The P12 and twinsteer are my go-to haulers in the game. One of the big advantages with the P12 is the ability to carry medium logs while pulling a medium log trailer. The Twinsteer with AWD and diff lock becomes an absolute beast and I feel like this video didn't do it justice
What are you talking about?? I used Twinsteer quite regurarly and I don't know any other vehicle that is more unstable than Twinsteer. A slight wind and I'm over.
AWD on the twinsteer was the biggest update for that truck. Only way they could make that truck better is adding wider tire options so it’s not so tippy. Or adjust the center of gravity on it to be lower or something because having just concrete slabs and nearly tipping when turning off-road and going slow is insanely annoying.
Agreed. The Twinsteer is one of my favorite trucks, and with the all wheel drive update, it's a beast. Also, the other trucks have been updated as well.
@@nepisneps I know right, some of the other trucks are really lackluster in terms of horn sound. The Azovs and Kolobs sound more like car or pickup horns.
The P12 is my go to when i need a crane or a service body. The Caterpillar is when i cant rescue a vehicle with any other in my fleet. I use the Western Star when i dont want to find, buy, or pull a trailer. I just started using the more modern looking Derry Longhorn (forget the model number), but it leaves some to be desired. The P16 i used once and i feel like its more limited in the spaces it seems to be able to fit. The other Derry Longhorn (the one recovered from the river over the hill) i sold right after i tried it. It didnt seem to do very well and it is ugly lookin to me.
I feel like the most useful one is the mud race as some roads have very annoying mud area (like white valley or even north port). Even scout vehicles struggle desperately in these areas (except tatarin which is crazily good in mud). BTW, 4520 also has very good turning radius. However US trucks cannot carry cargos directly (My twinsteer has no AWD upgrade so it is almost useless in mud). Look at azov 73210, you can even throw a loading crane to it. Thanks to powerful engine and big tyres, they perform very well in deep mud when hauling Ramped flatbed trailer, really love them.
wonder how this would look like now with all the new engines and active suspension (specifically for the derry, it improves the dead axle problem by a whole lot by keeping it lifted by default and giving you the option to lower it) ) and also the new trucks. That said, I really like the Derry 3I94. Again, the axle isn't as much of an issue anymore (though i still have to be very mindful of my lines) and it's nice and consistent through mud and water, even if it's not the quickest.
The 4520 is also a lot better with its new engine now. Actually has enough power to haul itself and large loads up some decent slopes, paired with probably the best turning circle of the heavy class I think it's probably one of the best heavies for those massive hauls, though it still does lack utility.
With heavier penalties on the dnf (recovering should have a heavy penalty) and restructuring the fuel usage to go off of litres per minute rather than minutes per tank (hard mode you use as little fuel as you can). Here are the standings. P-12 68 DH4 48 CAT 38 DH3 30 P16 20 WS 2
Wonder if they changed it later in the development in the game, same as the ank mk38 it is seen hauling a heavy fuel semi trailer even though it can’t due to it having only a sideboard bed.
The Derry 4520 has the turning circle and narrow profile of like a scout vehicle. This allows it access to several road that no other heavy duty truck can reliably use.
yeah, whenever I finish a delivery with it that opens a new map, I usually keep the Derry around to scout it for a bit unti it wither runs out of fuel or it get it stuck (which isn't all that easy, even with the chained tires it powers through a lot of stufff). The biggest drawback I think is that it's pretty underwpowered which, ironically, makes it not very good for hauling. The other derry feels a bit more consistent in that regard and the dead axle is kind of a bummer but it's easy to compensate by being more mindful of your routes. (and avoiding large rocks). It's actually kind of been fixed by the active suspension that lets you lift a bit more than before the updates.
