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Hoyo went hard with Dan Heng and Blade's designs...
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- From the obvious to the obscure, Hoyoverse goes to extreme lengths when designing every little detail about their characters and world. Here's what I've uncovered from spending way too much researching Dan Heng and Blade...
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Links
CN Renheng Artefact Design Analysis: m.weibo.cn/sta...
Ancient Chinese Bronze Artefacts en.wikipedia.o...
Good book connecting multiple things in this video: georgehbalazs....
Three-legged Toad www.taiwan-pan...
Spear of Fuchai en.wikipedia.o...
Yellow Dragon m.sohu.com/a/7...
Lotus and Mud baike.baidu.co...
Mid Autumn Festival moonfestivalbl...
Buddhist Encyclopedia www.google.com...
Gold spider lilies as Dragon Claw Flower www.nps.gov.tw...
About Red Spider Lilies www.metrofield....
Karma www.google.com...
Asipatravana (Forest of Swords) sacred-texts.c...
Evolution of Chang’e Mythology www.thepaper.c...
Evolution of Chang’e Mythology 2 baike-baidu-hk...
Wu Gang baike.baidu.co...
Heng’E and Wu Gang on the moon www.google.com...
Another Chang’e and Wu Gang www.guoxiaolu.c...
Chinese Symbolism Dictionary, see: Cinnamon Tree (pg 76) for early Wu Gang www.google.com...
Feng (meat) en.wikipedia.o...)
95 Moons of Jupiter ssd.jpl.nasa.g...
Wuxing Yin Yang www.chinaknowle...
About Sanxingdui Museum’s Bronze Tree news.cgtn.com/...
More artefacts muguayuan.com/...
Dan Heng and Bailu New Year Art weibo.com/7817...
Nasa dates moon.nasa.gov/...
Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
00:43 - Wuxing
02:29 - 95 Moons
03:09 - Taisui and Abundance
04:04 - Wuxing and Xianzhou
05:33 - Chang'e and Hou Yi
09:55 - Wu Gang
12:22 - Blade's Suns???
13:20 - Spider Lily and Lotus
14:23 - Hell, the Shackling Prison, and the 10 Lords Commission
17:48 - Autumn
19:41 - Nuwa and Fuxi
21:18 - Gun
22:17 - Light and Shadow
23:33 - Sword of Goujian and Spear of Fuchai
24:18 - The Shape of the Turtle
24:42 - Recap
25:11 - Outro
hoyo really playing 10D chess with their storytelling huh
When you have to work around censorship you might as well cram in as much symbolism into it to say "these 2 are pretty much Canon at least somewhere in the timeline"
@@Yuki_Ika7 agreed. Still its feels to me like a lot of effort and knowledge to do for the writers and designers and to uncover for Lalody's Lore which i appreciate.
@@muzehe1195 indeed, also I love the worlds, lore, characters and most of the stories of HoYo games but despise the CCP, I mean I get why HoYo has to work with them, but just think of the possibilities if there was no censorship for gay stuff in the games, like in the early Honkai Impact 3rd days
@@Yuki_Ika7 Dude early HI3 is like the gayest I’ve ever seen a Chinese game get lmao
The Jupiter - Moon conjunction thing is so wild. They really said "everything is about your OCs if you try hard enough". Inspirational
BAHAHAHA THATS SO REALLL 😭
REAL XD
I need this whispered into my ears as I sleep. Lorehunters are fricking madlads, literally one of the only few reasons why I continue playing hsr. Hoyo's symbolism never fails
we are so renhengback
Has it truly ever been Renhengover
@@Taff3ta_renhengforever
I found my people
@@ymi8238 Me too :)
Not gonna lie games get far more interesting with the lores like I love when Games give efforts in little details and lore it's soo amazing and fun to find and seeing Dan Heng and Blade be the exact opposite sides of a coin is amazing Mihoyo definitely put a lot and a lot of effort into these two like Dan Heng's whole design is representing heaven while Blade's is representing hell another thing I found interesting is how Dan Feng struggled between his dragon like personality and his sweet sweet human personality like wow must be hard for our Pookie dragon to choose between them but anyways due to my exams starting on 10th I'm not being online very much and focusing on the game lore so your videos was honestly a pleasant thing to watch after doing soo many assignments and all well hope you have a great day enjoy!!❤❤
Love your videos like always,you never fail to impress!!❤❤
Pride month is never over with those two, make them kiss Mihoyo. Global will turn a blind eye *wink wink*
I don’t play starrail but I’m invested in the lore, I have to say this video was so interesting and eye opening even for someone who comes from Chinese Culture. I greatly appreciate how deep you searched and explained the different variations of Classical Chinese stories. You definitely earned a new subscriber ❤❤❤
You should play it. It’s not just Chinese symbolism, each main area you go to has some massive cultural influences
@@danalynch118 I wish I could but sadly I don’t have enough storage
@@piemoss1043 Riiippp. That’s so sad cus it is just a rlly great game. The detail in each area is rlly rlly good
Hoyo fans do be collecting relics and artifacts irl
12:08 chang'e equates to dan heng and she lived on the moon, right? so now that it's confirmed that the shackling prison, where dan heng was exiled, is under scalegorge ("where the moon should be"), the correlation between the two is even stronger. neat!
