When Jor-El spoke about vanity and how it was because of vanity that led to the ultimate destruction of the Kryptonian civilization it was just so amazingly poetic. You can have all the visual effects in the world. Without words and emotion it will never have what it takes to become a timeless classic.
Reminds me of some Star Trek TNG episodes. The visuals haven't held up well, but some of the scenes with Picard were top notch writing and acting, which is why they're classics.
People often say Brando 'phoned it in', and yes he was using 'idiot cards' to read the lines often. However his delivery is so good that it doesn't matter. He just had that gravitas and eloquence. You believe every word he says. A great choice to play Jor-El.
only he was able to pull it off i think with brando he did study the script but felt that if he could read the lines fresh for the first time while having them placed in certain places it would be more a organic performance .for someone like him he made it work and pulled it off seamlessly
People kinda pretend it's not but *this is the best superhero movie* in the history of this genre. It is a landmark and a main reference. Not one single title shall take its place.
The producers said they wanted an epic and the director delivered at great expense for greater reward. Wonder Woman 1918 was loved, but they made her so powerful there could be no good follow-up. They took out the key "bullets and bracelets" challenge where she proved herself worthy to go to "man's world" as well as her vulnerabilities such as to gas, which sometimes resulted in her being tied up. They used to say if Superman really existed during World War II, he would have ended it. They had a chance to do that in Wonder Woman, but set it when the war was nearly over. If she'd showed up when trench warfare started and pride kept them from seeking peace, she could have changed history, postponing or eliminating the Russian revolution, for instance, World War II and the Cold War thus giving us 100 years of relative peace.
RIP and long live Marlon Brando (April 3, 1924 - July 1, 2004), aged 80 And RIP and long live Christopher Reeve (September 25, 1952 - October 10, 2004), aged 52 You both will always be remembered as legends.
Some people don't like the deleted scene where Jor-El gives Kal-El his powers back at the cost of his Artificial Intelligence/soul. He forms an image of his body and touches him on the shoulder.
@@sandal_thong8631 That deleted scene was key to two scenes in the first two movies: the one in which Jor-El spoke of the prophecy in which "the father becomes the son and the son the father" in the first movie, and how in the second Superman can remember Kryptonian school tricks pulled on Zod when he and Jor-El were much younger but which Clark shouldn't conceivably have known of.
Marlon Brando's dialogue to his Son pierces both my Heart and Soul, cannot help but cry. He speaks with compassion, very sincere with love in undertones.
These scenes should have never been edited out in the first place. They speak to the core of his growth and the true nature of the fortress of solitude.
@@andysahs1599 Hmmm...I kind of disagree. He went to Metropolis, faced them, realized he would've caused more harm to the people and left, leading them to the trap he set up at the Fortress of Solitude, where he essentially duped them by using Lex Luthor's playbook from the first movie.
I love that they took the time to show how superman learnt from his mistakes and how kind and compassionate he is and he understood that he needed to hold himself to a higher set of morals because of the power he has and really showed that in an admirable quality I actually think this is the more interesting part of his personality and origin and certainly more complex nuanced than showing him just punching people and smashing everything up in massive fights in my opinion these sort of scenes are obviously lacking in new movies because they are dumbed down to hell
@@akash377 The mistake of revealing himself to the people of Earth. Jor-El evidently had the idea that Kal-El should act behind the scenes. However, as we see, Jor-El considered the possibility that Kal-El would get a little carried away with his newfound powers and role and encoded the responses to that situation into the interactive AI similacrum he programmed into the green crystal.
(Jor-El): You enjoyed it. (Kal-El): I don't know what to say, Father. I... I'm afraid I just got carried away. (Jor-El): I anticipated this, my son. (Kal-El): You couldn't have. You couldn't have imagined..... (Jor-El): How good it felt. (Kal-El): 🙂 (Jor-El): You are revealed to the world.... Very well. So be it. But, you still must keep your secret identity. (Kal-El): Why? 😕 (Jor-El): The reasons are two. First, you cannot serve humanity 28 hours a day. (Kal-El): 24. (Jor-El): Or 24, as it is in Earth time. Your help would be called for endlessly. Even for those tasks which human beings could solve themselves. Is is their habit to abuse their resources in such a way. (Kal-El): And, secondly? (Jor-El): Second, your enemies will discover, their only way to hurt you, by hurting the people you care for. (Kal-El): 🙂 Thank you, Father. (Jor-El): ... Lastly, *sigh*, do not punish yourself for your feelings of vanity. Simply learn to control them. (Kal-El): 😳 It is an affliction common for all, even on Krypton. Our destruction could have been avoided but for the vanity of some who consider us, indestructible. *Moves closer* Were it not for vanity, why... at this very moment...... I could embrace you in my arms.................... My son. (Kal-El): 😮 (Jor-El): *fades away* (Kal-El): 🤗 That scene was very emotional. 😔 But, the Richard Donner scene was kinda funny. 😆
@@davidjr.tolson6831 He means - near the end of the clip. The guy that Clark is speaking to? THAT is Richard Donner - in a cameo. :D ( and he's affecting an OUTRAGEOUSLY thick "Brooklyn" accent - that's not how Donner normally speaks at all! :D )
Beautiful , not immature , not childish , not stupid ,quite the contrary. Still brings a tear to my eye. ..I couldn't never fully appreciate these scenes as a child ,one has to grow up first. just wonderfully done .That's Brando , baby
Jor-el made a good point about the vanity of the Kryptonians. One day maybe centuries from now, someone is going to talk about the vanity of mankind and how it almost destroyed us.
