Sadder still, that was all "normal" to her. She didn't realize how wrong it was until she saw how her teammates were treated by their parents and coaches.
I still remember owning this on vhs and watching it over abd over as a kid and wondering how she was so good. Thinking how lucky she was.. no idea what she had to endure. The truth behind the lens. Shows us what we see outside is rarely the truth
@Eric Lee @Eric Lee She did not have it easy. Her father abused her, (and gave the Karolyi's permission to abuse her) stole her money, and put a hit on her coach's life. She was made to compete when she was broken, and then discarded when she couldn't perform. Just because she wasn't molested doesn't mean she had it easy. Dominique had a very traumatic childhood
God, this fluff piece was SO painful. "Little gift"?? They spent so much time infantalizing and hyper-controlling women's gymnastics, and then wondered why USAG spent decades covering up sexual abuse scandals... 🤦♀️
If you want to win the Olympics you gotta be tough. He has proven that time and time again. Bela makes winners. Bela wasn't the one who sexually assaulted them. That was Larry Nassar. If you got a dream it won't be easy but go out there and get it.
And now, her gymnasts who didn't make it as one of the better elites are coming out of the woodwork to tell the internet how abusive she is and how they "want to hold her accountable."
This is vile to watch now. I loved USA gymnastics back in the 90's-- the Barcelona and Atlanta games with all the world championships in between. I think this video was made before Nassar became the team doctor, but reverence for Karolyi in this video is still repulsive. Dominique Moceanu actually does not look happy in this recording, and now I think of it, she never looked happy in competition either:(
Glad someone said it, this video leaves such a sour taste in my mouth knowing everything we know now. It's so weird and creepy how the media used to portray these girls and revere these abusive creeps.
Brainwash for little girls - the violin music lol. bela karolyi, the man who makes dreams come true lol. He gives a big hug to winners, but what does he do to losers off the camera?
Nafees K Ironic that they feature both Kim and Dominique who had similar experiences at the Olympics. Karolyi the common denominator - what a coincidence.
Lily Anna not EVERY SINGLE..imagine an USA Olympic champion from 1936 or even 1908 the stuff they were doing is like level 3-4 now so let's start with every champion from the 70s till now...lol
@@ARIMY2 there are no AA champions from the US until Mary Lou in the 80s. Maybe....and that's a hard maybe, there is a champion on an apparatus, from before the 80s, but I doubt it you'd find a team in there. Definitely no team golds until 96 of course...
this Championships was about 6 weeks before Dominique Moceanu's 14th birthday Sept 30th 1995 and the team won all around team Gold at the Olympics about 2 mos. before her 15th birthday and she made the team in 2000 but withdrew due to a knee injury aged 18 years 9 mos. her birthday is Sept 30th 1981 she was the Youngest girl on the Magnificent 7 team while the oldest was Dominique Dawes aged 19 years 8 months born Nov 20th 1976
It's sad that shortly after this, they imposed the age restrictions. The age restrictions should be lifted - if they are talented enough to compete at that level, age shouldn't matter.
Definitely not... that much hard impact on such a young body has terrible consequences later on in life... and a 14 year old is too young for the emotional pressure of something like the Olympics.... gymnastics has traditionally done a terrible job of protecting their children... they need to be better
I think the age is appropriate. I mean I don't wan to see a 12,13 year loose their childhood cause they are training so much.. even Dominique and Tara Lipkinski has said they were to young to compete at that level.
Actually, most girls that are Olympic potentials are already training high numbers at that age anyway, and with the age restriction they have to do that for an even longer period to try for the Olympics four years later when they're older. Mentally I get the age restriction, but on they physical side of things, it forces another four or more years of training onto someone who's already training at a very demanding level.
With the age restrictions you can actually pace a gymnast. The young ones with Olympic potential, doing high levels of gymnastics now usually don't make it to 16 because they peak too early or get injured(keep in mind that the level of difficulty has gone up since 1995 as well). But when you pace yourself you end up with gymnasts like Aly and Simone, neither of which were stars when they were juniors, but they were paced perfectly, and became waaayyy stronger than they could have ever been as Jr's. Like the skills a 13 year old would need to beat those 2 wouldn't even be safe for most girls.
watch juniors if you want to see the best 14 year olds still, super easy to catch juniors' big meets. I agree the age restriction is a good thing, keep the younger teens from too much pressure.
