Can we see some videos with this press making tumblers with solid dark / black backgrounds?? Patterns like this with white backgrounds are fairly easy to do even with cheap tumbler presses. Getting good, consistent transfer on solid dark colored backgrounds is the real test. There are thousands of great patterns out there with backgrounds like this, but they are VERY difficult to get good results out of with other presses or in the convection ovens.
Thanks! It does help a lot that these particular tumblers (ORCA) have very straight edges on top & bottom. Some other tumblers with rounded or tapered tops & bottom tend to give more problems when pressing. heat.press/20oztumb heat.press/16oztumb
Omg thank you so much. I have been watching videos to see how I can get smooth seams and edges. Some were saying air pockets others said to put more pressure and tape. None of that was working but your video was easy and thanks to you I perfected my tumblers.
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Can you show us a full rotation of the top, the bottom, and the seam? Pressing the tumbler is easy. Mastering these three areas is what you need to teach people. Cheers.
Fast forward to 36:38 on this replay of our livestream episode on tumblers: ruclips.net/video/K2B8TE-zbF0/видео.html You'll see where we show the whole tumbler - top, bottom, and seam.
Go to 7:02 on this video to see how to adjust pressure for tumblers: ruclips.net/video/hiyRH3GL23c/видео.htmlsi=X8ERRMB0HMNYWnMV&t=421 It's on a similar machine, but the process is the same. (We don't usually use the front pressure adjustment knobs for tumblers.)
Just got my tumbler press in the mail today, got my first tumbler done and it's perfect! The only problem I have is the alarm didn't count down with the tumbler inside of it, do you think that I have it set to tight? It will count down and ring if I have nothing in it lol. 😆
Hi there! Yes, it most likely is too much pressure causing for the magnets that set off the timer to not align. If you continue experiencing issues, please give our technical support team a ring :)
Hi there! Please email our support team and they will be able to send you directions based on your press model. You may reach them at support@heatpressnation.com :)
When using a mug press, there is no need for a heat shrink sleeve. This is because the pressure is being applied by the press. In this video I used the HPN Signature Series Mug Press with Tumbler Attachment loaded. You can find this product here: www.heatpressnation.com/products/hpn-signature-series-2-in-1-automated-sublimation-mug-heat-press I also used the 20oz ORCA Sublimation Tumbler: www.heatpressnation.com/products/20-oz-orca-white-stainless-steel-skinny-sublimation-tumbler-24-per-case?_pos=1&_sid=3234acf93&_ss=r
I keep getting tape marks after sublimating ..like you can see the outline where I had the tape …I tried wiping with water and it’s still doesn’t go away? How can I avoid this ..I lost a lot of tumblers trying
Thanks for the tutorial. What paper can I use with the Crio 8432 WDT that will give a glossy finish like sublimation? and what would the temp and time be.
We have two hard surface papers for white toner printers, Forever Multi-Trans and TheMagicTouch CPM 6.2. Both will work great and give a semi-glossy finish. We have videos for them on our channel, but you can find the products on our website - www.heatpressnation.com/collections/white-toner-media
We have templates available for most of our sublimation tumblers available for download on our site. Just click on the tumbler you want and there should be a "download template" link in the product description. This will allow you to create your own transfers in Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.
As of right now, the attachment is only available with the mug press bundles. However, we will have them available individually in the very near future!
How can I tell (using a tumbler press) if I'm using too much pressure or too high heat? I'm getting inconsistent results with part of the sublimated tumbler feeling rough and faint print and other parts looking shiny, bright, and perfect. Currently using 350-degrees for 110 seconds on white skinny tumblers.
Hi there! You want to use light pressure with tumblers. The press should be able to simply close without having to use any physical force. As for the time and temp, we recommend 365 x 60 seconds, rotating the tumbler and pressing it again for 65 seconds.
If you go to the product on our website (link in description or heat.press/20oztumb), look in the description for a link to download the PDF template. It will work best in Photoshop, but you can use it in other graphic design software.
I have a couple of questions what paper do we need to Do sublimations on tumblers and mugs? Also what programs do you use or are available to do the lay out fornthe tumblers and mugs ? New to this. And I just got my heatpress nation 7 in 1 mug press .
