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Yeah I get your point in the ep it really its pointless they should have made it in the beginning that primus was attacked & azmuth was captured & Ben Rook Max was called to come look & help save azmuth rather then this random filler plot
32:39 For Albedo, yes, was even his first transformation on screen, and also the first Ultimate with both Ultimatrixs. He's like Heatblast for him. -PS: Humungosario hasta la Muerte.
"Made like a dark, fucked up version of Primus haha. Just a glimpse into my dark reality. A full stare into my twisted perspective would make most simply go insane lmao" - Khyber the Huntsman
I always thought the in universe reason ben sounded confident despite looking unsure is that he was projecting confidence and possibly him trying to figure out a plan
@@ninomitchell2039 that's what I figured. I think it kind of works, but even still the way Ben's lips arem moving are just so much and he's just speaking normally.
An episode dedicated to Ben being stuck in Khyber's personal hunting grounds and forced to survive against all the Omnitrix alien's predators at once is potentially interesting, but as it stands it feels disconnected from Albedo's ultimate plan and feels more like narrative padding.
Tbh this episode would be better without Albedo and if it was the finale to Khyber's arc at the start of omniverse, turn it into a two parter and give us the battle against all predators
The episode dont make sense for the same reason All the nemetrix episodes dont Ben can just transform into a alien which does not have a corrsponding predator in the nametrix There are more then 50 ben aliens And under 20 khyber aliens Legit even accident transformations should most of the time not be prey aliens Predator aliens were a unique concept but so badly handled
I think the retcon about Ditto not longer sharing pain is because his clones don't share pain with others because Ben has reached puberty, and puberty for Splixson allows the clones to remain unharmed even if one of them dies.
I never liked that weakness for Ditto anyway, same with Upgrade hurting if stretched a lot (which was in the same episode too) even though his entire ability is useful because he can stretch a lot
I just like to think that Albedo always had a bit of a bad character, but he was harmless since he preferred to be alone and not interact with other people. The traumatic events of his life were enough for him to “go crazy” and reveal something that had always been inside him, but he avoided showing it
Albedo is really weird. It's kind of a three way split. A third of the narrative wants him to be villainous, a third of it just plain makes fun of him(I am still convinced that the Omnitrix's errors in OS due to misconfiguration were his fault) and the other third wants us to feel for him.
My head canon is that the reason these predators are so small is because that cat thing is a lot younger than Zed so each of these predators is younger than Zed's as well
I like to excuse the first misreading of Ben’s lines as him trying to act tough while his body betrays his bluff. He is worried but trying to mask it with false confidence.
Everything Kuro says still stands, but I feel it's worth pointing out that this entire episode is a parody of The Most Dangerous Game. For those who don't know, The Most Dangerous Game is about a hunter who kidnaps random people and puts them on an island to hunt them. The idea is that humans can think and strategize, and are a lot more challenging to hunt. The title is a play on words, in that it's a dangerous game where people can and will die, but also "game" is what you refer to animals we normally hunt like deer, bears, and geese. Doesn't make the episode better, but a cool detail to point out nonetheless
An episodic based on the most dangerous game where Ben Rook Gween Kevin and maybe a few others getting kidnapped and each have to fight predator aliens sounds amazing as a concept
It kind of reminds me of a similar episode from Justice League Aciton, "Under a Red Sun." In that episode, Superman gets kidnapped by Steppenwolf, who traps him on a planet with a red sun to drain his powers. While Batman and Big Barda work on tracking down where Steppenwolf took the Man of Steel, Superman needs to fend off his attackers with his depleting powers. The things that made that episode work were that: 1. Superman doesn't just spend the entire episode running away. He actually fights back, especially with his wits and ingenuity towards the end. There's even a joke that points out that Superman took out more enemies than Batman or Big Barda without his powers. 2. Justice League Action episodes are eleven minutes long, so they only need to fill half as much time as Omniverse needed to with a similar concept.
i think what Feedback did to Ultimate Humungousaur was just electrocute him. and since Ultimate Humungousaur has so many metal platings, not to mention his remaining organic body parts and organs are still susceptible to electricity as any other creature, it was doubly effective against him
@@gageferrill110 actually (🤓☝️) ben only used "chamalien" 3 times, once in his debut episode, where he called it overkill, another time in the flame keeper circle introduction, where we transition to him already being transformed, so we dont hear him shout his name, and one last time in night of the living nightmare, where we do hear him shout "CHAMALIEN" but that was on albedo's dream, so for all we know, that name could be wrong
Tbh, the implication that Albedo possibly named the alien is hilarious. I hope that if they ever do a continuation of the classic continuity, they canonize this fun fact rather than doing away with it.
I actually loved this episode when I was younger, I really thought it was funny, and nowadays I still don't mind it that much but I see where you are coming from. One nice fact is that, at least on the Brazilian Portuguese version, Ben's voice actor, Charles Emmanuel, actually seemed to match Ben's expressions a bit better, maybe cuz, well, it was dubbed and it seems he was trying to use his voice to match more the animations than the original voice by Yuri.
33:43 actually, ben will never transformed to way big again in the series, he will show up twice as a cameo and mad ben will uses him in season 7, and 11 years old ben will use him once, but for prime ben that’s it with way big
@@Dijusticx maybe this episode is the weakest one out of the three, but its kind of enjoyable, wnd albedo does deserve an act. Still the albedo arc is one of my favs, and i think the action is much better in the finale
One thing to note about this episode (it’s probably a coincidence), but Ben loses as Shocksquatch to Albedo as Ultimate Spidermonkey *again*, just like his first reappearance a couple episodes ago.
7:54 you bring up how Slamworm is smaller than usual, but it has no collar...its not the Panuncian, its just a regular Slammoid most likely a young one
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING INK TANK GUY MY FAVOURITE MOMENT IS DITTO SHIVERING IN THE COLD SNOWFALL AREA THAT MAKES ME WANT TO STAY IDLE IN THE WINTER SEASON WITH WOOLLEN CAP AND DO NOTHING ELSE
15:10 I unironically do love Ben’s recognition of ditto’s home planet and species because it shows a level of respect for his aliens that I wish he showed more in OV and Ben ten as a whole, where he’s able to tell what species and planets his aliens are from just by them being mentioned
Best case as to what happened: Albedo was playing 4-D chess to buy himself time, throwing a bunch of dead ends up to confuse his enemies. Worst case as to what happened: Albedo was just making it up as he went along. Honestly he didn't think he'd even get as far as capturing Azmuth and had to think up something in 22 minutes or less.
.... I won't lie, the second theory amuses me. I'm just imagining him. "Wow, I didn't think I'd succeed that fast. Alright, so what now... Oh well, guess I'll just kidnap Ben and let Khyber have fun with him while I finish my machine."
Honestly, this episode of Omniverse is just Looney Toons skits stuffed in one episode within a trilogy, and the main villain of it was reduced to a bratty, snot-nosed child who values empty vengeance against Ben
Quick theory: the ultimatrix creates the Ultimates by simulating the worst-case scenario for the species. If we consider that it is a predator, then we can assume that its worst-case scenario would be the extinction of its main prey, the Dittos in this case. So, in addition to Ben's sagacity, the Panusians lost the habit of hunting Dittos but still maintained cloning. Evolution is not about getting stronger, but about adapting better.