The story about her & her sister that was adopted, omg! That about made me cry. Such an uplifting story about family & love between the two sisters was instant. After reading everything I can understand why Moceanu felt the way she did. I had many football & baseball coaches that were just like Bella. Hard on you because they don’t know any other way to be. I played in games with broken fingers, broken ankle, fractures on my tibias & I did if for my teammates. But I’ll be honest with anyone who reads this, there was no better feeling in the world to walk up to the huddle & your guys look at you like “we know you can pull this off for us.” & then throw a TD pass or even better a game winning TD pass. Unfortunately I worked full time my junior year of high school & was unable to play due to a TBI my senior year, ending both my football & baseball careers. So I reflect now on those coaches that were toughest on me & see why they were that way. I hope & pray that all of our Olympic athletes will understand what makes them special & continue to inspire. I hope they all find happiness after their careers are over.
I remember watching this as a kid and feeling so inspired and sad. Now watching this as a 39 year old, the commentator is evil with her words about Kim "staring at a lake and what if..." How disgusting to talk about her in this way as if she's a thing and not a person. Winning gold isn't everything. She's an amazing athlete. One competition on a certain day doesn't define how good you are. Any other day she could easily have won. Winning doesn't make you more or less of a person. So aggravating that I had to grow up with adults promoting behavior like this to "inspire" us.
She seems so staged. And at points confused. I am guessing its because that was nothing like day to day training... How crazy this is to see now that we know so much more. I have not read her book although I have heard her speak in interviews for years telling how things really were.
i think shes just bitter more than anything else... her gymnastics career basically ended after the 1996 olympics.. unlike Shannon Miller or Dominique Dawes, or Keri Strug as she aged she couldnt keep up with other gymnasts.. 1996 was basically the best her career ever got.. So she made everyone around her villains who destroyed her life.. Keri was with Bela for years, even went to other gyms and still went back to him, happily.. Kim went back to him on her own for help.. Mary Lou and Nadia also had nice things to say about him.. if he was such an abusive tyrant why did everyone else like being trained under him.. and clearly he wasnt a heartless jerk when Keri got hurt you could see how much it affected him..As for Marta she's coached tons of girls including the last gymnastics team from 2016 and those girls had nothing but positive things to say.. So maybe Dominique's dad was a tyrant and maybe he did abuse her.. thats on her parents.. but to talk negatively about 2 peoplewho did their best to coach you and who are beloved by everyone else theyve coached is BS.
Soooo many girls from the Romanian team have spoken out about their abusive behavior YEARS ago, and well as former staff in Romania. And unfortunately, thanks to the Nassar scandal gymnasts are less scared of speaking out now about the toxic environment at the ranch, and how it was one of the reasons "kind" Larry was able to slip through the cracks. Even Simone's coach has spoken out about Simone was emotionally mistreated by Marta. Also just because a gymnast had a good experience doesn't make another persons experience invalid. But it's not surprising people come out after their career is over, especially prior to the shakeup at USAG. Marta could cut you, and the USAG would try and silence or discredit you. AND they had even had lawsuits filed against them in recent years that are only coming to light now.
Objectively you could say noone will ever know if Bela was just a good actor appearing to care about his gymnasts, or if Domi 'overreacted;' but when it's between a grown man and a 14 year old girl, it's kind of a no-brainer in my book. If she *says* she was all torn up from feeling emotionally mistreated to the point she had to divorce her parents and her coaches, that's impossible to dispute if you ask me. Noone wants to go through something like that and if she were actually bitter, she wouldn't have huge terrified eyes while it happened, she'd look angry. So yeah, no. Also it's curious to me that so many men defend other men when smaller younger women feel attacked and mistreated by them, it's such an incredibly common human theme. If you want to be a good man your job is to be a fierce gentleman and protect those you say you care about, not to exploit and mistreat them emotionally and ignore when they have physical pain so you can win golds. Domi wrote that she craved Bela's affection and approval so badly she hurt all the time. When she finally reached the goal Bela and her father pushed her towards for so many years here's what happened: Bela completely ignored her and took off, leaving her without a coach and without any nod of approval. Her dad took all her money and ignored her requests to know what was being done with it, and when she finally found out by hiring a lawyer the money was pretty much gone. People who side with Bela and Domi's dad in this case either don't know the full story or believe it's still ok to exploit and abuse women. Which obviously it isn't.
