THE BEST Party Comp on Day 1 for Dragon’s Dogma 2
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Dragon's Dogma 2 is coming out this month and choosing the best vocation for yourself as well as for your pawns is going to be a big part of the gameplay. In this video, THE BEST Party Comp on Day 1 for Dragon’s Dogma 2, we go over the best party composition of you and your pawns and some combinations.
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0:00 Intro & TL;DW
1:57 Mage is Required
4:36 Sorcerer
6:18 Thief & Mystic Spearhand
9:14 Fighter & Warrior
12:37 Archer & Magick Archer
14:49 The Ideal Party Comp
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Hey y’all, if you didnt play the first game I recommend just playing around with team comps on your own. Don’t try to hyper optimize or “meta” this game. You will be taking away from your own fun. It’s not going to be brutally difficult, and you will be fine playing anyway you want. If you did play the first game, then you probably already understand what makes a good team setup
Exactly I’ve never played Dogma but I’ve been seeing a lot tubers talk about what’s the best “Team” for the game smh just do what you want it’s A RPG so create your own backstory for your characters and pawns and immerse your self in the game and have fun 🤩
100% my dude!! Which is what I open up with in this video. Finding the meta for everything is boring because you just end up playing SOMEONE ELSE'S game. Play how you want, fuck the rest. The only concrete tip I recommend is play with a mage, the rest is so situational and dependent on the type of party you want or what have you!
I mean, nobody ever suggests "YO, PICK 2 SORCERERS", but damned if fast casting Grand Bolide wasn't fun as hell.
@@westenevI used two sorcerers many times in DD1, they aren't the best DPS, but they could take enemies out of the fight so my assassin arisen (who was the best dps) could do his job in peace.
This guy did such good Warhammer content I built a pc, bought all 3 games, and never play them. 10/10 would recommend a sub
Hahahaha I also don't play them any more!
Nice to see someone point out that the advanced classes are not just stronger versions of the starter classes, they are basically pure DPS focused so depending on how you play the game you might want to tank or heal and not go so heavy in that direction.
I definitely thought that to begin with so it's an easy trap to fall into, but like you said, it's just focusing on MORE of ONE thing!
Once again, a quick vid front-loaded with info. Thanks again, bruv. I didn't play the first but will play this, so this kind of video is helpful!
My main is most likely going Thief > Mystic Spearhand (89% sure)
My main pawn will likely stay a Mage for healing/versatility.
The others will likely be an Archer and a Warrior.
This is my likely setup as well
Love your content 💯
Ps: I feel like a little kid before Christmas waiting for this game
There was a time when there was a 4th member of the Big Boys Club, in addition to Tank, Healer and DPS. That was Crowd Control (or CC.) You don't see that as often in games anymore, even MMO's where they really shone. That's what has me intrigued about the Trickster, it's the closest thing we have seen to a support/CC class in a modern game in quite a while.
That said, my initial party makeup will probably be the following: my character will likely go from Archer to Magic Archer, as I enjoy plinking away at a distance. Main Pawn is an absolute unit of a Beastren, who is my "walking wall" of a Tank. I'll hire a Mage for heals, and another DPS (looking hard at Thief.) That should at least get me through to where I can locate my MA Meister and start down that path. I might swap to Warrior for my Main Pawn in the hope that he can still hold his own and keep aggro up front.
Down the line, yes...I would like to try out the Trickster just to see if it's viable, but I'll have to rethink my whole team makeup at that point, so stay tuned.
the good ole days of having an Enchanter or Bard in your EQ party ;)
@@italianspartacus Oooh, I loved my 'Chanter! I also mained a Bard in Dark Age of Camelot and a Loremaster in LotRO.
I was an armsman in DAoC! But I came back and played Skald AND thane. So fucking fun
@@italianspartacus I'm an unrepentant alt-holic, and so likely at least tried all the classes from all three realms at one time or another.
Arisen - Thief/Mystic Spear
Main Pawn - Sorcerer
Pawn #2 - Mage
Pawn #3 - Warrior
DPS Comp
Got me through all my playthroughs of DD1.
Same as mine
Great information as always on your videos
Glad you liked it bro!!
