For some, there is no confusion why Pope Francis says something Catholic one day and something contrary to the Faith another day. It's a well-known pattern that is not confusing at all to those who understand the obvious agenda of James, SJ, etc. Moral relativism is not Catholic, and to teach otherwise is harmful to the vulnerable, a scandal to potential converts, and not of the Holy Spirit.
@@littlerock5256 Papal infallibility only applies when a pope speaks ex cathedra on matters of faith and morals, and proclaims certain accepted Traditional beliefs to be dogmas. But it does not mean deviating from Scripture, Tradition, and the Magisterium, as we are seeing today.
Iben's view on the fact that we will be having different Popes but we as Catholics should remain faithful to our original teachings of Christ. Obedience and faithfulness, in my opinion should be our focus.
I think Iben is drawing too many parallels to the protestant reformation and overlooking the present tragedy of the papacy controlled by political players.
Political players always tried to control the Papacy. What I think today's problem is that on top of that aim there's an ideological impulse too from political players. Almost a fusion between the Vt2 ethos and our current leaders and elite.
The Deep State in partnership with the Deep Church becomes quite obvious when the FBI invades the homes of pro life prayer advocates with guns drawn and little children looking liken or they agitate those who attend the traditional Latin Mass as the Deparyment of “INjustice” deems these prayed people to be “domestic terrorists”, along with concerned parents who attend school board meetings.
How can you possibly follow this pope? He is saying so many things that are so heretical and against the Catholic faith I just cannot and will not and I think the bishops and Cardinals and arch bishops should speak out when he says these crazy things.
This lady has been in your program before. Very glad to see the audience pushed back to her trying to impose obedience to bergoglio who is doing destruction of the church mambo style (two steps forward, one step back) to keep up with appearances. This lady should calibrate her understanding of faith, love/charity, and obedience. Her "lets come together" around something which is not true really does not work other than in a coca cola commercial. Bergoglio does become quite providential in that he has been so bad that his pontificate scared me straight into waking up to discover and come back to tradition, so perhaps that is why God allowed him to be where he is (same for all the other modernists).
Has anyone who is critical of the current pontificate ever been asked if they are thinking of leaving the Catholic church to create their own? Any surveys? If not then all this talk painting critical thinking people in the same light as Luther, is an opinion. Critical thinking people who are pointing out the errors of this current pontificate, who can base their criticisms on the teachings of the Catechism and Tradition are in this regard objective.
We must be faithful to Christ and the Church which is His body. We need to sanctify our selves and families, we must build culture one family at a time by staying close to the sacraments. Pray, Hope and Don’t Worry!
Unity will come under a truly Catholic Pope and the proper consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary as requested by Our Lady of Fatima. When the church is holy and seen to be holy, she wins conversions from Protestants and Orthodox. Vatican II nuetered the papacy and destroyed the missionary spirit and true CATHOLIC evangelization of the nations of the world. Thank God for Archbishop Lefevre and the preservation of Catholic traditional worship, doctrine, and morality, in spite of the diabolic attacks against her through the 20th century and today both from outside and from within. Can we not see in all of this that the church is truly indefectable? Pray that the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary will come soon. There is no human solution, though we must do what we can according to our state in life.
The cardinals in conclave are not infallible or impeccable!!! Far from it! They may close themselves off to the Holy Spirit for sure! God does not force them or us to be obedient to the guidance of the Holy Spirit!! To say that because the cardinals may have certain graces from their office does not mean that they obey the Holy Spirit in the conclave when choosing a pope!!! Iban's view is not Catholic in that statement she made that because the Holy Spirit was present that somehow that means that the cardinals were necessarily obedient to the Holy Spirit!! God never forces anyone even popes to do His Will!! As lay people we have to stop focusing on the charades or shenanigans of Pope Francis and work out our salvation in fear and trembling, through the sacraments. Yes, he cannot actually change Church doctrine, like on the death penalty, sodomy, communion for the divorced and remarried, but he can appear to do so and try to deceive everyone, including Catholics that he has!!!
For some, there is no confusion why Pope Francis says something Catholic one day and something contrary to the Faith another day. It's a well-known pattern that is not confusing at all to those who understand the obvious agenda of James, SJ, etc. Moral relativism is not Catholic, and to teach otherwise is harmful to the vulnerable, a scandal to potential converts, and not of the Holy Spirit.
