I have an EVO X MR touring, basically the same as this car but without the navigation and I have to say I absolutely love it. The look, the power, the handling, it's all incredible. After driving this car, you'll never want to drive anything else. The EVO X is truly a work of art.
Yes, yes you can. Navigation package is separate from the sight and sound package which is the one that comes with the 710 watt Rockford Fosgate system.
How many miles does your car have? How is the realizability? I'm thinking about getting one for my wife . I just hate that the back seats don't come down.
Well, i actually got rid of my MR to get a GSR, which is the manual EVO X. My MR had about 50,000 on it, my new one isn't over 40,000 yet, it's a 2011. Yeah the reason the back seats don't come down is because the battery and windshield wiper fluid are in the trunk.
Hi guys, I live in new york and I owned a 07 bmw 328i until 3 weeks ago when I traded it in for a 2012 Mitsubishi evolution gsr. I had a lot of reliability problems with the bimmer and for 3 years straight I had problems getting around in the snow. I love the evo. Really! I love this car. People look at it when I drive and give me a thumbs up. When im parked it have people walk up to check it out. The car is a legend and we should treat its bloodline with respect. Dont knock a car until you drive one especially this evo X. Its not the fastest but over all its the most capable. When you are stuck in the snow in your expensive European cars, or sexy American v8s, I will be getting to work or returning home with a smile on my face. I also own a fully modified honda civic and the evo is great to have.
Watched this video for 2 years on and off in love with the blue Evo. After a year of searching I purchased the exact car. 2011 MR Touring, octane blue. Thanks guys for the great review and the motivation.
You don't need a sun roof, nor navigation, or rear cámara... But your wife does. That's why this car is perfect for me. I love the car. I don't need all that, but all those extra things make the difference when you are married with children. The woman likes the sun, the loud music. The space for 3 children... This car is perfect for the married man that needs performance, out of a family car.
We hope you noticed that the WRX we had was only a few thousand less than the Golf R, and the Evo MR can be found for 5-7k less than the model in this review. Many times the Press cars available tie our hands in regards to "as Tested" price. But in the end, the less expensive WRX came in ahead of the R, and Paul even picked it ahead of the Evo! We expect that will be helpful to many people. But you are welcome to disagree.
i have owned an STi i have had a Golf R , ive driven alot of nice fast cars ..... but everytime i drive my evo x Mr the smile it gives me the car is just so good , it just feels so right
We had 2 Mrs. Sold them for personal reasons and regret it big time!! Now we have 1 and 1 being shipped to us as I type this lol. Old: wicked white and phantom black New: octane blue pearl and rally red
This review is what prompted me to buy my EvoXMR Touring Edition and I happily pay ever month for it. So thanks guys for giving me that push to Just do it. And who knows... maybe this Nissan alliance will give the Evo that sense of Urgency to return to the streets.
Something to consider now since the car hasn't been built for 4 years. In North America, there was never more than 900 Evo X MR's released. Over 8 years, there was only just over 3000 shipped to North America. Some years 500, 2014 had 808 shipped. This puts every years of the X MR in the rare category which makes the car that much more desireable. People are still talking about, new videos are released every day about it. That says alot about the impact the Evo still has.
We originally tested the GSR version of the Evo X. It's available on our channel and linked at the end of this piece as well. We hope you'll watch that one as well. Thanks!
You're right, VW aimed it at the bigger boys because of price - but they can't have everything. In many ways you are supporting our premise here... How can this be rigged in the Golf R's favor when it came in LAST against both its intended targets and those beneath it (the Standard WRX)? We hope you watched the entire piece and the conclusions... Meanwhile, over at the Golf R comments people are accusing us of scaring folks away from the Golf R! Either way, thanks for your thoughts.
I don't understand why no one can get over the evo interior. Everyone knows its cheap but I don't care how full of plastic it is as long as you can still run circles around all the subaru fanboys.
We're glad you're a fan of what we do. It's clear you don't like the Evo, and we respect that. The guys do agree with you that this car is certainly not for everyone, and in spite of its performance it does require a lot of maintenance costs. We greatly appreciate you sharing your thoughts, and we're glad to have you as a viewer! Please share our show with others. Thanks again!
I got my mr two weeks ago and im in love, im about to finish breaking it in. Also I got my mr for 39k with a sunroof, leather seats, all that except the navigation which I don't need
Chris Cav yes especially when driving on traffic, I used it as a daily driver. When I want to speed I switch the mode from normal, to sport or to super sport than I switch it so where I can control the gear shifting. It is so worth it breaks a lot of necks as well lol that doesn't hurt
eli hernandez breaks who's necks? That car is an ugly POS. The only thing it looks decent for is the suspension/performance/brakes/transmission everything else is elantra class.
How you liking it so far? I own a 2012 mustang gt (auto) and am looking to get this (auto) for my wife. Do you know what your 1/4 mile times are by any chance? How is the reliability? How many miles does your car have?
I'm watching this 10 years too late. Like you said, none of us cared about anything else Mitsubishi made, the problem is nobody else cared, either, let alone caring about the evo. I LOVE my wrx but am not ashamed to admit that if they didn't cost twice as much I'd probably have an evo
I am with these guys. How on earth with a vehicle such as this does mitsubishi produce what is the probably the worst line up on cars on the planet? Not any one of their other cars is even worth looking at for purchase. Every other car manufacturer produces something much better than any thing else mitsubishi produces, while all so costing so much less. And now that they have decided to can the evo, we can probably say good bye to mitsubishi here in the states. It sucks too, because I have such a soft spot in me for mitsubishi with their older cars. Like the galant vr4, and 3000gt. Those are such exciting cars, and would be a joy to own. And the evo has all ways been a dream car of mine...