It’s deceiving because the p16 has the power and grip you want to tow things. If you base it solely on getting where you need to go quickly with a ton of weight behind you the p16 is what you want
Exactly. That's why for all the mega trailer contracts and ultra large loads I always use the p16 or the p12. The speed is arbitrary when the goal is just getting there. And usually even though slower thanks to that monsterous low end gearing they wind up getting there faster then the others for that exact reason. I'm glad that this game introduced me to pacific trucks. They are awesome! Plus I'm really excited to try out the new p512, especially once they unlock the awd to it as it is in the code. Probably in phase 4 they will add it's awd. But from what I've seen the 512 is pretty good with just the diff, it is pacific after all. Not to mention the p16 is getting it's very own custom log trailer when phase 3 drops. I've been wanting to use it for it's intended purpose for a very long time coming!
Pacific trucks are based out of Vancouver BC, Canada. Later partnered with International Harvester trucks, and were bought put from there. They still make parts for these old beasts
Mud tyres are what you need for snow, chains are for ice. The reason the p12 and the Derrys performed poorly is because you can't fit chains to the others.
after all this and you put real gameplay in it. Like taking a trailer from the garage. go get that and back to garage. i P16 will get the job done. who needs speed anyways with the glitchy things in snowrunner. :) Good video man
I love the derry 4520 it's so easy to drive and has an awesome horn but its power is just awful it struggles to pull itself up inclines sometimes and for a vehicle that's only addons are the saddles a B+ at best is terrible
I agree, I think that both derrys are lacking. Taking the 4520 to a v12 and the other one to a v16 could make them amazing. They are after all supposed to haul tanks.
@@redhunter68 Not true specs but overpowered specs. Game has torque too low but modder made it way too high now it's 385000 torque when most powerful in game truck in game had 265000 I think. Its still needs some tweaking. For example make from 190000 torque value to 225000 so it still somewhat realistic for dd12 engine. I would agree to keep same torque values for cat c 18 800hp engine but not detroit diesel engine that makes nearly half torque that c18 can make IRL.
P16 all the way, I do every heavy haul contract with it and now with the new trailer from imandra I use it for everything, best truck in game in my opinion, AND that horn tho ;D
i use the 4520 for all my heavy haulage i was shocked at how piss poor it was in this video i know its underpowered for the size of its engine it really dose need more power but it was outclassed by its 6x8 (3194) other half i used that once and it sucked what happened did they update it i thought that would DNF all tests
I beleive they should have implemented the lifting poles on the 6900 twin steer. Being an bed truck it should be able too load things larger and longer then its bed as well, it really should have 6 or 8 slots of cargo space in my opinion.
The Derry Longhorn was not shown correctly. There were multiple circumstances were you should have had the middle wheel suspension lowered so it didn’t high center. One of the biggest things with the longhorn is knowing when to adjust suspension so you don’t get stuck.
The Longhorn didn’t always have the ability to raise the drop axle. I don’t remember offhand when that ability was added, but this video more than likely was made before it was possible.
not very fair to the twinsteer most are way shorter than it so it's only able to do most with awd with the length I've never had a problem with mine besides tipping when I'm not focused and running out of fuel on long drive
It’s a fair comparison. The chain-less trucks can’t deal with ice, and that’s a good way to show it- and this is coming from someone that loves using the P-16.
So I obviously did something wrong with the p12. I used it to haul long logs and medium logs in Island Lake and Drummond island. It was an absolute joke to say the least. The biggest POS I've ever driven in this game. Kept getting stuck everywhere, had to detach trailer multiple times. Even had to bring another truck to help pull it out, multiple times. But it dominated most of these tests? Something's not right ..
What is the old CAT? I got it soon and I don't know the difference. If it had a diff lock back then, this test automatically becomes invalid to me. I almost found myself shouting "Turn the damn diff lock on!!!" more than once
Yup, because the Twinsteer has chain tires and snow is treated as mud. Since this was before the Twinsteer AWD Addon, it performs poorly in mud. A rematch now would make things a very different story.
@@a-a-rondavis9438 But if it was the other way around, the Americans would be pounding their chests "those are American, not Canadian!" I can hear it already.