It amazing how Dominique can put on a smile with all the pain behind it
Sadder still, that was all "normal" to her. She didn't realize how wrong it was until she saw how her teammates were treated by their parents and coaches.
I lost it at Bela on the boat omg
Hahahaha!!
And the dramatic music behind it😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahahahahahahhahaa
Lmao 🤣
I still remember owning this on vhs and watching it over abd over as a kid and wondering how she was so good. Thinking how lucky she was.. no idea what she had to endure. The truth behind the lens. Shows us what we see outside is rarely the truth
Wow. What we know now...hearing them calling Dominique an innocent when she also by this point had been so scarred.
@Eric Lee @Eric Lee She did not have it easy. Her father abused her, (and gave the Karolyi's permission to abuse her) stole her money, and put a hit on her coach's life. She was made to compete when she was broken, and then discarded when she couldn't perform. Just because she wasn't molested doesn't mean she had it easy. Dominique had a very traumatic childhood
I just love these fluffs or videos. They're like soap operas about to be narrated.
On a SEESAW?! She was starting high school, for christ's sakes! God, poor Dominique.
She was playing with her little sister, but yeah she was always treated like a child when she was a teenager.
That’s the same thing I just said.
Well, she was only 13. I would still love to find a seesaw these days, and I'm...well...much much older than that.
@@trishlamour7030 that's still a child...
@@trishlamour7030 as far as I'm concerned, 25 is still a child. Especially in today's world.
God, this fluff piece was SO painful. "Little gift"?? They spent so much time infantalizing and hyper-controlling women's gymnastics, and then wondered why USAG spent decades covering up sexual abuse scandals... 🤦♀️
Dominique was a beautiful girl
Ay que niña más dulce y adorable la amo!!
I still remember watching this on TV.
Love both, Dominique and Nadia Comaneci.
"Bela makes little girls' dreams come true." Ugh CRINGE! Knowing what we know now! And Dominique tried the sound the alarm 10 years ago.
Oh man more like 20 years ago, wasnt it...
If you want to win the Olympics you gotta be tough. He has proven that time and time again. Bela makes winners. Bela wasn't the one who sexually assaulted them. That was Larry Nassar. If you got a dream it won't be easy but go out there and get it.
Kerri strug sacrificed her leg for America. She is a hero and will never be forgotten.
@@timtags You go get it. Barf
2:14 theyre both smiling until bela starts to speak
It is nice that Kim is now successful coach
And now, her gymnasts who didn't make it as one of the better elites are coming out of the woodwork to tell the internet how abusive she is and how they "want to hold her accountable."
At Texas Nightmares????
This is vile to watch now. I loved USA gymnastics back in the 90's-- the Barcelona and Atlanta games with all the world championships in between. I think this video was made before Nassar became the team doctor, but reverence for Karolyi in this video is still repulsive. Dominique Moceanu actually does not look happy in this recording, and now I think of it, she never looked happy in competition either:(
Glad someone said it, this video leaves such a sour taste in my mouth knowing everything we know now. It's so weird and creepy how the media used to portray these girls and revere these abusive creeps.
I read off balance too. This clip makes me cringe and it’s so fake.
Bella and Marta should be locked up next to Nassar! There is no way in hell they didn’t know what he was doing...it was their ranch.
Omg this songs from legends of the fall.
Cheesiest vignettes in the 90s...omg...and now watching this after the whole Nassar scandal...now it's just creepy.
ooooooh my god what in the hell is this. I actually can't stop laughing
Brainwash for little girls - the violin music lol.
bela karolyi, the man who makes dreams come true lol. He gives a big hug to winners, but what does he do to losers off the camera?
Nafees K Ironic that they feature both Kim and Dominique who had similar experiences at the Olympics. Karolyi the common denominator - what a coincidence.
The music is from the movie Little Women
@@marieked It's from Legends of the Fall. It was written for that movie. It's called The Ludlows
I see the pain behind those eyes.
Imagine every single USA Olympic champion gymnast on a team now the would DOMINATE the Olympic gymnastics games
Lily Anna not EVERY SINGLE..imagine an USA Olympic champion from 1936 or even 1908 the stuff they were doing is like level 3-4 now so let's start with every champion from the 70s till now...lol
ari From the 1930s-70s, the Soviet Union dominated gymnastics so I highly doubt that you’ll find many US Olympic Champions from that era.