@@bobSCOTT99 I'm thinking it's like _Thor: Love & Thunder._ For _Superman: The Movie_ they filmed "extra" scenes to deliberately add them to the TV version to make money by the minute. In the case of Thor they filmed another 2 hours, so maybe we'll see an extended director's cut sometime (maybe not on TV) that adds the best to flesh-out the stories of the villain, the Guardians, and Jane Foster.
This scene reminded me of the end of the Justice League Unlimited animated series, where Superman tells Darkseid about how he must always be cautious with his actions because he felt like he was "living in a world made of cardboard". Him finally being able to reveal himself to the world, and his joy over being able to "cut loose". I also liked the reasons that Jor-El gave for him having to keep a secret identity. i really wished that the scene had been left in the theatric release.
They filmed so much "extras" to add to the TV version on purpose. There's so many scenes people could make their own versions now, just as they have their favorite versions of _Star Wars._
2:08-2:12 I’ve always felt sorry 😣 for Superman losing his real parents from planet krypton. 2:22-2:31 I really liked this fortress of solitude from Superman the movie.
I have seen this movie 1000 times, and NEVER SAW THIS PART!!!! :( I bought ALL versions through my cable and just discovered this scene. I'm hoping there are more of these father/son talks.
If Marlon Brando collected $ 10 million or $ 14 million for his brief role as Jor-El, every dollar paid off well. No other actor could have been so emotional and such a great feeling of fatherly love. It is a pity that these emotional scenes were cut in the movie for money reasons. Marlon Brando was and will always be the best and only Jor-El. Regards.
This is maybe the best part of the special edition of the movie. The traps in the tunnel were an unexpected surprise too(for someone who wasn't around for the 3 hour cut in the 80s).
The scene demonstrates the loneliness and sadness of Superman whose entire race has been extinct. He is the last survivor of his planet and race. He has nobody to turn to except an AI of his parents. In the episode in the Justice League where he is given anything he wants, he only wanted to be back on Krypton with his parents.
I can see him moving to Argo City. Or fighting Brainiac to liberate the bottled city of Kandor. They should have done a team-up for that, but the idea they had was disgusting.
The guy that is talking to Clark Kent at the TV shop watching the news at 2:59 is played by Richard Donner the director of this film . Then when Jor-El tells his son that his enemies will discover that their way to hurt him is by hurting the people he cares for . This happens in Superman II in the Metropolis battle when he takes on General Zod , Non, and Ursa .
Superman may have been crying on the inside after the spirit of Jor-El,his Kryptonian father,vanished after telling him about his 1st night in Metropolis and getting some advice inside the Fortress of Solitude.
By that, I'm guessing a Kryptonian day had 28 hours. Perhaps Jor-El did not know an Earth day was 4 hours shorter. It would make sense, seeing as he had never left the planet due to space travel and construction of spacecrafts long having been forbidden by law at that point.
@@joaniekeyser4036 It's one of my favorite details in this movie because any other movie would just assume the only difference between Krypton and Earth is the color of their suns. It makes the world feel a bit more realistic.
The spirit of Superman‘s mother,Lara, should‘ve tried to appear beside Jor-El so that both of them would‘ve heard about their son‘s 1st night in Metropolis fighting crime & saving lives.
This scene...it somehow makes me imagine that this was a 1978 Superman weekly tv series that ends each episode with him talking to Joe El about what moral he learned that week, and as he stands there at the crystal console, as the light darkens, the credits would roll. Damn, that would have been a fine show...which would not have been appreciated by audiences at the time, and an ABC network that would have undoubtedly sent the series to an early grave by putting it up against Dallas in its prime!
I wish Lois and Clark had taken after the movies a little more and it could have been like that. But there was no fortress on that show and was too focus on romance novel stuff.
Because it would prove that he's not invincible. What most Donner fans that use this movie against DCEU fail to understand is that there are moments like this that take Superman out of the Silver Age and make him more 3 Dimensional. The very things I use to show DCEU in the beginning was not all that different from this. For some strange reason, people feel like Superman should be a God, failing to realize Superman doesn't even want to be that. Just some guy that tries to help people.
@@Shanethefilmmaker I'm not a comic book reader but I'm sure that Johnathan and Martha raised Clark as a human first. A God complex just wouldn't suit Superman because that's just not how he was raised. He has godlike power yes, but he grew up on Earth just like the rest of us, he's a person with a personality and scenes like this are golden.
@@chandleralves698 That is true, he was raised humans, but much like most of the populace in the comics, fans of the comics believe that despite that, he should be both a physically and emotionally invincible God that can do no wrong. Pretty much perverting the point of Superman and Jor-El's speech to begin with.
