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80 cabs... in one house. You must be dope at Tetris
Too fkn many! What’s 80 giving him that he can’t get from owning 10?
It's an addictive thing Man if I could and I had a big enough house I probably would do it.
He also sells a lot.
@@nuke1upgames913. Yep. GAS is a real thing
Kyle is smart enough to know a good catch phrase goes a long way. "Let's Do It!".
Cool video! I was impressed with the sound of the Blackstar oversized 4x12 guitar cab with the Celestion Vintage 30 speakers. It sounded good with all of your amps and you can pick out the differences in tone with each amp head. There's a lot of under the radar, unpopular brands of 4x12 cabs on the used gear market. I have played Line 6 Vetta slant 4x12 cab with Vintage 30 speakers at my friend's home studio and used to own & play the Peavey 412MS slant 4x12 cabs loaded with Celestion G12K-85 speakers. The stack of amp heads in your amp room is awesome!
Recently scored a Peavey Butcher full stack. Great sounding cabs, and amp to boot. Like the G12-85k's.
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Love the K85
80 cabs?!?!? How many have you played at once? I hate living in an apartment...
That’s the video we need to see!
Using 2 amps and 2 cabs in dual mono is amazing.
I think we most definitely need to see how you store 80 cabs!!! That has me more intrigued than anything. Would be amazing to see how bad your GAS is!
Sounds good! Well balanced and no annoying high end fizz
I have an old USA made CRATE oversized 4x12, and every amp that I've played through it sounded better because of it!
is it one of the front loaded ones with the old school stencil font logo?
@@JoelGrindMusic Yes. I spoke with St Louis Music several many years ago about my cab, and they told me that the speakers were Celestion Vintage 35's.
I'm currently running a Peavey Triple XXX through it.
@@gtrguy562 I have one of those too, they are awesome cabs!
I replaced the topend killing grill cloth with black Fender style grill cloth and the fizzy V30s with old G12t-75s in my slanted S1 cab.
Now it's monster. :-)
Those older G12T-75s are killer speakers.
We really need an 80 cab comparison video at some point with few classic heads like 5150, MarkIV and Rectifier.
the headfirst is pretty sweet
'Here we go!...'-My favorite phrase before...Chug chug chug! Awesome video.
I picked up one of these cabs a few years ago for cheap. A local music store had 2 Blackstar cabs left and they were blowing them out for cheap. Mine is the same exact cab you are demoing today. It is a very well built cab built very similarly to the Friedmans out there and even like an early Hiwatt 2x15 cab that I own. The wood is the same high grade Baltic Birch those makers use, 3/4” Baltic Birch. It sounds great with my Friedman Smallbox and I swapped a pair of the Vintage 30s out for a pair of Avatar/Fane M65s so now it’s a bit warmer, improved in character. I like it but it’s big, ungainly, heavy as all get out and its that old flat faced look that Im not too fond of.Some day Im going to replace the speaker cloths on both of my oversized 4x12s ( the other is a Mills Acoustics Afterburner which is actually slightly bigger as it’s the same height as the Blackstar but it’s 3 inches wider with Hiwatt style Salt and Pepper grillcloth so my rig looks more cohesive with matching grill cloths. If I get really ambitious I just might cut the Blackstar and the Afterburner in half so Ai would have more manageable 2X12 sizes. I don’t feel any need to get rid of them for anything else, I’m pretty happy with the overall sound of my rig. You have a great channel, im glad I discovered it a few months back, I’ve seen almost all of your episodes.Cheers!
one of the best cabs i have ever played through was the Premium Line 6 4x12 with V30's. That thing was amazing!
Glenn Fricker proved those cabs were actually really nice sounding. Used several speakers too
@@KelticKabukiGirl I also had Marshall 1960a cabs. The marshals were extremely cheaply made, the line 6 was definitely a superior product in every way
@@emailchrismoll I am a fan of my old Tubeworks Tweed 4x12 and Orange PPC412 myself. I have a Live440 orange tolex partial open back I have a brand new and super old set of 150w Eminence Swamp Thangs in to do a test comparison video to see the difference between broken in and new speakers and how long it takes to get to the "Broken in" tone. The square backs in my 1980 Peavey Classic 50 VT combo add a 4th speaker type to the mix and I am running an HM2 in one input and an MXR 5150 preamp pedal in the other input to blend. Kinda making my own Northern Mauler in that amp to mix into my RV100MKII and Dark Terror tones. I have a Micro Dark that powers the 2x12. Might get a Joyo Mjolnir for that one or a lower wattt Mesa Dual rec
I have one. It sounds better than my Carvin Legacy 412 loaded with V30s.
The Line 6 Vetta 4x12 cabs (both straight and slanted) with V30s were also great! Meshuggah and Ministry used them together with the Vetta heads for a good while.
Before I let it go, I would have had to experiment with some different speakers. Like maybe some WGS Veteran 30's. Or maybe Reapers. Something about the way WGS voices their speakers.
I bought an empty Blackstar oversized cab and loaded it with Celestion G12K-100 speakers. It was great!