@@antoniolopes1754 fun fact: In the Latam dubbing of the Alien Force's 3th season (I don't remember if it was also in Supremacy or for how long) that's what they called the Ultimatrix
I can think of two possible reasons: 1) Mechamorphs were created by Azmuth. Albedo refuses to acknowledge their utility because it'd mean accepting Azmuth is superior 2) Albedo is speciesist against Mechamorphs because they're an artificial species created by Galvans and therefore inferior
This episode may be bad but at the end when Albedo says two iconic villain lines and ben calls him on bad guys using those lines too much just for Albedo to say theres nothing wrong with the classics was funny.
He likely only uses his human form since it’s the form that Ben and the Plumbers recognize him as. The episode being so Looney Toon could be because it was Ditto centered with Ditto’s predator.
Request/Idea for a video A very common thing that pops up in big/important episodes of Ben 10 is the idea that "the Omnitrix is just a gadget and Ben doesn't need it to be a hero". While there are moments where Ben goes a bit as a human, I can't recall any major threat he's faced that didn't require the Omnitrix. So I think a cool idea for a video would just be a montage of all the times Ben was doing heroics as just a human, not only showing off that Tennyson strength/agility, but also showing what situations he has ACTUALLY not needed the Omnitrix to solve/overcome.
This episode was decent at first but when I watched again, it felt “meh” Khyber Panuncian’s chase Ditto was a waste of time and ruining the pacing in this episode. As soon Khyber said Panuncian is Ditto’s predator, Ben should’ve switch forms straight away but the show makes him look so dumb, even though I like Omniverse. This is Season 4 of Omniverse. Good to see Feedback in action, again.
I liked the ditto scene as a kid but yeah looking at it now it was a waste of time😂 That time shouldve been used for a full fight against all the nemetrix aliens, but it was probably too complex for the animators to coreograph (same as the albedo fight) so they opted for the ditto scene and albedo one shotting aliens for some reason
I like how some of the predators have abilities to specifically counter their prey, while others have the same ability as their prey in addition to something else
I don't think the Slamworm being small is an error. That Slamworm isn't wearing the Nemetrix, I think it's from the wild. That is just straight up either an adolescent or unusually small Slamworm.
Albedo is probably the most valid villain to be evil. Bro just wants to be his version of normal and Ben keeps messing it up sometimes accidentally. No wonder he went insane
I feel like Kuro misunderstands Ditto and how you write for him. We know that there are aliens which influence Ben's personality (most obviously Rath) and I feel like whenever Ben is Ditto he really leans into the Animaniacs-esque inspiration for him. Kuro calls the dialogue sloppy when Ditto says "Hey that's Ditto's home-planet" ... "Hey that's Ditto's species" but that's intended to be a stake-raising joke like you'd get from Yakko. Similarly, whilst, yes, it would make sense for Ben to change alien it wouldn't make sense for Ditto to do so. Oh- it's me. I'm the Ditto fan
@@frankspick7544 considering he transformed back, and didn’t choose ditto again, and straight up said “well maybe you can beat ditto…” ya I’d say he relented in trying to use ditto to win.
Here's the thing No hate to Kuro but he went into this episode expecting to dislike it When you do that it's very easy for shit that isn't a big deal to come across as worse than usual..cuz well I'm not a ditto fan and even I'll admit this episode is kinda slow but it never felt god awful to me when i rewatched it
It's understandable for Albedo to hate chilli fries despite eating them all the time Imagine if you're turn into an alien that loves to eat crap, every inch of your previous self hates it, but your modified biology still forces you to eat it and love it Plus, Albedo has been pretty verbal about how disgusting those things are for him since day one
All Tomorrows Colonials be like: Also, it's been stated that Albedo's addiction to chili fries doesn't come from Ben's DNA. Ben likes them but doesn't eat them as much as Albedo
Albedo just doesn't want to admit the truth in that case. The way he complains about it later, he genuinely deluded himself into thinking that it's because of Ben that we wants to eat them, rather than just because he himself is crazy about them.
I gotta say, I really hate how Omniverse treated Albedo and Charmcaster. Both of them had a sympathetic side to their stories and stood out from most of the other evil, power-hungry villains in Ben 10. In Ultimate Alien both of them had started to undergo a character arc where in their second to last appearances they finally got what they wanted, only to lose it almost immediately after. And then we got to see the fallouts of that. Charmcaster fell into this depressive state after her father condemned her actions and traded his life for everyone else’s in Legerdomain. She was left with no other purpos in life, having to find a new one. Hooking up with Michael was definitely a way for her to distract herself from all of that and having someone new in her life would’ve greatly helped her cope with her loss. Too bad for her that that didn’t work out. Albedo was so close to being a Galvan again and just quitting his villainy altogether, to which Ben was even happy for him, but his own friend betrayed him and took that away from him. He said he didn’t blame Hugh and only blamed Ben, but since neither him, nor the other actors ever made a reappearance, it’s obvious Albedo distanced himself from them. And in his follow-up appearance Albedo was shown to be genuinely terrified of Ben, if not even traumatized from all his history with him. He’s been bested time and time again by this one human teenager, who he just wants nothing to do with, but who he can’t escape from, even when looking in the mirror. And then Omniverse happened and both of them became generically evil again. It was genuinely such a letdown. Like, we already have Vilgax, Animo, Zs’Skayr, Aggregor and they gave us Malware, Maltruant, etc. who are all unapologetically evil and fun. Just why couldn’t Charmcaster and Albedo be different?
Cause they're not Kevin, obviously only Kevin can be a villain and have a redemption arc, becoming evil again and always switching from good and evil, or some type of complexity. also, it's ironic that you didn't mention Khyber, despite him being the villain of this episode, lol.
@@nateds7326 Charmcaster's last appearance was after she discovered that Michael was manipulating her, she personally handed him over to the trio and allowed Ben's team to leave Legerdomine... I don't understand what the problem is with Charmcaster's redemption... In the original series Kevin and Hex tried to kill the Tennyson family several times... but then they ended up becoming good.
@@nateds7326 Clearly you and I haven't been watching the same show. Also we were talking about nuance, not redemption. Just because a villain doesn't get redeemed doesn't mean they have to be turned into generic evil.
Ben: Waybig is overkill against this predator worm Also Ben: Dang the plot demands that the villain gets his point across, better use Alien X with full control against this bunch of hybrids I could easily fight with my regular aliens
Ben normally:"I don't want ultimate power, I will only use it when absolutely needed." Ben in that episode:"It's no use! Take this!"(Yeeting everyone with psychokinesis like Sonic 06 Silver)
@@christianparrish3292 And I remember getting Animaniacs DVDs on road trips and seeing this OV Episode that involves Ditto brings me a warm feeling to my nostalgic heart.
Maybe albedo hit upchucks gag reflex, upchuck was attempting to eat solid matter and had energy forced down his throat so maybe his body went into shock or went down the wrong hole?.
4:23 Thankfully video editors like CapCut can fix the colors of this episode, I say It’s Specially necessary for having and preserving the best quality version of this episode because the DVD Version while it’s corrected it’s only in 480p, (Thought since this episode it’s considered not that great by a lot of the Ben 10 Community, I dont know if that’s a good thing to preserve this episode XD) If someone has the episode downloaded and wants the method to fix the colors, Ask me in the comments because I did it myself and I will be very happy to help you guys :,)
“Why are they small?” Do you think all the predators are all just massive from birth? How do we know that the predators in that ripoff Omnitrix weren’t the “absolute” versions of them as well?
