@SamsBikes I really want the new Mondraker Dune XR but the Bosch sx motor rattle/clunk is really detouring me. I think I’m going with the updated Kenevo SL2 since I had the Gen1 KSL and loved it.
If I was to buy a new E bike today, I would seriously consider Orbea Rise LT with a 630 W battery. I have a Orbea Rise M10 custom and love it but really like the idea of the longer travel and the 85 nm motor! The best of all worlds! Especially the claimed weight!🤙
You missed one that's important the five levels of assist and three sublevels. Giant full carbon Trance X Advanced E+ EL series this year. Sheds a freaking 10 lb 85 nm. 150/140 travel magnesium motor casing. Super quiet yama motor. Flip chip to make it more or less trail. Pretty much blows the doors off of everything in this list price versus performance.
I bought the Giant Trance X E+ Advanced Elite last year to get the superlight frame with the full fat motor. If I were to buy again today I'd definitely be looking at the new Orbea Rise but it's hard to beat the value that Giant offer.
Yeah I just got the 2024 reign e +1 in Australia brand new for $7,500 au , it wasn’t necessarily my first choice but the value for money was too good to knock back , and it rides bloody well anyway
I'd have to go with the Specialized Levo SL Alloy. I already own a Gen 1 and it just suits the way I ride. I upgraded mine with a Fox Factory 36 Fork and Fox Factory Float X Shock. It made a world of difference.
Loving the customization options for the Orbea, but so far, only 3 color options here in California. Anyone know if we can order our own spec from the website? I've built a few different bikes on the site, but when I try to choose a dealer, none come up. Maybe I'm just old and non-techy.
Hello, I would be interested in trying the Mondraker Dune 😋. All I need is money🤣🤣🤣 Thank you for the videos, excellent work you do on this channel, especially for those who are thinking about buying an e-bike, congratulations 🤟
My favorite ebike, or the one i would buy, doesnt exist yet. I would want: -bosch or brose motor -720 + **Easily REMOVABLE** battery -Sub 22kg -mullet -short chainstay (sub 450) -head set angle sub 64.5° -sram t-type transmission -top tube integrated system controller -hayes dominion brakes ideally... -sizing that suit my physionomy !!! -range extender -ajustable dropper -160mm or less cranks -available in Canada -no more than 12000$ (canadian) -available at a local dealer Good luck Chuck !!!😂 I will keep my Giant Trance another year for sure.
@@SamsBikes I don’t think it’s revolutionary or anything, I just like that they are selling an alloy super light ebike with a decent spec for under $10k Canadian, with an nx yari build build for under $7k.
I’d be interested to know how different the 55nm Bosch SX motor feels compared to the similar 50nm TQ HPR50 in both sound and power in real rider terms, for instance will the SX be significantly more powerful up hill with its 600w compared to the TQ 300w, at the expense of a loud whine or have Bosch nailed the motor sound now too? I ask as i have a Trek Fuel Exe currently and there’s a lot of similar weight bikes out now with an SX motor.
Where are Emtbs fun? You must have to have super steep hills. They seem SUPER slow to me. The trails i ride i might push less on the Ebike but the downhills are much faster on the analog. The dowhill is kinda the point isn't it? I just don't get it.
A lot of these bikes look sick. The Rise gen2 in particular. That said, I can't see myself ever buying a new bike without a gearbox and belt. I think they're the future of ebikes, be it Pinion or some new competitor.
And everytime I saw the rep talk to someone they mentioned the range extender, but it sounded like they said it was standard equipment. They also said the price, I think I was on 99 spokes video (maybe) that it was possibly going to be in the $6k range. Which is bananas considering the displayed bike had a t-type drivetrain… I think I’ll hold out and see what it looks like in production. Considering the top spec alloy sisku ebike is only held back by the suspension components imo, (They have a tendency to stiffen up in Canadian winters) I’m very interested in the brand.
I would buy Canyon Neuron On Fly tomorrow if there is 150 fork. now I'm hesitating... but what else??? is there Bosh SX with 140 rear 150 front under 6k???