Also, Marshal had a tall cab earlier than the Mode Four. For their 30th anniversary, when they did the first reissues of the Plexi and JTM45 there was the 1960TV cab. I have a 30th anniversary catalog with it in it. It was 1992. I bought one of the first 50 watt Plexi reissues at the time along with a different cab.
I'm really surprised by this, looks well constructed. 16 ohm speakers are generally brighter than their 8 ohm versions so you're probably right on why the Rockerverb sounded the way it did.
Yes, a cab review! @kyle bull could you do a few amps through the new 6505 cab you have?
People shit on Blackstar but they make some pretty good stuff.
I have an ht212 with seventy-80's that actually sounds really sick when mic'ed up.
It's an open back but it can be easily be modded into a closed back, something that I did, and when you do it sounds like a monster.
The cabinet ends up having the same resonance of a 412 and it sounds huge.
The seventy-80's are also pretty cool they have more lower mids and some treble spikes that add grind and make an amp sound more gained out. I actually played the ht212 along side a v30 212 and got a killer sound. I think if you put those two speakers in one cab you might have a crazy sound.
The problem with Blackstar is (or at least was) build quality/materials etc. Their amps were not made very well compared to other brands.
seventy 80 are great once broken in and pair well with V Type, IME
I only have one cab. It’s an awesome vintage Kasino cab that is heavy as a mofo but sounds incredible!
ALWAYS TUNING IN FOR YOU CONTENT BROTHER... THANK YOU!!!
Looks like the thread hanging off the top was just a thread of the grill cloth.
I have a pair of late 80's Oversized Fender 4X12 M-80's. I put v30's in one and V30's and 75's x pattern in the slant. 1" thick birch plywood. super duty baffles. Heavey as hell! They sound phenomenal!!
Cabinet sounds great
Love your channel keep up the hard work man.
AWWWWW yeah, HEADFIRST, great to see some Jason Tong love.
That mesa sounded fkn sick!½
You should do a review on the old basson 412. It’s oversized with eminence legends I believe
Just a note cabs vibrate different the more weight on top and can change some especially on a mic
That's good that there's not alot of content on these,that means everybody who wants to know about these cabs will watch your video.
Business strategy.
Just trying to figure out what 80 cabs looks like.. You should start a back line company
My fav cabinet is a Randall 412 Lynch box green gator
Love hearing different cabs. Dude have you heard or done a video on the warehouse retro 30 speaker?
Yep! I have a video on the channel for them. Def not my favorite speaker
I tested out Blackstar Series One 2x12 cab, feels oversized as well if I recall but loaded with G12T-75. If anything pretty much 1936 clone and the construction is pretty similar. Sounded awesome. I'm looking for one but pretty rare. Oh Series One line are discontinued.
i recorded one of these not long ago, it sounded magic!
I kinda liked the Mesa a bit more than the EVH, the top end fizz of the Mesa came through very nice. The orange sounded good until the chugs, maybe the bass needed dialed back or an eq in the loop to knock the 300-400 woof. Had the woof and flub not been there, woulda been at the top of my list.
To my ears it seemed like your EVH and Headfirst (especially after tweaking EQ) really like this cab. Mesa and Orange not so much- noisier in treble, as if they didn't like how the speakers loaded the amp. Overall, EVH and Headfirst were winners plugged into the BlackStar cab. I'm no expert but I know what I like. EVH was really good right out of the gate at your usual settings. Did you expect that?
No E standard thrash riffs or drop C hardcore riffs today fellas.
The EVH was definitely the best sounding. Never cared for Orange amps for metal,but it definitely sounded like hot dog ass more than with the cabs they typically come with.
To me, Orange is more of a Rock/Doom metal amp.
Those 16 ohm Chinese V30's sound fizzy.
I really do hear a difference between the Chinese V30's and the British Mesa V30's. I'm not a big fan of the Chinese V30's, they are too bright for me and sound kind of fizzy.
For some strange reason, several lower-cost manufacturers like B-52 and I guess Blackstar went through a phase when they [sold] overbuilt quality cabinets, and sold them far under the price floor of companies like Orange and Mesa. Thank gawd. I have two Carvin 212s and 2 B-52 412s for the price of maybe one new or good used Mesa. The speakers themselves are nothing to laugh at, either.
There are reasons for it being cheaper just saying man. It's not some kinda magic where they figured out how to make the best cabinet for less money. Good for the money though
Do you have any Orange Cabs or like them? I know they aren't oversized but they sound and are made amazingly. Also, tell Zach I still have my old Tweed Tubeworks 4x12 cab I got in 94😅
I think the Orange ruled.
Dang bro, you have more cabs than Guitar Center
Was the orange clipping the mic? It sounded like it, there was a weird fizzy clipping sound coming from it and only that one
Thought the cab sounded pretty darn good honestly. Are these definitely 16ohm vintage 30s in this cab? I agree, I can't stand 16ohm vintage 30s for metal honestly. 8ohm and 16ohm vintage 30s sound like two totally different speakers. 16 ohms are bright and almost fizzy sounding, 8ohms have a rolled off high end but with all the mids and tight low end you associate with a v30. A big part of the reason why I think Mesa 4x12s sound as good as they do, pretty sure they're 8ohm loaded, at least mine is.
