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0:00 Which American Express Card Should You Get?
1:30 Amex Family Rules
5:49 Amex Cards to Skip
7:52 Amex Cards I've Avoided
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If you have a family BCP is a huge cash back card. We spend at least 600-800 per month on groceries alone that’s $35-60 per month and that mega adds up.
The AAA daily advantage is a better card when you take annual fee into account (plus the annual grocery limit is 10k for the AAA but only 6K for the BCP)
The grocery cat has a 6k limit per year on grocery spend i believe
@@johnt6806their AAA travel card is just as good for gas 👍🏽
I got them both while they last. Usually OP cards like this become discontinued
I still opt for the Amex gold for groceries. It’s 4x but the points can be worth more than cash back if u use for travel
I have both the BCP and the Morgan Stanley BCP to cover groceries (due to the $6k limit). Gas and streaming (which includes Google FI) go on the MS BCP so that I can get the additional $100 cash back with $15k spend. I try and hit (15K extactly so that I can optizmize to other cards). I can usally get close to 4% cash back after subtracting the annual fee.
Good info......you are always in the mix🤩with the knowledge
Man youve been putting out non stop 🔥 videos this past week on this channel and your business channel! Thank you, as always
BCP giving 6% back on groceries and streaming is huge, and the 3% gas when I'm not getting more elsewhere. Plus the Hulu/Disney credit every month pays for the fee. I have a family of 4, so if your single, yeah groceries may not be as big a deal thus nerfing the card. Only Amex card I have, supplements my Chase setup perfectly.
Same I'm heavy on Chase and use the BCP for groceries. But with food inflation so dang high the $6k/year cap is laughably low.
Great for cash back!
I mean, even if single I think the BCP could be worth it. Im single and dont spend more then maybe 240 dollars a month on actual groceries, but I also buy gift cards at stores. but maybe even then i would have been better off with the BCE?
I have the Amex BCP
And live in a 4 person
Household spend $495
To $500 and sometimes
Over $600 in groceries
And you have to put gas
In your car so I love this
Card and I also use the
Capital one savor one card
@@joemama69448 I use the Chase Freedom during their 3 month 5% to keep my cap close to the $6k, I probably still barely go over yearly.
Thanks for the content. 🏆
Whoa, those are the poker chips in the movie Rounders in the KGB scenes. Nice. "He beat me... Straight up... Pay him... Pay that man his money."
Can you put up a link to your "Credit Card Graveyard" box? Looked perfect for my needs for the same reason
Great video Sebby! If you are team travel, I can definitely see only focusing on the AMEX MR and hotel cards. There are plenty of other banks with fantastic cash back cards. Personally, I get a lot of value from the BCP for groceries and streaming.
🏆 I pretty much in the same boat as Sebby, except that I have the Hilton biz but not the bonvoy biz. Being in the military and af waived on personal cards, I’ve maxed out the 5 personal cards/biz and half way on their charge card with 5 platinums. I’ll be done after I cancel my delta gold biz and get the Bonvoy biz.
One of the “cash back” card I’ve opened and kept has been the BBP solely to hold on to my memberships reward points . Most of my spend is with Chase (for Hyatt ) so I only have a Platinum or Gold open half the time
🏆 I was planning to go for the other MR cards but with the family rule am I still able to? Has anyone gotten the other cards despite having a prior MR?
I started with the vanilla due to the prior recommendation for the best offer first.
@AskSebby what other bank cards did you avoid? Good video idea.
Is your current strategy for Hilton certificates for your spends?
Hi Sebby, I have the Amex Brilliant Bonvoy and I was approved for the Bevy last week.....
Wow! I don't know the strange rules so guess YMMV!
🏆 so the Sebby unboxing Blue Cash Preferred isn’t coming? lol.
I haven’t started with AMEX yet. Although the Hilton offers were good, I just haven’t decided where to go yet.
Great content 🏆
So I'm a newbie to the CC points world. My main card now is my Venture X and I have about 60k points so far. I have a trip planned for Turkey in a couple of months. What's the best way for me to maximize points on it? Through the Capitol One portal or transfer elsewhere?