They filmed "extra" scenes to sell to the TV network that would air it, making money per minute. Which scene would you cut to add this vanity talk? There doesn't have to be one cut. You can pick and choose for a movie like this or _Star Wars._
Such a wondrous scene, flawlessly performed by the best two actors who will ever take on these roles. And very important too (why Superman needs to keep his secret identity) can’t think why they’d cut it
Which scene would you cut from the 2-hour version to add this scene? It was meant to be a 2-hour movie. They filmed more so they could sell it for TV and make more money. There's probably a lot of good scenes in the 4-hour version of _Thor: Love and Thunder_ that had to be "cut" to fit the 2-hour runtime.
@@GinolasSon Sorry, theaters won't go for it. Of course that ship has sailed. DVDs and streaming can have whatever. I didn't look the last time I was on DC or HBO Max
And they say the Donner movie and the Snyder movie are too different from each other. Even in the most subtle moments, they have similarities. Superman went to embrace the image of Jor-El only to realize that it's not only not real, but gone. No different than any moment Cavill's Superman thinks about his own family. Maybe instead of focusing on what makes them different why not focus on what makes them the same.
Deep, meaningful and poignant words delivered with great sincerity and warmth from one of the all time greatest. Marlon Brando was pretty good too ;-) This is what is missing from Hollywood nowadays, they could not craft a scene like this now even if they wanted to.. far too busy ramming other messages down our throats.
Great scene from the extended 3 Hour cut of Superman The Movie (1978) that aired on ABC TV in 1982 part of The ABC Saturday Night Movie of The Week and later released on Blu-Ray Disc via The Warner Archive Collection in 2017. Love this scene between Superman talking to his father Jor-EL don't know why this was cut in one version then added back for the Special Edition version on DVD in 2001 then released on Blu-Ray Disc in 2011 as part of The Superman Motion Picture Anthology,. Maybe it was cut in the Theatrical Cut due to time maybe? Still great scene of Christopher Reeve's Superman and glad we have it to all watch and enjoy !!!
This one scene is why i prefer the special edition to the theatrical version i have Superman 4k but its only the Theatrical in 4k so i basically won't use it because this one scene is amazing and epic
One of the best scenes. I could embrace you in my arms. Breaks my heart every time. Producers and studios obsessed with time. A longer movie has less screenings therefore, less income. Bullshit. One of the greatest actors ever, and a performance like that gets cut out?!
Would Superman have shed tears if he saw both the spirits of his Kryptonian parents in the Fortress of Solitude as he was talking about his 1st night in Metropolis and that he couldn‘t embrace them in his arms?
If they had been tears of grief, then no. Kryptonians cannot express grief by crying as we do according to an online article I read on what Superman's body is and is not capable of. However, Kryptonians do mark every sixth birthday with a massive, stress-relieving crying jag, I read in the same article. I almost cried myself when Kal went to hug Jor-El only to realize he couldn't. Poor Kal, all he wanted at that moment was to hug his father. But he couldn't due to the council refusing to heed Jor-El's warning. By Rao, they were a stupid, vanitorious lot, the council.
0:42 because you're still Clark Kent. You were raised as Clark Kent. By two loving parents. You're part of their family too and that deserves some acknowledgment. 18 years with them and 12 years with your biological father of your hologram have made you the best of both worlds. The powers make you Superman but humanity makes you Clark. And you need to keep that tether. So the glasses stay on. Humility over vanity. And yes, your dad is right, you have no privacy otherwise. No rest. And the bad guys would know how to hurt you. You might be bulletproof and fireproof, but Lois, your mother, and your coworkers are not.
Most of today's live-action comic book superhero feature films try to do away with the whole concept of a secret identity as if it was somehow a trivial or UN-important matter 🙄 ! Some superheroes have secret identities for the very reasons mentioned in this video clip by none other than Superman's father ! The concept of a secret identity has always been one of the most interesting things about costumed superheroes and Hollywood is taking that away from true superhero fans 🙄 !
Iron Man should have a Secret Identity in the Movies, as well as in the Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes, why they have the heroes without Secret Identities is hard to fathom since when I grew up all Super Heroes had Secret Identities, even villains did - Green Goblin at the beginning, no knew who he was, that is what kept me coming back to Spiderman every month. Even Thor had secret identity in the beginning.
What was it Bill said in _Kill Bill, Part 2?_ That his true identity is Superman, but only pretends to be Clark Kent. I however, think after 12 years of re-education he's now Kal-El, and both Superman and Clark Kent are personas he plays for others. At the end of the Clark vs Superman battle of _Superman III_ Christopher Reeve should have stepped out wearing the white light clothing of Jor-El, telling them to stop. But I don't think many others subscribe to my view.
He just wanted a hug from his dad. I know he was pronouncing Krypton wrong, but who was going to correct The Godfather when he’s delivering such a good performance?
