I've had mine for about a week now and the first two days I couldn't get over the nagging feeling that it had a considerably large dead zone out of the box. I was noticing sluggish movement still even after adjusting my dead zones in-game for like 3 hours in multiple games trying to get to the bottom of it. I saw a Reddit post saying they also felt this but no one mentioned it improving. I decided to update the controller with the Xbox accessories app and luckily I noticed a major improvement in the responsiveness of the controller afterward. If someone here happens to get the controller and feels the same thing give that a shot. I was on the verge of returning it and it was sad cause I like this controller lmao
@@vCuda hi bro, i love you're video's and by watching them i still don't know what is the best 4 paddle xbox controller. Wich controller do you recommend to me? Money ain't no problem i had multiple elite v2's and 1 aimcontroller
@@vCuda i feel like the paddles from the fusion pro 2 are to cheap and loose, i need a controller with good trigger stops. Considering the scuf instinct pro or a elite 2 again....
I must have hot the jackpot because I've been using my Scuf for about 800 hours now and have had absolutely zero issues. I did replace the thumb sticks about 50 hours ago because I felt like they were getting a little worn down, they didn't look any different but they did feel a little odd, they're back to normal now and the entire controller still feels new to me. I've been VERY impressed for a controller that I was told wouldn't last long.
Haven’t finished the video yet but, please update again whenever you notice defects or problems with the controller! Will be curious to see how long that takes
My Elite Series 2 had one paddle half stop working and the A/B buttons sticking and all happened at same time its weird, but had the controller for like 3 years. Worked flawlessly the entire time. Just ordered the Scuf yesterday and gonna order another elite 2 just in case bc ik that's for sure reliable.
I’ve been through 3 elite 2s and just recently my elite 2 got horrible stick drift on both sticks, when I looked at my warranty sticker, I realized that was 6 days too late to cover it under warranty so that was frustrating but ultimately my fault for not checking earlier. I just ordered the instinct pro to try something new for a change because I really love the elite 2 but these problems are just too common. For anyone who’s in the same boat as me and still wants a second opinion on whether to keep the elite 2 or to try the new instinct pro, come back to this comment on the 5th or 6th of April and I’ll give you my thoughts on the controller. Just a FYI, I play warzone semi competitively. Anyways thanks for the review great as always! Edit: sorry if you were waiting on an update from me yesterday, but I feel like I need like 3 or 2 more days and I will confidently have an answer for you guys thx! Edit 2: So after enough playing time, I feel like I came to my final conclusion. The conclusion that I came to was that, this is definitely one of the best controllers I played with. However it doesn’t completely over shadow the elite 2. Just for some context, I never liked trigger stoppers, they always felt weird to me and these were kinda no different. They definitely feel better then just regular trigger stoppers but that’s all I can really say about that aspect of the controller I had to disable it after a few matches I just felt that it didn’t really give me an edge as I already have a decent trigger finger, if you are one of those people that like having the trigger stoppers on then these will definitely fell fantastic, I myself never gravitated to stoppers so I feel like my opinion on the hair triggers don’t matter too much. The PADDLES/BUTTONS felt pretty good. I rarely use all 4 of my paddles on the elite 2. I Manley use just two, the reason for that is I never really liked using all 4 as it felt like I didn’t have a good grip on the controller, but with the design on this controller it felt funny at first but I kinda got used to it and liked it , definitely not for everyone as I read that people don’t really like the ergonomics of the paddles. If you were just like me and only used 2 paddles then this shouldn’t be a problem, I never once hit the other button by accident and those extra buttons are there just in case you ever want to use all 4. So just to wrap things up I will say that if you really don’t have money to throwing around then I can’t comfortably recommend you this controller but if you are fortunate enough to afford one then I promise you that you’ll love the controller. I would personally give both the elite and the new scuff an 8/10. They both feel great but like I said, this scuff is not levels ahead of the elite 2 so don’t feel like you need to buy this in order to compete at the highest level. Hopefully that was easy to read/understand, if anyone still needs some advice on which to pick, fill free to comment below and I will try to answer.
JUST SENT IN THE INSTINCT PRO FOR REPAIR ON THE LEFT THUMB STICK FOR TERRIBLE STICK DRIFT... DO NOT BUY. MY VANTAGE 2 SCUFF IS TILL LASTING LONGER WITH BROKEN PADDLES....
On my second elite and the RB is shit, had to switch it to one of the back paddles. About to buy my third and that’s it for me with the elite series after
I came into this video thinking this is gonna be a kid who has no idea 😏 boy I was wrong . Good job young man 🤘you made my decision for me and I'm not even second guessing which is something I always do . Keep up the good reviews and don't change .
I have had my instinct pro since about November of last year and it is by far one of the best pro controllers I have ever used. I personally like the side buttons because the way I hold my controller my fingers fit perfectly in between them so I can access all 4 with my middle fingers but I get why people wouldn’t like them
@@paperchaserttv8754 power A are cheaply made there so bad the sticks are loose buttons just feel cheap the best budget route is a regular Xbox one controller and adapt to playing claw
@@4Zemy I play claw still not full proof if needing to like slide and jump and reload or doing that and trying to slide jump swap guns...at a certain point you need back buttons.
@@paperchaserttv8754Ive got a power a spectra infinity and I was impressed at first but wow did I came to conclusions why this only cost 40bucks. I had severe stick drift after just one week no kidding while noticing that the right stick wasnt even centered. And your aim is also significantly worse due to the higher stick resistance including the larger deadzone which makes godlike aim impossible.
I’ve had mines since the second batch came out (they sold out on the first go around), so a few months now. No button problems, no disconnection issues, no wear and/or tear on the thumbsticks or controller. I play mainly Warzone and it’s treated me good this far.
Thanks for the video good review, somehow the bell notification didn't work didn't know about the video till now, noticed you have a new video will watch it now.
ive had my custom instinct pro for 3 months now and i will say i havent had a single issue with it and it has only disconnected 1 time. no drift it feels lightning fast and responsive more so then my elite series 2. mine came with a tall boy and honestly wont use my series 2 ever again lol i guess i got lucky or the quality control of the custom products is just way better.