My go to is fighter pawn from the rift making sure they’re set up as a tank with provocation and shield summon, my main pawn is a sorcerer with meteor equipped (u get it from finishing spellbound quest, GET IT if you don’t have it!!), mage from the rift making sure they have mostly healing and buffing abilities set up when picking one out, and then I usually play as mystic spear putting the invincibility bubble on everybody as much as I can and sapping stamina as soon as I run out or sometimes I play as magic archer just for fun and extra healing/revival. I can really be about any vocation with that setup and it’s easy mode as long as everybody’s stats look good (good weapons and armor equipped. ALWAYS compare pawn’s stats and skills equipped when picking one out). If they don’t have fighters set up like tanks and mages set up like white mage/healer/buffers, they’re playing the game wrong. If someone managed to transfer the provocation augment to a warrior, they can make awesome tanks as well, but unfortunately they don’t have shield summons or whatever the advanced form of shield summons is called…
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i see all this guide vids poping up and i dont care then i see ItalianSpartacus has one and i look in the moment i see it, because i know had a good grasp on past games. + i know he doesnt want to waste my time to feed the algo because he does a summary in the beging of every vid. so thumbs up and i dont have even see the vid yet
aw man thank you dude!! very kind of you!
Good vid.
FYI, the labels for the sections on "Archer and Magic Archer" and "Fighter and Warrior" are back to front as while the first of the two is labelled "Archer/MA" it is in fact the section that discusses the "Fighter/W" and the "Archer/MA" comes after that.
Cheers
UGHHH I know I'm so angry. I swapped the actual chapters, but the lower thirds can't be changed unfortunately :(
@@italianspartacusYT clearly needs to get their shit together if they don't allow you to edit something as simple as timestamps etc as and when you wish.
That's beyond ridiculous.
Oh well, you can use it to test how closely people pay attention or use the segments to jump ahead, LOL.
The content is your usual high standard, and that's really all that matters.
Cheers!
I've already created my Mage main character and an Archer as my first pawn. Really looking forward to playing the game. :D
While damage mitigation is certainly a major selling point for fighter and warrior, I would argue that the ability to taunt enemies to group them up and allow your casters to cast with impunity is a much more valuable utility. Great insight, though
I was just going to go fighter, but now I'm thinking about the Trickster - it looks like a very interesting class.
I'm so intrigued by it!!
My main will be a frail human mage named Raistlin, accompanied by his brother the fighter, Caramon. Will be a blast.
I will probably go with me Fighter and my pawn Frieren :) Mage , Archer and Warrior
That worked well for me in DD1 , but I will try different compositions
I will definitely do multiple playthroughs
Fighter looks so damn fun
Mage healer, fighter tank, archer, thief. Classic combo and works the best.
I'm planing on a Fighter/warrior (me) and a mage, the same as I usually started in DD 1 and let's me chose whatever I feel like for the other 2 pawns.
Will be running:
Magick archer (me)/Magic spinny spear boi
melee DPS, so warrior
Mage
Sorc/Archer depending on if you can run sorc pawn. only need one melee IMO, the rest you want to be avoiding damage instead of tanking it. Warrior seems to be able to give and take damage, so whilst not pure tank, its enough.
I originally wanted to start as fighter and have my main pawn be mage, BUT the more I realize how important Mage is early game and how I want to make sure that vocation is pumping at max efficiency, I think I’m going to swap and be mage with my main pawn as fighter. Controlling the heals (topping off when not in combat), supporting dps, and boosting fighter pawn with weapon enchants to exploit enemy weaknesses (will help the fighter pawn dps) sounds like something I could manage MUCH better than AI could. Leave the simple shield taunt mechanics to the pawn AI. For hired pawns I’m thinking Sorc as 3rd for big dps that I can help cast faster as mage and then an archer as the 4th. Let the AI handle all the targeting and big ranged DPS. Also seems like in every game I’ve played, range DPS always tends to advantage in most scenarios, especially when enemies are mobile or big. Why climb up something when you can just shoot it down from where you stand?
I started this way for DD1 but quickly felt like I wasn't the main character. Switched to Strider and felt much more involved. Personally
I might be going Magick archer for this exact reason
@@brianlurcott5583 I can’t remember what I started as in DD1 but I do remember playing a LOT as Mystic Knight. I do enjoy playing a Necromancer in as many games as I can so was thinking I could maintain that “Main Character” feel if I think of me being Mage as being the Necromancer that controls my main pawn “skeleton warrior”. Then maybe as game goes on and maybe healing is less demanding I can switch to Warfarer and heal/buff as mage staff when needed but be more of a “Death Knight” when I buff myself and get out the Great Sword.
