Pharrell Williams & Chad Hugo's Fight Over The Neptunes, The JBP Explains
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Chad is the sound! I went into a guitar center about 20 yrs ago and Chad was in there COOKING!!
It was never the same without him
I thought Chad was just the songwriter. Learn something new everyday.
@@TheYellowBrickRoadTVswitch there roles .
@@TheYellowBrickRoadTVother way around
@@TheYellowBrickRoadTV
the story is the same for us all. WE know Chad & SEE Chad 😂… never seen pharrell in public or know cuh
Man this is sad to hear. The Neptunes era of production is goated. It will never be replicated again
lol bullshit, it’s been replicated and has been better production. Go touch grass
it was ok. timbaland era > neptunes era
@@Derek4k you’re entitled to your opinion, but you’re factually wrong. Hit for hit Neptunes has double the hits timberland has 🤷🏽♂️ Facts not feelings
Most things can’t be replicated that’s what makes it special
@@Derek4k🧢
You're so fucking rich and still trying to cut out a partner who built everything with you, that is WILD.... If that's what is happening. That is just greed.
If he'll do that to a friend and collabotrator of 20 years, imagine what he does to everyone else behind the scenes...
That's what it looks like and it's freaking sad to see....
Agreed their artiste Kelis been having that issue for years.
Dog eat dog world . He probably never liked him from the beginning. Now imagine how long Pharrell been using Chad !!
Pharrell misses Chad co-producing rn big time. He’s had hits on his own but you can’t tell me the old stuff don’t “pop” more sonically
I noticed that Pharrell/Neptune’s beats definitively started to sound different around the early 2010s. They were once so innovative, but it kinda went stale
@@jonjackson2177 I blame the split plus them going from analogue gear to DAWs. Used to sound warm and of course innovative. Now whether it's them rarely collaborating together or just P, it sounds good, but stale/thin.
@@ronniesnakehissiii9413 most of their sounds are just korg triton presets, which was a digital and primarily sample based workstation. not much different from the audio that comes out of your computer. in fact, there’s a basically perfect emulation of it available for modern DAWs with all the same sounds. it’s less the sound or quality of sound but more the creativity in selecting and combining ones that are individually unremarkable, their usage of minimalism, and their deceptively simple songwriting. all of these traits are very “out of fashion” in pop now unfortunately and have fallen by the wayside across the industry.
@@ggeessttaallttthey were running their digital synths through analog gear for sure.
@@jaimerodriguez1550 sure, unavoidably so - but I can guarantee you that running a triton through a console preamp or some expensive compressor in a studio rack wasn’t the secret to their sound or success. the mixes on their tracks back then aren’t any better, or more saturated and warm than the tracks Pharell produces today. their sauce at that time period was all in the craft and their ears as musicians and producers. the limitations of hardware at the time might have contributed to them coming up with creative solutions and using sounds they might not today, but I think it’s silly to attribute their success to their signal chain. I think people romanticize artists’ tools too much, and overestimate the power and sound of “analog” workflows, when really it’s all about hard work and having taste and skill that other people don’t.
As a huge Neptune fan, especially during my youth. This beef hurts and is super unfortunate. I hope the gentlemen can work things out and resolve this. Would hate to see a long-running friendship and partnership end like this.
As a huge Neptunes fan YOU know around the time of the split(s) production-wise. You can HEAR it!
Pause @ this beef hurts
Same and same
Didn’t Pharrell take Kelis’s royalties for her first two albums? This is on brand for Pharrell
Pharrel also had Beyonce b4 Jay-Z (yh that part) Blow Ya Horn Now! Austin Powers.
Chad’s humbleness being taken for weakness.. Sad that they aren’t even able to handle this one privately
Your spelling is a *weakness*
Humility
Don't get fooled by how humble Pharrell portrays himself to be, that boy greeeeedy 🤣
I’m from VA!! Neptunes is my dudes!! C’mon Pharrell!! That’s some snake stuff!!🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
This is my Hall n Oats beefing smh
What Ish doesn't understand is that even the quality of their musical productions has been impacted by their separation. As a huge TheNeptunes/N*E*R*D fan, you can definitely hear the difference when Pharrell is producing alone or with Chad. Pharrell is more into hiphop/funk when Chad is more electro/rock/pop. And the last joints recently produced by Pharrell alone lack a lil bit of creativity for me (Pusha T last album for example). This Chad's "alien sound synth" is missing sometimes...
you were doing well until you mentioned pusha t 's last album!!. the album is great as it is..