I switched from scuff to the Elite 2 and have no problems. all of my thumb sticks and paddles are still in one piece, and oddly enough I havent had any stick drift. Also I have used the drift fix before, and I can confirm that it is the best thing ever. worked perfectly, and wasnt hard to install. the only difficulty I had was getting the dang controller apart.
you can fix strick drift on any Xbox controller much easier. Just plop the green sensor off to leave a little space between. Voila fixed. ruclips.net/video/DIOfDVTDqRQ/видео.html short version is here.
I’ve had it for 8 months, and I was very happy with it until the last firmware update. Now it registers every input twice when on Xbox dashboard, and it registers an upward input on my right thumb stick, even on a large dead zone. Hoping the next update fixes all the bugs.
@@Kyxul I learned it was actually my mous ebeing connected via Bluetooth or whatever, I disconnected that and it worked. HOWEVER, HORRIBLE SCUFF UPDATE. OWNED FOR 4 MONTHS ONE PADDLE BROKE AND IT STARTED TO HAVE HORRID STICK DRIFT ON THE LEFT STICK. GOT IT FIXED.. NOW THE WARRANTY WILL PROB RUN OUT WHEN THE PROB HAPPENS AGAIN... BE WARE.. /:
Bought the Instinct Pro at the beginning of February. After the first day I started noticing the LT trigger stop wasn't working properly, it wasn't stopping the trigger properly and felt like it was double clicking. Next day same with the RT. So I returned it for repair and got it back quickly but after a couple of days it happened again. Sent it back for another repair and again, after a few days I had the same problem. Returned it and got a refund. The controller felt great but with the piss poor warranty I wasn't willing to take the chance of the best part of the controller failing again. £200+ was too big a gamble for what you get. Have since bought the Razer Wolverine v2 Chroma and although I've only had it a short time it is working flawlessly, which is more than I can say for the multiple Scuf, Battle Beaver and Elite Series 2 controllers I've had in the past couple of years.
For your disconnection problem (maybe): in windows USB peripherals are by default set up to be shut down after some time to save power. For decades that's the first thing I disable whenever I install Windows. You can find it in device manager. In the list of USB tree and each peripheral you'll find something like power option/ shut down this peripheral to save power... I do it for each one + mice, keyboards...
I thought you said you weren't getting a vitrix, but hey, I'm not complaining in the slightest. I'm getting one soon myself, so can't wait for that one. Keep it up man
I was kinda excited for once about Scuf when I first saw the controller launch, I think I’ll still pick one up just because, but I’ve actually bought the Elite Series 2 multiple times now and it’s just because it’s such a great controller, granted it does have its quality control issues, but the fact that I keep buying them just goes to show how much of a well rounded controller is for all game types, but this was a great and informative video as always bro 💪🏾🔥
@@GoatHeadedBoy1 yeah cuz he has no idea what he’s talking about! I have purchased 3 elite controllers so far and none of them have been regretted, when I don’t have one I just can’t Xbox, lol.
If you pick it up I’m sure you will stay elite 2 gang! The elite is just a well rounded controller and feels premium compared to almost everything out there and in my opinion I don’t think it will be topped lol
@@bndtx3 not everyone has disposable money to keep replacing theirs or time, it's honestly so dumb how often they break for the price. even if yours isn't defective, I guarantee the cheap ass micro switches for the bumper will break anyway. elite series 2 isn't worth the time and I have owned 1
@@zipp9639 If your under those circumstances then why not just buy a less expensive brand and smash away. Electronics are always going to be a hit or miss no matter what brand it is. If I ever show my collection of controllers it doesn’t even look like I use them, I know what Im getting myself into before I purchase anything. Both elite and scuff are top tier in my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Love your vids and setup, I've purchased a wolverine and elite series 2 thanks to your vids, keep it up champ, now time for another irrisponsible purchase
honestly i went through the elite series 2 and v2 chroma over the past several months and none have felt as great as the instinct pro. i do not regret the cop one bit, feels so great. no problems as of yet, but let’s see a year in
Exact same journey and have just ordered the pro. Liked the v2 but the paddle placement is horrendous. 4 months later and I'm getting drift issues. One day we will get a £200 control thats lasts more than 6 months!
I’ve had mine since day one and just today I got an issue with one of the back paddles and when I hit them up for a warranty fix but I noticed it happened as soon as the warrant ended smh like 1 week after😑
I got my scuff instinct pro a month ago and I've had no issues. That being said I only use it wirelessly for my series x. It's always wire on pc as Windows 10 is notorious for randomly "forgetting" to register the fact I have drivers installed for the Bluetooth functionality lol.
Loving my Xbox Elite v2 but I got lucky with a good one. I could see how it could drift on some games because the sticks have zero, I mean zero dead zone which is a good thing. If they start to drift a little you can adjust dead zone.
Yeah, but these controllers have only been around for 4 or 5 months I believe. I'm glad they aren't dying immediately, but the real test is the 6-9 month mark, no pun intended lol. Although with the performance of stock XSX and XB1 Controllers, idk how well that'll fair
Just picked this bad boy up last night and I have to get used to it since I am a 100% elite 2 user lol but gotta admit the build is quite nice and the new paddle design (back buttons) are pretty nice and easy to use i can actually use all four without even trying lol the elite 2 I can only use 2 comfortably for now I would highly recommend if you are in the market for a new pro controller that fits the series Xbox setup since I really enjoy the style of the new series controllers
I had just ordered mine today. i was originally trying to get my Prestige serviced, but apparently they retired the line and gave me 50% off a new controller.
@@REXae86 that’s what’s up! Idk about the haters but this is my first scuff and it’s so beautiful I don’t even wanna use it haha so far I love it and the triggers are insane hope you have a good time with yours ! Happy gaming my friend!
@@Love_N_Let_Live its perfect! everything is working properly. unlike the og Prestige that used a idiotic magnetic that would reset the paddles, this one is an electronic. hope yours is a good one as well.
I've missed yall too. Sorry I haven't been around as often. Every time I try to get back into the swing of things I'm taken out of it again. Hopefully things are different this time
The Razer Wolverine Ultimate V1 edition is about 65$-80$ on Amazon that controller obliterates this one. But you know I got it cause of you and if it breaks I’m just buying another ultimate for cheap now
Finally a video in my feed not about the oscars or some problem in the world. last three days even gamers I watch have done nothing but be silent. This is a refresh
No Dpad discussion? The absolute most important point for competitive fighting game players who may be seeking reviews... (Street Fighter 6 has just come out and MK1 is coming out soon) It might be smart to consider testing and reviewing this aspect.