@@ARIMY2 there are no AA champions from the US until Mary Lou in the 80s. Maybe....and that's a hard maybe, there is a champion on an apparatus, from before the 80s, but I doubt it you'd find a team in there. Definitely no team golds until 96 of course...
She had to endure Bela and her dad
this Championships was about 6 weeks before Dominique Moceanu's 14th birthday Sept 30th 1995 and the team won all around team Gold at the Olympics about 2 mos. before her 15th birthday and she made the team in 2000 but withdrew due to a knee injury aged 18 years 9 mos. her birthday is Sept 30th 1981 she was the Youngest girl on the Magnificent 7 team while the oldest was Dominique Dawes aged 19 years 8 months born Nov 20th 1976
Yeah this is cheese, but I miss these theatrical montages about athletes using movie scores.
It's sad that shortly after this, they imposed the age restrictions. The age restrictions should be lifted - if they are talented enough to compete at that level, age shouldn't matter.
Definitely not... that much hard impact on such a young body has terrible consequences later on in life... and a 14 year old is too young for the emotional pressure of something like the Olympics.... gymnastics has traditionally done a terrible job of protecting their children... they need to be better
I think the age is appropriate. I mean I don't wan to see a 12,13 year loose their childhood cause they are training so much.. even Dominique and Tara Lipkinski has said they were to young to compete at that level.
Actually, most girls that are Olympic potentials are already training high numbers at that age anyway, and with the age restriction they have to do that for an even longer period to try for the Olympics four years later when they're older. Mentally I get the age restriction, but on they physical side of things, it forces another four or more years of training onto someone who's already training at a very demanding level.
With the age restrictions you can actually pace a gymnast. The young ones with Olympic potential, doing high levels of gymnastics now usually don't make it to 16 because they peak too early or get injured(keep in mind that the level of difficulty has gone up since 1995 as well). But when you pace yourself you end up with gymnasts like Aly and Simone, neither of which were stars when they were juniors, but they were paced perfectly, and became waaayyy stronger than they could have ever been as Jr's. Like the skills a 13 year old would need to beat those 2 wouldn't even be safe for most girls.
watch juniors if you want to see the best 14 year olds still, super easy to catch juniors' big meets. I agree the age restriction is a good thing, keep the younger teens from too much pressure.
Is this Legends of the Fall music?
That music playing in the back of this video was played in every single thing in the 90s it seems. I wish I knew the name of it.
That piece is from the 1994 film Legends of the Fall, composed by James Horner, track is called "The Ludlows".
The Ludlows. From the soundtrack of the movie, Legends of the Fall.
And to think she had a fractured tibia the whole time. So freaking sad!
Omg I remember this😂
Meanwhile, Keri was on a world wide search for a coach.
The story about her & her sister that was adopted, omg! That about made me cry. Such an uplifting story about family & love between the two sisters was instant. After reading everything I can understand why Moceanu felt the way she did. I had many football & baseball coaches that were just like Bella.
Hard on you because they don’t know any other way to be. I played in games with broken fingers, broken ankle, fractures on my tibias & I did if for my teammates. But I’ll be honest with anyone who reads this, there was no better feeling in the world to walk up to the huddle & your guys look at you like “we know you can pull this off for us.” & then throw a TD pass or even better a game winning TD pass. Unfortunately I worked full time my junior year of high school & was unable to play due to a TBI my senior year, ending both my football & baseball careers.
So I reflect now on those coaches that were toughest on me & see why they were that way. I hope & pray that all of our Olympic athletes will understand what makes them special & continue to inspire. I hope they all find happiness after their careers are over.
You should read Dominique's book. She goes into a lot of detail about her journey and it's dang inspiring :)
It's really sad the fake smiles they made her put up with her training videos they put on there with Bela...
Podrá haber muy buenas gimnastas... pero el impacto que causó Nadia jamás se repetirá.
Yoooo this is some wild shit. from start to finish.
That ranch looks real nice to live a retirement
Bela was tough and that’s why he produced champions.
I remember watching this as a kid and feeling so inspired and sad. Now watching this as a 39 year old, the commentator is evil with her words about Kim "staring at a lake and what if..." How disgusting to talk about her in this way as if she's a thing and not a person. Winning gold isn't everything. She's an amazing athlete. One competition on a certain day doesn't define how good you are. Any other day she could easily have won. Winning doesn't make you more or less of a person. So aggravating that I had to grow up with adults promoting behavior like this to "inspire" us.