This cab sounds like you could EASILY sit down and get the same tones as Ride the Lightning. Very smooth, dry, and solid.
And my wife thinks I’m bad with 412 #4 on the way…
Also for those who want cheap used V30 loaded cabs (this also includes you, Kyle) look for Line 6 Spider Valve and Egnater Tourmaster cabs. They can be had sub-$300 on GC used all day long. You’re welcome.
are they the chinese ones tho
@@C0nnie The Egnater cabs are Chinese V30s... not sure about the Line 6 but I have a Line 6 DT25 tube combo amp that does have a British made Celestion in it.
@@C0nnie I mean, V30 production moved to China in 2002/2003 so odds are yes. Now what kind of QC they did from each speaker to the next is a different story.
Idk what it is about Mesas but I really don’t like their tone lol. They sound maybe kinda muddy? That’s the only way I can think to describe it.
@11:25 Yep. That's the heavy cold-climate birch!
Hey Kyle, Do you want to sell your 2x12 metal grill Mesa cab?
Have you tried Avatar cabs with eminence legends?
I'm probably not up to date on my gear lingo because I haven't needed something this size for quite some time, but why is this designated as being an "oversized" cab? When I was playing little dive shows in the early 2000's I had a pawnshop Carvin 4 × 12 cab that seems like it was about the same size and it was always just the speaker component of my "half - stack" in my mind. It looked like it was a pretty average size among other "half - stack" rigs that I would see being used by other bands if I'm remembering correctly. A 2 × 12 cab is the only other size I've ever come across besides a full stack, ( which I've always heard was two 4 x12 cabs stacked on top of each other ) are 4 x12 cabinets available in various sizes?
All cabinet types come in dozens of sizes. Cabinet construction varies in tons of ways. Size. Slants. Baffles. Ports. Speakers. Ohms. Stereo vs mono.
@@colelewis9940 Thanks, I figured I was probably just clueless. I've never shopped around for actual stage equipment outside of that singular instance where I bought the first suitable rig I happened to come across.
you can get a slant and a straight cab
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 Yeah, that makes sense. I'm pretty sure the Carvin 4 × 12 cab I used to have was a slanted cabinet.
is this dual mic'd bro? with the 121&57?
$550 what the price of my VHT cab
I feel like every cabinet should be modified with different speakers.
How do you store 80 cabs? How big is your house? Do you store a cab at everyone's house that you know?
Maybe his house is made out of cabs
"I'm sitting on the floor you know what that means"
You can't afford chairs now cuz of all the gear? 😂
im a sucker for oversized. Just got a KRANK
Great video man. What is that string muting clip on your guitar? Been looking for one for ages.
U do know manufacturer have different lines of cabs some China garbage some made in England etc. This appears to be a more higher line Blackstar cab. U didn't mention what speaker is has
I absolutely did mention what speakers were in the cab, multiple times, in fact
Send this video to that **** Glenn Fricker.
How about a cab with 15,s lol idk
Friedman 412/15
Cab builder 👋🏼 That’s just plain ol 3/4” birch plywood. There is no commonly made ply thicker than that. I’d be willing to bet that it’s “heft” is just the addition material needed for the larger dimension cab. Even just a few inches in each dimension could easily add 10-15lbs to a can. That Russian ply is stupid heavy.
Just put a insulation dampening material in the box - the biggest deepest bass you ever hear from gutar cabinet
no more wistling hz resonant frequencies that peaks the ear . just saying . why the heck people leve guitar cabinets emty ?
That Orange sounded broken. You might wanna have that checked out by a tech. Something ain't right.
Just something goofy with the recording, sounds fine in the room
@@belligerentamateur Right on. Well, at least the amp is fine. 🤘🏻
And I thought my six cabs was alot..lol
not sure how thats oversized,looks like a standard 4x12 cab.
well, it's not? 😂 not hard to find the specs online.
@@belligerentamateur it was a simple question,no need to make fun of me.
@@belligerentamateur i was simply looking for diff between this and any other 4x12.sorry to bother you.
@@bryanbrewer4272 I have you the info you needed to answer your question
Most Chinese V30's sound like crap compared to the UK made ones (especially the 16ohm versions), so I'm surprised these speakers sounds pretty good. I think the newer (like 2020 and forwards) Chinese V30's sound better now, but I'm guessing that these are older than that? However, I'm not an expert in the history and different production runs of the UK and Chinese V30's, so I could be completely wrong.
Jesus dude 80 cabs?
5150 sounded the best, Headfirst was probably my least favorite
God that Orange sounds awful my guy
the boogie sounds phat.....i think it kills the 5150 tbh
Rectos using the treble at zero truck as in this video are petty beast. None of that weird graininess.
that wall of heads is sex