Khyber having birds is peculiar detail actually because when the show was still in season 1, there was a magazine with a coded message that literally says "Train birds to poo on Ben." I'm not joking, that is the exact message.
29:48 Yeah this is just not good character writing, Albedo got want he wanted all this time and yet he's still trying to double down on his revenge against Ben when he can just leave.
You bring up a good point about how they dropped the ball with not having ben fight all the predators at once, would have been a pretty cool parallel to when he first unlocked master control back in the Og series and was fighting Kevin and villgax in the null void to show how far he's grown in experience.
28:55 I always saw this as while Albedo while his resentment against Ben is not logical it still doesn't just go away from his perspective he never felt he did anything wrong so that imprisonment (in his view) was always unjustified, with the Humiliation being things like having himself get stuck in his nightmare alien which itself he did as revenge for Ben ruining his machine (which he views as justified) and the chilli fries comment being more so how Ben's form has kinda just changed his own biology and mental thought process which ofc he brought on himself but would definetly be terrifying to experience and I can see from his own skewed sense of morality and principles why he'd have such resentment to go this far And while he hasn't brought that stuff up beforehand I always felt he still always held that resentment for Ben for these reasons as motivation for alot of the future acts he did. With him saying that he's "over it" just being more like a "I've already won" type of thing (though that line was kinda weird) That being said my issue is the line of Albedo saying "why do good guys always say that?" After Ben said it cause (I don't think) Albedo said or ever considered himself evil.
It's interesting how Nemetrix can change Hathorans into many different forms, while Omnitrix requires all of the clones to be held together. Do they still can merge? It would make sense for Snorosians, as their clones are pretty independed, while Hathorans' clones are still one and the same entity.
I think it works because the clone-maker in the one wearing the Nemetrix. It has natural cloning powers before transforming into anything. An actual Splixon could probably do the same thing, if they put on the Omnitrix instead of Ben.
honestly i think that albedo's transition from "i will leave this backwater planet" to "do you think i will forget these humiliations" was justified back in UA. at the end of Double or Nothing albedo only strengthens the idea that ben is the cause of all the problems. in Night of the living nightmare albedo arrives in a psychological trip that being a complete copy of ben he is not able to defeat him. he is better than him by default, even without making absolutely any effort, i think what he went through in nightmare episode only strengthened his superiority complex as a kind of protection, which we see in his ov personality
Just because it's "justified" doesn't mean it's good. Like I said in my own comment, we got a similar situation with Vlad Plasmius in Danny Phantom season 3, where after several humiliations from Danny he drops any form of friendly rivalry with Danny and just starts going full on evil with plans for World domination. It makes sense for his character that he'd snap, but it resulted in a far less complex or interesting villain - and as a result season 3 of Danny Phantom is generally seen as a downgrade. It's the same with Albedo here. It makes sense that he'd snap after all he went through, yes, but the end result still is that we used to have an actual character with understandable and coherent motives setting him apart from just being an evil clone of Ben, whereas after this he's literally just an evil Ben with no depths. It speaks volume in my opinion that his plan at the end of the arc is a cartoonish supervillain plan that doesn't remotely line-up with his previous characterizations, and all his next appearances will feature him teaming up with Vilgax (which seems highly out of character given how it went the first time) and treated as just another generic villain, suggesting they no longer knew what to do with him once they removed his interesting motivation.
@@Theokal3 good or bad is a matter of opinion and personal preference. albedo has been a pretty stupid and arrogant character since his debut, who was ready to put the universe in danger because of stupidity and personal dislike for an "unworthy" human. even the creators themselves understand this and therefore roll him back in UA, because obviously everyone here is for albedo the villain, the doppelganger, the lover of chilli fries. back in the UAF era in the episode Double or nothing, a trigger from ben was enough for albedo to become fixated and obsessed again, this is at the root of his character, so I find it strange to reproach Omniverse for the fact that they literally continue what UAF established. his personality in Omniverse matches the style and narrative of the show, he is still an entertaining character. just because there is no "redemption" theme that everyone talks about doesn't mean he is ruined, in fact he was always like that from the very beginning, it is just demonstrated even more vividly now
@@holika8265 Of course it's a matter of personal preference. I never made any pretense that I was objectively right in the above statement. If you still like him as he is here that's fine, but I disagree - and apparently so does Kuro. And yes, Albedo always was portrayed as arrogant and... well not *stupid* in my opinion, but short-sighted. But there still was something sympathetic about his character in that his motivation went beyond just being evil or conquering the world, and he was generally presented as not particularly inclined to megalomaniac antics evil laugh; if you look at his previous appearances in AUF, he's usually pretty pragmatic and straightforward in how he acts, has no ambitions besides getting his old form, and drops the matter once he has his old form back (even if he's still a jerk). Even when he DID get comical, it was usually unintentional on his part. That's a stark contrast from his OV self who actively taunts Ben & co like a supervillains, exchange jokes with Ben, crack evil laughs, and then comes up with a ridiculous plan to steal Azmuth's brain - which doesn't match even THIS take because you'd think he already believe himself smarter than Azmuth. And please explain me how it makes sense for him to team up with Vilgax TWICE after this when Squidface betrayed him the first time and does it again the second. You're telling me him wanting revenge on Ben makes sense, but it's normal that he doesn't also want revenge on Vilgax?! Also excuse me, but what is that "everyone talk about Redemption" thing you talk about? I haven't said anything about him being redeemed, nor did Kuro or anyone I saw here. He could be a complex character without getting redeemed, you know?
19:42 When Max suggests tracking tachyon emissions, I get the feeling the writers were suggesting Khyber's ship has a specific signature or they were going to cross-reference the Bem and tachyon signatures to eliminate some false positives. In general, I get the feeling that the animators and voice director got differing memos from the writers and storyboarders on how Ben was to act given the mismatch of visials and delivery.
9:43 It will never not be cursed that his middle name is Kirby and his whole gimmick is transforming by er...copying other lifeforms technically. 11:55 I mean yeah, it's not even an Omnitrix, its primary function is just to make his own transformations permanent. 15:33 And this is a perfect moment where they should have written in something they already stated previously. That being that Ben really has no choice but to fight at a disadvantage when against the Nemetrix because it influences the Omnitrix. Unless Phil just made that up and locking the Omnitrix into electrical aliens was his ability somehow, rather than the Nemetrix energy locking it to only allow for valid prey to be selected. Like seriously, that is a valid plotpoint that explains a lot of weirdness in Khyber episodes, why is it never coming up? 24:47 That's the most Albedo thing ever, change my mind. 26:57 Albedo really just cannot let his one success go, man. The ultimate function was that one thing and he just has to claw himself to it. Bro would probably see crimson if he knew that Azmuth badmouthed the function hard that one time. 28:40 The second time he mentioned his prison time in this episode, it must have legitimately sucked, especially because he was presumably thrown in while still dealing with trauma from the dream eater(Which btw, he still shouldn't have been this eager to stick with the ultinate function after that dream, I stick with that take). Though yeah, he is just blaming Ben over the actual reason again. First time it was Hugh, now it is himself because he was obviously jailed for trying to put the thing on Ben in the first place. Even for how petty Albedo was before, this feels like character stagnation. They just flanderized his previous depiction rather than expanding in a new direction like the previous episodes with him did.