Wait a minute, you have a soft spot for the Galant? Why? What am I missing here. I didn't know there was anything special about the Galant? Why is Mitsuibishi seemingly not even trying to produce a winning product? Strange
to make sales, these are road cars after all performance cars are just expensive and annoying to own, you really have to be a hoon to own one which most people are not. cheap affordable cars make a lot of money
I bought a 2014 Mirage back in May. It's definitely got a TON of potential for a sleeper, since it weighs under 2000 lbs and has a very low drag coefficient, so a little extra power can go a MUCH longer way. But holy hell, that suspension needs stiffening!
MrGovenator1 I couldn't agree more brotha..... Mitsubishi is making junk anymore....I have loved Mitsubishi since I was a teenager, my parents helped me get a loan on a brand new 98 eclipse gst
I never get tired of watching these guys. They don't deviate too far from the other car review channels in terms of their comments, but the video editing that shows back and forth comments between the two reviewers in the same car is innovative. I find it more entertaining to listen to what sounds like a conversation than a monologue.
Lol you can find a new evo mr for under 40k.. can they name a 4 door performance car with a Dual clutch that can do a 4.5 to 60? With a crazy smart AWD system that makes it great on tracks ? Brembo breaks and recaro seats? And that has a huge after market following ? They do much research about 53 we cars.. to much face value generalizations.
What people don't realize is the EVO is expensive because of the equipments it has. Sure it looks like a eco box car, but it's got dual clutch gearbox and active yaw control for both axles and active center diff. No other car in it's class has either of them but adjustable center diff and it's not even as high tech as evo's center diff.
Exactly. I just bought a base 2014 GSR. I came from a mkv r32. While I did lose some features in the interior of my evo compared to the R32. Once you drive the Evo you don't really give a fuck about interior features. Its all about the driving experience. if People want a nice Luxurious Interior then don't buy an Evo. Its that simple
LOL... I am glad that you guys post a polite reply. Unlike MotorTrend, they banned me when I complained about their female (blond) have no idea about cars and shouldn't host car reviews again!
You're right. Should have said 'in my opinion', that's what I meant anyway. The GTR is still a fascinating piece of engineering and design, but the front just feels wrong. If they had kept the same breeding as the R33 and R34, with horizontal headlights, the R35 would have been perfect IMHO.
I agree with not needing a NAV screen. My phone is my navigation and it always has been. There is no need to spend a bunch of money on navigation when the thing I carry around in my pocket everywhere I go does a better job anyway.
I was thinking the entire time "The WRX is being compared to high model cars like EVO and GTi and the WRX isnt even the fastest Subaru." Goes to show Subies kick ass!
Great review. But ultimately, most VW fanboys will cry about it the best way they know how. By comparing interior materials & reminding us why their soft-touch dashboards make the Golf R superior to everything out there.
Mitsubishi would sell more cars if they brought back the turbo v6 eclipse with a awd or rwd setup, instead of just canceling it or designing a new version of the 3000gt.
I enjoyed your review very much. Just wanted to point out, that the evo does not and can not actively distribute power to any of the 4 wheels. The front is a standard helical LSD. The center differential is always a 50-50 power split, just with varrying clamping force. The rear yaw control is the only active differential which can control how much power it sends to either rear wheel. The settings in the car also only control how the center differential reacts. But so true the addiction though!
I may be alone in this but I like my Evo's interior. The 2013+ model years received amaterials upgrade. It's not alcantara, but it's no longer hard plastics everywhere.
Motortrend didn't like the Evo X at their best driver's car competition. They said it felt like the centre of gravity is too high and that sometimes the tail would come out without any warning.
+Kern O'Leary The R puts down identical performance numbers to the new STI and has a far better quality to the interior. I don't know what tuned STI's and Evo X's run but the R with a tune will run low 12's in the 1/4 mile. Seems one of the main differences that the R has going for it vs the other's in the list is the understated looks. Nothing flashy about it, no wing or anything like that. It's very unassuming.
Great review guys. I've driven all three, owned previous versions of the Evo (IX) and Golf, and I still picked the WRX. Dark grey in sedan form. I got tired of the constant maintenance every two weeks on the Evo, and tires ate up money I could have used on aftermarket parts. The Golf (R32 and GTI) were very refined and I'd recommend them to anyone looking for a great car. I just wanted the WRX, knowing I could get to work every day, and capable of finding trouble if I wanted to.
I'm at a loss idk if I should get the GSR or MR. I'm leaning a little toward the MR more since people say it's better in traffic. But idk, I'm definitely getting an evo though before I lose my chance at getting one since it's their last year of production. any suggestions?
If you are planning on upgrading and not breaking the bank (as much) then get the GSR. The MR is great for stop and go but the tranny can only handle so much power before you have to upgrade the internals. I have a 2015 MR and love it. No Recaros though...
Please see the stat sheet. The STI would wipe the floor with the EVO MR and Golf R...and the WRX would be one of two worthy competitors in the second category you've made.
I have watched your reviews with Evos in them way too many times. Great reviews. I love your premise on this series, finding the place for the GTR. All nice cars, but i'm a Mitsu guy. I bought a 2013 Evo GSR in Wicked White a month ago. It's the best thing I've ever bought. Big thanks to the guys for all their work. I must agree with Todd about the Evo.....they are incredible.
Um? I don't understand. Beginning of the video, you stated that "it's low maintenance cost girlfriend." Toward the end, you said it's high maintenance cost... uh.......
The Low-Maintenance girlfriend comment is part of the opening where we're reviewing some of the things said about the WRX. At the end, we're discussing the maintenance of the EVO X. We hope that clarifies and thanks for Watching.