@@47VIDSDOTCOM It was good! I really enjoyed the album but Kanye's beats carried for me. Pharrell's ones were too repetitive imo
The production on push album was amazing
And in my opinion, CHAD is really the mastermind. But, I digress
The sound is so different now
The characterization that Pharrell tried to cut Chad out is debatable.
Chad’s lawyers are saying that Pharrell’s team didn’t include him in the filings but Pharrell’s lawyers said they contacted Chad and his team several times and got no response.
And anyone who has been following The Neptunes knows Chad is notoriously hard to get in contact with and rarely talks publicly or does interviews.
Hopefully, this sorts itself out because they are both legends.
Like Ish said, you’ve been my close friend since high school. If it’s that hard to contact me on a quick text (which I’m sure Pharrell knows since high school), then put my name on the paperwork anyway
@@Geeandrezzi come on this is real life. For it to get to this it's beyond one man sending a single text.
Lol. You said alot of nothing that makes no sense. You are acting like you know these people. How would chad be hard to get in touch with when Pharrell knows his lawyers, knows his address, and can get someone who is closer to him since they having this girl scout beef to get in touch with him. That sounds as dumb as when executives tell me that they are travelling next week so they will be out of the loop and cant correspond while travelling.
Like they said, its a simple fix, Pharrell filed the paperwork and now chad lawyer is saying put his name on it. It only cost a couple of bucks to add someone name to a legal document and that would solve the issue but for some reason Pharrell would rather argue this nonsense and have his bodyguard Pusha make statements about it instead of simply adding dudes name as he should have done in the first place
@@bjvu9460for real, Pharrell isn’t the press that’s his day one. Him being hard to get an interview with is completely irrelevant
It shouldn't matter if he can find him or not. Put his name on it because it's both of y'alls and not just yours, period.
It’s like time travel when you hear a Neptune beat. It’s so distinct. Can’t say producers are able to do that anymore.
Hurts my heart hearing this. Been riding with these dudes since '97, '98. Had no idea. Just thought Chad wanted to stay out of the spotlight.
Met Chad in the airport 20 years ago. Nice guy.
I’m sure Kelis is getting a hardy chuckle out of this “beef”
Explain?
For what she’s still broke
@@drlove994 To put it nicely they (Kelis, Pharerral and Chad) didn't have a good work relationship
Kelis stated that she was“blatantly lied to and tricked” into signing a contract that prevented her from making money from the sales of her first two albums.
Facts!
@@drlove994Pharrell did Kelis “dirty” with her recording contract, allegedly 👀.
Them having to go through lawyers tells you all you need to know.
Same song different times and eras. Tribe went through it, N.W.A went through it, EPMD, Wu, Mobb Deep, Black Sheep, etc. Hip-hop groups that started off with friendships and have been ten toes down since their youth can have a wedge drawn between them because of fame and stardom, ego, and especially money. Been listening to The Neptune's since the early 2000s when I was living in Oahu, Hawaii. Their sound was different and refreshing. A lot of their success is based on the friendship, creativity, and ideasvthey've had since they were kids...I hope Pharrell and Chad can get back to that.
New music is over for for good. Let's just hope they can shake hands and split it
Reminds me of when Joe cut Rory and Mal out the podcast 😂
Kinda different. Chad & Pharrell are the originals since 15. Rory and Mal helped Joe get better
This been going on since 2006
“The Neptunes” were being credited as producers even when Pharrell was only doing the production.
So for example: Pharrell produced the entire Clips “Hell Hath No Fury” album but it was still credited as “The Neptunes”
we dont know the behind the scenes issues between Pharrell & Chad
Yeah I agree. There's probably something serious going on
Exactly. Joe is just freestyling about an ongoing rumored beef.