Yes, and I learned that apparently the House of El is descended from Rao, the deity they worshipped. It's funny how Rao is never mentioned in any of the live action films that I've seen, yet it seems that, in the comics, Kal has been known to invoke Rao's name now and then, with "By Rao!" being the most common exclamation. It makes sense really, because of the way he was raised. Jonathan and Martha gave him a good Christian upbringing, and it would go against the way he was raised to say "Oh my God", even tho he did in Superman 2 when lois stupidly jumped in the river in an attempt to force him to reveal himself as Superman just to confirm her suspicions about him.
Is that director Richard Donner at the very end of this clip. The guy who says "That'll be the day!" to Clark? It sounds like him doing a NY accent and it looks like him.
And this actually was a deleted scene. It has more emotion, and impact then any scenes in the new superman movies. *sigh they'll never make movies like this again
This Superman knew how to stop a bullet single handedly. One of the other Supermen was George Reeves. He couldn't stop the bullet which "had his name on it."
Here we have the synthesis of 3 talents: the pros of Mario Puzo, the acting of Marlon Brando, and the music of John Williams coming together to convey a mythical and classical cinematic moment between a father and a son that was unfortunately cut out of the theatrical release. This is why the suits who took over Hollywood from the original moguls don't understand good art when they see it!!
this is why this generation has lost its way, protecting your identity to protect and love those who are close to you is important ironman totally ignores heroism and focuses on action/entertainment only
The delivery on "you couldn't have!" is amazing. It's a very Clark kind of reaction he rarely shows when he's in the suit.
R.I.P. Richard Donner, thank you for making such an incredible Superman film. I love this scene so much
When Jor-El spoke about vanity and how it was because of vanity that led to the ultimate destruction of the Kryptonian civilization it was just so amazingly poetic.
You can have all the visual effects in the world. Without words and emotion it will never have what it takes to become a timeless classic.
Exactly!!
It hit me right in the feels (not being sarcastic.)
Reminds me of some Star Trek TNG episodes. The visuals haven't held up well, but some of the scenes with Picard were top notch writing and acting, which is why they're classics.
Credits to Tom Mankiewicz for writing the dialogues of the Kryptonians superbly. RIP.
Man of Steel lacked heart and charm. Agreed.
why in the world would anyone cut a second of Marlon Brando's dialogue? It's perfection.
You can thank the greedy producers for that.
Money
Money, sad but true. Now there are no scenes like this but the films cost millions more than it would have cost to pay Marlon Brando to speak.
Pay 10 million, the highest ever for Brando, and cut his dialogue?? Insane
I think it was also cut for time and while I don’t mind this scene being cut out, I still love this scene.
People often say Brando 'phoned it in', and yes he was using 'idiot cards' to read the lines often. However his delivery is so good that it doesn't matter. He just had that gravitas and eloquence. You believe every word he says. A great choice to play Jor-El.
Brando reading off of cue cards is still better than some actors at their absolute finest, most method.
only he was able to pull it off i think with brando he did study the script but felt that if he could read the lines fresh for the first time while having them placed in certain places it would be more a organic performance .for someone like him he made it work and pulled it off seamlessly
Only Gregory Peck could have even come close. But no scenario beats Brando at this one.
Didn't he do the same for the Godfather?
People kinda pretend it's not but *this is the best superhero movie* in the history of this genre. It is a landmark and a main reference. Not one single title shall take its place.
Inclined to Agree, sir.
It is the Apex Example of its Type.
The producers said they wanted an epic and the director delivered at great expense for greater reward.
Wonder Woman 1918 was loved, but they made her so powerful there could be no good follow-up. They took out the key "bullets and bracelets" challenge where she proved herself worthy to go to "man's world" as well as her vulnerabilities such as to gas, which sometimes resulted in her being tied up. They used to say if Superman really existed during World War II, he would have ended it. They had a chance to do that in Wonder Woman, but set it when the war was nearly over. If she'd showed up when trench warfare started and pride kept them from seeking peace, she could have changed history, postponing or eliminating the Russian revolution, for instance, World War II and the Cold War thus giving us 100 years of relative peace.
The effects of Jor-El’s hologram still hold up really well, I love how practical and creative the effect is.
His dialogue with his son is on point, Jor-El's high academic & parental nature is filtered perfectly through the actor, Marlon Brando.
RIP and long live Marlon Brando (April 3, 1924 - July 1, 2004), aged 80
And
RIP and long live Christopher Reeve (September 25, 1952 - October 10, 2004), aged 52
You both will always be remembered as legends.
The way Superman reaches out get's me every time.
Lightray110 1:50 me too.
Some people don't like the deleted scene where Jor-El gives Kal-El his powers back at the cost of his Artificial Intelligence/soul. He forms an image of his body and touches him on the shoulder.
@@sandal_thong8631 That deleted scene was key to two scenes in the first two movies: the one in which Jor-El spoke of the prophecy in which "the father becomes the son and the son the father" in the first movie, and how in the second Superman can remember Kryptonian school tricks pulled on Zod when he and Jor-El were much younger but which Clark shouldn't conceivably have known of.