My Evo X MR, it s like a high maintenance girlfriend that whisper to your ear, while you re already corner like mad man, and tesaid: "go faster sweety...a lot faster"....arrgggg I love my Evo X :)
The first time I watch any everyday driver video. I always thought you guys were trying too hard to make your videos a hit. But after watch a few more videos, I realize y'all make sense. The videos you shoot are thought out and straight-forward. Thanks (good show)
We're thrilled you like what we do, thank you! Any high-performance car will require a good amount of maintenance. Evo and STI are both pretty high-strung with owners on both sides debating reliability. But, the Evo is known to require regular service, goes through tires quickly, and can be expensive to insure. Owners putting lots of track time on their Evos can put a few grand a year into the car to keep it in top shape. So usage is a factor. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Are u serious man lol? That Evo and Impresa its not the best of there rank, dont even try to compare a golf to those Legend cars, if u want a Evo or Impresa i can talk u about some... golf is a day to day car MOSTLY, and Evo and Impresa, are for that to and if u want u can do rally or go simply to circuits doing some curves like a boss... and they have awesome acceleration, and their speed is limited dont forget, and still they can hit 270km or more. They have their names written in history, cant say the same about golf. Now u sure like golfs u must be a fan for talking like that and i dont blame u.
Paulo Barbosa bro an evo is my dream car.... im just not lying to myself. an evo hasnt won a world rally event since 1999 with the evo 6 . you asked what its doing here .... i was answering you initial question. i think the question to you is how are these cars NOT comparable? i dont need to go and list the things in the video and NO im not saying a golf r is as good as an evo. its just a rediculous comment "what is that little vw doing here" when it has more power than any evo ever
I'd go WRX best for the money. EVO X MR for suspension stiffness, handling, transmission and overall sophistication. And the Volkswagen, for, well.. nothing. I do like the Jetta for the money, best handling FWD car I've driven (rent a car). And the Jetta Hybrid kicks the Prius's ass. How did I go from talking about an EVO to a Prius?
In 2010 Mitsubishi released a small number of Evo X SEs (340 to be a act). It’s the car you guys were looking for. All of the go fast bits for the MR (SST transmission, Bilstein dampers, Eibach springs, aluminum roof) with none of the frills: no leather, no sun roof, no nav system/hard drive). It sold for about $36K - much cheaper than an MR. They were released to the dealers a couple of months before the 2011models, so by early 2011, the dealers would let them go fairly cheap. They are still out there. Extremely rare and under appreciated.
Thanks for sharing your experience here. Any car can be altered by aftermarket tuning, but it makes comparisons nearly impossible as the variables are always changing - so we review cars the way the Manufacturers offer them. We applaud you for driving all those cars yourself in your buying process. Ultimately, we want people to go out and form opinions about these cars from first hand experience. Bravo, and congrats on your Golf R. Thanks a lot for watching and sharing your thoughts!
"This car thinks about what you're trying to do..." and back when I used it for 2 seasons of autocross, it guessed wrong *a lot*. Its happy place is a canyon road.
We aren't debating your listing of prices or grouping of cars. However, as explained in the opening... VW themselves says the Golf R competes with the STI and Evo, but the cars capabilities clearly put it in the realm of the WRX and Ralliart. So, we brought a car from each of those groups to discuss if VW's placement was correct. We're sorry that you missed the explanation in the video.
This testing group has worked for many people as a way to place R in the world. Obviously, we know it isn't going to work for everyone, but it hardly negates the discussion - especially since we explain our reasons and discuss the STI at the end. Having said that - You are more than welcome to make your own car show and "Do it Right". We will watch it and applaud you.
Thanks for the review. I'm looking at the EVO now. Just used though. As was said, it is just too expensive at $45k. Hope to knock it down to 28ish used.
You are correct that the Evo and WRX are not natural competitors. We hope you listened to the explanation at the beginning of the video which explains why we brought the WRX and the EVO to this comparison.
I NEED an Evo, too! I hope the next gen is just as fun. And Mitsubishi : please inject some driving fun in more of your models! Great comparo, guys...love the channel!
The stats that the EVO and STi get from that small of an engine is amazing, where Lambos have to move up to a V12 just to break 650hp (but they still can't do anything other than go fast) I want something to be an offroad beast, and still carry my family around, and the EVO has provided me with that. Both the STi and EVO are rally rooted, extraordinary works of engineering, and can show up cars that cost 3 times as much, depending on the conditions, and that's why I love them.
We encourage you to watch the opening explanation... or the closing one, for that matter. As stated many times, this is not about the Evo vs. STI, but about finding where the Golf R fits.
I think they chose the WRX because the stats of the VW match better with the WRX than it des with the STI, and they used the EVO to prove that VW's claim of it being a competitor with the EVO and STI isn't very valid
It's a pretty big assumption to think we don't read or watch the work of others. We have no interest in copying anyone else, but we don't live in isolation. We respect that you didn't like this comparison. There are those that agree with you, and others who did enjoy the discussion - We know that will always be the case. We hope you'll stick around and enjoy our work. Or, conversely, stick around and tell us the things you don't like next time. We welcome the discussion.
That's the sad thing about Volkswagen and most of its group. Car reviewers always claim how "durable" the fit and finish is, and while it is true initially it all falls apart so quickly. Having owned an Audi A4, and gone through the large list of problems it had, I no longer have respect for VW. What's the point of car ownership if it causes headaches 50% of the time?
We hope you noticed that Todd said he didn't need those things "on an EVO". He finds the upper package on the Evo (which adds about $5k - the sunroof etc.) brings unneeded extras to a car of this type. And any smartphone can take the place of most nav systems. The guys focus on the driving fun of a car, but we do connect our phones and try out the extras in everything we review. We appreciate your comment and hope you'll watch more of what we do.