A setup that's worked well for me is Schwab platinum and BCP (w/ a Players 2 and 3 for groceries, gas & streaming) on the personal side, and Plum on the business side. The Plum's "no interest for 60 days" has done wonders for the business cash flow and provide me a much better "value" than MR points that I'd get w/ a Business Gold, for example.
🏆 I do contract work overseas. I have the Amex Platinum but it's extremely difficult to get value out of it outside of the USA. As it bills itself as one of the premier travel cards you'd think that it would try to appeal more internationally.
Hey Sebby what made you skip out on the EDP?
🏆 You mean to tell me you’re not going after the Kehinde Wiley Centurion?????
1. Finish line with Amex when I have a bonvoy Biz and multiple Bonvoy Brilliants.
2. Depends. What have you seen with regards to upgrade offers? I’m kinda looking to protect my 5/25 status, but also work my way through green, gold, platinum
if you look at the terms and conditions now of the platinum and get that first now, you lock yourself out of getting the bounce for the gold.
so that being said, would you get the gold first?
SEBBY?
All of them!
That's pretty wild to hear you're at the end of applying for Amex cards. I wonder if they'll approve you for bonuses on cards you canceled a long time ago
Got the Platinum right before Amex changed the rules, so I’m skipping the gold and the green. Don’t really use Marriott (we prefer Hilton), so don’t see a need. I’ve held off on the Hilton cards for now because I am working on the Chase eco-system and trying to avoid 5/24. Business cards are tempting, but holding off for now. I am in “hold” mode on Amex.
I’m almost done gotta get surpass instead of business ! Skipped all delta cards because my airport doesn’t have delta ✈️
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Yeah I’m not risking it with the Amex Hilton cards. Will start with the honors express later this year and will slowly climb the latter to aspire in a few years.
🏆 I have consistent small spend instead of big bursts so it's hard for me to take advantage of huge SUBs, so for me cards like the BBP are perfect. They just removed shipping from the Business Gold so that ones kinda dead to me. The end game for me just seems to be the boring old Trifecta.
Im pretty happy with my current AmEx cards:
Gold, Green, BCP, & Marriott Busines
I also just snagged the BBP with a 50k sub on $8k spend! 😁
The only other personal AmEx card i really want is the Hilton Surpass.
On the business side i want the business Platnium, Amazon business, & Plum. Maybe the business Gold.
What’s a good way to apply for the Green Card then Gold then Platinum card to get the sub for each? I don’t plan to keep each card, might cancel them all. Just don’t want to be in pop up jail when moving up the ladder.
The BCP also gives 6% back on any Apple App Store and subscriptions. I have it but don’t think I’m going to keep it. Audible getting taken out of the platinum credit makes it so Hulu is the only thing I can use it for. It makes that card much less valuable
I also canceled my blue Business Plus this year. Not worth the Amex credit card spot.
Hi. I was wondering about the amex rule of how often you can get approved for a card. I got the delta gold on Feb 28th . I then got the Hilton surpass on April 7th . I now want to grab the Hilton honors before the elevated offer is over on April 17th. Would it be too soon to get approved before the elevated offer expires? Thanks
AMEX has a 5 days and 90 days rule. The second card application has to be at least 5 days after the first, and the third has to be at least 90 days after the second. Based on that you would be automatically rejected for the Hilton card anytime before July. Of course you can always try since you will get a decision with just a soft pull.
Investor Card was my second card in college but I haven't used it in years except for those rare offers that they have. Nice protections though. 🏆
🏆🏆 gotta watch the whole thing for the algorithm
Thinking of getting the platinum and adding my sister as a user. If she decides to get her own platinum is she able to get the info bonus?
Yes
🏆 #1 - Would feel accomplished if I could stay under 10% utilization no matter what choices I made on a daily basis. That would be pretty amazing! #2 - Have been good at not applying randomly anymore. Did a product change to get some rewards from my use of current cards. Amex will be entering the personal side soon, i hope!