If I were to buy a new one tomorrow I’d definitely pick the Rocky Mountain altitude powerplay. 108 NM of torque and 720wh battery. My 2019 Rocky Mountain instinct is still going strong. I’m still on my original motor also. I ride it 2-4 days a week
My 2024 Orbea Rise M-20 is too new to replace. I would get the 2025 in the LT spec. My Rise is 160F/140R by adding a 160 Fox airshaft to the Fox 36 Factory. I know that a coil shock with a longer stroke and an offset bushing could be fitted to get 150mm on the rear Maybe the shock linkage/yoke and firmware will be a retrofit someday?
If I had the money I'd probably go for Simplon Rapcon PMAX Pinion. Would like to sample that MGU and way over 1000 Wh of battery, with a range extender.
Hello Sam , thanks for all the great Ebike content. I would like to buy the new Specialized Kenvo SL with the new motor. I am hoping for a Alloy version 🤤.
My mates and I are looking at the Nicolai Saturn 16 MGU! But for me alone I am thinking which one to get as I like XR Mondraker as well.Hopefully that’s gonna be my next bike 🤘🏽
I'm considering a SL eMTB just for the trails around the hood (Manly Dam) - consider a Scott Lumen but worry about the power to weight ratio for the TQ, the new Canyon Neuron:ONfly and now the new Orbea Rise - aaaaahhhhh too many choices!
Spending my own money it would be the Polygon TLE or the Propain Shresh. I’m positive Polygon will knock the value out of the park and Propain’s packaging, customization, price, and design are really appealing. Another contender would be the Ari Nebo Peak. If any of those 3 go on sale this holiday season I will be picking one up. I’m not interested in $6k+ bikes with technology that is rapidly advancing that weigh over 41lbs. Gear boxes are the clear future once they reduce drag, weight, and cost. If I had to guess maybe another 5 years.
I do like the Specialized Levo gen 3 but customer service in my country for this brand is very bad , so i`m considering Whyte 160-S with BOSCH smart system. Would love a pair of shoes :)
My partner has just told me that she "accidentally" booked a 3 day retreat for herself on my 50th birthday. Wtf! A woman that never forgets dates! So Sam for me it's the merida 160 10k. Phoning up now to put a deposit on it. Solo ride in the UK lake district for me on my 50th. 🤙
AWESOME VIDEO SAM... i ride a propain ekano 2 al ...but if i was to buy an ebike tomorrow i would buy a Unno burn... or a Orbea rise LT version ... those are the best looking ebikes on the market right now in my opinion
I would love the new gen 2 Orbea but to much. I also like the new Polygon but I think I would get the REI Nebo, this bike has the best price and REI has great customer service. Thanks for all the great videos and all the info.
If that Polygon comes in with a price similar to the outstanding Colossus N8E they will have a runaway hit! Even Canyon will have a hard time justifying their pricing when compared to the Polygon. What an absolute ripper deal!
That Orbea rise looks good, pricey though. Waiting on Specialized to pull it out the bag and give us an SL with a good motor and battery. Brilliant warranty and customer service. But thought with the 1.2 they would have increased the battery size.
I have a Santa Cruz Heckler mx w/740 wh battery and love it, so I think I'd either replace it or pick up the SL for shorter rides. Orbea's are sweet though🤔
Hello crack. My favorite ebike would be the Orbea rise Lt, I think that now they have done things well by being able to have 85 newtons. A greeting from Spain
Right now, I have the ‘23 turbo levo comp alloy with the mastermind. If I could pick tomorrow, I would stick with the levo and get the highest spec carbon model with all the bells and whistles I just love the bike and it does all I could ask of it👍😁
My only 2 bikes are a city bike and a BMX, would like to go a bit wild and splash out for a canyon strive on, just waiting to finish school so I have more time and three canyon's shock and dropper post be updated with the new fox goodies. Plus I think Bosch is working on updating the more powerful lineup side they have used better battery tech on the lower powered e bikes.... Would be nice though if the fox dropper could be controlled by the downtube wirelessly...