Hey we wound up going the same route, my MC is going to be either a Magic Archer or Mystic Spearhand and the Mage will be the main pawn healer. I might take a second mage to go sorcerer and the other focus on heals. And then i have to decide between Warrior, Fighter and Thief
AYYY! Great minds bro!
I like to be nimble and quick as well as have high DPS. I kind of wanted to play as a thief cause it looks fun. Same with the archer. I'm also considering a warrior type just to get in the action up close. We'll see.
I feel if you're going to end up playing mystic spearhand, its worth leveling thief and mage, thief gives a physical damage buff augment and mage gives a magic dmg buff augment, both damage type buffs for the mystic spear hand.
Its fun running a mage and having a bunch of fighters and archers
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I think others have said it but the key is to have fun with the game - you want to try running 4 mages or 4 fighters or whatever then go for it.
You might be making it harder on yourself but if you’re having a blast then that’s what matters.
Im going fighter ( and changing to warrior eventually. ) main pawn mage then have fighter/mage for backup pawns or have fighter/archer if 2 mages end up being lack luster backline dps
I am going for thief. Main pawn Fighter/Tank. Pawn #3 Mage and Pawn #4 Sorcerer
Yo man I'm a thief going into magic archer once I can - should I switch my pawn from fighter to Warrior and then just grab an archer and healer mage?
thanks for the videos as always, been subbed to you since pretty much the beginning of your channel
honestly, i'd just swap them around as you see fit and let the mget some levels in a vocation. You really can't go wrong. Warrior has an increased Health augment that will be crucial and Fighter has an increased threat generation augment - so leveling both ot like... lvl 3 would be a good idea for those passives!
@@italianspartacus Nice! I'm starting to realize that the game is pretty forgiving on party compositions! I'm still really curious on what the true meta would be for something like.a magic archer, etc.
Mage healing is nice, but curatives exist. Their biggest contribution is often the elemental weapon enchantments they can dish out. Being able to control which buffs your mage is casting is one of the biggest reasons I think having your mage be either your Arisen or main pawn makes a lot of sense. Fighting skeletons, bring fire. Armored enemies, bring lightning, etc. If you only hire mage pawns you'll need to fully replace them to get a mage with different abilities and spells.
In DD I would usually go Theif (me), Warrior, And 2 Mages users. One with more healing and one for more offenisve/AOE stuff. But it all depends on what you find, pawn-wise.
How'd you like Thief!?
In DD1 Warrior pawns sometime had a hard time actually applying their damage, while a Fighter pawn spamming Dragon's Maw would just melt everything.
Fighters pawns would also have much better survivability from my experience
NGL, a distraction tank arisen sounds really fun with a short character who can run between cyclops and ogre legs, and who recovers quickly after short sprints and single big hits. We'll see how many mechanics fall apart for the warrior class when playing a light character with low carry capacy and suboptimal armor for trading tho. My squad of pawns definitely will be whatever enables _that_ playstyle in the end
Trickster seems liek it's amazing dude
@@italianspartacus Short-king trickster, you're saying? 👀
I’m thinking about going Warfarer when I can, then building a well rounded party with my pawns so I can fill different gaps depending on the encounter
Warfarer looks SO FUCKING SICK I HATE IT! I CAN'T DECIDE!
I'm still not sure what class to start off with in Dragon's Dogma 2 since I eventually want to play a Mystic Spear Hand but we don't know enough on how to become that class yet. I think maybe start with a Theif hoping the SpearHand can wear similar armor. My pawn will maybe a healer.
If the archer class is a mix of ranger and strider from DG1, then that’s my main class. If not I will be on magic archer. My pawn will be a mage, build her up to be a support for me and my friends playthrough. Must have , early game especially
From what I have used since day one of DD1, a great combo is a Warrior, mage, sorcerer and-
Of course, *mystic knight* 😵💫 (I’ll never not be upset that you can’t be one in DD2…)
Warrior for the main pawn, always be sure to train your pawn AS a warrior so they aren’t just spamming one ability over and over. I should also advise that you not use single-target brutal damage skills for your pawn! Makes them utterly useless!