Those are some cool card storage bins. So why do you need to keep them exactly? Are these all active or some just to keep for memories?
Question: traveling to Conrad Maldives soon but Amex Hilton Aspire triggers popup jail supposedly due to having the other 2. Is it worth applying anyways for potential upgrades and benefits? 🏆
Yes, if you value breakfast.
@@AskSebbyi thought gold already gave breakfast.
Good catch! YMMV on upgrades.
Yeah I’m just worried to get it just for an upgrade when I’ve heard upgrades at the conrad and waldorf maldives are highly unlikely
For me Hilton Honors cards are the only AMEX cards that I'll get and continue to hold on until they go bad. I really don't want to go through AMEX coupon book every month to make sure that I'm getting the most out of the annual membership fees with gold and platinum cards. So, all the other MR-earning cards are also nono for me. I'd rather get Chase Ritz Carlton card instead of AMEX Marriott Bonvoy cards. I rarely fly Delta because there's no hub near where I live.
🏆I'm pretty much done, as I've no interest in most of the business cards (too many coupons, too high spend) or cashback cards. I've already gotten Platinum/Gold/Green/EDP/Schwab Investor/Hilton no-fee, and keeping the Delta Platinum, Hilton Surpass, EveryDay and BBP long-term. Aspire was on the radar before the refresh, definite skip now, along with the Delta Reserve. Missed the boat on the other flavors of Platinum.
I’m a corporate pilot and live half my life in marriotts and Hilton’s. Check out what Hilton is doing instead of .005 $ per point it’s slipped. I calc it’s worth .0035 now for Hilton. Makes my Hilton Amex less than a 2% anywhere but at Hilton.
Hi Sebby! do you think the Hilton Honors Surpass the best credit card to sign up for if I plan to spend 28k at a Hilton hotel venue? 155k sign up plus 12x points for Hilton charges. Could potentially be 491k points total plus free 5th night and another free night for 15k spend.
This could be 5-6 nights in bora bora, Maldives, etc. At least 5-6k in hotel nights.
What do you think? Just worried Hilton points aren’t as valuable. Would be my first Amex
One catch is you have to book those hotels super early. The standard rate in those properties run out quickly (book a year ahead!) premium rate reward is ridiculous.
@@WeiliXu88 standard being low 100k per night?
@@jonathanh5134correct, WA line is typically 90k to 120k per night. Non standard rate can be anywhere 400k to over million points per night. I usually book 10-12 mo. ahead (depending when the hotel is available for booking) to lock the standard rate. You can cancel anytime later if your travel plan changes.
Might be a stupid question but what do you do when the card goes in the grave yard? Do you cancel the cards or just stop using them?
Graveyard box = product changes, expired, or closed cards.
I've only had the Original Blue Cash for 20+ years and don't think I'll ever get another AMEX; too easy to just pay property taxes to get past the annual $6,500 spend (sort of like annual fee) to earn the higher 5% cash back up to $50k spend at grocery, gas and drug stores.🏆
EDP is a keeper card for me
From AE I think the Marriott Brilliant is not worth the hype anymore. I used to have it and went as far as cancel it (yes, sorry Sebby, I did cancel it). The status means nothing here in the US and most of the continent to be honest. The credits can mostly be had with the other cards in the stable and the free night hardly justifies the fee. All and all I was disappointed after they raised the fee of this card.
US is the worst for upgrades across all hotel groups.
Well I agree with not worth the hype but doesn't mean you can't justify it. I would get two if I can and I am very happy with that card year in year out.