Marlon Brando's dialogue to his Son pierces both my Heart and Soul, cannot help but cry. He speaks with compassion, very sincere with love in undertones.
I love the sheer wisdom of jor-el.
These scenes should have never been edited out in the first place. They speak to the core of his growth and the true nature of the fortress of solitude.
This was also a warning to Kal-El. His overconfidence led him to getting blindsided by Lex Luthor later on.
And Zod ,Ursa , and Non in Superman II during the Metropolis battle.
@@andysahs1599 Hmmm...I kind of disagree. He went to Metropolis, faced them, realized he would've caused more harm to the people and left, leading them to the trap he set up at the Fortress of Solitude, where he essentially duped them by using Lex Luthor's playbook from the first movie.
@@maxigol1977 He means the Kryptonite in the lockbox.
I love that they took the time to show how superman learnt from his mistakes and how kind and compassionate he is and he understood that he needed to hold himself to a higher set of morals because of the power he has and really showed that in an admirable quality I actually think this is the more interesting part of his personality and origin and certainly more complex nuanced than showing him just punching people and smashing everything up in massive fights in my opinion these sort of scenes are obviously lacking in new movies because they are dumbed down to hell
What mistake?
@@akash377 The mistake of revealing himself to the people of Earth. Jor-El evidently had the idea that Kal-El should act behind the scenes. However, as we see, Jor-El considered the possibility that Kal-El would get a little carried away with his newfound powers and role and encoded the responses to that situation into the interactive AI similacrum he programmed into the green crystal.
@@LordZontar Okay. I understood.
Such wisdom oozing out of the first movie.
(Jor-El): You enjoyed it.
(Kal-El): I don't know what to say, Father. I... I'm afraid I just got carried away.
(Jor-El): I anticipated this, my son.
(Kal-El): You couldn't have. You couldn't have imagined.....
(Jor-El): How good it felt.
(Kal-El): 🙂
(Jor-El): You are revealed to the world.... Very well. So be it. But, you still must keep your secret identity.
(Kal-El): Why? 😕
(Jor-El): The reasons are two. First, you cannot serve humanity 28 hours a day.
(Kal-El): 24.
(Jor-El): Or 24, as it is in Earth time. Your help would be called for endlessly. Even for those tasks which human beings could solve themselves. Is is their habit to abuse their resources in such a way.
(Kal-El): And, secondly?
(Jor-El): Second, your enemies will discover, their only way to hurt you, by hurting the people you care for.
(Kal-El): 🙂 Thank you, Father.
(Jor-El): ... Lastly, *sigh*, do not punish yourself for your feelings of vanity. Simply learn to control them.
(Kal-El): 😳
It is an affliction common for all, even on Krypton. Our destruction could have been avoided but for the vanity of some who consider us, indestructible. *Moves closer* Were it not for vanity, why... at this very moment...... I could embrace you in my arms.................... My son.
(Kal-El): 😮
(Jor-El): *fades away*
(Kal-El): 🤗
That scene was very emotional. 😔 But, the Richard Donner scene was kinda funny. 😆
Um, this WAS a Richard Donner scene. Did you mean Richard Lester, who directed Superman II?
@@davidjr.tolson6831 He means - near the end of the clip. The guy that Clark is speaking to? THAT is Richard Donner - in a cameo. :D ( and he's affecting an OUTRAGEOUSLY thick "Brooklyn" accent - that's not how Donner normally speaks at all! :D )
At first, I thought he was talking about being with Lois Lane.
It's cool to see these 3 hour versions!
Yes, and I enjoyed it a lot more than the special edition and original theatrical version of this movie.
Beautiful , not immature , not childish , not stupid ,quite the contrary. Still brings a tear to my eye. ..I couldn't never fully appreciate these scenes as a child ,one has to grow up first. just wonderfully done .That's Brando , baby
Jor-el made a good point about the vanity of the Kryptonians. One day maybe centuries from now, someone is going to talk about the vanity of mankind and how it almost destroyed us.
Our vanity may destroy us still…
This was such a brilliant scene! So well written!
Most powerful scene in the film.
Halfstar3 1:45
And it got deleted from the theatrical version
@@bobSCOTT99 I'm thinking it's like _Thor: Love & Thunder._ For _Superman: The Movie_ they filmed "extra" scenes to deliberately add them to the TV version to make money by the minute. In the case of Thor they filmed another 2 hours, so maybe we'll see an extended director's cut sometime (maybe not on TV) that adds the best to flesh-out the stories of the villain, the Guardians, and Jane Foster.
This scene reminded me of the end of the Justice League Unlimited animated series, where Superman tells Darkseid about how he must always be cautious with his actions because he felt like he was "living in a world made of cardboard". Him finally being able to reveal himself to the world, and his joy over being able to "cut loose". I also liked the reasons that Jor-El gave for him having to keep a secret identity. i really wished that the scene had been left in the theatric release.
They filmed so much "extras" to add to the TV version on purpose. There's so many scenes people could make their own versions now, just as they have their favorite versions of _Star Wars._
wow this scene really hits the feels
2:08-2:12 I’ve always felt sorry 😣 for Superman losing his real parents from planet krypton. 2:22-2:31 I really liked this fortress of solitude from Superman the movie.