First let me say I am a bit biased because I own and drive an 04 R32. That said I think the V-dub got a raw deal in this review. The whole premise is supposed to be about which one of these cars would make the best every day driver. My cousin owns an '11 WRX, and I have driven the EVO, I haven't driven the golf R so I can only go off what I know about my own car, but as an everyday driver I think the V-dub is the best choice. Think about it, they are out here carving up some back canyon roads, and yeah I guess if thats what every day driving was like I'd probably want an EVO too, or the WRX even, but thats nothing what every day driving is. For most of us every day driving is about getting around town, running errands, going to work, and maybe hitting up some backroads here and there on the way home. If thats what I'm going to be doing most of the time, I want a car that is super comfy to drive, has nice creature comforts and a good radio (VW) and still fun and spirited. I will gladly give up a little performance to have the MUCH MUCH nicer interior, good ride, and creature comforts (OMG being from the midwest I love the heated seats) and still have a fun and spirited car to drive. Personally, I love blending into traffic and not have the stigma of having the lookit me fast n furious WRX/STI/EVO bro look. The people who I want to notice me, do, and to most of the people I don't want to notice me I'm just another golf on the road. I just feel its a much more practical car and its a lot nicer to live with. I guess thats why I personally chose an R over a subie or mitsubishi.
I can't believe the EVO doesn't have a fully adjustable steering wheel. That's nearly a deal breaker for me. Other than that. If I drove it and loved it as much as they did, I'd just look at it as a poor mans GTR or Carrera 4S and pay the $45k. Those two cars are over twice as expensive.
Picked up my 2013 Evo GSR in white two weeks ago. Ten grand less than your blue one. Love it. It's the single most awesome piece of matter I've ever owned. You are correct, you just have to drive them to understand. It's a surprisingly good daily driver, too.
@Ge0vone The evo handles slightly better than the STI because its stuffed full of gadgets, but is it worth the extra for such little gains? Plus when top gear reviewed both cars the STI was slightly faster round their track, which put a downer on the extra £££ for the evo X even more
VW had to be smoking some GOOOD herb if they thought the Golf R could hang with a Evo, or even an WRX! Also, that inline 6 in the VW is only good for another 20whp if you added intake, exhaust and tuning. The turbo 4's will get you another 70-100whp simply from an intake, exhaust and tuning! So much more potential with the turbo's, the VW would need a supercharger or turbo to make over 300hp, for sure!
If you add $800 to the Golf R, you can get about 100 extra horses out of it, and then it could compete. Honestly, I'd just get a WRX though. Or a used Sti
I'm not ashamed to say I work basically just to own an EVO. That's how much I'm addicted to it. It's like the best g/f you've had and never want to let her go.
Good on you guys for not loosing it on idiot commenters and actually addressing them in a polite manner even though you don't have to. Love all the videos, keep it up guys.
Love your work! Fair, entertaining, but always focused on delivering a fair review. Earned a subscriber! If possible, I hope you guys can do an article/video on how to properly research/buy a used car, since you guys also emphasize price and affordability for "everyday" drivers. I know a lot of viewers, including myself, would benefit :)
I have an EVO X MR touring, basically the same as this car but without the navigation and I have to say I absolutely love it. The look, the power, the handling, it's all incredible. After driving this car, you'll never want to drive anything else. The EVO X is truly a work of art.
Niko Bellic i didnt know you could get an mr without gps
Yes, yes you can. Navigation package is separate from the sight and sound package which is the one that comes with the 710 watt Rockford Fosgate system.
You have a Kuruma?
How many miles does your car have? How is the realizability? I'm thinking about getting one for my wife . I just hate that the back seats don't come down.
Well, i actually got rid of my MR to get a GSR, which is the manual EVO X. My MR had about 50,000 on it, my new one isn't over 40,000 yet, it's a 2011. Yeah the reason the back seats don't come down is because the battery and windshield wiper fluid are in the trunk.
Hi guys, I live in new york and I owned a 07 bmw 328i until 3 weeks ago when I traded it in for a 2012 Mitsubishi evolution gsr. I had a lot of reliability problems with the bimmer and for 3 years straight I had problems getting around in the snow. I love the evo. Really! I love this car. People look at it when I drive and give me a thumbs up. When im parked it have people walk up to check it out. The car is a legend and we should treat its bloodline with respect. Dont knock a car until you drive one especially this evo X. Its not the fastest but over all its the most capable. When you are stuck in the snow in your expensive European cars, or sexy American v8s, I will be getting to work or returning home with a smile on my face. I also own a fully modified honda civic and the evo is great to have.
The EVO has broken the heart of many a BMW, AUDI and Porsche owner.
haha ikr shows how overpriced all the others are. you don't need to spend 80 or 100 grand
Not really
Watched this video for 2 years on and off in love with the blue Evo. After a year of searching I purchased the exact car. 2011 MR Touring, octane blue. Thanks guys for the great review and the motivation.
Very glad you enjoyed this film so much - and congrats on getting a car you love!
greenfire919 hey, do you still have your evo x mr?
You don't need a sun roof, nor navigation, or rear cámara... But your wife does. That's why this car is perfect for me. I love the car. I don't need all that, but all those extra things make the difference when you are married with children. The woman likes the sun, the loud music. The space for 3 children... This car is perfect for the married man that needs performance, out of a family car.
Tu Padre 👍
@Mathieu Morin fully stripped, gutted, driver seat only =D
@Dika Vinci sounds single.
Your giving me hope
We hope you noticed that the WRX we had was only a few thousand less than the Golf R, and the Evo MR can be found for 5-7k less than the model in this review. Many times the Press cars available tie our hands in regards to "as Tested" price. But in the end, the less expensive WRX came in ahead of the R, and Paul even picked it ahead of the Evo! We expect that will be helpful to many people. But you are welcome to disagree.