Bro you were right........
With Blackswan recently hinting that Dan Heng is Dan Feng with amnesia… this video started making me wonder why they didn’t force reincarnation in the end and imprisoned him instead…? Like why were they unable to 🤔?
1.2 already hinted they didn't want DF's knowledge to entirely disappear especially after the heart and arcanum supposedly went missing and DF stayed silent. But groomed amnesiac might eventually remember and slip them relevant details or become entirely pliant puppet leader they control...
Did vidihara lose their memo after reincarnated and have to learn about their past life? Dan heng however still has Dan Feng memo because his reincarnation got tampered with. I think the vidihara doing that to keep Dan Feng memo then try to get the information about the Resurrection spell.
@@alria2133I’m pretty sure Dan Heng went through melting rebirth,meaning that he is still in dan feng’s body but just de aged
This video literally reignited my desire and love for archeology... how did you do that?? omg, that was really good!
That's exciting!! let me know if your reignited passion digs up any new artefacts to look at!!
just about everywhere you look in either of their stories there is a reference to the other person and I freaking love it man. Thank you for continuing to feed me Renheng content🙏🙏🙏
I absolutely adored this video, thank you so much!! historical and cultural influences in games are one of my favourite things ever to look into
Yes! been waiting for more of their lore~ Thank you so much for the update!
Im so on love with how you present the material 😭😭
Living on your videos fr
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my deepest regards to the author of the video and her friends. amazing preparation of the material for the video, because all this needs to be not only found by yourself but also analyzed
just ..wow..
Hey at least it's a lot of fun!! But yeah can definitely take a lot of time to research everything...
I never really got into the relationship between Dan(f)heng, blade and the rest of the quintet (mainly bc of how hidden everything is in the story and world exploration of the Loufu), but seeing these connections makes me appreciate their characters more!
Also I think the timing of their og banner drops and irl astronomical events is soo cool. I love when games do that even smth as simple as when Atlus dropped character trailers for the P3r main cast on full moons.
I'm not sure if you take any requests or recommendations, but I firmly believe you'd have a field day with Reverse:1999 and it's lore
anyways completely banger video as always ❤ thank you for saving hoyo community
Prove that renheng is canon whitout telling me renheng is canon:
Hoyo
Anyway awesome as always ❤
OH, OH, I wanted to share another aspect (I am on TWT if you wanna hear more under renfengyuri) but from a gnostic view, they also share a basis to Babalon and Chaos and Cybele and Aticus in Greece (theres way more but I don't want to ramble here)
I'm so intrigued!!
@@LalodysLore I can tell you everything, me and my friends have been analyzing this and we really wanted to share this with you!!
Absolutely eating this up
omg hi probably jade
Wassup bro :)
@@mikagediary hi🙇♂️
@@probablyjade i love your animations so much
This a banger of a video, excellent work!
I am always around for RenHeng crumbs and this serve well 0w0 So many more connections that I don't even know off! What I am mostly surprised of is Luna is the 95th in the Imbibitor Lunae line 0m0 But I have a question... You know how whenever the Vidyadhara goes through their cycle of rebirth, they would be revert into their pearl-like egg... Is there ever a confirmation of how long it takes for them to hatch and is there a difference in duration between a normal Vidyadhara and the High Elder?
But this video is amazing nonetheless!!
Oh my god youre amazing pls dont explode
these videos are so well done! thank you for makin this! love learning more about my lil blorbos
I've read a different version of Hou'yi and Chang'e. First of all the suns were also the sons - princes - of Heavenly Emperor. Hou'yi after getting the task of stopping the suns at first tries to tell them to stop burning the earth but the princes just laugh at him. Then Hou'yi shoots them down one by one until only one is left. The Emperor is mad for the loss of his sons so he exiles Hou'yi and his wife to earth as mortals. Time passes and eventually Hou'yi is granted the elixir - I think it was in the form of a peach - half of it would make him immortal. Hou'yi plans on sharing the elixir with Chang'e so they would both would become immortal - and knowing of cultivation now, I guess try to work to ascend again - but one day when Hou'yi is out hunting, Chang'e takes the full elixir, intent on becoming a goddess. She didn't like living on earth so why should she doom herself to eternity upon it. She flies to the moon, with Hou'yi chasing after her but never reaching. The Heavenly Emperor imprisons her to remain on the moon and thus she is still there to this day, with only rabbits as her companions. And that's how the Rabbit Goddess came to be.