The graces of the office do not permit popes to teach
@@littlerock5256
Papal infallibility only applies when a pope speaks ex cathedra on matters of faith and morals, and proclaims certain accepted Traditional beliefs to be dogmas. But it does not mean deviating from Scripture, Tradition, and the Magisterium, as we are seeing today.
@@Marcia-fw3wz It is impossible for a pope to do this, hence he is not the pope.
Iben's view on the fact that we will be having different Popes but we as Catholics should remain faithful to our original teachings of Christ. Obedience and faithfulness, in my opinion should be our focus.
Francis runs with the hares & hunts with the hounds.
I think Iben is drawing too many parallels to the protestant reformation and overlooking the present tragedy of the papacy controlled by political players.
Political players always tried to control the Papacy. What I think today's problem is that on top of that aim there's an ideological impulse too from political players. Almost a fusion between the Vt2 ethos and our current leaders and elite.
The Deep State in partnership with the Deep Church becomes quite obvious when the FBI invades the homes of pro life prayer advocates with guns drawn and little children looking liken or they agitate those who attend the traditional Latin Mass as the Deparyment of “INjustice” deems these prayed people to be “domestic terrorists”, along with concerned parents who attend school board meetings.
It is worse than the papacy being controlled by political players; modernists got control at Vatican II.
How can you possibly follow this pope? He is saying so many things that are so heretical and against the Catholic faith I just cannot and will not and I think the bishops and Cardinals and arch bishops should speak out when he says these crazy things.
The promises of Our Lord to Peter and the graces of the office do not permit a pope to be This is proof that Francis is not the pope.
Yss we must pray for Pope Francis but follow Christ in the teachings of His Church
@@annarella9801Following the pope is to
I'm so glad that I listened. I believe this is the crux. We MUST pray for one another. As parents pray for wayward adult children. Prayer unites.
I really enjoyed listening to Iben! Great guest, very perceptive.
This lady has been in your program before. Very glad to see the audience pushed back to her trying to impose obedience to bergoglio who is doing destruction of the church mambo style (two steps forward, one step back) to keep up with appearances. This lady should calibrate her understanding of faith, love/charity, and obedience. Her "lets come together" around something which is not true really does not work other than in a coca cola commercial. Bergoglio does become quite providential in that he has been so bad that his pontificate scared me straight into waking up to discover and come back to tradition, so perhaps that is why God allowed him to be where he is (same for all the other modernists).
Has anyone who is critical of the current pontificate ever been asked if they are thinking of leaving the Catholic church to create their own? Any surveys?
If not then all this talk painting critical thinking people in the same light as Luther, is an opinion.
Critical thinking people who are pointing out the errors of this current pontificate, who can base their criticisms on the teachings of the Catechism and Tradition are in this regard objective.
We must be faithful to Christ and the Church which is His body. We need to sanctify our selves and families, we must build culture one family at a time by staying close to the sacraments. Pray, Hope and Don’t Worry!
Unity will come under a truly Catholic Pope and the proper consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary as requested by Our Lady of Fatima.
When the church is holy and seen to be holy, she wins conversions from Protestants and Orthodox.
Vatican II nuetered the papacy and destroyed the missionary spirit and true CATHOLIC evangelization of the nations of the world.
Thank God for Archbishop Lefevre and the preservation of Catholic traditional worship, doctrine, and morality, in spite of the diabolic attacks against her through the 20th century and today both from outside and from within. Can we not see in all of this that the church is truly indefectable? Pray that the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary will come soon. There is no human solution, though we must do what we can according to our state in life.
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The cardinals in conclave are not infallible or impeccable!!! Far from it! They may close themselves off to the Holy Spirit for sure! God does not force them or us to be obedient to the guidance of the Holy Spirit!! To say that because the cardinals may have certain graces from their office does not mean that they obey the Holy Spirit in the conclave when choosing a pope!!! Iban's view is not Catholic in that statement she made that because the Holy Spirit was present that somehow that means that the cardinals were necessarily obedient to the Holy Spirit!! God never forces anyone even popes to do His Will!! As lay people we have to stop focusing on the charades or shenanigans of Pope Francis and work out our salvation in fear and trembling, through the sacraments. Yes, he cannot actually change Church doctrine, like on the death penalty, sodomy, communion for the divorced and remarried, but he can appear to do so and try to deceive everyone, including Catholics that he has!!!
This is a very silly woman and just demonstrates why women should never be in charge
Very unkind remark. We have had strong women and Doctors of the faith who’ve been women.