Still the best EVO review on youtube.
i have owned an STi i have had a Golf R , ive driven alot of nice fast cars ..... but everytime i drive my evo x Mr the smile it gives me the car is just so good , it just feels so right
my favorite car in the world, breaks my heart i cant have it. i will own one one day
I was in the same place. I couldn't fathom not owning an Evo. I did something about it thougj, got an MR 5 months ago with 8k on it :)
We had 2 Mrs. Sold them for personal reasons and regret it big time!! Now we have 1 and 1 being shipped to us as I type this lol.
Old: wicked white and phantom black
New: octane blue pearl and rally red
We hope you noticed that the WRX was given a very high rating and was Paul's first choice of the 3 because if how much car if offers for the money...
This review is what prompted me to buy my EvoXMR Touring Edition and I happily pay ever month for it. So thanks guys for giving me that push to Just do it. And who knows... maybe this Nissan alliance will give the Evo that sense of Urgency to return to the streets.
same for me.
Something to consider now since the car hasn't been built for 4 years. In North America, there was never more than 900 Evo X MR's released. Over 8 years, there was only just over 3000 shipped to North America. Some years 500, 2014 had 808 shipped. This puts every years of the X MR in the rare category which makes the car that much more desireable. People are still talking about, new videos are released every day about it. That says alot about the impact the Evo still has.
Engine is very nice and smooth, that's evo x benchmark for Japanese cars
You guys are so much better than those guys on Top Gear USA, you guys should have your own television show.
We originally tested the GSR version of the Evo X. It's available on our channel and linked at the end of this piece as well. We hope you'll watch that one as well. Thanks!
You're right, VW aimed it at the bigger boys because of price - but they can't have everything. In many ways you are supporting our premise here...
How can this be rigged in the Golf R's favor when it came in LAST against both its intended targets and those beneath it (the Standard WRX)? We hope you watched the entire piece and the conclusions... Meanwhile, over at the Golf R comments people are accusing us of scaring folks away from the Golf R!
Either way, thanks for your thoughts.
I don't understand why no one can get over the evo interior. Everyone knows its cheap but I don't care how full of plastic it is as long as you can still run circles around all the subaru fanboys.
I'm with you there my Evo final Edition gives the Subaru owners something to think about when they pull up against me!
We're glad you're a fan of what we do. It's clear you don't like the Evo, and we respect that. The guys do agree with you that this car is certainly not for everyone, and in spite of its performance it does require a lot of maintenance costs. We greatly appreciate you sharing your thoughts, and we're glad to have you as a viewer! Please share our show with others. Thanks again!
I got my mr two weeks ago and im in love, im about to finish breaking it in.
Also I got my mr for 39k with a sunroof, leather seats, all that except the navigation which I don't need
eli hernandez Question for ya...you prefer it over the GSR with the 5-speed? Looking into one but the MR does come with a lot of goodies over the GSR.
Chris Cav yes especially when driving on traffic, I used it as a daily driver. When I want to speed I switch the mode from normal, to sport or to super sport than I switch it so where I can control the gear shifting. It is so worth it breaks a lot of necks as well lol that doesn't hurt
eli hernandez That's awesome, thanks for the reply!
eli hernandez breaks who's necks? That car is an ugly POS. The only thing it looks decent for is the suspension/performance/brakes/transmission everything else is elantra class.
How you liking it so far? I own a 2012 mustang gt (auto) and am looking to get this (auto) for my wife. Do you know what your 1/4 mile times are by any chance? How is the reliability? How many miles does your car have?
I'm watching this 10 years too late. Like you said, none of us cared about anything else Mitsubishi made, the problem is nobody else cared, either, let alone caring about the evo. I LOVE my wrx but am not ashamed to admit that if they didn't cost twice as much I'd probably have an evo
I like the appearance and the brutal design of this car
Glad the dramatic music was short lived. Now for the car, it’s crazy to think what this car would cost new in 2023?
I am with these guys. How on earth with a vehicle such as this does mitsubishi produce what is the probably the worst line up on cars on the planet? Not any one of their other cars is even worth looking at for purchase. Every other car manufacturer produces something much better than any thing else mitsubishi produces, while all so costing so much less. And now that they have decided to can the evo, we can probably say good bye to mitsubishi here in the states. It sucks too, because I have such a soft spot in me for mitsubishi with their older cars. Like the galant vr4, and 3000gt. Those are such exciting cars, and would be a joy to own. And the evo has all ways been a dream car of mine...
Wait a minute, you have a soft spot for the Galant? Why? What am I missing here. I didn't know there was anything special about the Galant? Why is Mitsuibishi seemingly not even trying to produce a winning product? Strange
They made the Galant vr4. Go google it.
to make sales, these are road cars after all performance cars are just expensive and annoying to own, you really have to be a hoon to own one which most people are not.
cheap affordable cars make a lot of money
I bought a 2014 Mirage back in May. It's definitely got a TON of potential for a sleeper, since it weighs under 2000 lbs and has a very low drag coefficient, so a little extra power can go a MUCH longer way. But holy hell, that suspension needs stiffening!
MrGovenator1 I couldn't agree more brotha..... Mitsubishi is making junk anymore....I have loved Mitsubishi since I was a teenager, my parents helped me get a loan on a brand new 98 eclipse gst
I never get tired of watching these guys. They don't deviate too far from the other car review channels in terms of their comments, but the video editing that shows back and forth comments between the two reviewers in the same car is innovative. I find it more entertaining to listen to what sounds like a conversation than a monologue.
Lol you can find a new evo mr for under 40k.. can they name a 4 door performance car with a Dual clutch that can do a 4.5 to 60? With a crazy smart AWD system that makes it great on tracks ? Brembo breaks and recaro seats? And that has a huge after market following ? They do much research about 53 we cars.. to much face value generalizations.
What people don't realize is the EVO is expensive because of the equipments it has. Sure it looks like a eco box car, but it's got dual clutch gearbox and active yaw control for both axles and active center diff. No other car in it's class has either of them but adjustable center diff and it's not even as high tech as evo's center diff.