Only one test with actual hauling, the ice test where the Cat and the P16 are stuck with their excellent mud tyres. Overall completely useless video. We should see heavy hauling, on dirt, on mud, on road, in deep mud, on snow, on ice, on high slope, on rocky terrain/stability/sturdiness
The P12 and twinsteer are my go-to haulers in the game. One of the big advantages with the P12 is the ability to carry medium logs while pulling a medium log trailer. The Twinsteer with AWD and diff lock becomes an absolute beast and I feel like this video didn't do it justice
Upgraded twinsteer is a monster slap in High range and just plow through mud. I found the p12 little underpowered for me
What are you talking about?? I used Twinsteer quite regurarly and I don't know any other vehicle that is more unstable than Twinsteer. A slight wind and I'm over.
You need to do it again with the AWD on the TwinSteer 6900.
I’m thinking the same it’s not far
AWD on the twinsteer was the biggest update for that truck. Only way they could make that truck better is adding wider tire options so it’s not so tippy. Or adjust the center of gravity on it to be lower or something because having just concrete slabs and nearly tipping when turning off-road and going slow is insanely annoying.
@@yugiboy815 that truck is op is it is now it just needs to take a nap sometimes in the mud is all
Agreed. The Twinsteer is one of my favorite trucks, and with the all wheel drive update, it's a beast. Also, the other trucks have been updated as well.
and suspension test with diff lock
Fun fact, the p16 has the best tires in the game with a mud rating of 3.0 when most have 2.0-2.5
Alaska can be hard though. Pulling the oil rig salvage trailer up the mountain roads in Mountain River is an exercise in quick winching :)
And has the best horn to
@@nepisneps I know right, some of the other trucks are really lackluster in terms of horn sound. The Azovs and Kolobs sound more like car or pickup horns.
Also the TUZ-420 Tatarin has a tire grip value of 8 for mud
Where do you guys find these numeric stats?
1:32 no one addressing the fact that a truck dies on the left of the screen.
Yer crack up wondering what happened on the left side😂
Just a little suspension damage, nothing to see here lol
Well looks like the underdog came on top. Nice work P12.
The P12 and P16 are 2 amazingly made Canadian Trucks, the P16 is the one I use most of all
After the 8.0 update, the Western Star 6900 will kill everyone.
Grande Tartarie Not rly
@@niek12o23 but it will be not on the tail , that’s for sure
How so
It gets ( Now has) Awd
@@niek12o23 It had awd before this update
Why not use the diff lock on the CAT?
The P12 is my go to when i need a crane or a service body. The Caterpillar is when i cant rescue a vehicle with any other in my fleet. I use the Western Star when i dont want to find, buy, or pull a trailer. I just started using the more modern looking Derry Longhorn (forget the model number), but it leaves some to be desired. The P16 i used once and i feel like its more limited in the spaces it seems to be able to fit. The other Derry Longhorn (the one recovered from the river over the hill) i sold right after i tried it. It didnt seem to do very well and it is ugly lookin to me.
Derry longhorn 4520, Pacific P16, CAT 745 have great tire grip that's why I like all three trucks.
I feel like the most useful one is the mud race as some roads have very annoying mud area (like white valley or even north port). Even scout vehicles struggle desperately in these areas (except tatarin which is crazily good in mud). BTW, 4520 also has very good turning radius. However US trucks cannot carry cargos directly (My twinsteer has no AWD upgrade so it is almost useless in mud). Look at azov 73210, you can even throw a loading crane to it. Thanks to powerful engine and big tyres, they perform very well in deep mud when hauling Ramped flatbed trailer, really love them.
The one thing in my opinion that can improve the Pacific P 12 is that it can have taller snorkels so it doesn’t get water damage
wonder how this would look like now with all the new engines and active suspension (specifically for the derry, it improves the dead axle problem by a whole lot by keeping it lifted by default and giving you the option to lower it) ) and also the new trucks. That said, I really like the Derry 3I94. Again, the axle isn't as much of an issue anymore (though i still have to be very mindful of my lines) and it's nice and consistent through mud and water, even if it's not the quickest.