In this video we used TexPrint DT Light Sublimation Paper, printed with our Sawgrass SG1000 Sublimation printer. We used Adobe Photoshop to create and edit the template used for this tumbler. TexPrint DT Light - heat.press/dtlight Sawgrass SG1000 - heat.press/sg1000kit
This press will do 30oz skinny tumblers as well? Doesn't look like the heating element is long enough based on this video since they are longer / taller than the 20oz. Usually the last 1 inch on each end of the heating elements have significant heat drop as there are no coils, so I'm curious to see a 30oz done in this press before ordering.
This attachment has been tested to work with tumblers measuring approximately 7.75” tall with a 2.75” diameter (16oz) all the way up to 9.5" tall with a 3.125" diameter (30oz). If your straight-wall tumbler fits within that range, it will work just fine. We have a video in the works to show the process for a 30oz tumbler, but no word yet on when that will be released.
For a 30 oz tumbler, we found that you can keep the same temp (365ºF), but you have to rotate the tumbler 2 times. - Press for 60 seconds - Rotate 1/3 - Press for 60 seconds - Rotate another 1/3 - Final press for 60 seconds.
Sorry, might have missed it but did you explain why you rotated and heated again? Is this a normal thing to do? Also, I have seen in several videos where you say, "cool for several moments." Is that 30 seconds, cool to the touch, minutes, etc.? Is there such a thing as letting it cool for too long while you are preparing another tumbler or mug? Thanks.
Yes, if it is a full transfer, then you must rotate and re-press as there is about an inch opening on the top. We recommend peeling until it is cool to the touch. No such thing as too long :)
We haven't really seen the need for blowout paper when using a mug/tumbler press. We never use it in any of our demos or testing and have yet to experience any issues. (We always use it when pressing flat items in a regular heat press.)
@@HeatPressNation Thanks! That helps a lot! Lately, though, I have been experiencing some “tape marks” from the tape I place on the seam. It doesn’t cause a color change or ghosting, but you can see the tape lines in the light. Too much pressure? Too hot? Wrong type of heat tape? Suggestions?
I am waiting on my tumbler attachment to come but I got my press and pressed 3 tumblers with the mug press. It is smoking with all 3 presses I've done. Any idea why?? Heat is at 350 and I've pressed it for only 30 seconds
When sublimation ink is heated, it turns into a gas dye. Sometimes that gas seeps out. If there is any moisture in the paper, that will also evaporate. Unless there is a noticeable burnt smell, that "smoking" is normal.
Pressure on most mug presses will be set by fee. You should feel slight resistance when closing the press, but it should not be difficult. If you have to press hard to close it, then it's too much.
Yes, individual attachments will be available for separate purchase soon! To get the latest updates, follow us on Facebook or sign up for our email newsletter at www.heatpressnation.com.
Is butcher paper not necessary? Bc when I press with it, the ink transfers onto it. I’m worried the ink will get on the attachment if I DONT use butcher paper and then cause that ink to go onto the next thing I press
If your setup requires you to use protective paper, go for it. You always want to do what's best for your specific situation. We do recommend using parchment paper over butcher paper for sublimation, since parchment can withstand higher temperatures. (We use Sawgrass ink and TexPrint DT sublimation paper and haven't found the need to use any extra paper when sublimating mugs and tumblers.)
@@HeatPressNation I don’t think I’ve seen anywhere stating to use any type of protection besides on apparel but just was worried it would bleed to the heat press attachment. And transfer to the next. I see a lot of ppl not using protection so I was just curious. And thanks for the extra tip about butcher and parchment
does the ink need to dry before i make cuts and place on tumbler? I'm new and noticed ink transferring to the tumbler as i was placing the paper on it.
This attachment has been tested to work with tumblers measuring approximately 7.75” tall with a 2.75” diameter (16oz) all the way up to 9.5" tall with a 3.125" diameter (30oz). If your straight-wall tumbler fits within that range, it will work just fine.
This attachment has been tested to work with tumblers measuring approximately 7.75” tall with a 2.75” diameter (16oz) all the way up to 9.5" tall with a 3.125" diameter (30oz). If your straight-wall tumbler fits within that range, it will work just fine.
Here's what we used for these transfers: -Sawgrass SG500 w/Sublijet-UHD Ink -In Sawgrass Print Manager, color mode is set to "Vivid" -TexPrint XPHR Sublimation Paper (now labeled "TexPrint DT Light") And that's it! Getting good black on your substrates also depends on a proper cook time/temp. If you overcook it, the blacks will appear brown. If you undercook it, the blacks will appear cloudy and gray.