A mage in the party, of course, since anodyne is a MUST! Coupled with quick casts and at least *one* weapon enchant.
Sorcerer for those bigger, slower casts that can do big damage against monsters much more quickly than base damage with blades. For the endgame Arisen, you know full well that *Voidspell* is needed if you’re not one for carrying a butt ton of curatives 💀
Guess I’ll have to switch to fighter from now on, since it’s a blend of MK and fighter now 😩
I wish we still had Mystic Knight!
I think the best combo would be 2 fighters and 2 mages or 3 mages and 1 fighter.
im going wayfarer as soon as possible for those juicy douple cast spells
Because everyone is going to want a healer, there will probably be a ton of mages available in the nexus right? So may not need to have one as your MC/primary pawn if you know they'll be readily available
I like warrior because you get to be IN THERE. You see a giant ogre or dragon and you run RIGHT at it, parry its attack, barge, uppcut slice to knock it down. And then charge a huge blow while it’s down.
You ARE the boss as warrior.
I'm leaning toward playing as thief and then mystic spearhand.
The first game we pretty easy even on hard. I HIGHLY recommend for your first playthrough just going off vibes.
I still played the first dragons dogma every now and then up until this year. And I wasn't even crazy about it, so odds are you will come back to this game eventually. Don't ruin the first run by overthinking!
100% agree dude!!
@@italianspartacusgreat video man! Appreciate the effort you've went through to keep us informed even though you don't have a review copy. Just watching the way the different classes played gave me an idea of what I'm gonna run later tonight!
My pleasure dude!! Thank you so much for watching!!
@@italianspartacus of course man! Once you get some time with the game I'd love to see a video about what vocations you think the pawns do best in!
Thr classic holy trinity is back!
You're my holy trinity bro!
Can you and your pawn go back to previous vocation or once you changed you cannot?
The best party comp on day 1 is the one you have the most fun with.
Hell yeha dude!
At this point I’m kinda torn whether I’m gonna start mage or thief myself. I haven’t played DD1, but I do know I don’t want to start with a fighter.
I'm going to try to play this game with no mage at all in my party. Good luck to me !
You'll be fine :)
Is the combat fluid this time? I found the first game to feel quite janky. The game play looks fantastic, does anyone know how it plays?
Starting out as Thief with Archer Pawn.
From forum poll about main pawn, I see a high number of people say Mage or Fighter Main pawn.
So Archer Pawn for me, As i hope it be easy to rent him out and start getting crystal.
I am going to hire a Fighter & Mage early game.
My end goal is Warfarer, And use a Magic spear for Spearhand skill, Magic bow for Magic Bow skill, And not sure for the 3 weapon for last vocations skill to able to use.
Dont care about Warfarer do a bit less damage, I love the idea of 3 different vocations skill i can change between in fights.
Main pawn mid to endgame is going to be Mage or Sorcerer.
If the game become like first one.
Then mid to endgame my party going to be 1 mage and 2 Sorcerer.
Or 1 Mage, 1 Sorcerer, 1 Archer.
But my plan can change if i need something else.
kindly.
Thief into spearhand and pawn will be a mage. Simple, but effective
I love it!!
I never played the first one. Very sure I'll start as a Thief. Then switch to a Spearhand. I'll have a mage on my team in the beginning. Then probably change it. Then hire two Sorcerers😅😊
I might just sick with the Thief honestly. I can't decide 😅
I was under the impression that pawns can't do an advanced vocation. Can your main pawn? Because a few times you mention a warrior on your team
Yup! They can indeed :) Just not HYBRID vocations!
So, if I’m a sorcerer, then switch to warrior, I’m not going to mess up my magic stat? That’s how it was in the first game.
I’m going for Trickster, Warrior, Thief, and Mage
The unsavory bunch, I like it!
What leads you to believe that the arcane archer can rez but mage can't? That seems completely insane to me if the 1 class that has the whole role of support being unable to rez.
Probably because its only been mentioned that Arcane Archer can. And mage has a lot of other types of support. But hey, maybe they do have a revive. Which would make them the only actually mandatory pawn. Which i feel they dont want to make any pawn mandatory. Because you dont need need support really.
Some of the people that did the hands on showed arcane archer having it - we didn't see it on Mage :(
I am going with nothing but healers.
SUCK THIS HEALTH, DRAGON!
"The wrong way to use healing magic!"