I always will if it's noteworthy, but in this case it's simply a stock XSX D-Pad. I've heard many who play fighting games enjoy the XSX D-Pad very much, but I didn't think it was something to focus on in this review. There are many pro controllers much cheaper that would likely be better for fighting games in terms of value-per-dollar like the GameSir G7. Which has an absolute AMAZING clicky D-Pad and ABXY buttons for only $45. But its wired, and doesn't come with physical trigger stops, only software related trigger adjustments
@@vCuda Thanks. This is a good controller I heard a lot of good things about it. I am really enjoying the Xbox Series X dpad, comparing it to DS4, DS5, Vitrix Pro, and Xbox Elite, for fighting games. It has the best balance of comfort and precision, most importantly precision and capability of easy 360 inputs.
i feel like the problem with some of these review videos, is that they dont consider every type of consumer who would be interested in this item, it seems like you like to play with this controller wired. why? me personally i cannot go back to wired i just hate it. for me the reason i am most interested in this controller, is NOT simply because it has clicky switch triggers. its because it has a faceplate that removes with replacable sticks and easier access to repaire the sticks if further damage occurs, and because it takes double A batteries. this is a big deal because you can literaly get rechargable batteries for it and never worry about it. so the option is nice. to me, it is rdiculous that the elite 2 controller doesnt have that option. so, yes, nice triggers, nice access to sticks, custom faceplates, great rubber grip, same quality of series s controllers, still updatable through xbox controller app on windows, and has replaceable D-pad as well. basically, for me i was searching for an xbox series s controller with better features and more user friendly repair options and battery pack custom possibility. and thats exactly what the instinct pro is. AND you can buy a motion control add on that outputs through steam as ps4 controller, which means, basically you get all those amazing options, and you can use motion controls for shooters. its the most custom controller for me, and i love that. even the elite 2 pales in comparison. yes custom stick tension would be cool, but....i mean. im a big fan of motion controls so, its kind of useless to me anyway.
So basically You feel like the problem with these review videos is that they don't discuss the things you want them to discuss? lol I use it wired because the response times are more consistent and I don't have to have batteries in. I'm on PC as well, so its way easier to use wired. Its weird that you say you're interested in the instinct pro for the removable faceplate and thumbsticks, when I've literally reviewed $80 controllers that do the same thing. What I mean is, this is an unbelievably common feature that can be found on multiple controllers under $200. This is why I said the only interesting feature on the controller is the clicky triggers. Which is objectively true, all the features here aside from those can be found on other, cheaper custom controllers with longer warranties so their existence invalidates the Instinct Pros in most scenarios I understand that you enjoy the instinct pro, but take a second to think about the amount of money you paid for it. Look at a controller like the Victrix Gambit, its a wired controller thats $100, claims to be the fastest Xbox controller, and has damn near as many features as the Series 2. Price to Performance matters man!
vader 3 pro is pretty damn good and half the price IMO. I've heard out of box issues, but mine is perfect. From MY experience. I recommend. Gamer Heaven seemed to have a good opinion about it as well.
Hey bro i love your channel man! I was wondering will you ever do a stick drift video fix with the helders fix on the scuf instinct pro cause i have to fix mine but I don’t know how
I modded a PS5 controller a while back and I'm getting addicted to the higher stick tension on it. My Razer controllers are feeling pretty imprecise in comparison. Might try out that gambit controller since it's not too expensive and I have a problem.
I have a Gambit and i love it. I only use the two paddle because the four is too close for me but everything else is solid. I also like the Dolby Atmos and two year warranty included
No, Severe stick drift after 6 month and 20 days...out of warranty, Scuf said it would have to be rebuilt and at least $100 to fix. Sorry, going back to Elite 2 with the $60 extra warranty.
Thats what happens when you buy from scuf,its made to break and its overpriced for no reason...i don't feel bad for you tho, research before making that Kind of investment...
@@tempestzz5682 The research for this controller was virtually non-existent since it was a newly released design. I was not asking for your sympathy rather trying to share an early review and confirmation that despite a really good button layout and mouse-click bumpers the joysticks are still as cheap as any other controller out there and their warranty is horrible which I knew when I purchased it. Not sure why you had to be toxic but I wish you well in your happy life, cheers!
Strangely the only issue i have had with my instinct pro was the right bumper stopped working. Sent it in and got it back fast. But that was a month before the short warranty ran out. Probably won’t buy another for the price. Not when i have a working Elite 2 i don’t use and it still has 1.5 year of warranty left
I “upgraded” my elite series 2 with the scuf sticks and back buttons. I agree that the joysticks are starting to crumble. But the buttons are way nicer than the Microsoft ones like way fucking better
The instant click triggers aren't as good for FPS games IMO. They require more force and I've noticed that clicking will slightly move my thumb every once in a while. I think using the trigger stops on the elite has more of an advantage
@vCuda I bought a razer wolverine tournament edition based off of the review you did and have loved it. Unfortunately, after being my daily driver for almost two years its starting to develop stick drift and response issues. It seems that razer has discontinued making the four button model. Any word on if they would bring it back? Keep up the good work my friend!
After 4 months using the new scuf elite my bottom right button snapped off. Really thought this integrated button design would fix paddles/buttons from breaking.. I guess things never change
@@vCuda seriously bro. I use that bottom right button as my A button (jump button) so I use it more than all the other buttons. But geez after 4 months using it it snapped clean. It’s being held by tape and it works just fine. Didn’t expect this button design to fail :(
I’ve mentioned before that mine arrived with excessively large dead zone. Scuf basically told me to go F my self. So I have an Instinct Pro with about 30 min of total play time on it. If anyone feels they might not be as picky about their sticks I’ll gladly sell it to you lol. I honestly really like the Victrix Gambit that you showed in the video. I hate that I love the Elite V2, but hey, that’s what Best Buy warranties are for. The Gambit and Wolverine TE are my other top 2 contenders. Whyyyyy did they stop making the TE?! Anyone know?