2:53. Richard Donner.
Thank you for pointing that out!
I have never seen this wonderful scene before! Thank you Flashback FM!
I have seen this movie 1000 times, and NEVER SAW THIS PART!!!! :( I bought ALL versions through my cable and just discovered this scene. I'm hoping there are more of these father/son talks.
There's the Donner cut of Superman II.
@@axebomber2108 Yep, two excellent scenes with Brando/Jor-El from that movie. Some don't like them, though. Contrarians I think.
really? i've seen this as a kid on australian tv, never have i seen this movie without this scene
If Marlon Brando collected $ 10 million or $ 14 million for his brief role as Jor-El, every dollar paid off well. No other actor could have been so emotional and such a great feeling of fatherly love. It is a pity that these emotional scenes were cut in the movie for money reasons. Marlon Brando was and will always be the best and only Jor-El. Regards.
exactly brando was worth every buck and he knew it to .he knew his worth and made them pay every bit of it down to the dime
This is maybe the best part of the special edition of the movie. The traps in the tunnel were an unexpected surprise too(for someone who wasn't around for the 3 hour cut in the 80s).
It was $2million but that was astronomical in 77-78
The scene demonstrates the loneliness and sadness of Superman whose entire race has been extinct. He is the last survivor of his planet and race. He has nobody to turn to except an AI of his parents. In the episode in the Justice League where he is given anything he wants, he only wanted to be back on Krypton with his parents.
I can see him moving to Argo City. Or fighting Brainiac to liberate the bottled city of Kandor. They should have done a team-up for that, but the idea they had was disgusting.
This scene is so good - I wish it were in the original.
agreed. adding this scene would have made Kal El's decision at the end more dramatic as he had emotional ties to both Jor El and Pa Kent.
In my opinion this is the best Superman film ever made, it has so many great scenes and this simple yet poignant scene is one of them.
Love this scene. Reminds me to cherish my parents and never take them for granted.
The guy that is talking to Clark Kent at the TV shop watching the news at 2:59 is played by Richard Donner the director of this film . Then when Jor-El tells his son that his enemies will discover that their way to hurt him is by hurting the people he cares for . This happens in Superman II in the Metropolis battle when he takes on General Zod , Non, and Ursa .
A young Christopher Reeves. R.I.P. 🕊️
"Do not punish yourself for your feelings of vanity..." Ah - that's the message I so needed to hear...
My personal favorite scene in the movie. I love the moment Jor el says "you are revealed to the world, very well, so be it".
Superman may have been crying on the inside after the spirit of Jor-El,his Kryptonian father,vanished after telling him about his 1st night in Metropolis and getting some advice inside the Fortress of Solitude.
This movie is a lot longer than I ever knew. Not a bad thing.
Jor-El: 28 hours...
Kal-El: 24, boomer.
It’s Kal-El that’s the boomer.
By that, I'm guessing a Kryptonian day had 28 hours. Perhaps Jor-El did not know an Earth day was 4 hours shorter. It would make sense, seeing as he had never left the planet due to space travel and construction of spacecrafts long having been forbidden by law at that point.
@@joaniekeyser4036 It's one of my favorite details in this movie because any other movie would just assume the only difference between Krypton and Earth is the color of their suns. It makes the world feel a bit more realistic.
The spirit of Superman‘s mother,Lara, should‘ve tried to appear beside Jor-El so that both of them would‘ve heard about their son‘s 1st night in Metropolis fighting crime & saving lives.
As the song goes : "This is a MAAAAAANNN 's world.."
Forgot the rest of the song though.. Some twist at the end..
They only added her in Superman II, because they didn't want to pay Brando, once _Superman: The Movie_ was successful.
This scene...it somehow makes me imagine that this was a 1978 Superman weekly tv series that ends each episode with him talking to Joe El about what moral he learned that week, and as he stands there at the crystal console, as the light darkens, the credits would roll. Damn, that would have been a fine show...which would not have been appreciated by audiences at the time, and an ABC network that would have undoubtedly sent the series to an early grave by putting it up against Dallas in its prime!
I wish Lois and Clark had taken after the movies a little more and it could have been like that. But there was no fortress on that show and was too focus on romance novel stuff.
That kind of reminds me of Mork & Mindy, where every episode would conclude with Mork telling Orson about what he learned from living on earth.
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Exactly!
@@TMC1982Part2 ironically, Reeve and Williams were good friends and alumni of Juliard.
Why
Why
WHY WOULD YOU CUT THIS SCENE FROM THE FULL MOVIE
THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SCENES IN THIS MOVIE DAMMIT
Because it would prove that he's not invincible. What most Donner fans that use this movie against DCEU fail to understand is that there are moments like this that take Superman out of the Silver Age and make him more 3 Dimensional. The very things I use to show DCEU in the beginning was not all that different from this. For some strange reason, people feel like Superman should be a God, failing to realize Superman doesn't even want to be that. Just some guy that tries to help people.