This is where the arcs in Omniverse start falling off. So few episodes are dedicated to the seasonal arcs that one mediocre episode can bring down the entire thing. And you'd think that these arcs would be fast paced but they still find ways to be bogged down by unnecessary fluff.
I agree with that take, or its like the time they take to dedicate to the main story of the seasonsal arcs could have been longer,Like the Mad Ben arc, instead of it being a 2 parter.
Why did they kidnaped ben? Like what was the objective with that, they kind of just alerted ben of their plans there, they coud have just remove azmuths brain and after go off ben with the ultimate nemetrix
As sloppy as this episode is, I will always love the “hyperkinetic miscreant” line simply because it’s just a really wordy way of calling someone a Spazz and I find it extremely funny
My take is that albedo is literally insane in this episode. Like, his mind is so absolutely broken, his thirst for revenge has gone to his other brain, and is thus making other pieces of his thought process stop properly working.
probs my first comment to yall at the ink tank but to ur question kuro, i mean i personally think the "left turn at alberkirki" works for ditto only because he is a reffrence in it of himself anywauys, the fact the animaniac alien makes the reffrence is that pass srry if anyone thinks thats a dumb reason
It just cannot logically happen in-narrative unless one writes in a plot where Albedo steals the official Omnitrix, hacks it to include the ultinate feature, then has to either return it to Ben afterwards for some reason or it being taken back from him by force.
@@davidkuykendall3778 The whole reason the original ultimatrix was replaced was because it was a poorly made device full of bugs and lacking in failsaves. That thing is not coming back. And the new Ultimatrix is not an Omnitrix at all, it is nearly worthless to anyone who cannot already transform on their own.
Since I'm from the Middle East I never known that the color thing was an actual thing But when I rewatched the series I noticed that the episode is much lighter than I remember it being So I returned to the dub and saw it And yes there's a difference Thanks for mentioning this It used to annoy me when I rewatched the series
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BTW, you accidently put season 4 episode 89
Yeah I get your point in the ep it really its pointless they should have made it in the beginning that primus was attacked & azmuth was captured & Ben Rook Max was called to come look & help save azmuth rather then this random filler plot
19:40 Rook is referring to him staring at the ship as it flew away. He could've used his Proto-Tool to hook onto the ship.
28:23 "I don't think we've ever seen brainstorm do that"
*rewatches the entirety of UAF*
Lmao
He probably just re watched all episodes with our brain crab
@DragoBaker i believe it
he actually did it in his first appearance
@KraylebStudios he means firing the electricity
I have a weird request
Once this review series ends, there should be a “Kuro’s Cat Cameo” compilation for every time they pop up
omg yes, kuro pls
Please do this
I hope that's a thing. It'd be a nice way to wrap things up on the cats' end of things.
K from now let's start at 42 billion, not as many as expected, but we'll just move on
YES, YOU HAVE MY VOTE🫡
32:39
For Albedo, yes, was even his first transformation on screen, and also the first Ultimate with both Ultimatrixs.
He's like Heatblast for him.
-PS: Humungosario hasta la Muerte.
Albedo: ¡¡Vilgax hazme un tatuaje!!, y que ponga "Humongosaurio hasta la muerte".
siempre pense que el nombre era "Un mungosaurio" tipo que se llamaba Mungosaurio
HUMUNGOSAURIO SUPREMO HASTA LA MUERTE!!!!!!
"Made like a dark, fucked up version of Primus haha. Just a glimpse into my dark reality. A full stare into my twisted perspective would make most simply go insane lmao" - Khyber the Huntsman
Tf shattter class
lmao
Flawless
I always thought the in universe reason ben sounded confident despite looking unsure is that he was projecting confidence and possibly him trying to figure out a plan
@@ninomitchell2039 that's what I figured. I think it kind of works, but even still the way Ben's lips arem moving are just so much and he's just speaking normally.
@nateds7326 fair point. Regardless of how he was supposed to look, though, I think that might've just been bad synching between the animators and Yuri
An episode dedicated to Ben being stuck in Khyber's personal hunting grounds and forced to survive against all the Omnitrix alien's predators at once is potentially interesting, but as it stands it feels disconnected from Albedo's ultimate plan and feels more like narrative padding.
Tbh this episode would be better without Albedo and if it was the finale to Khyber's arc at the start of omniverse, turn it into a two parter and give us the battle against all predators
Yeah like why the hell is Khyber even here? He doesn't add a ton
@@nateds7326 probably for distraction so Azmuth can be kidnapped
The episode dont make sense for the same reason
All the nemetrix episodes dont
Ben can just transform into a alien which does not have a corrsponding predator in the nametrix
There are more then 50 ben aliens
And under 20 khyber aliens
Legit even accident transformations should most of the time not be prey aliens
Predator aliens were a unique concept but so badly handled
I think the retcon about Ditto not longer sharing pain is because his clones don't share pain with others because Ben has reached puberty, and puberty for Splixson allows the clones to remain unharmed even if one of them dies.
Or we can say it’s because Ben is older and older people aren’t as overly sensitive to pain than kids are
También puede ser una falla que el Omnitrix prototipo tenía y el definitivo ya no
I never liked that weakness for Ditto anyway, same with Upgrade hurting if stretched a lot (which was in the same episode too) even though his entire ability is useful because he can stretch a lot
or realistically it was just too big of a weakness against current ben enemies to keep
Explains why Ben10k Chose Ditto over echo echo for Ken's omnitrix, in fact there might be some more perks to ditto's species as it gets older.
28:33 I still have the theory that dream parasite messed up with Albedo brain and that's why he's crazier that before.
Perhaps
That’s a really good theory
I just like to think that Albedo always had a bit of a bad character, but he was harmless since he preferred to be alone and not interact with other people. The traumatic events of his life were enough for him to “go crazy” and reveal something that had always been inside him, but he avoided showing it
Albedo is really weird. It's kind of a three way split. A third of the narrative wants him to be villainous, a third of it just plain makes fun of him(I am still convinced that the Omnitrix's errors in OS due to misconfiguration were his fault) and the other third wants us to feel for him.
My head canon is that the reason these predators are so small is because that cat thing is a lot younger than Zed so each of these predators is younger than Zed's as well
I swear every time Khyber shows up, Ben's brain just shuts off.
that's his species' true special ability (or his second one, if you remember they're living whistles)
like King from One Punch Man, everyone just becomes dumb and accepts whatever he says
I like to excuse the first misreading of Ben’s lines as him trying to act tough while his body betrays his bluff. He is worried but trying to mask it with false confidence.
Everything Kuro says still stands, but I feel it's worth pointing out that this entire episode is a parody of The Most Dangerous Game. For those who don't know, The Most Dangerous Game is about a hunter who kidnaps random people and puts them on an island to hunt them. The idea is that humans can think and strategize, and are a lot more challenging to hunt. The title is a play on words, in that it's a dangerous game where people can and will die, but also "game" is what you refer to animals we normally hunt like deer, bears, and geese. Doesn't make the episode better, but a cool detail to point out nonetheless
Ironic that OV would have an episode title referencing that later
Pog
An episodic based on the most dangerous game where Ben Rook Gween Kevin and maybe a few others getting kidnapped and each have to fight predator aliens sounds amazing as a concept
Oh, I wonder if that Star Wars the Clone Wars arc was also referencing that.