Only two ways to get an Evo X:
GSR Base with Dealer (or Aftermarket) Installed HID's
or
MR Base
No need for leather or anything else that adds weight.
Exactly. I just bought a base 2014 GSR. I came from a mkv r32. While I did lose some features in the interior of my evo compared to the R32. Once you drive the Evo you don't really give a fuck about interior features. Its all about the driving experience. if People want a nice Luxurious Interior then don't buy an Evo. Its that simple
LOL...
I am glad that you guys post a polite reply.
Unlike MotorTrend, they banned me when I complained about their female (blond) have no idea about cars and shouldn't host car reviews again!
"Its still one pissed off lizard" lol...
i know Im kinda off topic but do anybody know a good site to stream new tv shows online?
@Lawson Conner lately I have been using Flixzone. You can find it on google :)
You're right. Should have said 'in my opinion', that's what I meant anyway. The GTR is still a fascinating piece of engineering and design, but the front just feels wrong. If they had kept the same breeding as the R33 and R34, with horizontal headlights, the R35 would have been perfect IMHO.
more metaphors than an episode of family guy
and its only 10 minutes, lol
family guy has puns not metaphores
My favourite car of all time. Must get one of these as soon as I have the money.
Mitsubishi's downfall to discontinuation. THE PRICE! 😥
I agree with not needing a NAV screen. My phone is my navigation and it always has been.
There is no need to spend a bunch of money on navigation when the thing I carry around in my pocket everywhere I go does a better job anyway.
J : just
A: Awesome
P: Performance
I got my evo 10 Mr with 12000 miles, paid $ 34500 .. 5 years later may 2020 with 26990 miles, still in love with it...
The evo x in australia cost like 55k, i wish it was 45 or 35 in australia
I was thinking the entire time "The WRX is being compared to high model cars like EVO and GTi and the WRX isnt even the fastest Subaru." Goes to show Subies kick ass!
" i wonna lick it" exactly my thoughts for EVO!!!!
I always thought the EVO was on par with the STI until I saw this review... Now i see that the STI blows it out of the water for far less money!
Mitsubishi Lancer evo is the best
Great review. But ultimately, most VW fanboys will cry about it the best way they know how. By comparing interior materials & reminding us why their soft-touch dashboards make the Golf R superior to everything out there.
Mitsubishi would sell more cars if they brought back the turbo v6 eclipse with a awd or rwd setup, instead of just canceling it or designing a new version of the 3000gt.
Mitsubishi had a turbo v6 car eclipse ?
shaochia vang
No they didn't. Someone is sadly mistaken about that....
that was am autocorrect from my phone, i meant i4.
the twin turbo V6 galant or GTO should return..
John Vu reerdektvvel
I enjoyed your review very much. Just wanted to point out, that the evo does not and can not actively distribute power to any of the 4 wheels. The front is a standard helical LSD. The center differential is always a 50-50 power split, just with varrying clamping force. The rear yaw control is the only active differential which can control how much power it sends to either rear wheel. The settings in the car also only control how the center differential reacts. But so true the addiction though!
The evo is like Ronaldo on Portugal. One great star and trash everywhere else.
I may be alone in this but I like my Evo's interior. The 2013+ model years received amaterials upgrade. It's not alcantara, but it's no longer hard plastics everywhere.
Why are the rest of Mitsubishi cars so mind numbingly boring except the Evo? Good question.
Shem Mac hello, my name is eclipse!
Shem Mac hi guys, i m 3000gt!
Hello, Colt CZT here, how are you?
dont get any of them in Aus
Motortrend didn't like the Evo X at their best driver's car competition. They said it felt like the centre of gravity is too high and that sometimes the tail would come out without any warning.
IMO, the new Golf R makes this video obsolete. Hell... the new Civic Type R and the upcoming Focus RS are going to really shake things up.
+FastRedPonyCar rs and civic yes maybe golf r i dont think so .
+Kern O'Leary The R puts down identical performance numbers to the new STI and has a far better quality to the interior. I don't know what tuned STI's and Evo X's run but the R with a tune will run low 12's in the 1/4 mile.
Seems one of the main differences that the R has going for it vs the other's in the list is the understated looks. Nothing flashy about it, no wing or anything like that. It's very unassuming.
FastRedPonyCar Go watch their video comparing the STI, Evo, Focus RS, and Golf R. You might be surprised which one they ranked last. 😉
Great review guys. I've driven all three, owned previous versions of the Evo (IX) and Golf, and I still picked the WRX. Dark grey in sedan form. I got tired of the constant maintenance every two weeks on the Evo, and tires ate up money I could have used on aftermarket parts. The Golf (R32 and GTI) were very refined and I'd recommend them to anyone looking for a great car. I just wanted the WRX, knowing I could get to work every day, and capable of finding trouble if I wanted to.
I'm at a loss idk if I should get the GSR or MR. I'm leaning a little toward the MR more since people say it's better in traffic. But idk, I'm definitely getting an evo though before I lose my chance at getting one since it's their last year of production. any suggestions?
If you are planning on upgrading and not breaking the bank (as much) then get the GSR. The MR is great for stop and go but the tranny can only handle so much power before you have to upgrade the internals. I have a 2015 MR and love it. No Recaros though...
+Cesar Diaz I'm going with the gsr, thanks.
+Legit995 grats. you'll love it. I love driving the X
Why are they going to stop making them?
Darek M It’s not an automatic. It’s a dual-clutch, sequential shifting, automated manual.
Please see the stat sheet.
The STI would wipe the floor with the EVO MR and Golf R...and the WRX would be one of two worthy competitors in the second category you've made.