I appreciate you
@@italianspartacus Its like the end of the first Dr Strange. Eventually the monster will realize its been trapped in a neverending stalemate.
Idk the right terms but does it play like elder scroll like I control the character or is it like u tell it what to do n it does it
Its nothing like Elder Scrolls.
@rumpocalypse I mean how u play as the character if I press square it will swing as many times as I press it or is it like final fantasy online
When you introduce fighter and warrior the title on the bottom says archer
FUCK... Thanks for catching that man. My apologies for the mess up. It's a rare mess up that squeezes through editing 😩
I was alway more a fast/dodge than a slow/block kind of guy, even in soulslikes (Bloodborne ftw!). but I just can't see the thief as the most effective class in this game.
I’m 100% playing trickster. The idea of a support class in a single player game is too interesting to not at least try. I only hope that it’s better than JUST tricking people off of ledges and I hope it can heal so I don’t feel the need to bring a mage over a sorc.
2 days left lets goooooo
We almost here!
If you are in the USA and play on pc tomorrow would be able to play.
@@briangrant9942 1 more day left let’s goooo
:D@@casualgames1238
My main is going a mage and my pawn a fighter ;)
Nice switcheroo ;)
What is the Arcane Trickster
I wish they didn't cut/replace so many classes. I also wish my pawn could be the magick archer.
Me too!!
My main character is archer and main pawn a mage.
your timeline stamps for fighter and archer category are switched
I fixed it! But the fuckin lower thirds won't change unfortunately :(
Main is thief pawn is archer
Mines the opposite!! Love it
The only correct answer is 4 sorcerers for maximum spell syncing mayhem
Waiting for the patch to fix performance or a sale. No way paying 70 bucks for 20-35 frames in 2024
4 archers
Seems like 99% are making their main pawn a healer, so I should not make mine a healer if I want it to actually be hired
I feel it's kind of a misundersranding personally. Mages have support skills, but unless they were changed more than i realized, theyre still going to be slinging fireballs and lightning.
In others news, I love playing casters, so our fighter pawns might be a bit more niche until people get more time to learn the game.
I'm going Thief personally, I'll have ANOTHER pawn be the healer!
Here is a bit of a note about the warrior.
It's kind of similar to the barbarian class in Baldur's Gate 3. They use heavy weapons, hit really hard, and they can actually swing through enemy attacks. Warriors are very beastly in a fight, but ultimately it's not mandatory to have one around.
I'll be running an Archer, Mage, Fighter/Warrior, and sorcerer at first. This mirrors my party in Dragon's Dogma right now.
3 thieves and one mage for healing lmao
4 warriors and unga bunga the game.
The worst part of the save system and it's a big issue huge.if you make a lot of progress with quick save and you die but you accidentally load the regular save you can not then reload ur last quick save.this can cause you to lose hours of grind and it's absolutely soul destroying.its really quite horrible.
i hate the current culture there is around videogames and optimizing, and going meta, and watching a video called "THE BEST Party Comp on Day 1 for Dragon’s Dogma 2" to know what to run in the game instead of just like
playing it
Which is what I say in the video :) my channel is geared towards trying dismantle that bullshit play by the meta style of gameplay. I unfortunately though have to play a toxic game with RUclips algorithms that require me to use certain unsavory tactics to get views because the person above and below my video has way worse hyperbole. I combat this by telling you the entire gist of the video in thr first two minutes. In this video, I outright tell you not to watch if the game has been out, and Secondly, I encourage you to play the party YOU want because that's how you'll enjoy the game the most. I understand where you're coming from but this is my full time job and I live within a toxic system that operates under hyperbole and half truths, this is how I navigate it
Since were sharing party comps. Mine will be
Mage(me), Warrior, Thief, Thief.
But if thiefs dont actually steal as much as i assume from what ive heard.
Sorcerer, Fighter/Warrior, Archer, Mage.
Literally no interest in thieves unless they can help me make some easy money or extra mats. And more money and mats is far more important than my two backup pawns in the early game. For me. Not for you guys. You do what you want.
Healers won't matter on the long run
I'm going to do tank healer 2 dps so fighter mage rogue ranger ima tank and then later on I'll switch out the rogue for a sorcerer it's how I played the first one plus two magic users cast spells faster when together. I love being the tank I've never been a dps I always fill a support roll