It kind of reminds me of a similar episode from Justice League Aciton, "Under a Red Sun." In that episode, Superman gets kidnapped by Steppenwolf, who traps him on a planet with a red sun to drain his powers. While Batman and Big Barda work on tracking down where Steppenwolf took the Man of Steel, Superman needs to fend off his attackers with his depleting powers.
The things that made that episode work were that:
1. Superman doesn't just spend the entire episode running away. He actually fights back, especially with his wits and ingenuity towards the end. There's even a joke that points out that Superman took out more enemies than Batman or Big Barda without his powers.
2. Justice League Action episodes are eleven minutes long, so they only need to fill half as much time as Omniverse needed to with a similar concept.
13:35 This I like to see as "Ben's putting up a facade of sorts, trying to hide the fear his face shows."
i think what Feedback did to Ultimate Humungousaur was just electrocute him. and since Ultimate Humungousaur has so many metal platings, not to mention his remaining organic body parts and organs are still susceptible to electricity as any other creature, it was doubly effective against him
Todos sabemos que la electricidad es la kriptonita de los supremos
Albedo is so insane and crazy I cant help but love him you can tell Yuri is having so much fun voicing him
... I will give you that, it's at least fun to see Yuri play evil Ben
I actually love the M.O.D.O.K reference, it's so silly that it kinda loops around to being cool again.
8:37 Actually "Overkill" would be overkill
My headcanon is that ben sticked with overkill as the name for the species of prisoner 775
@@cracarlos_au5757He literally calls him chameleon I'm pretty sure So how does that work
@@gageferrill110 actually (🤓☝️) ben only used "chamalien" 3 times, once in his debut episode, where he called it overkill, another time in the flame keeper circle introduction, where we transition to him already being transformed, so we dont hear him shout his name, and one last time in night of the living nightmare, where we do hear him shout "CHAMALIEN" but that was on albedo's dream, so for all we know, that name could be wrong
Tbh, the implication that Albedo possibly named the alien is hilarious. I hope that if they ever do a continuation of the classic continuity, they canonize this fun fact rather than doing away with it.
I actually loved this episode when I was younger, I really thought it was funny, and nowadays I still don't mind it that much but I see where you are coming from. One nice fact is that, at least on the Brazilian Portuguese version, Ben's voice actor, Charles Emmanuel, actually seemed to match Ben's expressions a bit better, maybe cuz, well, it was dubbed and it seems he was trying to use his voice to match more the animations than the original voice by Yuri.
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Same man. Same
33:43 actually, ben will never transformed to way big again in the series, he will show up twice as a cameo and mad ben will uses him in season 7, and 11 years old ben will use him once, but for prime ben that’s it with way big
Wow. So that's how Prime Way Big's story ends, huh? With a ginormous whimper.
Actually, he transforms into Way Big again in the final episode. It lasts 1 second, but he transforms
@@SeiLa-zf1sf That's probably the one of the two aforementioned cameos.
Ultimate Humungousaur was the first ultimate alien used on screen. Maybe that is why, Albedo says it is a classic.
It’s chaos.. beautiful chaos
I agree
Sums up everything ye
@@Alphaanims despite its isdues i still like this arc
@@αλεξηςγεωργουλιας I'm just glad albedo has his own arc
@@Dijusticx maybe this episode is the weakest one out of the three, but its kind of enjoyable, wnd albedo does deserve an act. Still the albedo arc is one of my favs, and i think the action is much better in the finale
One thing to note about this episode (it’s probably a coincidence), but Ben loses as Shocksquatch to Albedo as Ultimate Spidermonkey *again*, just like his first reappearance a couple episodes ago.
I think albedo calling Max grandpa was him mocking him since he still does look like his grandson
Además de que es una forma de llamarlo anciano albedo probablemente es mayor que max pero es porque es un Galván
@@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 well with how petty Albedo is I think he could’ve meant both like oh your technically my grandpa but your also old 😏
7:54 you bring up how Slamworm is smaller than usual, but it has no collar...its not the Panuncian, its just a regular Slammoid most likely a young one
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING INK TANK GUY
MY FAVOURITE MOMENT IS DITTO SHIVERING IN THE COLD SNOWFALL AREA THAT MAKES ME WANT TO STAY IDLE IN THE WINTER SEASON WITH WOOLLEN CAP AND DO NOTHING ELSE
Alright chill I think you proved your point
@@austinforgie1069 he's an Appoplexian, telling them to chill is a risky thing to do
@@Johnnyvsbattleguypart4-hk2sd Alright, alright, you've been Rath long enough, time to transform back
15:10 I unironically do love Ben’s recognition of ditto’s home planet and species because it shows a level of respect for his aliens that I wish he showed more in OV and Ben ten as a whole, where he’s able to tell what species and planets his aliens are from just by them being mentioned
Best case as to what happened: Albedo was playing 4-D chess to buy himself time, throwing a bunch of dead ends up to confuse his enemies.
Worst case as to what happened: Albedo was just making it up as he went along. Honestly he didn't think he'd even get as far as capturing Azmuth and had to think up something in 22 minutes or less.
Best comment
Full on Plankton. "I don't know. I didn't think I'd get this far."
.... I won't lie, the second theory amuses me. I'm just imagining him. "Wow, I didn't think I'd succeed that fast. Alright, so what now... Oh well, guess I'll just kidnap Ben and let Khyber have fun with him while I finish my machine."
6:04 if albedo wants ben to chase him in under-town then being in human form is the best Choice a human would stand out in a crowd of aliens
Honestly, this episode of Omniverse is just Looney Toons skits stuffed in one episode within a trilogy, and the main villain of it was reduced to a bratty, snot-nosed child who values empty vengeance against Ben
Quick theory: the ultimatrix creates the Ultimates by simulating the worst-case scenario for the species. If we consider that it is a predator, then we can assume that its worst-case scenario would be the extinction of its main prey, the Dittos in this case.
So, in addition to Ben's sagacity, the Panusians lost the habit of hunting Dittos but still maintained cloning.
Evolution is not about getting stronger, but about adapting better.
Super omnitrix?
@@elsaulo5841 I made a mistake
@@antoniolopes1754 fun fact: In the Latam dubbing of the Alien Force's 3th season (I don't remember if it was also in Supremacy or for how long) that's what they called the Ultimatrix
@@elsaulo5841 I was wrong because I was used to it, you are talking to a Brazilian.
@@antoniolopes1754 obrigato... I SAID, interesing
34:18 That just makes me wonder why we haven’t seen Albedo use Upgrade before, feels like he would understand how useful of a transformation it is
I can think of two possible reasons:
1) Mechamorphs were created by Azmuth. Albedo refuses to acknowledge their utility because it'd mean accepting Azmuth is superior
2) Albedo is speciesist against Mechamorphs because they're an artificial species created by Galvans and therefore inferior
@edgargaebolg9307 Both excellent points
This episode may be bad but at the end when Albedo says two iconic villain lines and ben calls him on bad guys using those lines too much just for Albedo to say theres nothing wrong with the classics was funny.
He likely only uses his human form since it’s the form that Ben and the Plumbers recognize him as.
The episode being so Looney Toon could be because it was Ditto centered with Ditto’s predator.