The 4520 is also a lot better with its new engine now. Actually has enough power to haul itself and large loads up some decent slopes, paired with probably the best turning circle of the heavy class I think it's probably one of the best heavies for those massive hauls, though it still does lack utility.
I think it be interesting to see this test again now that the twins-steer is all wheel drive capable
RWD Twinsteer still competes.
AWD Rematch
With heavier penalties on the dnf (recovering should have a heavy penalty) and restructuring the fuel usage to go off of litres per minute rather than minutes per tank (hard mode you use as little fuel as you can). Here are the standings.
P-12 68
DH4 48
CAT 38
DH3 30
P16 20
WS 2
for the people that dont know, on the loading screen to drummond island the p16 doesnt have stock tires
Wonder if they changed it later in the development in the game, same as the ank mk38 it is seen hauling a heavy fuel semi trailer even though it can’t due to it having only a sideboard bed.
The Derry 4520 has the turning circle and narrow profile of like a scout vehicle. This allows it access to several road that no other heavy duty truck can reliably use.
yeah, whenever I finish a delivery with it that opens a new map, I usually keep the Derry around to scout it for a bit unti it wither runs out of fuel or it get it stuck (which isn't all that easy, even with the chained tires it powers through a lot of stufff). The biggest drawback I think is that it's pretty underwpowered which, ironically, makes it not very good for hauling. The other derry feels a bit more consistent in that regard and the dead axle is kind of a bummer but it's easy to compensate by being more mindful of your routes. (and avoiding large rocks). It's actually kind of been fixed by the active suspension that lets you lift a bit more than before the updates.
5:28 Did you not activate the Diff lock for the CAT?! It looked a bit like that
It’s deceiving because the p16 has the power and grip you want to tow things. If you base it solely on getting where you need to go quickly with a ton of weight behind you the p16 is what you want
Exactly. That's why for all the mega trailer contracts and ultra large loads I always use the p16 or the p12. The speed is arbitrary when the goal is just getting there. And usually even though slower thanks to that monsterous low end gearing they wind up getting there faster then the others for that exact reason. I'm glad that this game introduced me to pacific trucks. They are awesome!
Plus I'm really excited to try out the new p512, especially once they unlock the awd to it as it is in the code. Probably in phase 4 they will add it's awd. But from what I've seen the 512 is pretty good with just the diff, it is pacific after all. Not to mention the p16 is getting it's very own custom log trailer when phase 3 drops. I've been wanting to use it for it's intended purpose for a very long time coming!
Pacific trucks are based out of Vancouver BC, Canada. Later partnered with International Harvester trucks, and were bought put from there. They still make parts for these old beasts
Another great comparison! 👍🏻
2 trucks that have changed is the twinsteer and derry longhorn 3194 twinsteer awd and derry liftable axle
Mud tyres are what you need for snow, chains are for ice. The reason the p12 and the Derrys performed poorly is because you can't fit chains to the others.
I use the p12 all the time. It truly is great!
Same
I kinda wish the p-12 had a low saddle and tall snorkels it would make it the ultimate off-road machine
Would be interesting to see what difference the twin stear Awd will do
No stability test? Rollover is the most dangerous thing I concerned
I found the p-12 to be extremely good at off-roading
after all this and you put real gameplay in it. Like taking a trailer from the garage. go get that and back to garage. i P16 will get the job done. who needs speed anyways with the glitchy things in snowrunner. :)
Good video man
Включаю Кантри музыку и играю от первого лица,Игра просто супер!!!! Дружище,Спасибо за обзор.
So every youtuber can cross the mud pit with Cat except you...
And get stuck in the river with twin steer...
Lol seems like some hater or some fanboy came here 😂😂
@@alexgreg152 No, it's just the truth.
@@pilot_xoan Yeah sure bruh...