R.I.P MITSUBISHI EVOLUTION
I have watched your reviews with Evos in them way too many times. Great reviews. I love your premise on this series, finding the place for the GTR. All nice cars, but i'm a Mitsu guy. I bought a 2013 Evo GSR in Wicked White a month ago. It's the best thing I've ever bought. Big thanks to the guys for all their work. I must agree with Todd about the Evo.....they are incredible.
Um? I don't understand. Beginning of the video, you stated that "it's low maintenance cost girlfriend." Toward the end, you said it's high maintenance cost... uh.......
The Low-Maintenance girlfriend comment is part of the opening where we're reviewing some of the things said about the WRX. At the end, we're discussing the maintenance of the EVO X. We hope that clarifies and thanks for Watching.
EverydayDriver gotcha!
delsol7878 He was talking about the WRX not the EVO
+Stonewall Jack geez.. i would rather keep my P987. >=]
My Evo X MR, it s like a high maintenance girlfriend that whisper to your ear, while you re already corner like mad man, and tesaid: "go faster sweety...a lot faster"....arrgggg
I love my Evo X :)
I agree with Paul. For the money the WRX is the best choice. If money wasn't a factor the choice is obvious... EVO.
well in USA you can have 300 HP no problem in holland we realy cant only if you have alot of fucking money our gas costs fucking much
CarPassion you sound like a little baby grow up
The first time I watch any everyday driver video. I always thought you guys were trying too hard to make your videos a hit. But after watch a few more videos, I realize y'all make sense. The videos you shoot are thought out and straight-forward. Thanks (good show)
the worlds angriest lizard lmao
We're thrilled you like what we do, thank you! Any high-performance car will require a good amount of maintenance. Evo and STI are both pretty high-strung with owners on both sides debating reliability. But, the Evo is known to require regular service, goes through tires quickly, and can be expensive to insure. Owners putting lots of track time on their Evos can put a few grand a year into the car to keep it in top shape. So usage is a factor. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Wtf is that little volksswaggen doing here lol
Paulo Barbosa thats a golf r !
and? no one cares...
Paulo Barbosa and that car has more bhp than the evo or the wrx you goof . Shame you cant turn driver assists off.
Are u serious man lol? That Evo and Impresa its not the best of there rank, dont even try to compare a golf to those Legend cars, if u want a Evo or Impresa i can talk u about some... golf is a day to day car MOSTLY, and Evo and Impresa, are for that to and if u want u can do rally or go simply to circuits doing some curves like a boss... and they have awesome acceleration, and their speed is limited dont forget, and still they can hit 270km or more. They have their names written in history, cant say the same about golf. Now u sure like golfs u must be a fan for talking like that and i dont blame u.
Paulo Barbosa bro an evo is my dream car.... im just not lying to myself. an evo hasnt won a world rally event since 1999 with the evo 6 . you asked what its doing here .... i was answering you initial question. i think the question to you is how are these cars NOT comparable? i dont need to go and list the things in the video and NO im not saying a golf r is as good as an evo. its just a rediculous comment "what is that little vw doing here" when it has more power than any evo ever
I'd go WRX best for the money. EVO X MR for suspension stiffness, handling, transmission and overall sophistication. And the Volkswagen, for, well.. nothing. I do like the Jetta for the money, best handling FWD car I've driven (rent a car). And the Jetta Hybrid kicks the Prius's ass. How did I go from talking about an EVO to a Prius?
Too much metaphors back to back to back. Talk more about the car please and not stupid metaphors.
agreed
Turbo Kun metaphors so your ass can understand dummy
Yes I did? I also saw the whole video of their review on the WRX as well? have you?...?
If only I could find a video review like this of the Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 2G!
In 2010 Mitsubishi released a small number of Evo X SEs (340 to be a act). It’s the car you guys were looking for. All of the go fast bits for the MR (SST transmission, Bilstein dampers, Eibach springs, aluminum roof) with none of the frills: no leather, no sun roof, no nav system/hard drive). It sold for about $36K - much cheaper than an MR. They were released to the dealers a couple of months before the 2011models, so by early 2011, the dealers would let them go fairly cheap. They are still out there. Extremely rare and under appreciated.
VW compared the Gulf R to the STI and EVO. They were proving a point that the WRX out competes it
Just purchased an 08 MR, absolutely in love with it. Been my dream car since I can remember.
Great series guys! You guys get better with every show. Good production value too! Been a fan since day one, thank you!
Thanks for sharing your experience here. Any car can be altered by aftermarket tuning, but it makes comparisons nearly impossible as the variables are always changing - so we review cars the way the Manufacturers offer them.
We applaud you for driving all those cars yourself in your buying process. Ultimately, we want people to go out and form opinions about these cars from first hand experience. Bravo, and congrats on your Golf R. Thanks a lot for watching and sharing your thoughts!
LOVE your reviews guys, keep it up. I look forward to your reviews more than from anyone else!
I love Evos. Been waiting for the MR review from you guys. Great review and keep up the outstanding work!
"This car thinks about what you're trying to do..." and back when I used it for 2 seasons of autocross, it guessed wrong *a lot*.
Its happy place is a canyon road.
We aren't debating your listing of prices or grouping of cars. However, as explained in the opening... VW themselves says the Golf R competes with the STI and Evo, but the cars capabilities clearly put it in the realm of the WRX and Ralliart. So, we brought a car from each of those groups to discuss if VW's placement was correct. We're sorry that you missed the explanation in the video.
This testing group has worked for many people as a way to place R in the world. Obviously, we know it isn't going to work for everyone, but it hardly negates the discussion - especially since we explain our reasons and discuss the STI at the end.
Having said that - You are more than welcome to make your own car show and "Do it Right". We will watch it and applaud you.
Thanks for the review. I'm looking at the EVO now. Just used though. As was said, it is just too expensive at $45k. Hope to knock it down to 28ish used.
We welcome you to start your own car show and do a superior job. RUclips is an open forum, so feel free. We will watch it and applaud you.