So basically Animaniacs but with Ditto
@ pretty sure Ditto was based on the Animaniacs
I would still rather see the predators vs ben fight than looney toons ditto. It was amusing,but still....@@firstnamelastname8006
25:48 imagine Astrodactly just gets chomped by the Tyrannopede since the Klassofex Ultima is also this alien’s natural predator
I actually didn't think about that. And I'll bet the writers didn't either.
@@christianparrish3292 maybe they didn’t since this is Astrodactly’s first appearance
@AmericaChavez17 no it isn't. His first appearance was in While You Were Away.
theres so many good options to do with this episode lmao
Good point
Request/Idea for a video
A very common thing that pops up in big/important episodes of Ben 10 is the idea that "the Omnitrix is just a gadget and Ben doesn't need it to be a hero".
While there are moments where Ben goes a bit as a human, I can't recall any major threat he's faced that didn't require the Omnitrix.
So I think a cool idea for a video would just be a montage of all the times Ben was doing heroics as just a human, not only showing off that Tennyson strength/agility, but also showing what situations he has ACTUALLY not needed the Omnitrix to solve/overcome.
Ben's running animation reminds me of the one they gave the Flash in his Superman TAS episode, that they poorly recycled for JL.
37:55 a lot of us also just call them combiners. Ultimately a lot of it comes down to language and simplicity
This episode was decent at first but when I watched again, it felt “meh”
Khyber Panuncian’s chase Ditto was a waste of time and ruining the pacing in this episode.
As soon Khyber said Panuncian is Ditto’s predator, Ben should’ve switch forms straight away but the show makes him look so dumb, even though I like Omniverse. This is Season 4 of Omniverse.
Good to see Feedback in action, again.
If this episode were to be made today I would say this episode had a bad case of “Marvel Comedy Syndrome” MCS.
I'm just waiting for the Multiverse Arc Breakdown.
I liked the ditto scene as a kid but yeah looking at it now it was a waste of time😂
That time shouldve been used for a full fight against all the nemetrix aliens, but it was probably too complex for the animators to coreograph (same as the albedo fight) so they opted for the ditto scene and albedo one shotting aliens for some reason
@orbboom6119 It's scenes like those that make it hard to defend Khyber as a villain even if you're a fan of him.
Omniverse in a nutshell, a mess with some great moments
It's Breakdown Time
I like how some of the predators have abilities to specifically counter their prey, while others have the same ability as their prey in addition to something else
Or in Hypno-ticks case: both
Sees the title of the video: Hell yeah, ruthless Kuro is back!
I don't think the Slamworm being small is an error. That Slamworm isn't wearing the Nemetrix, I think it's from the wild. That is just straight up either an adolescent or unusually small Slamworm.
and maybe thats why Ben didn't wanted to attack it as it was a child
that explanation works fine for me.
You know what could be both cool and chaotic at the same time? A breakdown with the full ink tank crew (Kellen, Kuro, Ash, Hurshie, and Fro)
Yeah
I chuckled at the i should have taken that keft turn at Albuquerque joke.
Metv toons?
Albedo is probably the most valid villain to be evil. Bro just wants to be his version of normal and Ben keeps messing it up sometimes accidentally. No wonder he went insane
I feel like Kuro misunderstands Ditto and how you write for him.
We know that there are aliens which influence Ben's personality (most obviously Rath) and I feel like whenever Ben is Ditto he really leans into the Animaniacs-esque inspiration for him.
Kuro calls the dialogue sloppy when Ditto says "Hey that's Ditto's home-planet" ... "Hey that's Ditto's species" but that's intended to be a stake-raising joke like you'd get from Yakko.
Similarly, whilst, yes, it would make sense for Ben to change alien it wouldn't make sense for Ditto to do so.
Oh- it's me. I'm the Ditto fan
Yeah.
Plus as Ben said afterwards, he was trying to prove a point that ditto could beat his predator. He failed tho and that’s why he relented.
@@ryninja5788 did he tho? Ditto did beat his predator kyber wouldn't have needed to use the others if that wasn't the case.
@@frankspick7544 considering he transformed back, and didn’t choose ditto again, and straight up said “well maybe you can beat ditto…” ya I’d say he relented in trying to use ditto to win.
Here's the thing
No hate to Kuro but he went into this episode expecting to dislike it
When you do that it's very easy for shit that isn't a big deal to come across as worse than usual..cuz well I'm not a ditto fan and even I'll admit this episode is kinda slow but it never felt god awful to me when i rewatched it
It's understandable for Albedo to hate chilli fries despite eating them all the time
Imagine if you're turn into an alien that loves to eat crap, every inch of your previous self hates it, but your modified biology still forces you to eat it and love it
Plus, Albedo has been pretty verbal about how disgusting those things are for him since day one
All Tomorrows Colonials be like:
Also, it's been stated that Albedo's addiction to chili fries doesn't come from Ben's DNA. Ben likes them but doesn't eat them as much as Albedo
Albedo just doesn't want to admit the truth in that case. The way he complains about it later, he genuinely deluded himself into thinking that it's because of Ben that we wants to eat them, rather than just because he himself is crazy about them.
How do we know Albedo hated chili fries pre villain arc? He probably never even went to earth until after he made his copy
I gotta say, I really hate how Omniverse treated Albedo and Charmcaster.
Both of them had a sympathetic side to their stories and stood out from most of the other evil, power-hungry villains in Ben 10.
In Ultimate Alien both of them had started to undergo a character arc where in their second to last appearances they finally got what they wanted, only to lose it almost immediately after. And then we got to see the fallouts of that.
Charmcaster fell into this depressive state after her father condemned her actions and traded his life for everyone else’s in Legerdomain. She was left with no other purpos in life, having to find a new one. Hooking up with Michael was definitely a way for her to distract herself from all of that and having someone new in her life would’ve greatly helped her cope with her loss. Too bad for her that that didn’t work out.
Albedo was so close to being a Galvan again and just quitting his villainy altogether, to which Ben was even happy for him, but his own friend betrayed him and took that away from him. He said he didn’t blame Hugh and only blamed Ben, but since neither him, nor the other actors ever made a reappearance, it’s obvious Albedo distanced himself from them. And in his follow-up appearance Albedo was shown to be genuinely terrified of Ben, if not even traumatized from all his history with him. He’s been bested time and time again by this one human teenager, who he just wants nothing to do with, but who he can’t escape from, even when looking in the mirror.
And then Omniverse happened and both of them became generically evil again. It was genuinely such a letdown. Like, we already have Vilgax, Animo, Zs’Skayr, Aggregor and they gave us Malware, Maltruant, etc. who are all unapologetically evil and fun. Just why couldn’t Charmcaster and Albedo be different?
Last time we saw Charmcaster she murdered the main cast. I don't think you get to be redeemed after that.
Cause they're not Kevin, obviously only Kevin can be a villain and have a redemption arc, becoming evil again and always switching from good and evil, or some type of complexity. also, it's ironic that you didn't mention Khyber, despite him being the villain of this episode, lol.
@@nateds7326
Charmcaster's last appearance was after she discovered that Michael was manipulating her, she personally handed him over to the trio and allowed Ben's team to leave Legerdomine... I don't understand what the problem is with Charmcaster's redemption... In the original series Kevin and Hex tried to kill the Tennyson family several times... but then they ended up becoming good.
@@jchgbluedemon2729 they only tried, she killed them
@@nateds7326 Clearly you and I haven't been watching the same show.