Twinsteer's got torque for days and is an absolute speed demon on tarmac but god damn does is chugs gas like it's nobody's business.
The only thing the p16 needs is capable awd and chains
Too good
pacific trucks is a canadian brand, not americian, i also think that if the p16 had awd it would be even more of a beast.
Great video! Thanks!
Nice video
I love the derry 4520 it's so easy to drive and has an awesome horn but its power is just awful it struggles to pull itself up inclines sometimes and for a vehicle that's only addons are the saddles a B+ at best is terrible
I agree, I think that both derrys are lacking. Taking the 4520 to a v12 and the other one to a v16 could make them amazing. They are after all supposed to haul tanks.
The HET mod for the 4520 brings it up to its true specs, loved those things in my old unit.
@@redhunter68 Not true specs but overpowered specs. Game has torque too low but modder made it way too high now it's 385000 torque when most powerful in game truck in game had 265000 I think. Its still needs some tweaking. For example make from 190000 torque value to 225000 so it still somewhat realistic for dd12 engine. I would agree to keep same torque values for cat c 18 800hp engine but not detroit diesel engine that makes nearly half torque that c18 can make IRL.
This convinced me to sell the twinsteer and get the p12
Noooo keep the twinsteer, it’s really helpful when you don’t need to drag a trailer back to a trailer store or when you need a good truck carrier
the twin steer is the best truck in the game because it now has AWD, it didn’t in this video, if not top 3 trucks, it gets through anything
Pacific P12 абсолютный калич в игре, не знаю как он здесь такие результаты показал
Fun fact the p16 is really good in auto on mid and snow
You turned on AWD during Mud Race in Dery Longhorn 4520
The twinsteer should be able to pull a trailer, they do have fifthwheels in real life
Great video!
Should re make these tests with the new trucks and with awd on the twinsteer
P16 all the way, I do every heavy haul contract with it and now with the new trailer from imandra I use it for everything, best truck in game in my opinion, AND that horn tho ;D
Unless you want to tow something up a hill, then the p16 (other heavies too) is utterly useless
i use the 4520 for all my heavy haulage i was shocked at how piss poor it was in this video i know its underpowered for the size of its engine it really dose need more power but it was outclassed by its 6x8 (3194) other half i used that once and it sucked what happened did they update it i thought that would DNF all tests
Not all trucks are meant for every terrain
USA side? Since when Canada (Pacific Trucks) become a part of the USA? North America is the correct variant.
Same they weren’t all on the same tyre and all in 4wd
I want some dump trucks, and dump truck missions on this game? Does anyone else agree?
You should do a rematch cause some trucks have gotten some upgrades since
What game/simulator is this? TIA
Snowrunner my dude
super underated love u bro
twinsteer with AWD wins this one easly, wouldn't be surprised if it won in all categories...
I beleive they should have implemented the lifting poles on the 6900 twin steer. Being an bed truck it should be able too load things larger and longer then its bed as well, it really should have 6 or 8 slots of cargo space in my opinion.
The Derry Longhorn was not shown correctly. There were multiple circumstances were you should have had the middle wheel suspension lowered so it didn’t high center. One of the biggest things with the longhorn is knowing when to adjust suspension so you don’t get stuck.
The Longhorn didn’t always have the ability to raise the drop axle. I don’t remember offhand when that ability was added, but this video more than likely was made before it was possible.
Had to be before awd was released to the twinsteer the thing is a beast next to the Pacifics
u test ws 6900 whitout AWD,why?
and why don't you use the differential lock on the vehicle that equips it?
this test makes absolutely no sense.
It didn't have AWD at the time the video was recorded
i think this big trucks for only carry heavy cargo. Not for race
you should’ve installed awd on ws 6900
Can we get another heavy truck battle with the new western 49x and the twinsteers awd upgrade pls and throw in the navistar be 10/10
Western star 49x is like a off road/heavy duty truck not heavy even though it’s in that class.