The template download is linked in the product description: www.heatpressnation.com/products/20-oz-orca-white-stainless-steel-skinny-sublimation-tumbler-24-per-case
Can we see some videos with this press making tumblers with solid dark / black backgrounds?? Patterns like this with white backgrounds are fairly easy to do even with cheap tumbler presses. Getting good, consistent transfer on solid dark colored backgrounds is the real test. There are thousands of great patterns out there with backgrounds like this, but they are VERY difficult to get good results out of with other presses or in the convection ovens.
We'll have to try it out. Thanks for the suggestion!
Omg you made that look so simple and easy ive seen so many people put tape all over it and all sorts and yours turned out great!
Thanks! It does help a lot that these particular tumblers (ORCA) have very straight edges on top & bottom. Some other tumblers with rounded or tapered tops & bottom tend to give more problems when pressing.
heat.press/20oztumb
heat.press/16oztumb
Omg thank you so much. I have been watching videos to see how I can get smooth seams and edges. Some were saying air pockets others said to put more pressure and tape. None of that was working but your video was easy and thanks to you I perfected my tumblers.
Wow, that’s came out so beautiful
Love it!!! I’m currently having and issue with my sub paper sticking to my tumbler - tried to lessen pressure using 365/68 secs
thank you very much ,very well explanation.
thank you
THank you so much! Solved my ghosting issues
Wish the tumbler attachment was sold by itself already have the 6 in 1 mug press
I already have the Signature Mug Press as well. Disappointed if it can't be purchased seperately!
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I have the 6 in 1 already. I need this attachment though. Is it sold separately?
@@marybarner6795 yes check the website ..i just saw on there
same!
Can you tell me how you got the photo to look so great! I am struggling with that? Thank you!
Hi there! What print settings, paper and press settings are you using? :)
Can you show us a full rotation of the top, the bottom, and the seam? Pressing the tumbler is easy. Mastering these three areas is what you need to teach people. Cheers.
Fast forward to 36:38 on this replay of our livestream episode on tumblers: ruclips.net/video/K2B8TE-zbF0/видео.html
You'll see where we show the whole tumbler - top, bottom, and seam.
nice.. your pressure was already set... so how do I do it?
Go to 7:02 on this video to see how to adjust pressure for tumblers: ruclips.net/video/hiyRH3GL23c/видео.htmlsi=X8ERRMB0HMNYWnMV&t=421
It's on a similar machine, but the process is the same. (We don't usually use the front pressure adjustment knobs for tumblers.)
Just got my tumbler press in the mail today, got my first tumbler done and it's perfect! The only problem I have is the alarm didn't count down with the tumbler inside of it, do you think that I have it set to tight? It will count down and ring if I have nothing in it lol. 😆
Hi there! Yes, it most likely is too much pressure causing for the magnets that set off the timer to not align. If you continue experiencing issues, please give our technical support team a ring :)
@@HeatPressNation Yes you are correct, thank you.
Hi, how to fix the timer is not working? Thanks
Hi there! Please email our support team and they will be able to send you directions based on your press model. You may reach them at support@heatpressnation.com :)
Jerret...1. so you did not use a "sleeve " why ? 2. what press and attachments for water bottle , mug, 20oz tumbler
When using a mug press, there is no need for a heat shrink sleeve. This is because the pressure is being applied by the press.
In this video I used the HPN Signature Series Mug Press with Tumbler Attachment loaded. You can find this product here: www.heatpressnation.com/products/hpn-signature-series-2-in-1-automated-sublimation-mug-heat-press
I also used the 20oz ORCA Sublimation Tumbler: www.heatpressnation.com/products/20-oz-orca-white-stainless-steel-skinny-sublimation-tumbler-24-per-case?_pos=1&_sid=3234acf93&_ss=r
I keep getting tape marks after sublimating ..like you can see the outline where I had the tape …I tried wiping with water and it’s still doesn’t go away? How can I avoid this ..I lost a lot of tumblers trying
Thanks for the tutorial. What paper can I use with the Crio 8432 WDT that will give a glossy finish like sublimation? and what would the temp and time be.
We have two hard surface papers for white toner printers, Forever Multi-Trans and TheMagicTouch CPM 6.2. Both will work great and give a semi-glossy finish. We have videos for them on our channel, but you can find the products on our website - www.heatpressnation.com/collections/white-toner-media
I did mine same time. It faded. Maybe to long???
You don’t need to wrap in butcher paper? Ink won’t get on the tumbler attachment?
No butcher/parchment paper needed :)
I finally received my HPN tumbler press, where do I get the correct seamless transfers from??
