touch Barry - I think they will divide opinion but I do like them
Thanks Sophie. Bottom line is that they altered the loft and CG to get more speed but retain launch. The trade-off was the loss of a little bit of spin. They still look like hockey sticks to me, with that long heel to toe distance. Probably a good club for the player that needs distance but has trouble losing the ball to the right (for a RH golfer).
Yes these clubs are aimed at the golfer who struggles to generate a high swing speed.
The G430 head only 1/4 inch longer than the i230 clown. 😀
Hi Sophie, I am looking towards the Wilson d9 forged...I am around your clubheadspeed (but not your ball striking !). Would you go for graphite or steel ? thanks for your great reviews
I think that graphite shafts are always a better option for amateur golfers for that extra bit of forgiveness. They are more expensive though...
Extremely well done review 👍🏻
Thanks for your feedback Daniel - great to hear from you!
Very good review. Great presentation and description of new clubs. 👏
Thanks Iain - much appreciated
Brilliant video and as always ping don’t go over the top with new club claims like majority of other brands, they said what it did again. Brilliant brand specially there woods.
Would love to see a head to head with the g430 irons v Stealth irons
At the end of season (2022) I bought the Ping 710s how do these compare to the 430s I believe they are more forgiving? How are they different?
Great review of the Ping G430 irons. They look good down by the ball and hit well.
Thanks for getting in touch with your feedback Tom!
Great review Sophie and look like great irons. I’ve got T300 currently and very happy with them, but will out of interest test the G430, Stealth 2,
Cobra Aerojet, probably not Callaway as more expensive.
Good idea - always worth keeping your ear to the ground and seeing what's out there to help improve your game.
@@GolfalotTV indeed and of course Wilson will have something and at a decent price!
Your videos are great. Thank you Sophie. I am curious how you think my g710’s would stack up against the g430’s in terms of accuracy, dispersion and mishits?
Great review Sophie can you tell me if you will be doing a review on the HL version please
Great video...I have the G425s now but that "extra" wedge has me thinking so what club I have to eliminate to compensate for this new gapping? IMHO they should have just relabeled the 6 to a 5 and so forth...not sure if I have to get rid of my 5i or what if the 6 is basically a 5.5 iron.
Agree - I also have the G425’s and would be much more interested in these if they hadn’t added the second wedge between the PW and 50°. I like my current gapping/bag setup, so I will either stick with my G425’s or maybe try the i525’s. I think the i525 lofts are all within 0.5° of the G425’s.
Thanks Sophie
Another good review. Well done Ping for showing integrity with their equipment releases. Taking thier time to make actual improvements. TM seem to want to have something new on the shelves every other week. After watching reviews on the Stealth 2 there are minimim improvements. Last years looked better I thought. Its these bold claims that make you feel the club you've had for 10 mins is now useless. I just feel this agressive sales technique is unjust. Take your time and bring something out when you can really substantiate claims.
Thanks for your thoughts James - much appreciated
I went back and forth between these two irons, The good hits were comparable, but the miss hits the Ping was better. Since i am no pro, i purchased the Pings and couldn't be more happy.
Great review. I'm getting fitted for them next week.
It will be interesting to hear what wedge lofts you decide upon
Evening Paul, I'm initially looking at 5-PW. I have 49.5, 54, and 58 degree wedges, and I recently bought a cheap Vega 46 degree wedge. So, hopefully, that will plug the gap.
@@mickturner8727 thanks Mick
Great stuff Mick - enjoy your fitting and new irons!
Sophie you got skills !👌
It would be good to show a comparison with the new Callaway Paradym irons. Thx, Ric
The two irons are in different categories really so probably aimed at different types of golfers.
Great review. In the written review what did you mean by “hard to move thru the air”? Large so more air resistance? I am gravitating towards the i230 (or Mizuno Pro 223) due to the size and turf interaction you get with a players cavity iron.
these vs apex dcb? guess ping had to go to taylor made "distance sells", too bad but understand... Id LOVE forgiveness of G430 WITH feel and distance control of my old i210s...dream iron.