Which all goes to prove that you use a different truck based on the conditions that it has to face.
it may not be the best but I love the P16
This trucks are not meant to be fast, they're powerful, reliable and slow
Fun fact: mud tires are better in snow than chain, therefore putting trucks in the snow tests who can’t have chained tires, at an advantage
If you had all the upgrades on the twin star 6900 with its AWD, V16, lift and bigger tires I do believe it would win or atleast finish top 3
Really great video but one problem I looked up pacific trucks and they are Canadian they are not American.
Pro video 💪🏻
Why is diff lock not on in all offroad tests????
NICE TEST......OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Why did you use ice tires for the snow?
Did you lift the dead axle on the Derry 3194?
Derry 3194 did not have the dead axle yet to activate.
@@BabooWik that’s a damn outrage. Nah I just like this truck the best.
ilove this
"Full upgrades"
Except for Twinsteer...
not very fair to the twinsteer most are way shorter than it so it's only able to do most with awd with the length I've never had a problem with mine besides tipping when I'm not focused and running out of fuel on long drive
the ice climb should nto of counted as some of the trucks had chains and some did not
that was because those trucks don't have an option for chained tires.
It’s a fair comparison. The chain-less trucks can’t deal with ice, and that’s a good way to show it- and this is coming from someone that loves using the P-16.
So I obviously did something wrong with the p12. I used it to haul long logs and medium logs in Island Lake and Drummond island. It was an absolute joke to say the least. The biggest POS I've ever driven in this game. Kept getting stuck everywhere, had to detach trailer multiple times. Even had to bring another truck to help pull it out, multiple times. But it dominated most of these tests? Something's not right ..
Ese es el que yo uso y me saca de muchas pero muchas, de hecho tengo 2.
Yesss! I bought the right truck!
2nd truck is nice
What song was used in this vid? its sick!
Anno Domini Beats - Dark Tranquility
How is it possible that the old Derry defeated the newer one??
Rusky side?
I still think that the CAT is best.
P12 best tires for snow is OHD I. NO others...!
CAT looses in tests only because 71 inch tires needs diff.
p16 is the best
Westernstar 6900 Twinster don't have AWD and Derry longhorn 3194 don't have hidden centre tires, and the drive wrong!
Please remake this video with AWD Western Star and new Cat
What is the old CAT? I got it soon and I don't know the difference. If it had a diff lock back then, this test automatically becomes invalid to me. I almost found myself shouting "Turn the damn diff lock on!!!" more than once
P12 all day.
The twin steer wins the ice climb and yet DNF in the snow..?🤷🏼♂️
Yup, because the Twinsteer has chain tires and snow is treated as mud. Since this was before the Twinsteer AWD Addon, it performs poorly in mud. A rematch now would make things a very different story.
whats the map
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So it’s better then the Navistar 5,000-MV?
What’s it?
it was ur mistake 6900 stuck in off road race :) its really easy offroad for twinsteer.
P12 easlisy the best
Anyone ever played with the gears and actually know how to drive anything fast in the game?
Don’t drive fast trust me you will spin out happens to me
The 745c looks sad
The Pacific trucks are not american they're Canadian
North American.
@@BrianM78 Canadian trucks. Americans don't get any credit for Pacifics.
@@bmdbigfeet1031 but both countries are in North America. Deal with it.
@@a-a-rondavis9438 But if it was the other way around, the Americans would be pounding their chests "those are American, not Canadian!" I can hear it already.
@@a-a-rondavis9438 there different countries. DEAL WITH YOUR POOR GEOGHRAPHY
P12 is annoying I prefer the p16
Only one test with actual hauling, the ice test where the Cat and the P16 are stuck with their excellent mud tyres.
Overall completely useless video.
We should see heavy hauling, on dirt, on mud, on road, in deep mud, on snow, on ice, on high slope, on rocky terrain/stability/sturdiness
Cat 745 is not even heavy truck his mass in file is 7 tons xd