Also we were talking about nuance, not redemption. Just because a villain doesn't get redeemed doesn't mean they have to be turned into generic evil.
Damn, I didn't realize we were already on episode 89 of season 4
His commentary was better than the episode lmaoo
Ben: Waybig is overkill against this predator worm
Also Ben: Dang the plot demands that the villain gets his point across, better use Alien X with full control against this bunch of hybrids I could easily fight with my regular aliens
Ben normally:"I don't want ultimate power, I will only use it when absolutely needed."
Ben in that episode:"It's no use! Take this!"(Yeeting everyone with psychokinesis like Sonic 06 Silver)
I still have the DVD of this episode.
Me too. Duel of the duplicates
Hey fellas
You wouldn't mind sparing some ?
I still rember getting this from my old local library and other Ben 10 Ultimate alien DVDs.
@davidkuykendall3778 noice
@@christianparrish3292 And I remember getting Animaniacs DVDs on road trips and seeing this OV Episode that involves Ditto brings me a warm feeling to my nostalgic heart.
4:12 kinda looks like ed from ed edd n eddy
Must be the monobrow.
"Space Chickens, ed loves space chickens"
28:30 we haven't seen that in a while oh btw, other than Omniverse, Transformers Animated also has the electrical flash frames too.
First digital circus, then alan becker, now this. We are eating good this weekend
Wait alan dropped? GOING-
Alan Becker? 🤨
I loved the Alan Becker episode!
33:07 I call it "Pulling a Max" when ever they ram a vehicle into something.
By the title I already know he about be ruthless with this episode
I think he just overcriticizes everything.
@@nailthunder5945Nah, it's just y'all Ben 10 stans being unable to handle criticism and enjoying whatever slop is given to you
@@jeanduresau well it's a kids show, so..
Maybe albedo hit upchucks gag reflex, upchuck was attempting to eat solid matter and had energy forced down his throat so maybe his body went into shock or went down the wrong hole?.
4:23 Thankfully video editors like CapCut can fix the colors of this episode, I say It’s Specially necessary for having and preserving the best quality version of this episode because the DVD Version while it’s corrected it’s only in 480p, (Thought since this episode it’s considered not that great by a lot of the Ben 10 Community, I dont know if that’s a good thing to preserve this episode XD)
If someone has the episode downloaded and wants the method to fix the colors, Ask me in the comments because I did it myself and I will be very happy to help you guys :,)
“Why are they small?”
Do you think all the predators are all just massive from birth? How do we know that the predators in that ripoff Omnitrix weren’t the “absolute” versions of them as well?
12:36 LMAO the lipsync
It does genuinely look like that’s what he’s saying
honestly, these two episodes gotta be one of my favourites of ov alongside the last fight with malware. idk, these episodes seem to be just done right
See I kinda like the confidence while looking scared bit, I think it's like just for Ben personally so he doesn't shit himself from fear
Indeed
Hard copium
Yeah, Ben is the type of hero that would mock the villain even while knowing he's at a major disadvantage.
@@matti.8465 indeed. In combat than social situations in public.
No, Ben is just a sociopathic brat.
37:36
Animation errors are everywhere in this ep they escaped the fourthwall and made it into Kuro's editing of the points 😂😂😂
Albedo gets all the smug bastard rights, we love albedo
Khyber having birds is peculiar detail actually because when the show was still in season 1, there was a magazine with a coded message that literally says "Train birds to poo on Ben." I'm not joking, that is the exact message.
29:48 Yeah this is just not good character writing, Albedo got want he wanted all this time and yet he's still trying to double down on his revenge against Ben when he can just leave.
You bring up a good point about how they dropped the ball with not having ben fight all the predators at once, would have been a pretty cool parallel to when he first unlocked master control back in the Og series and was fighting Kevin and villgax in the null void to show how far he's grown in experience.
I hope the next episode, Ash is on there as he can talk more on the Ultimates and his not so favourite alien’s debut.
33:59 you could easily say it is possible to do deflect a missile by kicking if you have good reflexes. This isn't a big stretch in terms of ben10
Yes the episode that had the opposite problem as uaf and that it’s too bright 😂😂😂
28:55
I always saw this as while Albedo while his resentment against Ben is not logical it still doesn't just go away from his perspective he never felt he did anything wrong so that imprisonment (in his view) was always unjustified, with the Humiliation being things like having himself get stuck in his nightmare alien which itself he did as revenge for Ben ruining his machine (which he views as justified) and the chilli fries comment being more so how Ben's form has kinda just changed his own biology and mental thought process which ofc he brought on himself but would definetly be terrifying to experience and I can see from his own skewed sense of morality and principles why he'd have such resentment to go this far
And while he hasn't brought that stuff up beforehand I always felt he still always held that resentment for Ben for these reasons as motivation for alot of the future acts he did. With him saying that he's "over it" just being more like a "I've already won" type of thing (though that line was kinda weird)
That being said my issue is the line of Albedo saying "why do good guys always say that?" After Ben said it cause (I don't think) Albedo said or ever considered himself evil.
It's interesting how Nemetrix can change Hathorans into many different forms, while Omnitrix requires all of the clones to be held together. Do they still can merge?
It would make sense for Snorosians, as their clones are pretty independed, while Hathorans' clones are still one and the same entity.
I think it works because the clone-maker in the one wearing the Nemetrix. It has natural cloning powers before transforming into anything. An actual Splixon could probably do the same thing, if they put on the Omnitrix instead of Ben.
honestly i think that albedo's transition from "i will leave this backwater planet" to "do you think i will forget these humiliations" was justified back in UA. at the end of Double or Nothing albedo only strengthens the idea that ben is the cause of all the problems. in Night of the living nightmare albedo arrives in a psychological trip that being a complete copy of ben he is not able to defeat him. he is better than him by default, even without making absolutely any effort, i think what he went through in nightmare episode only strengthened his superiority complex as a kind of protection, which we see in his ov personality
thank you, using this anytime people say against OV Albedo
Just because it's "justified" doesn't mean it's good. Like I said in my own comment, we got a similar situation with Vlad Plasmius in Danny Phantom season 3, where after several humiliations from Danny he drops any form of friendly rivalry with Danny and just starts going full on evil with plans for World domination. It makes sense for his character that he'd snap, but it resulted in a far less complex or interesting villain - and as a result season 3 of Danny Phantom is generally seen as a downgrade.
It's the same with Albedo here. It makes sense that he'd snap after all he went through, yes, but the end result still is that we used to have an actual character with understandable and coherent motives setting him apart from just being an evil clone of Ben, whereas after this he's literally just an evil Ben with no depths. It speaks volume in my opinion that his plan at the end of the arc is a cartoonish supervillain plan that doesn't remotely line-up with his previous characterizations, and all his next appearances will feature him teaming up with Vilgax (which seems highly out of character given how it went the first time) and treated as just another generic villain, suggesting they no longer knew what to do with him once they removed his interesting motivation.