Not disagreeing with you but the narrator was simply reading from a script. This was her job, she clearly wasn’t personally criticizing KimZ.
My girlfriend in 1996 😍
amazing
She seems so staged. And at points confused. I am guessing its because that was nothing like day to day training... How crazy this is to see now that we know so much more. I have not read her book although I have heard her speak in interviews for years telling how things really were.
Dominique has a long lost sis
Hol'up...did the narrator say he "built a lake with his own hands"?
micky hoffman he did, he dug it out with a bulldozer. They’ve shown previous fluff pieces after the 1992 games where he’s doing it.
Filled it up with uncried tears of children
Built a lake with his own hands eh?
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IDK WHO TO BELIEVE WITH ALL THE DRAMA OMG
It's like some SNL skit.
This could not be more corny.
Is Bela a creep? Or am I dumb?
Cool
Hey Dominique its me Jenna you signed a picture for me
NBC fluffy cheese at its finest!!
Absolutely. Poor thing.
Dang, can this be any cheesier? And how original, comparing her with Nadia.
If this isn’t the definition of propaganda 🙄
This is so cringeworthy now, 25+ years later! No pressure?! I can only hope that Dominique didn't see this back then.
oh my god. i cant even handle the cheese here...
This would be cheesy as hell if you didn’t know about the Larry Nassar scandal but now it’s creepy
hahaha this is so corny! :P
i think shes just bitter more than anything else... her gymnastics career basically ended after the 1996 olympics.. unlike Shannon Miller or Dominique Dawes, or Keri Strug as she aged she couldnt keep up with other gymnasts.. 1996 was basically the best her career ever got.. So she made everyone around her villains who destroyed her life.. Keri was with Bela for years, even went to other gyms and still went back to him, happily.. Kim went back to him on her own for help.. Mary Lou and Nadia also had nice things to say about him.. if he was such an abusive tyrant why did everyone else like being trained under him.. and clearly he wasnt a heartless jerk when Keri got hurt you could see how much it affected him..As for Marta she's coached tons of girls including the last gymnastics team from 2016 and those girls had nothing but positive things to say.. So maybe Dominique's dad was a tyrant and maybe he did abuse her.. thats on her parents.. but to talk negatively about 2 peoplewho did their best to coach you and who are beloved by everyone else theyve coached is BS.
That's what I think too....
Soooo many girls from the Romanian team have spoken out about their abusive behavior YEARS ago, and well as former staff in Romania. And unfortunately, thanks to the Nassar scandal gymnasts are less scared of speaking out now about the toxic environment at the ranch, and how it was one of the reasons "kind" Larry was able to slip through the cracks. Even Simone's coach has spoken out about Simone was emotionally mistreated by Marta. Also just because a gymnast had a good experience doesn't make another persons experience invalid. But it's not surprising people come out after their career is over, especially prior to the shakeup at USAG. Marta could cut you, and the USAG would try and silence or discredit you. AND they had even had lawsuits filed against them in recent years that are only coming to light now.
She was injured with stress fractures
Objectively you could say noone will ever know if Bela was just a good actor appearing to care about his gymnasts, or if Domi 'overreacted;' but when it's between a grown man and a 14 year old girl, it's kind of a no-brainer in my book. If she *says* she was all torn up from feeling emotionally mistreated to the point she had to divorce her parents and her coaches, that's impossible to dispute if you ask me. Noone wants to go through something like that and if she were actually bitter, she wouldn't have huge terrified eyes while it happened, she'd look angry. So yeah, no.
Also it's curious to me that so many men defend other men when smaller younger women feel attacked and mistreated by them, it's such an incredibly common human theme. If you want to be a good man your job is to be a fierce gentleman and protect those you say you care about, not to exploit and mistreat them emotionally and ignore when they have physical pain so you can win golds.
Domi wrote that she craved Bela's affection and approval so badly she hurt all the time. When she finally reached the goal Bela and her father pushed her towards for so many years here's what happened: Bela completely ignored her and took off, leaving her without a coach and without any nod of approval. Her dad took all her money and ignored her requests to know what was being done with it, and when she finally found out by hiring a lawyer the money was pretty much gone.
People who side with Bela and Domi's dad in this case either don't know the full story or believe it's still ok to exploit and abuse women. Which obviously it isn't.
It is clear you don't understand abuse.
this is so cringey the way they put this together
Corny!
This makes me sick. The music, the voice, gross. Just gross