The TE is an Xbox one Controller and they wanted to push their new XSX Controllers, so they stopped selling the old ones even though they Still work on the new consoles. It's super unfortunate And I'm sure someone here will take that scuf off your hands, there's a lot more DIY people on the channel nowadays so hopefully someone can fix it up
@@Septentrional33 hey bro, I just got my v2 chroma, and put it on 1 in the app, but the sticks on screen shake a tiny bit. Is this normal or does this mean I have stick drift?
@@mjsmjs2765 yes it should shake a bit if you se the numbers on the x and y axis fluctulating to 0- x a number it could be small drift but remeber no stick recenters perfectly so just give the stick a tap and see if it lands on x 0 y 0 then you know its just the recentering of the stick Fyi im using setting 1 answell the left stick is abit more on drift but The right one basically have 0-2% drift wich is perfect this shows in the app where it goes x axis 0 then 2 y axis 0 then 1 and so on
Doesnt usually at this 3 month mark the old gen scuf is when the joysticks wear off? Its crazy how the rubber of the new gen scuf controller joysticks is now similar to the joystick of normal controllers, big improvement
Had 2 series 2 controllers first stopped connecting to my PC after 4 months the second had real bad stick drift after a few months they are nice but poorly designed just ordered my first scuf hopefully they are different
I feel like for the money the Razer wolverine TE is a better buy. The trigger stops aren’t clicky obviously but they’re still good. And it’s been out for a looong time now
OK I just got this for my birthday so I'm hoping they have fixed some of the issues or all of them. But all the ones u have showed on the screen other than that I had got stick drift on all of them. So I went for a more expensive option.
Don’t buy this controller the fact you’re spending £200+ on a controller that still has the same analogue sticks as a £40 standard controller is ridiculous I got stock drift in 5 months. Fuck this controller
great video cuda, i got my scuf instinct pro same time as you everything still works great on mine just like day 1 the only weird problem i have with mine and even with any new first party series x/s controller is when im hardwired to my pc playing a game after about an hour the controller turns off then on and proceeds to connect and turn on my series x in the other room lol i work around this by taking out my rechargeable battery out my controller then everything is good for the most part lol but ya its a weird issue i think could be taken care of with a future firmware update for these xbox controllers, anyways as always great video vcuda 👍🏽
@@itsprod.472 I just want the Focus and Agile software to work the way it should and actually be thumbstick sensitivity overwriters. Razer would truly have the ultimate pro controllers if they reworked this feature
My Power A spectra infinity feel so much better than the original Xbox controller which is what keeps me from getting the scuff 🧐 all I need is the digital triggers. Power A falls all the time and still ticking 😁
Do you still use it? If so, How to the mouse click triggers feel now? I just ordered mine, switching from a thrustmaster eswap X, hopefully I’m not disappointed 😂
I've had mine for about a week now and the first two days I couldn't get over the nagging feeling that it had a considerably large dead zone out of the box. I was noticing sluggish movement still even after adjusting my dead zones in-game for like 3 hours in multiple games trying to get to the bottom of it. I saw a Reddit post saying they also felt this but no one mentioned it improving. I decided to update the controller with the Xbox accessories app and luckily I noticed a major improvement in the responsiveness of the controller afterward.
If someone here happens to get the controller and feels the same thing give that a shot. I was on the verge of returning it and it was sad cause I like this controller lmao
I'd also recommend everybody to try and update their Instinct. I didn't for the first week because I hadn't used it on my Xbox until then lol
@@vCuda hi bro, i love you're video's and by watching them i still don't know what is the best 4 paddle xbox controller. Wich controller do you recommend to me? Money ain't no problem i had multiple elite v2's and 1 aimcontroller
@@Lars-.- Its gotta be between the Victrix Gambit, Fusion Pro 2 in terms of OVERALL performance. They're decent 4 button/paddle controllers
@@vCuda i feel like the paddles from the fusion pro 2 are to cheap and loose, i need a controller with good trigger stops. Considering the scuf instinct pro or a elite 2 again....
@@BLNKT. Can you? I want to know that as well. Anyone know?
Damn I love your reviews. You tell pros and cons as they are. Humour, memes and its timing is spot on. Good job man. Keep up with the good work!
I must have hot the jackpot because I've been using my Scuf for about 800 hours now and have had absolutely zero issues. I did replace the thumb sticks about 50 hours ago because I felt like they were getting a little worn down, they didn't look any different but they did feel a little odd, they're back to normal now and the entire controller still feels new to me. I've been VERY impressed for a controller that I was told wouldn't last long.
Came for the Scuf review because I’m a 37 year old dad who loves this shit.
Subbed for this being fuckin hilarious.
Haven’t finished the video yet but, please update again whenever you notice defects or problems with the controller! Will be curious to see how long that takes
Took me one year for the two paddle buttons tu break 😢
My Elite Series 2 had one paddle half stop working and the A/B buttons sticking and all happened at same time its weird, but had the controller for like 3 years. Worked flawlessly the entire time. Just ordered the Scuf yesterday and gonna order another elite 2 just in case bc ik that's for sure reliable.
I’ve been through 3 elite 2s and just recently my elite 2 got horrible stick drift on both sticks, when I looked at my warranty sticker, I realized that was 6 days too late to cover it under warranty so that was frustrating but ultimately my fault for not checking earlier. I just ordered the instinct pro to try something new for a change because I really love the elite 2 but these problems are just too common. For anyone who’s in the same boat as me and still wants a second opinion on whether to keep the elite 2 or to try the new instinct pro, come back to this comment on the 5th or 6th of April and I’ll give you my thoughts on the controller. Just a FYI, I play warzone semi competitively. Anyways thanks for the review great as always!
Edit: sorry if you were waiting on an update from me yesterday, but I feel like I need like 3 or 2 more days and I will confidently have an answer for you guys thx!