You are correct that the Evo and WRX are not natural competitors. We hope you listened to the explanation at the beginning of the video which explains why we brought the WRX and the EVO to this comparison.
I NEED an Evo, too! I hope the next gen is just as fun. And Mitsubishi : please inject some driving fun in more of your models! Great comparo, guys...love the channel!
The stats that the EVO and STi get from that small of an engine is amazing, where Lambos have to move up to a V12 just to break 650hp (but they still can't do anything other than go fast) I want something to be an offroad beast, and still carry my family around, and the EVO has provided me with that. Both the STi and EVO are rally rooted, extraordinary works of engineering, and can show up cars that cost 3 times as much, depending on the conditions, and that's why I love them.
We encourage you to watch the opening explanation... or the closing one, for that matter. As stated many times, this is not about the Evo vs. STI, but about finding where the Golf R fits.
I think they chose the WRX because the stats of the VW match better with the WRX than it des with the STI, and they used the EVO to prove that VW's claim of it being a competitor with the EVO and STI isn't very valid
Yes but in this case the CASIO is more expensive than the Rolex. 20% more expensive, that is nuts. Even the guys on the video say it.
It's a pretty big assumption to think we don't read or watch the work of others. We have no interest in copying anyone else, but we don't live in isolation. We respect that you didn't like this comparison. There are those that agree with you, and others who did enjoy the discussion - We know that will always be the case.
We hope you'll stick around and enjoy our work. Or, conversely, stick around and tell us the things you don't like next time. We welcome the discussion.
Yeah, I agree the shape of the Evo X has aged relatively well.
They weren't comparing wrx to evo. It was more golf r. but golf r stats are closer to wrx.
That's the sad thing about Volkswagen and most of its group. Car reviewers always claim how "durable" the fit and finish is, and while it is true initially it all falls apart so quickly. Having owned an Audi A4, and gone through the large list of problems it had, I no longer have respect for VW. What's the point of car ownership if it causes headaches 50% of the time?
We hope you noticed that Todd said he didn't need those things "on an EVO". He finds the upper package on the Evo (which adds about $5k - the sunroof etc.) brings unneeded extras to a car of this type. And any smartphone can take the place of most nav systems. The guys focus on the driving fun of a car, but we do connect our phones and try out the extras in everything we review. We appreciate your comment and hope you'll watch more of what we do.
First let me say I am a bit biased because I own and drive an 04 R32. That said I think the V-dub got a raw deal in this review. The whole premise is supposed to be about which one of these cars would make the best every day driver. My cousin owns an '11 WRX, and I have driven the EVO, I haven't driven the golf R so I can only go off what I know about my own car, but as an everyday driver I think the V-dub is the best choice. Think about it, they are out here carving up some back canyon roads, and yeah I guess if thats what every day driving was like I'd probably want an EVO too, or the WRX even, but thats nothing what every day driving is. For most of us every day driving is about getting around town, running errands, going to work, and maybe hitting up some backroads here and there on the way home. If thats what I'm going to be doing most of the time, I want a car that is super comfy to drive, has nice creature comforts and a good radio (VW) and still fun and spirited. I will gladly give up a little performance to have the MUCH MUCH nicer interior, good ride, and creature comforts (OMG being from the midwest I love the heated seats) and still have a fun and spirited car to drive. Personally, I love blending into traffic and not have the stigma of having the lookit me fast n furious WRX/STI/EVO bro look. The people who I want to notice me, do, and to most of the people I don't want to notice me I'm just another golf on the road. I just feel its a much more practical car and its a lot nicer to live with. I guess thats why I personally chose an R over a subie or mitsubishi.
More practical? These aren't reliable though. Not that the Mitsubishi cars are either..
The Mr looks pretty close to a base Lancer tho. It's not gonna stand out much
We are aware of the FQ-400, but in the US the MR Touring model is the highest model available from Mitsubishi.
I can't believe the EVO doesn't have a fully adjustable steering wheel. That's nearly a deal breaker for me. Other than that. If I drove it and loved it as much as they did, I'd just look at it as a poor mans GTR or Carrera 4S and pay the $45k. Those two cars are over twice as expensive.
Picked up my 2013 Evo GSR in white two weeks ago. Ten grand less than your blue one. Love it. It's the single most awesome piece of matter I've ever owned. You are correct, you just have to drive them to understand. It's a surprisingly good daily driver, too.
@Ge0vone The evo handles slightly better than the STI because its stuffed full of gadgets, but is it worth the extra for such little gains? Plus when top gear reviewed both cars the STI was slightly faster round their track, which put a downer on the extra £££ for the evo X even more
It's hard for me to get excited about a car with an automatic gearbox.
VW had to be smoking some GOOOD herb if they thought the Golf R could hang with a Evo, or even an WRX! Also, that inline 6 in the VW is only good for another 20whp if you added intake, exhaust and tuning. The turbo 4's will get you another 70-100whp simply from an intake, exhaust and tuning! So much more potential with the turbo's, the VW would need a supercharger or turbo to make over 300hp, for sure!
If you add $800 to the Golf R, you can get about 100 extra horses out of it, and then it could compete. Honestly, I'd just get a WRX though. Or a used Sti
I'm not ashamed to say I work basically just to own an EVO. That's how much I'm addicted to it. It's like the best g/f you've had and never want to let her go.
more videos please! I've become addicted to your reviews.
Good on you guys for not loosing it on idiot commenters and actually addressing them in a polite manner even though you don't have to. Love all the videos, keep it up guys.
Love your work! Fair, entertaining, but always focused on delivering a fair review. Earned a subscriber!
If possible, I hope you guys can do an article/video on how to properly research/buy a used car, since you guys also emphasize price and affordability for "everyday" drivers.
I know a lot of viewers, including myself, would benefit :)