But with less spin on that 6 iron does that mean the ball will run out more when hitting the green? If yes then that is not good. You want the ball to stop when hitting the green correct? Thx
Yet again a really informative video. I have a HI of 14.9 and play Ping i200. I'm looking to upgrade and have my eye on the i230 irons. Do you consider these to be a better club than the i230s?
Hi Keith, the G430 and i230 are aimed at different types of golfers, the chances are you would be one or the other.
Hi Sophie, is it possible for you to consider a review of Mizuno JPX Hot Metal 923, especially comparing the Pro version and HL version with similarly-lofted clubs (e.g. HM Pro #7 vs HM HL #6)? Or comparing HM 923 with HM 919 with similar-loft clubs?
HEY SOPHIE, WHICH CLUB DO YOU THINK IS EASIER TO HIT AND MORE FORGIVING, THE PARADYM X OR THE G430'S?
Did anyone see the landing angle of the 7 irons? I’d like to know what that was as well.
If you put extra weight in the toe shouldn't club be more fade biased?
Loved the review…I love pings but unfortunately there is no way I can afford these new pings….way out of my price range….well done though.
Good review nice information 👍
Thanks David
Great review... as always getting the honest facts and feelings. No I don't know the history of club making and the standard lofts... but surely these days nearly every set off the shelf is stronger and non standard. Couldn't say Titleist, Mizuno or Ben Hogan reproduce a classic players iron and just change the numbers to make people feel like they are hitting it further 🤦
The manufacturers list the lofts and they are easily checked. It’s not something you can fudge. Every manufacturer has different standards for what loft their irons are, but they’re all published
Thanks Captain Obvious. 😀
I wonder how much longer they are compared to my Ping Zing 2's?
Always found the heads on the g range really heavy and have struggled to get a shaft to accompany the heads, maybe just me?
Get it in retro fit at 31 degree 7 iron. Spin will go up and landing angle will increase
What is the weight and flex of the shaft?
Was dispersion better with the G425 6 iron (red dots?)
I am getting a 430 …7 iron. Let me see the difference with the GMAX irons
Thanks for your vid. I like Ping, but I’ve always felt that Ping lacks something in their line up. The gap is too large between the G400/700 series versus the i200/500 series. The G400/700 series has too much offset, too thick a top line, and too large a face. The i200/500 series is just a smidge too small, especially in the longer irons. They have nothing in the sweet spot occupied by Apex, P790, ZX5, etc.
23 hcp 3 deg upright graphite shaft +0.5 in length +1/32 grip. Is there anything better than this?
Have you tested Ping's hybrids yet?
Looks to me like a graphite shaft for the G430 and a steel with the G425.
Excellent!
On day we'll have a 9 iron with the loft of a 4 iron and 9 wedges...
Do a comparison with your i525’s
Different categories of club but it would be an interesting comparison
Can't see we just say they are just 4 yds longer on average? ...and LW to 6 iron. All good?
How is a PW 41 degrees?
Do you think you could play the G430s? How about a head to head vs your i525s?
I wonder if she gets better stopping power with the i525s
@@darunia484 possibly, or better distance control?
The pw is 41° forty one degrees! the 425 was 44.5° that's ridiculous
Manufacturers assign a name to their individual irons, but for the G430 irons they are closer to one iron less, so PW is really more a 9 iron, etc. Just a name or number on the bottom of the club.
@@zazhou the difference is that we have one more "wedge" length of club. not sure how that much that matters.
@@darunia484 golfers should build their WITB by good gapping from their longest approach club through to their most lofted wedge. The number on the bottom of the club does not matter. One well known pro golfer has two clubs with the same number in his bag because they carry different distances and have different height trajectories.