Edit 2: So after enough playing time, I feel like I came to my final conclusion. The conclusion that I came to was that, this is definitely one of the best controllers I played with. However it doesn’t completely over shadow the elite 2. Just for some context, I never liked trigger stoppers, they always felt weird to me and these were kinda no different. They definitely feel better then just regular trigger stoppers but that’s all I can really say about that aspect of the controller I had to disable it after a few matches I just felt that it didn’t really give me an edge as I already have a decent trigger finger, if you are one of those people that like having the trigger stoppers on then these will definitely fell fantastic, I myself never gravitated to stoppers so I feel like my opinion on the hair triggers don’t matter too much. The PADDLES/BUTTONS felt pretty good. I rarely use all 4 of my paddles on the elite 2. I Manley use just two, the reason for that is I never really liked using all 4 as it felt like I didn’t have a good grip on the controller, but with the design on this controller it felt funny at first but I kinda got used to it and liked it , definitely not for everyone as I read that people don’t really like the ergonomics of the paddles. If you were just like me and only used 2 paddles then this shouldn’t be a problem, I never once hit the other button by accident and those extra buttons are there just in case you ever want to use all 4. So just to wrap things up I will say that if you really don’t have money to throwing around then I can’t comfortably recommend you this controller but if you are fortunate enough to afford one then I promise you that you’ll love the controller. I would personally give both the elite and the new scuff an 8/10. They both feel great but like I said, this scuff is not levels ahead of the elite 2 so don’t feel like you need to buy this in order to compete at the highest level. Hopefully that was easy to read/understand, if anyone still needs some advice on which to pick, fill free to comment below and I will try to answer.
JUST SENT IN THE INSTINCT PRO FOR REPAIR ON THE LEFT THUMB STICK FOR TERRIBLE STICK DRIFT... DO NOT BUY. MY VANTAGE 2 SCUFF IS TILL LASTING LONGER WITH BROKEN PADDLES....
Might add, only had it since december.
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Commenting to see your update. Could you do a apex legend test for the stick drift for your new instinct pro?
On my second elite and the RB is shit, had to switch it to one of the back paddles. About to buy my third and that’s it for me with the elite series after
Love your controller videos ❤️
Thank you!
I came into this video thinking this is gonna be a kid who has no idea 😏 boy I was wrong . Good job young man 🤘you made my decision for me and I'm not even second guessing which is something I always do . Keep up the good reviews and don't change .
I have had my instinct pro since about November of last year and it is by far one of the best pro controllers I have ever used. I personally like the side buttons because the way I hold my controller my fingers fit perfectly in between them so I can access all 4 with my middle fingers but I get why people wouldn’t like them
@@paperchaserttv8754 power A are cheaply made there so bad the sticks are loose buttons just feel cheap the best budget route is a regular Xbox one controller and adapt to playing claw
@@4Zemy I play claw still not full proof if needing to like slide and jump and reload or doing that and trying to slide jump swap guns...at a certain point you need back buttons.
@@paperchaserttv8754 I slide cancel and yy on warzone at same time tho that requires A,B and Y
@@paperchaserttv8754Ive got a power a spectra infinity and I was impressed at first but wow did I came to conclusions why this only cost 40bucks. I had severe stick drift after just one week no kidding while noticing that the right stick wasnt even centered. And your aim is also significantly worse due to the higher stick resistance including the larger deadzone which makes godlike aim impossible.
I’ve had mines since the second batch came out (they sold out on the first go around), so a few months now. No button problems, no disconnection issues, no wear and/or tear on the thumbsticks or controller. I play mainly Warzone and it’s treated me good this far.
Hopefully it continues to. Controllers are so hilariously inconsistent with reliability its mind boggling Lol
Thanks for the video good review, somehow the bell notification didn't work didn't know about the video till now, noticed you have a new video will watch it now.
ive had my custom instinct pro for 3 months now and i will say i havent had a single issue with it and it has only disconnected 1 time. no drift it feels lightning fast and responsive more so then my elite series 2. mine came with a tall boy and honestly wont use my series 2 ever again lol i guess i got lucky or the quality control of the custom products is just way better.
I switched from scuff to the Elite 2 and have no problems. all of my thumb sticks and paddles are still in one piece, and oddly enough I havent had any stick drift.
Also I have used the drift fix before, and I can confirm that it is the best thing ever. worked perfectly, and wasnt hard to install. the only difficulty I had was getting the dang controller apart.
Me too, I must have gotten a good Elite 2 because no problems and I love it!
Yeah mine is perfectly fine 3 months later. My only real complaint is the controller is a little heavy. Still love it though
you can fix strick drift on any Xbox controller much easier. Just plop the green sensor off to leave a little space between. Voila fixed.
ruclips.net/video/DIOfDVTDqRQ/видео.html short version is here.
I’ve had it for 8 months, and I was very happy with it until the last firmware update. Now it registers every input twice when on Xbox dashboard, and it registers an upward input on my right thumb stick, even on a large dead zone. Hoping the next update fixes all the bugs.
Does yours make your character turn right in a circle occasionally? That's the only thing it happened a few times
@@the87ghosts that's stick drift?
@@Kyxul I learned it was actually my mous ebeing connected via Bluetooth or whatever, I disconnected that and it worked.
HOWEVER, HORRIBLE SCUFF UPDATE.
OWNED FOR 4 MONTHS ONE PADDLE BROKE AND IT STARTED TO HAVE HORRID STICK DRIFT ON THE LEFT STICK.
GOT IT FIXED.. NOW THE WARRANTY WILL PROB RUN OUT WHEN THE PROB HAPPENS AGAIN... BE WARE.. /:
I've been using the power a fusion spectra and I love it, thank you for the recommendation
Literally love it more than an elite 2. Recommend calibrating your triggers on T1
Bought the Instinct Pro at the beginning of February. After the first day I started noticing the LT trigger stop wasn't working properly, it wasn't stopping the trigger properly and felt like it was double clicking. Next day same with the RT. So I returned it for repair and got it back quickly but after a couple of days it happened again. Sent it back for another repair and again, after a few days I had the same problem. Returned it and got a refund. The controller felt great but with the piss poor warranty I wasn't willing to take the chance of the best part of the controller failing again. £200+ was too big a gamble for what you get. Have since bought the Razer Wolverine v2 Chroma and although I've only had it a short time it is working flawlessly, which is more than I can say for the multiple Scuf, Battle Beaver and Elite Series 2 controllers I've had in the past couple of years.