Hi Sam, for sure I would definitely choose the new alloy Levo LTD edition 🤤 and a nice pair of red Crankbrothers shoes to shine on the nice trails of Sintra in Portugal 😉🍻🍻
I would buy the canyon neuron on fly but I’m still looking at Sam’s website to narrow things down a bit more ,having taken a break from mtn biking for 15years …great show very informative
That Mondraker Dune is #1 on my list. I already have a full fat enduro ebike, a lighter ebike would be next. I like the way it looks, just would hope it would ride nice. I hope you get to test it so I can find out 😎
Whats going on Legend riders... tell me what is your favourite Ebike right now.
For me the bike that are more beautiful are the new orbea or the specialized levo sl
@SamsBikes I really want the new Mondraker Dune XR but the Bosch sx motor rattle/clunk is really detouring me. I think I’m going with the updated Kenevo SL2 since I had the Gen1 KSL and loved it.
Nicolai, and the latest with Pinion E1.12 Motor.Gearbox.Unit, gates carbon drive !
@@RubenJFernandesOrbea Rise = £11’999 😢!!
Orbea Wild and Rise.
If I was to buy a new E bike today, I would seriously consider Orbea Rise LT with a 630 W battery. I have a Orbea Rise M10 custom and love it but really like the idea of the longer travel and the 85 nm motor! The best of all worlds! Especially the claimed weight!🤙
Then the weight is not far from the Wild, though... it becomes a tough choice.
Just buy the cheapest emtb possible with oké components.
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You missed one that's important the five levels of assist and three sublevels. Giant full carbon Trance X Advanced E+ EL series this year. Sheds a freaking 10 lb 85 nm. 150/140 travel magnesium motor casing. Super quiet yama motor. Flip chip to make it more or less trail. Pretty much blows the doors off of everything in this list price versus performance.
For me it would be the Propain . The right amount of travel, motor and battery.
Yep the new Propain looks such good value
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I bought the Giant Trance X E+ Advanced Elite last year to get the superlight frame with the full fat motor. If I were to buy again today I'd definitely be looking at the new Orbea Rise but it's hard to beat the value that Giant offer.
Totally agree Giant has amazing value
Yeah I just got the 2024 reign e +1 in Australia brand new for $7,500 au , it wasn’t necessarily my first choice but the value for money was too good to knock back , and it rides bloody well anyway
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I'd have to go with the Specialized Levo SL Alloy. I already own a Gen 1 and it just suits the way I ride. I upgraded mine with a Fox Factory 36 Fork and Fox Factory Float X Shock. It made a world of difference.
Thanks for entering yep it’s a beast of a ebike
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I would buy a Specialized S- Works. Maybe the Kenevo SL 3?
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Would love a chance to ride the Orbea rise gen2 .
I would be dreaming to say Mondraker dune .
Good call both look amazing
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I would get a propain if I didn’t work at a bike shop so instead I’m getting the giant trance e+ advanced
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I would buy the Giant Trance , affordable and good specs
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Loving the customization options for the Orbea, but so far, only 3 color options here in California. Anyone know if we can order our own spec from the website? I've built a few different bikes on the site, but when I try to choose a dealer, none come up. Maybe I'm just old and non-techy.
Not sure 🤔 if you can do that in American I’ll try and find out for you
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Hello, I would be interested in trying the Mondraker Dune 😋. All I need is money🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for the videos, excellent work you do on this channel, especially for those who are thinking about buying an e-bike, congratulations 🤟
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Hi Sam.I am seriously considering a KTM Prowler.
It’s a good bike I think there are better options these days but thanks for entering
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The one I would grab has to be the Dune it's going to chew up any trail in the World....
Yep it looks so good
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Canyon StriveON is my choice coming
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For me, the Orbea SL, 420Wh battery as a old trail rider, this is for me!!
Yep it’s looking pretty rad
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My favorite ebike, or the one i would buy, doesnt exist yet.