@@Theokal3 good or bad is a matter of opinion and personal preference. albedo has been a pretty stupid and arrogant character since his debut, who was ready to put the universe in danger because of stupidity and personal dislike for an "unworthy" human. even the creators themselves understand this and therefore roll him back in UA, because obviously everyone here is for albedo the villain, the doppelganger, the lover of chilli fries. back in the UAF era in the episode Double or nothing, a trigger from ben was enough for albedo to become fixated and obsessed again, this is at the root of his character, so I find it strange to reproach Omniverse for the fact that they literally continue what UAF established.
his personality in Omniverse matches the style and narrative of the show, he is still an entertaining character. just because there is no "redemption" theme that everyone talks about doesn't mean he is ruined, in fact he was always like that from the very beginning, it is just demonstrated even more vividly now
@@holika8265 Of course it's a matter of personal preference. I never made any pretense that I was objectively right in the above statement. If you still like him as he is here that's fine, but I disagree - and apparently so does Kuro.
And yes, Albedo always was portrayed as arrogant and... well not *stupid* in my opinion, but short-sighted. But there still was something sympathetic about his character in that his motivation went beyond just being evil or conquering the world, and he was generally presented as not particularly inclined to megalomaniac antics evil laugh; if you look at his previous appearances in AUF, he's usually pretty pragmatic and straightforward in how he acts, has no ambitions besides getting his old form, and drops the matter once he has his old form back (even if he's still a jerk). Even when he DID get comical, it was usually unintentional on his part. That's a stark contrast from his OV self who actively taunts Ben & co like a supervillains, exchange jokes with Ben, crack evil laughs, and then comes up with a ridiculous plan to steal Azmuth's brain - which doesn't match even THIS take because you'd think he already believe himself smarter than Azmuth. And please explain me how it makes sense for him to team up with Vilgax TWICE after this when Squidface betrayed him the first time and does it again the second. You're telling me him wanting revenge on Ben makes sense, but it's normal that he doesn't also want revenge on Vilgax?!
Also excuse me, but what is that "everyone talk about Redemption" thing you talk about? I haven't said anything about him being redeemed, nor did Kuro or anyone I saw here. He could be a complex character without getting redeemed, you know?
@@theamazingspooderman2697 sorry, not gonna work for me.
25:02 I mean he is saying that while looking like Ben so it's clearly meant as insult.
19:42 When Max suggests tracking tachyon emissions, I get the feeling the writers were suggesting Khyber's ship has a specific signature or they were going to cross-reference the Bem and tachyon signatures to eliminate some false positives.
In general, I get the feeling that the animators and voice director got differing memos from the writers and storyboarders on how Ben was to act given the mismatch of visials and delivery.
9:43 It will never not be cursed that his middle name is Kirby and his whole gimmick is transforming by er...copying other lifeforms technically.
11:55 I mean yeah, it's not even an Omnitrix, its primary function is just to make his own transformations permanent.
15:33 And this is a perfect moment where they should have written in something they already stated previously. That being that Ben really has no choice but to fight at a disadvantage when against the Nemetrix because it influences the Omnitrix.
Unless Phil just made that up and locking the Omnitrix into electrical aliens was his ability somehow, rather than the Nemetrix energy locking it to only allow for valid prey to be selected. Like seriously, that is a valid plotpoint that explains a lot of weirdness in Khyber episodes, why is it never coming up?
24:47 That's the most Albedo thing ever, change my mind.
26:57 Albedo really just cannot let his one success go, man. The ultimate function was that one thing and he just has to claw himself to it. Bro would probably see crimson if he knew that Azmuth badmouthed the function hard that one time.
28:40 The second time he mentioned his prison time in this episode, it must have legitimately sucked, especially because he was presumably thrown in while still dealing with trauma from the dream eater(Which btw, he still shouldn't have been this eager to stick with the ultinate function after that dream, I stick with that take).
Though yeah, he is just blaming Ben over the actual reason again. First time it was Hugh, now it is himself because he was obviously jailed for trying to put the thing on Ben in the first place. Even for how petty Albedo was before, this feels like character stagnation. They just flanderized his previous depiction rather than expanding in a new direction like the previous episodes with him did.
I mean the running away from all the predators part is realistic and kinda funny
what will you do after you finish ben 10 breakdowns?
Kuro's cat should get a counter too!
This is where the arcs in Omniverse start falling off. So few episodes are dedicated to the seasonal arcs that one mediocre episode can bring down the entire thing. And you'd think that these arcs would be fast paced but they still find ways to be bogged down by unnecessary fluff.
I agree with that take, or its like the time they take to dedicate to the main story of the seasonsal arcs could have been longer,Like the Mad Ben arc, instead of it being a 2 parter.
Yeah upon seeing these break-down, I really starts to feel like shoving every arc stuff in the finales became a detriment.
Time war arc is the only good arc from the second half bc it gets the treatment it deserves
@ahaha272 I'll take your word for it. Dropped before getting there and what I heard of it wasn't that impresive.
20:23 - I think that asset seems similar to the one in Ben 10 Omniverse when Ben was chased by the ants.
The iconic episode of the ditto retcon
You mean regarding his weakness? Now that I think about it, I don't think we ever see any of the clones get killed.
Knowing Rath’s species it makes sense why they wouldn’t have any natural predators.
That wasn’t even brought up at any time
Why did they kidnaped ben? Like what was the objective with that, they kind of just alerted ben of their plans there, they coud have just remove azmuths brain and after go off ben with the ultimate nemetrix
As sloppy as this episode is, I will always love the “hyperkinetic miscreant” line simply because it’s just a really wordy way of calling someone a Spazz and I find it extremely funny
Return of the breakdowns. It's a good day
27:27 he used brainstorm in ultimate alien too
Yay. Another Ben 10 breakdown, for my mental breakdown!
Why does Ben in the storyboards for this episode look so cool
Is he always like that in OV storyboards?
35:37 The Omnitrix ring was Green
My take is that albedo is literally insane in this episode. Like, his mind is so absolutely broken, his thirst for revenge has gone to his other brain, and is thus making other pieces of his thought process stop properly working.
Khyber is my favorite OV villain so I really enjoy any episode with the Nemetrix or his own combat skills
Just wanna say Ben wasn’t the one that trapped Albedo in the human form so I don’t understand why he still wants Ben
I would for you to make a compilation video of all your funny adlib lines you said during Ben 10 Omniverse intro
probs my first comment to yall at the ink tank but to ur question kuro, i mean i personally think the "left turn at alberkirki" works for ditto only because he is a reffrence in it of himself anywauys, the fact the animaniac alien makes the reffrence is that pass srry if anyone thinks thats a dumb reason
All aliens could have had potential ultimate forms
Your right and I wish Ben got back his ultimatrix after this arc.
It just cannot logically happen in-narrative unless one writes in a plot where Albedo steals the official Omnitrix, hacks it to include the ultinate feature, then has to either return it to Ben afterwards for some reason or it being taken back from him by force.
@@lpfan4491 But it happened before when Ben took Albedo's Ultimatrix before.
@@davidkuykendall3778 The whole reason the original ultimatrix was replaced was because it was a poorly made device full of bugs and lacking in failsaves. That thing is not coming back. And the new Ultimatrix is not an Omnitrix at all, it is nearly worthless to anyone who cannot already transform on their own.
1:58 yes, yes I do. It’s a really fun episode, some of my fav lines from Albedo like “I am not without compassion” come from here.
Since I'm from the Middle East
I never known that the color thing was an actual thing
But when I rewatched the series I noticed that the episode is much lighter than I remember it being
So I returned to the dub and saw it
And yes there's a difference
Thanks for mentioning this
It used to annoy me when I rewatched the series