For your disconnection problem (maybe): in windows USB peripherals are by default set up to be shut down after some time to save power. For decades that's the first thing I disable whenever I install Windows. You can find it in device manager. In the list of USB tree and each peripheral you'll find something like power option/ shut down this peripheral to save power... I do it for each one + mice, keyboards...
I think you're right. Also, Windows makes you look for the custom settings options, so I think a lot of people overlook it.
I thought you said you weren't getting a vitrix, but hey, I'm not complaining in the slightest. I'm getting one soon myself, so can't wait for that one. Keep it up man
1:00 Wow I didn't expect to hear a GTA music here lmfao nice
Can't wait for the Gambit review🙏
I absolutely love it! I've been searching through my background audio files from older videos on the channel. GTA soundtracks are perfect for it
Metpro !!! Metal and proto you guys effing rock !! 🇫🇷
This was the most fun video/review I’ve ever watched. Kept me hooked all the way through. Excellent work good sir 🎉
Batttlebeaver customs has been doing instant clicky triggers since gen 1 ps4.. scuf is not the only person who has them.
I was kinda excited for once about Scuf when I first saw the controller launch, I think I’ll still pick one up just because, but I’ve actually bought the Elite Series 2 multiple times now and it’s just because it’s such a great controller, granted it does have its quality control issues, but the fact that I keep buying them just goes to show how much of a well rounded controller is for all game types, but this was a great and informative video as always bro 💪🏾🔥
He dropped a video where he destroyed people like you for buying multiple elite controllers lmao
@@GoatHeadedBoy1 yeah cuz he has no idea what he’s talking about! I have purchased 3 elite controllers so far and none of them have been regretted, when I don’t have one I just can’t Xbox, lol.
If you pick it up I’m sure you will stay elite 2 gang! The elite is just a well rounded controller and feels premium compared to almost everything out there and in my opinion I don’t think it will be topped lol
@@bndtx3 not everyone has disposable money to keep replacing theirs or time, it's honestly so dumb how often they break for the price. even if yours isn't defective, I guarantee the cheap ass micro switches for the bumper will break anyway. elite series 2 isn't worth the time and I have owned 1
@@zipp9639 If your under those circumstances then why not just buy a less expensive brand and smash away. Electronics are always going to be a hit or miss no matter what brand it is. If I ever show my collection of controllers it doesn’t even look like I use them, I know what Im getting myself into before I purchase anything. Both elite and scuff are top tier in my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Love your vids and setup, I've purchased a wolverine and elite series 2 thanks to your vids, keep it up champ, now time for another irrisponsible purchase
Yo, I would love to see the new Eswap S pro in your hands when its out. Awesome content, keep it up.
I almost bought one of these. Thanks for the head's up.
Just liked the video! Best honest reviewer out here fam!
Glad I found this, I was about to buy it!
honestly i went through the elite series 2 and v2 chroma over the past several months and none have felt as great as the instinct pro.
i do not regret the cop one bit, feels so great. no problems as of yet, but let’s see a year in
Exact same journey and have just ordered the pro. Liked the v2 but the paddle placement is horrendous. 4 months later and I'm getting drift issues. One day we will get a £200 control thats lasts more than 6 months!
I’ve had mine since day one and just today I got an issue with one of the back paddles and when I hit them up for a warranty fix but I noticed it happened as soon as the warrant ended smh like 1 week after😑
How’s it working now?
@@logan-wk1bi still amazing, no stick drift or any other issues
@@Algebraiichey man, anything happened to your controller yet or is it working?
I got my scuff instinct pro a month ago and I've had no issues. That being said I only use it wirelessly for my series x. It's always wire on pc as Windows 10 is notorious for randomly "forgetting" to register the fact I have drivers installed for the Bluetooth functionality lol.
As a PC player who only uses controllers on Rocket Leauge / Party Games, this content is still very entertaining and informative :)
Loving my Xbox Elite v2 but I got lucky with a good one. I could see how it could drift on some games because the sticks have zero, I mean zero dead zone which is a good thing. If they start to drift a little you can adjust dead zone.
That’s why yous a goat at these controller reviews. No sugarcoating bullshit just straight facts.
I’ve never been able to stand scuffs paddle systems, old and new. The elite 2 paddles are by far my personal favorites.
didnt really here everything because of background noise did a little skipping BUT I LOVE YOUR ATTITUDE BRO WITH THE CURSING MAN KEEP IT UP
I have 2 of these controllers since they released. Mine have had no issues whatsoever.
Yeah, but these controllers have only been around for 4 or 5 months I believe. I'm glad they aren't dying immediately, but the real test is the 6-9 month mark, no pun intended lol. Although with the performance of stock XSX and XB1 Controllers, idk how well that'll fair
I bought one a month ago and I don't have any issues.
Just picked this bad boy up last night and I have to get used to it since I am a 100% elite 2 user lol but gotta admit the build is quite nice and the new paddle design (back buttons) are pretty nice and easy to use i can actually use all four without even trying lol the elite 2 I can only use 2 comfortably for now I would highly recommend if you are in the market for a new pro controller that fits the series Xbox setup since I really enjoy the style of the new series controllers
I had just ordered mine today. i was originally trying to get my Prestige serviced, but apparently they retired the line and gave me 50% off a new controller.
@@REXae86 that’s what’s up! Idk about the haters but this is my first scuff and it’s so beautiful I don’t even wanna use it haha so far I love it and the triggers are insane hope you have a good time with yours ! Happy gaming my friend!
@@REXae86 just ordered mine today! It'll take a month... 😭 How is yours treating you?
@@Love_N_Let_Live its perfect! everything is working properly. unlike the og Prestige that used a idiotic magnetic that would reset the paddles, this one is an electronic. hope yours is a good one as well.
@@REXae86 👌 Hell yeah, me too. Glad it's treating you well!
his vids have gotten way better
beyond happy that i have never made to poor choice of purchasing this
For the disconnecting problem, take the batteries out when its wired.
Best controller videos on RUclips hands down!!
Thanks, no Scuff for me.
Great afro man ! Really like your style !
Greetings from a 53 year old gaming fart from the Netherlands, subbed.
nice video man keep up the good work.