We have templates available for most of our sublimation tumblers available for download on our site. Just click on the tumbler you want and there should be a "download template" link in the product description. This will allow you to create your own transfers in Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.
Are the heating elements available to buy right now? I have the signature series mug press and all of the other heating elements but this one.
As of right now, the attachment is only available with the mug press bundles. However, we will have them available individually in the very near future!
@@HeatPressNation that's not right I have the six in one and the press
How can I tell (using a tumbler press) if I'm using too much pressure or too high heat? I'm getting inconsistent results with part of the sublimated tumbler feeling rough and faint print and other parts looking shiny, bright, and perfect. Currently using 350-degrees for 110 seconds on white skinny tumblers.
Hi there! You want to use light pressure with tumblers. The press should be able to simply close without having to use any physical force. As for the time and temp, we recommend 365 x 60 seconds, rotating the tumbler and pressing it again for 65 seconds.
Hey looks great but can i ask what template you are using with the lines...sorry only new to the tumblers
If you go to the product on our website (link in description or heat.press/20oztumb), look in the description for a link to download the PDF template. It will work best in Photoshop, but you can use it in other graphic design software.
I have a couple of questions what paper do we need to Do sublimations on tumblers and mugs? Also what programs do you use or are available to do the lay out fornthe tumblers and mugs ? New to this. And I just got my heatpress nation 7 in 1 mug press .
In this video we used TexPrint DT Light Sublimation Paper, printed with our Sawgrass SG1000 Sublimation printer. We used Adobe Photoshop to create and edit the template used for this tumbler.
TexPrint DT Light - heat.press/dtlight
Sawgrass SG1000 - heat.press/sg1000kit
I’ve seen people place the finished tumbler in a ice bath, it supposedly brightens the design, have you tried?
We do not recommend rapid, drastic changes in temperature for any sublimation blanks. So we haven't tried the ice bath yet.
This press will do 30oz skinny tumblers as well? Doesn't look like the heating element is long enough based on this video since they are longer / taller than the 20oz. Usually the last 1 inch on each end of the heating elements have significant heat drop as there are no coils, so I'm curious to see a 30oz done in this press before ordering.
This attachment has been tested to work with tumblers measuring approximately 7.75” tall with a 2.75” diameter (16oz) all the way up to 9.5" tall with a 3.125" diameter (30oz). If your straight-wall tumbler fits within that range, it will work just fine.
We have a video in the works to show the process for a 30oz tumbler, but no word yet on when that will be released.
? For a 30oz tumbler using a HPN press does the time remain the same or do we increase time to compensate for the larger tumbler size?
For a 30 oz tumbler, we found that you can keep the same temp (365ºF), but you have to rotate the tumbler 2 times.
- Press for 60 seconds
- Rotate 1/3
- Press for 60 seconds
- Rotate another 1/3
- Final press for 60 seconds.
Sorry, might have missed it but did you explain why you rotated and heated again? Is this a normal thing to do? Also, I have seen in several videos where you say, "cool for several moments." Is that 30 seconds, cool to the touch, minutes, etc.? Is there such a thing as letting it cool for too long while you are preparing another tumbler or mug? Thanks.
Yes, if it is a full transfer, then you must rotate and re-press as there is about an inch opening on the top. We recommend peeling until it is cool to the touch. No such thing as too long :)
@@HeatPressNation Thank you for your very clear explanation!
With just the sublimation paper it doesn't bleed thru to your heat press pad?
Nope! No bleed :)
@HeatPressNation ooo I'm scared to try this. But would save me so much time and paper if I am brave enough to try it without paper.
I noticed you didn't use blow out paper. So would you say it's not really necessary with this press?
We haven't really seen the need for blowout paper when using a mug/tumbler press. We never use it in any of our demos or testing and have yet to experience any issues. (We always use it when pressing flat items in a regular heat press.)
@@HeatPressNation Thanks! That helps a lot! Lately, though, I have been experiencing some “tape marks” from the tape I place on the seam. It doesn’t cause a color change or ghosting, but you can see the tape lines in the light. Too much pressure? Too hot? Wrong type of heat tape? Suggestions?
Can I heat with a tumbler press that’s shorter than my tumbler?
You may be able to, however the outcome may always vary due to uneven time, temp and pressure.