That's one of the many variations 🙂
LET'S GOOOO ❤
I'll mark this one to watch later but I just wanna say the title made me giggle a lil bit 🤭
This was... so insightful. You and your friends do God's work when it comes to Dan Heng and Blade's connections.
These two litterally have an hate-love relaptionship whit a tragic lore in a few words and then unreable narrators out of nowhere try to prove that Baiheng is the beloved...
Goddamn i don't if the most sad part is because of their relaptionship or those son of fun that say that baiheng x blade is canon i i am just waiting the day they will in someway confirm it in the actuall lore because apparently for them an 40 minutes video plus 25 which is litterally an hour explaing they relaptionship saying that in a few words they are canon but the hoyo cannot confirm it because if they do their game would been shutted down, they simply don't believe it
Man this is literraly the only way they can manage to say that they are canon unless they start on using the excuse
Oh well and where is it said oh it isn't
Me of course it isn't if they do that their game would been shutted dow-!
Anyway thanks for the explanation Awesome as always❤
friend way back mentioned that in jp ren is written similar way to lotus... jp though not cn but fitting coincidence 😅
wonderful research :)
They're cannon your honour
I’d like to say that the dragon wasn’t part of the arbor, but a part of the seal
There was a dragon sealed in the tree, but supposedly the dragon root took that shape as a result of High Elder seals suppressing the Arbor. Either they're lying about the purpose of the seal (to stop the Arbor) or the magic seals started turning the Arbor into a dragon which... Brings up a whole new batch of questions...
@@LalodysLore True. The whole Xianzhou is a mess /lh. I’m glad we’re returning either way tbh. Seems like we’re not only gonna get some answers on some of this stuff but also tingyun too. Was wondering why they’d leave some of the things so blatantly open like they did. Like ik most people were weirded out when they didn’t rlly give much closure to what they’d ended up doing with the stellaron or what really happened to tingyun, but ig now we know. Also Blade and Dan Heng just actually need to get their shit together holy hell
@@danalynch118 new area happens in the shackling prison. and the new ship is lotus shaped
@@LalodysLore you predicted the next area right. there's a hell like/prison place down the structure of the dragon waterscape. 2.5 , 2.6
Eyy, Very nice video
when i first started playing hsr i was still at school and wasnt even thinking abt majoring in chinese. and obviously i knew nothing abt chinese mythology 😭😭 but i have successfully enrolled in uni and yeah im majorinh... in chinese :D. i still dont know much tho some things i alr knew BUT i never thought they're all connected w each other. 感谢你 🙏
Looking through the chapter names and one of them is just "Autumn"
I was feeling creative what can I say 🤣
I cant believe these ancient cultures are ripping off hoyo like this. Just let them do their story without all these crazy spin offs smh
I actually think the "dark fish story" is about Dan Heng because he commit one of the forbidden crimes and because he stole immortality and now went through a incomplete reincarnation as punishment. (pls tell me if I'm wrong)
But it could also be Blade it fits both of them.
ngl, this video is very interesting and love the in depth analysis.
Listening to the talk about wuxing and xianzhou kinda gave me a thought down below
EDIT: SPOILERS, OPEN AT OWN RISK FOR OTHER COMMENT READERS
For the mention of Bailu holding the golden dragon, I'd say that the symbolism in a way make sense to a lot of degrees for the cloud quintet. Given that the golden dragon is the balanced force of yin and yang, we can kind of interpret it as the one keeping balance of the other four. Having that the story quests do hint that Bailu is Baiheng technically, having been reborn through law breaking means, it also was noted that the cloud quintet pretty much fell apart when Baiheng passed, like in a way a loss of balance between the four of them once the foxian passed. Which would in a way be linked to the golden dragon symbolism of a balanced force of yin yang.
Just random thoughts that can to mind when listening to the segment
Bailu isn't BH. Bailu is bloomborn Scion created by Preceptors. You should go back to Dan Shu death place and pick up the glittering book on the ground. JL also stated in her story that she was affected by Shuhu during the Sedition and did not think of BH until Shuhu affected her. Bhverse and JL CQ are red herring. DF stated in his story that he used blood of ancestor, not blood of foxian. You can also check the Bloomborn Scion video of Lalo.
They care so much about designs when theyre chinese but when its any other culture its vulture time, appropriation ahoy
Honestly I think they put in this level of effort for all of the designs. There's always another rabbit hole to go down with these designs haha
Am I the first to comment!😯
Yes!
The next 2 patches may shed even more light on their relationship; maybe you should do a video then as well!
Just completed watching your video..never knew that many historical references were there! The Fuxi one as well, as you said, quite literally screams blade. And Changhe and Wu Gang both being exiles is so similar to blade and Dan heng as well...quite intriguing! Love your content btw!
YES NEW VIDEO ABOUT THEMMM
17:48 - ’hey look! They match…’ 🥲
These connections were insaneee you’re amazing for putting all this together and understanding all of this.