I missed you my guy thanks for the dope video
I've missed yall too. Sorry I haven't been around as often. Every time I try to get back into the swing of things I'm taken out of it again. Hopefully things are different this time
What is that kontrol freek you have on the right stick called? I just got the galaxy’s but they didn’t fit on the right stick
How did you attach the kontrolfreek on the joystick ?? Answer will be appreciated 🙂
Good call my brother got me the Instinct pro from Amazon for Christmas 5 months later I have really terrible stick drift.
The Razer Wolverine Ultimate V1 edition is about 65$-80$ on Amazon that controller obliterates this one. But you know I got it cause of you and if it breaks I’m just buying another ultimate for cheap now
Hope you feel better!
Much better! Thank you
Finally a video in my feed not about the oscars or some problem in the world. last three days even gamers I watch have done nothing but be silent. This is a refresh
No Dpad discussion? The absolute most important point for competitive fighting game players who may be seeking reviews... (Street Fighter 6 has just come out and MK1 is coming out soon) It might be smart to consider testing and reviewing this aspect.
I always will if it's noteworthy, but in this case it's simply a stock XSX D-Pad. I've heard many who play fighting games enjoy the XSX D-Pad very much, but I didn't think it was something to focus on in this review.
There are many pro controllers much cheaper that would likely be better for fighting games in terms of value-per-dollar like the GameSir G7. Which has an absolute AMAZING clicky D-Pad and ABXY buttons for only $45. But its wired, and doesn't come with physical trigger stops, only software related trigger adjustments
@@vCuda Thanks. This is a good controller I heard a lot of good things about it. I am really enjoying the Xbox Series X dpad, comparing it to DS4, DS5, Vitrix Pro, and Xbox Elite, for fighting games. It has the best balance of comfort and precision, most importantly precision and capability of easy 360 inputs.
I just bought a scuff instinct pro and love it. But it did take a couple days to get used to using it.
i feel like the problem with some of these review videos, is that they dont consider every type of consumer who would be interested in this item, it seems like you like to play with this controller wired. why? me personally i cannot go back to wired i just hate it. for me the reason i am most interested in this controller, is NOT simply because it has clicky switch triggers. its because it has a faceplate that removes with replacable sticks and easier access to repaire the sticks if further damage occurs, and because it takes double A batteries. this is a big deal because you can literaly get rechargable batteries for it and never worry about it. so the option is nice. to me, it is rdiculous that the elite 2 controller doesnt have that option. so, yes, nice triggers, nice access to sticks, custom faceplates, great rubber grip, same quality of series s controllers, still updatable through xbox controller app on windows, and has replaceable D-pad as well. basically, for me i was searching for an xbox series s controller with better features and more user friendly repair options and battery pack custom possibility. and thats exactly what the instinct pro is. AND you can buy a motion control add on that outputs through steam as ps4 controller, which means, basically you get all those amazing options, and you can use motion controls for shooters. its the most custom controller for me, and i love that. even the elite 2 pales in comparison. yes custom stick tension would be cool, but....i mean. im a big fan of motion controls so, its kind of useless to me anyway.
So basically
You feel like the problem with these review videos is that they don't discuss the things you want them to discuss? lol
I use it wired because the response times are more consistent and I don't have to have batteries in. I'm on PC as well, so its way easier to use wired. Its weird that you say you're interested in the instinct pro for the removable faceplate and thumbsticks, when I've literally reviewed $80 controllers that do the same thing. What I mean is, this is an unbelievably common feature that can be found on multiple controllers under $200. This is why I said the only interesting feature on the controller is the clicky triggers. Which is objectively true, all the features here aside from those can be found on other, cheaper custom controllers with longer warranties so their existence invalidates the Instinct Pros in most scenarios
I understand that you enjoy the instinct pro, but take a second to think about the amount of money you paid for it. Look at a controller like the Victrix Gambit, its a wired controller thats $100, claims to be the fastest Xbox controller, and has damn near as many features as the Series 2. Price to Performance matters man!
Love the vids bro
Razor controllers also have adjustable triggers very underrated imo razer controllers are great
So happy I went with Evil instead of Scuf.
Aye u funny af. Got the wii sports resort music playing 🤣🤣
vader 3 pro is pretty damn good and half the price IMO. I've heard out of box issues, but mine is perfect. From MY experience. I recommend. Gamer Heaven seemed to have a good opinion about it as well.
Hey bro i love your channel man! I was wondering will you ever do a stick drift video fix with the helders fix on the scuf instinct pro cause i have to fix mine but I don’t know how
I modded a PS5 controller a while back and I'm getting addicted to the higher stick tension on it. My Razer controllers are feeling pretty imprecise in comparison. Might try out that gambit controller since it's not too expensive and I have a problem.
I have a Gambit and i love it. I only use the two paddle because the four is too close for me but everything else is solid. I also like the Dolby Atmos and two year warranty included
No, Severe stick drift after 6 month and 20 days...out of warranty, Scuf said it would have to be rebuilt and at least $100 to fix. Sorry, going back to Elite 2 with the $60 extra warranty.
Thats what happens when you buy from scuf,its made to break and its overpriced for no reason...i don't feel bad for you tho, research before making that Kind of investment...
@@tempestzz5682 The research for this controller was virtually non-existent since it was a newly released design. I was not asking for your sympathy rather trying to share an early review and confirmation that despite a really good button layout and mouse-click bumpers the joysticks are still as cheap as any other controller out there and their warranty is horrible which I knew when I purchased it. Not sure why you had to be toxic but I wish you well in your happy life, cheers!
You should start making value per dollar chart will very Much be helpful great review cuda👍
I’ve had mine for about 6 months and it has sick drift on the left anolog
Strangely the only issue i have had with my instinct pro was the right bumper stopped working. Sent it in and got it back fast. But that was a month before the short warranty ran out. Probably won’t buy another for the price. Not when i have a working Elite 2 i don’t use and it still has 1.5 year of warranty left
The music at the end was too fire
Hit the nail on the head
I “upgraded” my elite series 2 with the scuf sticks and back buttons. I agree that the joysticks are starting to crumble. But the buttons are way nicer than the Microsoft ones like way fucking better
The instant click triggers aren't as good for FPS games IMO. They require more force and I've noticed that clicking will slightly move my thumb every once in a while. I think using the trigger stops on the elite has more of an advantage
Nice review
@vCuda I bought a razer wolverine tournament edition based off of the review you did and have loved it. Unfortunately, after being my daily driver for almost two years its starting to develop stick drift and response issues. It seems that razer has discontinued making the four button model. Any word on if they would bring it back? Keep up the good work my friend!