I would want:
-bosch or brose motor
-720 + **Easily REMOVABLE** battery
-Sub 22kg
-mullet
-short chainstay (sub 450)
-head set angle sub 64.5°
-sram t-type transmission
-top tube integrated system controller
-hayes dominion brakes ideally...
-sizing that suit my physionomy !!!
-range extender
-ajustable dropper
-160mm or less cranks
-available in Canada
-no more than 12000$ (canadian)
-available at a local dealer
Good luck Chuck !!!😂
I will keep my Giant Trance another year for sure.
Haha make it and send me one haha
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I’m not sure about availability outside of North America, but I’m excited about the Devinci e-Troy lite that was just released.
Oh yes I missed that one
@@SamsBikes I don’t think it’s revolutionary or anything, I just like that they are selling an alloy super light ebike with a decent spec for under $10k Canadian, with an nx yari build build for under $7k.
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I like the new Orbea Rise LT but I think I would still prefere the Wild.
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Although not mentioned, I would buy a new Trek Rail 9.8XT to offer a full fat alternative to my Trek Fuel EXe 9.8XT.
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I’d be interested to know how different the 55nm Bosch SX motor feels compared to the similar 50nm TQ HPR50 in both sound and power in real rider terms, for instance will the SX be significantly more powerful up hill with its 600w compared to the TQ 300w, at the expense of a loud whine or have Bosch nailed the motor sound now too? I ask as i have a Trek Fuel Exe currently and there’s a lot of similar weight bikes out now with an SX motor.
That spesial bike with øhlins shocks. Ore mayby a moondraker
Where are Emtbs fun? You must have to have super steep hills. They seem SUPER slow to me. The trails i ride i might push less on the Ebike but the downhills are much faster on the analog. The dowhill is kinda the point isn't it? I just don't get it.
The new Merida e160 lyte is the bike for me. Having tested one recently I can honestly say for the price, spec and performance it's unbeatable.
The new Orbea Rise
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I like the look of the Transition Repeater 160/160 EP8
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CUBE are very good Bikes!
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What about the Devinci mate? Looks sweet as!
Yep I totally forgot about that one
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The new orbea would be my first choice.
Good call it looks very good
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Has to be the mondraker dune light with big travel ,dream machine..
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The orbea wild, full send fat beauty.
Yep it’s a beast
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A lot of these bikes look sick. The Rise gen2 in particular. That said, I can't see myself ever buying a new bike without a gearbox and belt. I think they're the future of ebikes, be it Pinion or some new competitor.
I don’t believe the MGU is there yet I testing one 1 year ago
well....first Orbea Rise had from the get go outdated (mamil?) geometry.... :/
and battery still not easily replaceable :/
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I would get The Pole before its too late 😉
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My first choice mondraker level xr!
I would get canyon strive on
Yep I have one it’s a sweet rig
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I really like the Transition Repeater PT.
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I would go for a Cannondale Moterra!
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It would be the Orbea rise lt for me
Yep they have done a great job
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Wish the Levo SL had a bigger battery like 430 or so they missed the mark on that.
The Mondraker Dune looks interesting!
Yep the dune looks cool 😎 I run my Levo most of the time with the range extender
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Levo alloy ohlins ltd for sure!
That specialised Levo alloy limited edition looks like a great bike , that would be my choice without having ridden it .
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Rise LT for the win…
Haha yep they have done a great job
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I would buy the Crestline RS 180 SPECIAL TEAM EDITION 👍🏻
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I would buy Nicolai Saturn and pinion...really something new ;) Greetings from Slovenia
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Looking forward to the Polygon TLe - R Carbon
And everytime I saw the rep talk to someone they mentioned the range extender, but it sounded like they said it was standard equipment. They also said the price, I think I was on 99 spokes video (maybe) that it was possibly going to be in the $6k range. Which is bananas considering the displayed bike had a t-type drivetrain… I think I’ll hold out and see what it looks like in production. Considering the top spec alloy sisku ebike is only held back by the suspension components imo, (They have a tendency to stiffen up in Canadian winters) I’m very interested in the brand.