@@Shanethefilmmaker I'm not a comic book reader but I'm sure that Johnathan and Martha raised Clark as a human first. A God complex just wouldn't suit Superman because that's just not how he was raised. He has godlike power yes, but he grew up on Earth just like the rest of us, he's a person with a personality and scenes like this are golden.
@@chandleralves698 That is true, he was raised humans, but much like most of the populace in the comics, fans of the comics believe that despite that, he should be both a physically and emotionally invincible God that can do no wrong. Pretty much perverting the point of Superman and Jor-El's speech to begin with.
They filmed "extra" scenes to sell to the TV network that would air it, making money per minute. Which scene would you cut to add this vanity talk? There doesn't have to be one cut. You can pick and choose for a movie like this or _Star Wars._
Such a wondrous scene, flawlessly performed by the best two actors who will ever take on these roles. And very important too (why Superman needs to keep his secret identity) can’t think why they’d cut it
Which scene would you cut from the 2-hour version to add this scene? It was meant to be a 2-hour movie. They filmed more so they could sell it for TV and make more money. There's probably a lot of good scenes in the 4-hour version of _Thor: Love and Thunder_ that had to be "cut" to fit the 2-hour runtime.
@@sandal_thong8631 it’s not 2 hours is it, it’s 2.20, Just add it in, make the film a couple of minutes longer
@@GinolasSon Sorry, theaters won't go for it. Of course that ship has sailed. DVDs and streaming can have whatever. I didn't look the last time I was on DC or HBO Max
@@sandal_thong8631 cut superman saving the cat, shorten the earthquake sequence,
Appreciate this . Never knew there were good scenes cut.
Superman felt sad to see his Kryptonian father disappear in front of him and that he couldn't embrace him in his arms in the Fortress of Solitude.
Farm boy, Kal-El raised his arms to embrace back. Crying Kryptonite tears, here…..”My Son”
And they say the Donner movie and the Snyder movie are too different from each other. Even in the most subtle moments, they have similarities. Superman went to embrace the image of Jor-El only to realize that it's not only not real, but gone. No different than any moment Cavill's Superman thinks about his own family. Maybe instead of focusing on what makes them different why not focus on what makes them the same.
For all of his powers, still a lonely, lost little boy💔
This scene was never shown in the original 3hour TV Version. Donner added the scene when he put out his special edition back in 2001.
No that's a lie this is showing the 3-hour cut
Interesting. I don't have all the versions to check. You'd think the person posting it as "3-hour TV version" would know?
Deep, meaningful and poignant words delivered with great sincerity and warmth from one of the all time greatest. Marlon Brando was pretty good too ;-) This is what is missing from Hollywood nowadays, they could not craft a scene like this now even if they wanted to.. far too busy ramming other messages down our throats.
This was a great scene. Epic FAIL to cut it.
Great scene from the extended 3 Hour cut of Superman The Movie (1978) that aired on ABC TV in 1982 part of The ABC Saturday Night Movie of The Week and later released on Blu-Ray Disc via The Warner Archive Collection in 2017. Love this scene between Superman talking to his father Jor-EL don't know why this was cut in one version then added back for the Special Edition version on DVD in 2001 then released on Blu-Ray Disc in 2011 as part of The Superman Motion Picture Anthology,. Maybe it was cut in the Theatrical Cut due to time maybe? Still great scene of Christopher Reeve's Superman and glad we have it to all watch and enjoy !!!
Marlon Brando received 5 millions for a few scenes here, shit we are nothing
That wide shot of Superman standing alone in the fortress nails just how isolated he feels. All the power in the world, but still alone.
Wow this scene is fantastic. I’ve never seen it. This definitely should not have been cut
One of my favorite father-and-son moments!!!
This one scene is why i prefer the special edition to the theatrical version i have Superman 4k but its only the Theatrical in 4k so i basically won't use it because this one scene is amazing and epic
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Imagine for one second if Clark was a Corleone.
Perfect scene
One of the best scenes. I could embrace you in my arms. Breaks my heart every time. Producers and studios obsessed with time. A longer movie has less screenings therefore, less income. Bullshit. One of the greatest actors ever, and a performance like that gets cut out?!
I honestly never recalled seeing this in the two times that this was aired on ABC in February of 82 and November of 82.
Neither do I
Would Superman have shed tears if he saw both the spirits of his Kryptonian parents in the Fortress of Solitude as he was talking about his 1st night in Metropolis and that he couldn‘t embrace them in his arms?
I don’t know about him, but I almost did when he tried to hug Jor-El.
If they had been tears of grief, then no. Kryptonians cannot express grief by crying as we do according to an online article I read on what Superman's body is and is not capable of. However, Kryptonians do mark every sixth birthday with a massive, stress-relieving crying jag, I read in the same article. I almost cried myself when Kal went to hug Jor-El only to realize he couldn't. Poor Kal, all he wanted at that moment was to hug his father. But he couldn't due to the council refusing to heed Jor-El's warning. By Rao, they were a stupid, vanitorious lot, the council.