Majority of people stick with one brand and card. People don’t go around asking for credit cards to have welcome offers That’s the reality
It’s hard to navigate several annual fees. That’s what holds us back
I fly Delta all the time and love their service, only one time experience in the Minneapolis airport was weird so I will avoid flying through there. So I have the Amex Reserved Card. I get a companion certificate to not only the US but also to Mexico and the Caribbean. That could be worth the annual fee by itself. Lounge access is great. I like eating and drinking at the airport to relax before catching my connecting flight. The last time I was at the new Centurion Lounge in Atlanta and I paid zero dollars for my 2 hrs+ stay. In the past, I would have paid at least $70 for that time at the airport between food and drinks. So again, another good reason to have the Delta Reserved card. And of course, not to mention flying first class using Miles was great this Spring. So, I love having this Amex card. I pair it with Amex Green for restaurants and then I transfer them to my Sky Miles account. Nice. And I also have the Amex Preferred Card for Groceries and gas for cash back. Maybe not the best trifecta, but it works nicely for me 🏆- Thank you!
Sign up bonuses are a one-time consideration. There is a lot more to consider when choosing a card. I like your info, but I think in this video you may be putting too much emphasis on this one aspect. Most people plan to keep the card for years and not churn them to keep stacking SUB's. I don't travel though, so maybe my outlook is just biased away from trying to stack up points.
What is the problem with the Schwab Investor card?
My wife really likes lounge access and in our anecdotal experience Amex is more likely to have a lounge accessible at a given airport.
I love my BCE, just enough Amex flex without paying fees I don’t need. 😎
🏆 I'm good with Amex once I get the Gold, Platinum (any flavor) and maybe run the Delta gauntlet starting with the Delta Gold. I have the Surpass and Aspire and I think I'm good with those. I doubt I'll need to work around the five-card limit.
11k on a Pepsi? I'll sell you one of those! Think of the points you'd get!
Haha, already have one reserved at retail.
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What’s the 300k video going to be 👀🏆
🏆I feel guilty being on team travel and worse team status (Delta Reserve) - a 2% CB WF card is smarter.
I have Plat vanilla, Delta Reserve and recently Brilliant.
I would guess that someday I succumb to a Hilton Aspire.
My fantasy next Amex is an Optio.
“Lifetime” with Amex used to mean “7 years”.
Thought it still was?
@@blademasterzero52956-10 now it feels
Right? What do you mean “used to” 😅
🏆"A few of these [graveyards]", haha!
I slow/will stop with Amex at any point that risks RAT action.
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🏆 What was that card holder that you showed at the end of the video?
CM tool does not work
YMMV. Not everyone will get targeted.
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Thx Sebby , great report. I’m considering travel card optimized cards, I’m based of the greater Seattle, would you have recommendation around airlines and hotels rewards as SEATAC being your home port? Alaska vs Delta , Hilton vs Marriott’s/ other ?
🏆 11K? That’s an expensive Pepsi.
🏆Stack business plat NLL. 1m mr not enuf pto😂
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Im in the pop up jail for Amex. 1 year still
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🏆 you said that you rather have another Hilton cc but aren't you limit to 3 Hilton cc? So what do you pick for the other 2 slots?
Marriott
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You have to wonder what his credit history look like??!!😅😂😂
Amazing since I still have most of the cards.
🏆, IMO right now the only Amex worth it is the Plat. and only bc centurion longes. I think the market has gotten pretty competitive and there are other options that fit more of the everyday needs people have. AKA the Venture X with 2X on everything and Priority Pass
You must not eat if the Gold isn't attractive to you.
@@michaelgrayson409Gold is trash while traveling outside the US.
🏆. Same here. It feels like I’m pretty much done with Amex. Aside from the Aspire I’ve had every other card I have wanted. The Aspire will come later this year and then I’m good. 👌🏼
Amex is not worth it. It was always not the best but now it's obvious.
Do you have the Amex Plum? 🏆💳📕
No
I do it’s a solid care with repayment flexibility with 1.5% early pay cash back. Excellent card to run tons of business spend through with the option of a 60 day repayment window.
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Who’s your NBA MVP Sebastian? 🏆
Love Joker, but it's Luka for me.
@@AskSebbythank god someone agrees, man he’s been insane this year 34/9/10 🤯
No one has “finished” Amex cards until you have the centurion
I don’t care for any arguments otherwise
The Green actually can impact you on the “5 card rule”, to be clear. They’re still treating that one as fish nor fowl.🏆
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