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I would buy Canyon Neuron On Fly tomorrow if there is 150 fork. now I'm hesitating... but what else??? is there Bosh SX with 140 rear 150 front under 6k???
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Nicolai are racing us into the future with the pinion motor gearbox. This IS the WAY forward.
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I would buy Levo SL with a great discount from a Specialized thank You Sam
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Specialized Kanevo sl2 great content as always keep them coming
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any good bikes for $5k aud?
Awesome new bikes!
If I were to buy a new one tomorrow I’d definitely pick the Rocky Mountain altitude powerplay. 108 NM of torque and 720wh battery. My 2019 Rocky Mountain instinct is still going strong. I’m still on my original motor also. I ride it 2-4 days a week
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My 2024 Orbea Rise M-20 is too new to replace. I would get the 2025 in the LT spec.
My Rise is 160F/140R by adding a 160 Fox airshaft to the Fox 36 Factory. I know that a coil shock with a longer stroke and an offset bushing could be fitted to get 150mm on the rear
Maybe the shock linkage/yoke and firmware will be a retrofit someday?
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The Orbea Rise LT in it's lightest configuration would be my choice
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If I had the money I'd probably go for Simplon Rapcon PMAX Pinion. Would like to sample that MGU and way over 1000 Wh of battery, with a range extender.
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@Sam's Bikes - it's the Orbea Rise 2025. Orbea Rise 2024 also exists and it's basically the same as 2023 version ;)
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Specialized Turbo levo but really liking the look of the new Orbea Rise LT with a 630 wh battery
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Hello Sam , thanks for all the great Ebike content. I would like to buy the new Specialized Kenvo SL with the new motor. I am hoping for a Alloy version 🤤.
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My mates and I are looking at the Nicolai Saturn 16 MGU! But for me alone I am thinking which one to get as I like XR Mondraker as well.Hopefully that’s gonna be my next bike 🤘🏽
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My favourite e-bike is my Levo Carbon😄 After ditching the Sram brakes, it’s perfect👌 Only thinking to add 10mm of travel🤔
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I would buy Propain Sresh, seems like great value for money. Although I wish I could afford orbea rise… :)
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I'm considering a SL eMTB just for the trails around the hood (Manly Dam) - consider a Scott Lumen but worry about the power to weight ratio for the TQ, the new Canyon Neuron:ONfly and now the new Orbea Rise - aaaaahhhhh too many choices!
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Spending my own money it would be the Polygon TLE or the Propain Shresh. I’m positive Polygon will knock the value out of the park and Propain’s packaging, customization, price, and design are really appealing. Another contender would be the Ari Nebo Peak. If any of those 3 go on sale this holiday season I will be picking one up. I’m not interested in $6k+ bikes with technology that is rapidly advancing that weigh over 41lbs. Gear boxes are the clear future once they reduce drag, weight, and cost. If I had to guess maybe another 5 years.
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I do like the Specialized Levo gen 3 but customer service in my country for this brand is very bad , so i`m considering Whyte 160-S with BOSCH smart system. Would love a pair of shoes
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I am currently shopping e-bikes, so my answer changes just about every 16 minutes, but today I think I'm settled on the Orbea Wild.
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Orbea Rise SL with the 630wh battery =D
Cheers from Brazil! ^^
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Just put a deposit on the 2024 Norco Range. Big travel with the Bosch motor sold me. Although your video may sway me a bit! 😂
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My partner has just told me that she "accidentally" booked a 3 day retreat for herself on my 50th birthday. Wtf! A woman that never forgets dates! So Sam for me it's the merida 160 10k. Phoning up now to put a deposit on it. Solo ride in the UK lake district for me on my 50th. 🤙
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Hi, Sam, i prefer/choose/buy Cube AMS Hybrid One44 TM . It is lighter, better specs/price and has a good geometry.
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AWESOME VIDEO SAM... i ride a propain ekano 2 al ...but if i was to buy an ebike tomorrow i would buy a Unno burn... or a Orbea rise LT version ... those are the best looking ebikes on the market right now in my opinion
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Integrated ep12 or similar integrated gears with 180+ suspension. It's coming and it will be the Tesla of bikes.