I am waiting on my tumbler attachment to come but I got my press and pressed 3 tumblers with the mug press. It is smoking with all 3 presses I've done. Any idea why?? Heat is at 350 and I've pressed it for only 30 seconds
When sublimation ink is heated, it turns into a gas dye. Sometimes that gas seeps out. If there is any moisture in the paper, that will also evaporate. Unless there is a noticeable burnt smell, that "smoking" is normal.
How do you know that the pressure is medium, or what?
Pressure on most mug presses will be set by fee. You should feel slight resistance when closing the press, but it should not be difficult. If you have to press hard to close it, then it's too much.
I Already have the 6 in 1. Will the attachment be available as a single to allow for purchase?
Yes, individual attachments will be available for separate purchase soon! To get the latest updates, follow us on Facebook or sign up for our email newsletter at www.heatpressnation.com.
Is butcher paper not necessary? Bc when I press with it, the ink transfers onto it. I’m worried the ink will get on the attachment if I DONT use butcher paper and then cause that ink to go onto the next thing I press
If your setup requires you to use protective paper, go for it. You always want to do what's best for your specific situation. We do recommend using parchment paper over butcher paper for sublimation, since parchment can withstand higher temperatures. (We use Sawgrass ink and TexPrint DT sublimation paper and haven't found the need to use any extra paper when sublimating mugs and tumblers.)
@@HeatPressNation I don’t think I’ve seen anywhere stating to use any type of protection besides on apparel but just was worried it would bleed to the heat press attachment. And transfer to the next. I see a lot of ppl not using protection so I was just curious. And thanks for the extra tip about butcher and parchment
What size paper do you use … my 8.5*11 doesn’t work
For 20oz tumblers, we use 8.5x11 (landscape) :)
How do you know how much pressure to use?
Pressure can be tough to determine, but in this case, as long as the press closes with no physical force being needed, you should be fine.
does the ink need to dry before i make cuts and place on tumbler? I'm new and noticed ink transferring to the tumbler as i was placing the paper on it.
Yes, you definitely want to give the printed transfer a few moments to dry before placing it on your blank.
@@HeatPressNation thanks so much!
Will you be offering a 30 oz attachment also?
This attachment has been tested to work with tumblers measuring approximately 7.75” tall with a 2.75” diameter (16oz) all the way up to 9.5" tall with a 3.125" diameter (30oz). If your straight-wall tumbler fits within that range, it will work just fine.
Is it possible to do a 30oz thick tumbler?
This attachment has been tested to work with tumblers measuring approximately 7.75” tall with a 2.75” diameter (16oz) all the way up to 9.5" tall with a 3.125" diameter (30oz). If your straight-wall tumbler fits within that range, it will work just fine.
How do you get the black so vibrant
Here's what we used for these transfers:
-Sawgrass SG500 w/Sublijet-UHD Ink
-In Sawgrass Print Manager, color mode is set to "Vivid"
-TexPrint XPHR Sublimation Paper (now labeled "TexPrint DT Light")
And that's it! Getting good black on your substrates also depends on a proper cook time/temp. If you overcook it, the blacks will appear brown. If you undercook it, the blacks will appear cloudy and gray.
@@HeatPressNation thank you for your response. Very helpful
Can I use this for hotfix rhinestones?
We haven't tested it with those just yet. But aren't hotfix rhinestones for garments only?
Can you use htv with this machine?
We don't recommend using HTV on hard surfaces like mugs, tumblers, etc.
I am curious. Could you sublimate 11 oz or 15oz mugs x2 (2 at a time) with this element. Thanks
Great question! We haven't tried this yet. But I'll be sure to add it to my list of things to test.
-Jared
@@HeatPressNation Ok cool Jared. I seen it done on a different mug press and was curious. I will watch out for the video once you test it out. Thanks
What sub paper were you using. Text R light or heavy
For this tutorial (and most others) we used TexPrint DT Light - heat.press/dtlight
Can this be done with a4 paper?
No, not for tumblers in this size. This tall ORCA 20oz tumbler requires a larger print size to get a full-wrap, full-bleed transfer.
Amigos cual es el precio de la maquina
Puedes obtener toda la información aquí: www.heatpressnation.com/collections/mug-heat-presses/brand_hpn-signature-series
I appreciate you sharing this technique. Where can I find the template used in the video? Thanks
The template download is linked in the product description: www.heatpressnation.com/products/20-oz-orca-white-stainless-steel-skinny-sublimation-tumbler-24-per-case
I bought the PNW heat press it is the worst thing I have bought in my life wish I would have bought from yall
My press burns mu tumblers 😢😢😢
Hi there! What press settings are you using?