You can find them on Amazon but they are going for like 180 new. I went with an ultimate for 99.
ordered the back button attachment for PS4 controller
Think you could review a gamenetics controller? I’m thinking of buying one but unsure. You can do a lot with the controller clicky buttons and etc
I love this guy 🤣
After 4 months using the new scuf elite my bottom right button snapped off. Really thought this integrated button design would fix paddles/buttons from breaking.. I guess things never change
Seriously? That's absolutely insane, that's the last issue I thought I'd hear with this controller lol
@@vCuda seriously bro. I use that bottom right button as my A button (jump button) so I use it more than all the other buttons. But geez after 4 months using it it snapped clean. It’s being held by tape and it works just fine. Didn’t expect this button design to fail :(
I’ve mentioned before that mine arrived with excessively large dead zone. Scuf basically told me to go F my self. So I have an Instinct Pro with about 30 min of total play time on it. If anyone feels they might not be as picky about their sticks I’ll gladly sell it to you lol. I honestly really like the Victrix Gambit that you showed in the video. I hate that I love the Elite V2, but hey, that’s what Best Buy warranties are for. The Gambit and Wolverine TE are my other top 2 contenders. Whyyyyy did they stop making the TE?! Anyone know?
The controller is the Star Storm design if anyone was curious
The TE is an Xbox one Controller and they wanted to push their new XSX Controllers, so they stopped selling the old ones even though they Still work on the new consoles. It's super unfortunate
And I'm sure someone here will take that scuf off your hands, there's a lot more DIY people on the channel nowadays so hopefully someone can fix it up
@Ethan Trogdon how much would you want for the scuf?
Vcuda what inbuilt deadzone setting do you use on you wokverine v2 xhroma/ ultimate
The slider in the razer setup app 1-4
I use 1 currently
@@vCuda cool yeah I was Lucky to not get any stick drift on my v2 chroma well 0.005 drift but thats perfect sticks in my book
@@Septentrional33 hey bro, I just got my v2 chroma, and put it on 1 in the app, but the sticks on screen shake a tiny bit. Is this normal or does this mean I have stick drift?
@@mjsmjs2765 yes it should shake a bit if you se the numbers on the x and y axis fluctulating to 0- x a number it could be small drift but remeber no stick recenters perfectly so just give the stick a tap and see if it lands on x 0 y 0 then you know its just the recentering of the stick
Fyi im using setting 1 answell the left stick is abit more on drift but The right one basically have 0-2% drift wich is perfect this shows in the app where it goes x axis 0 then 2 y axis 0 then 1 and so on
Doesnt usually at this 3 month mark the old gen scuf is when the joysticks wear off? Its crazy how the rubber of the new gen scuf controller joysticks is now similar to the joystick of normal controllers, big improvement
Yeah it usually took less than half a year for old sticks to fall apart. Crazy!
Scuf's "Unlimited" customization has only a bit more customization than an iPhone
Much respect
fusion pro all the way!! only 80$ and lasted me a year.i previously got the elite series and had an unresponsive A button out the box o_O
Video on Victrix Gambit soon? Or what’s your quick opinion on it
can't give it out here, it'll ruin the review lol
Had 2 series 2 controllers first stopped connecting to my PC after 4 months the second had real bad stick drift after a few months they are nice but poorly designed just ordered my first scuf hopefully they are different
Thanks my dude, you just saved me 230 bucks
Don’t suppose you could review the Scuff Relfex, would be interested to see your opinion on that as well.
I might, but Jesus christ is it expensive. Imo, purely from a specs perspective, there's literally no way it'll be worth it
Do a review please of the gambit controller 👌👌
I feel like for the money the Razer wolverine TE is a better buy. The trigger stops aren’t clicky obviously but they’re still good. And it’s been out for a looong time now
OK I just got this for my birthday so I'm hoping they have fixed some of the issues or all of them. But all the ones u have showed on the screen other than that I had got stick drift on all of them. So I went for a more expensive option.
Don’t buy this controller the fact you’re spending £200+ on a controller that still has the same analogue sticks as a £40 standard controller is ridiculous I got stock drift in 5 months. Fuck this controller
Great video. Black Marty Mcfly!
Great vid dude. Have you thought of checking out Hypr controllers? Those seem pretty good
5:25 Razer Wolverine v2 Chroma has just joined the chat… 🤨🤔🤭
Can you do a review on the Victrix Gambit Tournament controller
I was under the impression that kontrol freaks didn't fit the thumbsticks
So say we wanna buy a controller with those beautiful trigger stops on the instinct what you recommending?
great video cuda, i got my scuf instinct pro same time as you everything still works great on mine just like day 1 the only weird problem i have with mine and even with any new first party series x/s controller is when im hardwired to my pc playing a game after about an hour the controller turns off then on and proceeds to connect and turn on my series x in the other room lol i work around this by taking out my rechargeable battery out my controller then everything is good for the most part lol but ya its a weird issue i think could be taken care of with a future firmware update for these xbox controllers, anyways as always great video vcuda 👍🏽
probably pressing too hard
We're in a weird place where Razer actually has some of the best value.
Everything about controllers for the past... like 13.4 billion years has been weird 😂 its ESPECIALLY weird when Razer isn't fucking things up
The only thing is the that they need the software unlike these others
@@itsprod.472 I just want the Focus and Agile software to work the way it should and actually be thumbstick sensitivity overwriters. Razer would truly have the ultimate pro controllers if they reworked this feature
not sure if you made a vid on it but do you recommend the eswap s?
My Power A spectra infinity feel so much better than the original Xbox controller which is what keeps me from getting the scuff 🧐 all I need is the digital triggers. Power A falls all the time and still ticking 😁
Do you still use it? If so, How to the mouse click triggers feel now? I just ordered mine, switching from a thrustmaster eswap X, hopefully I’m not disappointed 😂
Have you reviewed evilcontrollers ??? They have the best ergonomically designed paddles with full hand coverage on all 4 paddles for fps shooter games