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I would love the new gen 2 Orbea but to much. I also like the new Polygon but I think I would get the REI Nebo, this bike has the best price and REI has great customer service. Thanks for all the great videos and all the info.
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The Speccy Turbo Levo Comp Alloy. Oh, hang on... I already bought it.
Hahaha 🤣 yep it’s a beast of an ebike
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I’ve been waiting for the right bike to incorporate the MGU. I thing I’d have to buy the Nikolai if I were buying tomorrow 👌😁👍
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If that Polygon comes in with a price similar to the outstanding Colossus N8E they will have a runaway hit! Even Canyon will have a hard time justifying their pricing when compared to the Polygon. What an absolute ripper deal!
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That Orbea rise looks good, pricey though. Waiting on Specialized to pull it out the bag and give us an SL with a good motor and battery. Brilliant warranty and customer service. But thought with the 1.2 they would have increased the battery size.
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I would buy the new Merida 160, although I just bought a Turbo Levo Alloy last week.
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I have a Santa Cruz Heckler mx w/740 wh battery and love it, so I think I'd either replace it or pick up the SL for shorter rides. Orbea's are sweet though🤔
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Loved the video, I'de buy the new Orbea Rise, love it
keep the great job!!!
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I'll take an Orbea Rise, but which one? LT or SL? Both impressive👍
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Hello crack.
My favorite ebike would be the Orbea rise Lt, I think that now they have done things well by being able to have 85 newtons.
A greeting from Spain
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Would love to rip the Nicolai Saturn 16 MGU that Pinion looks sweet!
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I would like the new Specialized Turbo Levo LTD 😍
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Right now, I have the ‘23 turbo levo comp alloy with the mastermind. If I could pick tomorrow, I would stick with the levo and get the highest spec carbon model with all the bells and whistles I just love the bike and it does all I could ask of it👍😁
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Fav bike right now would be my Gen 3 Levo I'm loving it right now and I'm thinking of trying out the new Cane Creek Trigon Shock at some point.
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My only 2 bikes are a city bike and a BMX, would like to go a bit wild and splash out for a canyon strive on, just waiting to finish school so I have more time and three canyon's shock and dropper post be updated with the new fox goodies. Plus I think Bosch is working on updating the more powerful lineup side they have used better battery tech on the lower powered e bikes.... Would be nice though if the fox dropper could be controlled by the downtube wirelessly...
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Santa Cruz Heckler 🚵🏽♀️🍔🍻
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Still loving my Pivot Shuttle SL. So, I would go for the Saturn 16, for something different. Anyone know if it can be sent to the US?
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Hi Sam, for sure I would definitely choose the new alloy Levo LTD edition 🤤 and a nice pair of red Crankbrothers shoes to shine on the nice trails of Sintra in Portugal 😉🍻🍻
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I would buy the canyon neuron on fly but I’m still looking at Sam’s website to narrow things down a bit more ,having taken a break from mtn biking for 15years …great show very informative
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Hi !
Because of the budget and because I'm not an experimented user, I think the Mondraker Chaser could be a good choice.
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My next e-bike would be the Orbea Rise or maybe the Pivot Shuttle SL. Can't go wrong with either. I also like the Levo SL
Yep can’t go wrong with any of those bikes
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That Mondraker Dune is #1 on my list. I already have a full fat enduro ebike, a lighter ebike would be next. I like the way it looks, just would hope it would ride nice. I hope you get to test it so I can find out 😎
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For me it’s the specialized levo LTD fantastic !
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Dream bike is specialized levo s-works or whyte 180rs
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I'm currently on a Levo but if I bought today the Orbea Wild would be my pick.
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Anything with a pinion gearbox, because it’s the future.
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Nikoli+Pinion is the only bike that interests me, But not at $16,000+AUD 😂
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I’m interested to try the new Orbea rise LT. Hope I win. 😊
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