There's been issues for a whiiiile if I remember clearly
Pharrell solo prodictions do not have that signature Neptunes sound
@@chriscain1130true but his solo production catalogue is better than Chad’s
We’re definitely not getting that new N.E.R.D. Album now lol
,😢😢😢😢
“I never put my name on any paperwork.” We just saw this play out with Boosie.
Sad, they are why I started creating music. I have the clones poster on my wall right now😢🖖🏾🖖🏾🖖🏾🖖🏾🖖🏾
I always thought Pharrel was the face but Chad was the main guy behind Neptunes 😂
Spot on
Clearly something is amidst when best friends cant communicate with each other without lawyers. Its usually goes far beyone what we know and what we are being told.
True.
Some issues under the radar between the two of them have been going on for years. It dates way back to 2006 when Pharrell dropped the In My Mind album, (which was supposed to have dropped in 2005 but wasn’t fully complete til 2006) which was his first labeled production he did all by himself. Chad went on to produce other artists’ albums by himself as well, so in all actuality, they both split back in the earlier ‘00s.
Mainly because Pharrell was more into the spotlight while Chad liked being a family man and being indoors
The greatest groups always break up or fight over money
This is sad to hear fr, I’m from Virginia Beach and grew up skate boarding as a black youth to the Neptunes their music meant so much to me. I really hope they figure it out!
You can tell the difference in the sound Pharrell’s tracks don’t have bridges. When he was with Chad the sound sonically and bridges were epic. Pharrell is drums and music is Chad
Sounds like Pharrell was trying to leave Chad out of something.. whatever it is I hope it gets resolved 💯
Pharrell is slimey. Glad people are seeing it.
royalties and masters probably
As someone that grew up on their music this is sad.
Man Pharell tryna put Neptunes on a louie bag😂😂😂😂😂nothin to see here
We will never hear that Neptune sound again.
This is heartbreaking to hear… especially since I’ve been a fan since they dropped.
Love and respect Pharrell and Pusha, but it seems like they’re doing Chad dirty with this one.
As a dude from Hampton Roads, VA aka 7 cities, this was a bad moment. When I saw it on the local news station, I had to make sure I heard it right.
A sad day for VA
Imma say it because everybody dancing around the answer. We all love Chad, but Pharell does the most work. He is the face of the Neptune's and has kept them relevant. What was the last Neptune beat you heard?
wasting time by brent faiyaz
Ain't this what johnny gill did to new editio
That’s what happened with New Edition After the movie!!!! That’s why they were beefing that lead to RBRM( Bobby and BBD going on tour without Ralph and Johnny..
How is The Neptunes not already trademarked lol
I agree
Never thought I'd see the day 😫
Joe makin SURE we see that pants/shoes combination 😂 shit fire tho ngl
This hurts
Kelis told us about Pharrell years ago.
I mean you take people's word for it as long-time friends/associates and then years later when you get screwed, people scold you that business is business. "Should've had it on paper" 😭
OH SNAP MY BEY IS BACK ON THE JBP
Foreign entities are buying up HipHop labels and catalogs at a rapid rate. Well, American music, period. Even Taylor Swift has been calling it out. Even some of the classic HipHop catalog is now South Korean owned (via Scooter Braun though). I can totally see why Pharrell’s team would feel the need to file something expeditiously. Esp given their label woes in the early 2000s, there may be loose ends out there that they felt it CANNOT wait for Chad to get on the same page. “Act now, apologize later.” I can also see Chad being in his bubble, difficult to get in contact with in a timely manner. But, I can also see BOTH of them being in their KanYe bag… basically so focused on being creative that they not really closely, Closely watching what the lawyer is ACTUALLY doing.. versus what he’s telling him he’s doing. AND, It Could also be that Pharrell feels like, you fell back, I’m out here pushing and defending the brand. It Could be SO MANY THINGS….. I just choose to draw no conclusions and just hope they get it worked out and pop up together soon.
They’re being bought up because musicians are cash greedy idiots obsessed with being the richest person in the room. Many will regret selling these catalogs in years to come when they realise they have zero perform to stop it from being used in things they detest.