Absolute lunacy to delete such scenes from this great movie
0:42 because you're still Clark Kent. You were raised as Clark Kent. By two loving parents. You're part of their family too and that deserves some acknowledgment. 18 years with them and 12 years with your biological father of your hologram have made you the best of both worlds. The powers make you Superman but humanity makes you Clark. And you need to keep that tether. So the glasses stay on. Humility over vanity. And yes, your dad is right, you have no privacy otherwise. No rest. And the bad guys would know how to hurt you. You might be bulletproof and fireproof, but Lois, your mother, and your coworkers are not.
Dear Marlon Brandon, we love you so much, sir.
Most of today's live-action comic book superhero feature films try to do away with the whole concept of a secret identity as if it was somehow a trivial or UN-important matter 🙄 ! Some superheroes have secret identities for the very reasons mentioned in this video clip by none other than Superman's father !
The concept of a secret identity has always been one of the most interesting things about costumed superheroes and Hollywood is taking that away from true superhero fans 🙄 !
Iron Man should have a Secret Identity in the Movies, as well as in the Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes, why they have the heroes without Secret Identities is hard to fathom since when I grew up all Super Heroes had Secret Identities, even villains did - Green Goblin at the beginning, no knew who he was, that is what kept me coming back to Spiderman every month. Even Thor had secret identity in the beginning.
@@55Quirll the Hulk didn't have a secret identity. The Fantastic Four didn't either.
What was it Bill said in _Kill Bill, Part 2?_ That his true identity is Superman, but only pretends to be Clark Kent. I however, think after 12 years of re-education he's now Kal-El, and both Superman and Clark Kent are personas he plays for others. At the end of the Clark vs Superman battle of _Superman III_ Christopher Reeve should have stepped out wearing the white light clothing of Jor-El, telling them to stop. But I don't think many others subscribe to my view.
He just wanted a hug from his dad.
I know he was pronouncing Krypton wrong, but who was going to correct The Godfather when he’s delivering such a good performance?
"Affluenza."
I realize NOW that "El" is Superman's last name 😂
Yes, and I learned that apparently the House of El is descended from Rao, the deity they worshipped. It's funny how Rao is never mentioned in any of the live action films that I've seen, yet it seems that, in the comics, Kal has been known to invoke Rao's name now and then, with "By Rao!" being the most common exclamation. It makes sense really, because of the way he was raised. Jonathan and Martha gave him a good Christian upbringing, and it would go against the way he was raised to say "Oh my God", even tho he did in Superman 2 when lois stupidly jumped in the river in an attempt to force him to reveal himself as Superman just to confirm her suspicions about him.
Is that director Richard Donner at the very end of this clip. The guy who says "That'll be the day!" to Clark? It sounds like him doing a NY accent and it looks like him.
Yes
And this actually was a deleted scene. It has more emotion, and impact then any scenes in the new superman movies. *sigh they'll never make movies like this again
Seems like these lessons seem more pertinent now more than ever.
This Superman knew how to stop a bullet single handedly. One of the other Supermen was George Reeves. He couldn't stop the bullet which "had his name on it."
Best One Ever!
GREAT STUFF
Superman is speaking to an AI version of his father. It’s amazing how they imagined this over 40 years ago.
Wow never knew this existed. Should never have been cut
This scene messes me up every single time.
i would enjoy being able to do what he suppose to be able to do. help many people.
The Jor-El floating head effect looked better in this film from the 70's, than the floating head effect in Thor Love and Thunder
Richard Donner at 2:54 :)
That's some next level AI from Jor-el there
2:56 Richard Donner right?
Family
Godly scene
Should have been in the theatrical cut
OK. Which scene of this length would you take out to replace it with?
its three minutes, you can sit still an extra three minutes
You must never use your powers in anger.
0:36 is a major reason why I don't like the ending of Superman & Lois.
Jor-El makes two INCREDIBLY valid points about it
where can i find the 3 hour version ? i NEED IT
This is also in the Superman Special Edition
Here we have the synthesis of 3 talents: the pros of Mario Puzo, the acting of Marlon Brando, and the music of John Williams coming together to convey a mythical and classical cinematic moment between a father and a son that was unfortunately cut out of the theatrical release. This is why the suits who took over Hollywood from the original moguls don't understand good art when they see it!!
As we move through through the years, GPT-El starts to be more believable.
Wise words.
"It is their habit to abuse thier resources in such a way. Just like that Brando actor with his Superman paycheck
What, father?
Nothing, my son."
The civilian he speaks to is actually portrayed by director Richard Donner.
this is why this generation has lost its way, protecting your identity to protect and love those who are close to you is important
ironman totally ignores heroism and focuses on action/entertainment only
the Era of the Heroes has gone, now people seems to be more interested in seflish ''heroes'' and Villains.
Wow that JVC advertisement really worked out for them.
Ya tiene doblaje está película?😊
Could ANYONE have done this role better than Brando??
Laurence Olivier.
I thought his mother made him his outfit the scene is missing I can't find it anywhere in any version of this movie
It seems to imply that Clark made it himself from the blanket that came with him during his 12 year training at the Fortress.