You will end up with a 48 degree gap wedge which is a pitching wedge then two more wedges but probably end at a five iron as the 4 will be too strong lofted for most players to get anything out of.
I have no issues with stronger lofts through the set but they shouldn't be so strong at the wedge end. 41 is stupid, you now need 2 gap wedges.
I would think you would be getting at least a 3 yd gain with the stronger loft. So the gain is really loft? I know you play the i525 would you consider these instead? Could you blend them (or would gapping be a problem)? Really find your videos helpful. My swing speed and distances are about the same as yours. I was looking at the i525 but concerned with the amount of bounce on the scoring irons. 13 seems like a lot considering my misses tend to be thin shots. Any suggestions? Thx, Ric
There does appear to be some gain but at the expense of slightly lower spin/holding greens which might not be worth it (depending on your swing speed)
I like the four degree loft gapping at the wedge end of the set, but not the 13° and 14° bounce. May be difficult to use on tight lies and hard fairways.
@@zazhou I agree and they need an extra wedge. I play in Spain so the high bounce makes these winter only irons.
Italicized spin :( Please Sophie. These need to be measured spin rather than estimated.
Following your outstanding review 3 years ago I bought a set of G710 irons which I’m delighted with , how do the G430’s compare to those irons ?
I am a Ping fan but not a big fan of the looks of these clubs.
So basically…. 425 is now much cheaper now so great purchase. Find used and enjoy your game 👍
Lower height... and lower spin..lower loft...than the G425 there's your extra distance.
Very comparable with i525
Hope they're lighter than the G425's - they felt like rocks on sticks
So as a golfer they have made lofts 1* stronger. Gained 4 yds ,slightly decreased backspin by a negligible amount ,lowered spin by .3 degree . Please someone find an older club head of the identical loft put the same shaft in and put it on a robot to hit. Then we find out the improvements made not by just increasing loft. I am sceptical of the claims v reality
Nothing has changed in irons in years. It's almost all hype. Here are the major changes in irons over the past 55 years:
-- Cast clubs with perimeter weighting (Ping)
-- Oversized irons (Callaway)
-- Perimeter-weighted forged (Hogan)
-- Hollow heads and multiple-metal (many)
-- CG moved throughout the set (many)
-- Single-length (A few; Wishon is my favorite)
That's it. Everything else is incremental.
Do you want desperately to hit your 8-iron 10 yards longer? No problem. Hit the 7.
Need the ball not to run out! Would be very frustrating if your shot hits the green and runs out / off the green. Need confidence and consistency that your shot will stop after hitting the green. You agree?
The big black rubber badge yuk, looks aweful
These new power bats just scare the shit out of me, as I am a highball hitter with pretty good spin with my old Adams irons, and they play well in the Kansas winds I play in as the SPIN helps keep my ball online!!!
But these NO BALL SPINNING irons with some Kansas wind, I see the ball flying all over the place with NO CONTROL and the ball dropping out of the sky with no spin running anywhere but where you want the ball to go !!!
Everyone chasing the fake extra distance BULLCRAP, all you are doing is hitting a stronger lofted iron with a HIGHER NUMBER stamped on it to make your ego THINK you are hitting it longer ......LOL
4 degrees stronger than my i210s
I can hit my G15 6-iron 150 yards, and I haven't spent $1200 dollars......Thanks Sophie. Honestly people, these golf companies are just used car salesmen. The USGA and the R&A set their latest specs on what is allowed when designing golf clubs around 2005. I'll continue to hit a 6-iron instead of a jacked-up lofted 7-iron and save my money.
You club speed with g430 is HIGHER!!!!!
Are they the same lofts, or the g430 have lower lofts resulting in different distance?????????
You used to be so impartial.
G430 has stronger lofts than I525 which accounts for some of the distance gain. Many reviewers have business or sponsorship connections with certain manufacturers.
Why do most of you fan boys compliment and fawn over Sophie instead of commenting on the equipment she is reviewing. Go join a dating app you love lost lemmings.