The battle we didnt want fo see 😢
Ish making perfect sense with his take on things
Having grey in your beard and holes in your jeans is wild behavior 😂
Mike Amiri and Jerry Lorenzo have greys in their beards and they are the designers of this whole style.
@@jonjackson2177 just cause other niggas do it too doesn’t negate the fact it looks wild
This is a REAL podcast..Mature content .YES!
Seems like "lil' skateboard P" tried to skate away with the name!
I didn't know you could file a trademark online, I thought u had to go downtown in your city...
Covid changed a lot , you can do a lot more online than before esp with dmv and simple court tasks
@@hazemorris1898 that’s dope! That was a good change
im with chad
Joe Budden is correct.
Look at the credits. Pharrell has been producing on his own for a long time.
Joe got that rich hippie outfit on lol.
Lit ep
People have been saying that Pharrell is shady when it comes to business for years.
The industry is vicious, no loyalty just royalties sad day for hip-hop
if pharrell is doing this.... WOW!!! They have been partners for years. Just do right by one another. This is CRAZY!!!!!!
Kelis been told us that Pharrell is a very dodgy character behind the scenes....so this kind of backs up what she was saying. Chad is so low profile and has deliberately been so, so I don't think he would just be out here doing this for the sake of it.
Why we have lawyers to get ahold of each other we must not be close at all
i heard they were lovers
VA BEACH 757 stand up!
In the end this is so common with partners we all know this by now
Small 👒 hats involved no doubt
I knew this was gonna happen eventually the money was gonna be an issue regardless how long they knew each other
Pharrell had been the front man for the Neptunes since they started 🤷🏾♂️ of course Chad has a lot to offer but let’s not be naive lmao. Pharrell still has the Neptunes signature sounds and STILL is requested by new artists, last thing I heard from Chad was sub par projects with Kenna
What’s your point? That because of that he should snake on Chad and rob him?
Pharrell was front man of Neptunes because he wanted the spotlight and Chad be chilling & never wanted to be in the spotlight…while he’s producing the the original sounds of Neptunes sonically 💯
It's not hard when it's 50/50. Both names on everything all cash in and out is split 50/50. Anyone making that more complicated is trying to scam PERIOD.
The Neptunes are legendary tho
Rory and Mal: First time?
Nothing worse than when a group starts having riffs.
Hope they can patch it up, know they have a few more bangers left between them.
Dam
I wonder what Rory and Mal would do in this situation?
Parks doesn’t belong.
Great engineer and podcast producer, but him always putting his two cents in or even flashing the camera to his face is annoying. Imagine Jamie from JRE doing that…..
@@williammaisonet8228parks is the most knowledgeable on the podcast to a lot of things this cap
@@TheDominicKellmanPodcast smart guy for sure, him talking is definitely not necessary. He just piggy backs off everyone else anyway. This show is his biggest claim to fame, and he knows that.
@@TheDominicKellmanPodcast you must do work with parks, or you are parks to have his duck in your mouth like that…
Parks is a yes man and emulates Joe to stay in his good graces. Listening to him develop a blaccent over the years is nails on a chalkboard
Yeah .. that's what Mal said
BBB - Business Breaks Brotherhoods 100% of the time
Facts…it’s like that saying “you can’t do or mix business with friends and family.” 💯
I'm with Chad on this one!
✊ right on
Chad is a nice dude
Keep it business, split everything half and half. There should never be no third party entity in a partnership business and endeavors.
Both party management and attorney's, CFO's, CEOs, et al., involved to fix this mess and putting frivolity in the media space rather go talk business and not mess with a friendship and partnership that is benefiting everyone.
If not dissolved the whole entities and nobody can used the names and any and all entities affiliates. Everyone can go do them if this messy mess is not resolved.
damn 2024 got everybody ish being brought to the forefront
Joe, don't ever rock that shit again
Not the Neptunes man
Pharrell trying to do some dirt here
Joe turning up the zest with the gay lone ranger pants
Wrong is wrong
Hope this doesn’t turn into Hall and Oates
Chatty Patty is the wave
I’ve always held Chad over Pharrell even more so after meeting and hanging with them several times.
Pharrell has always been somewhat of a wave rider. His whole skateboard persona and aesthetic came from his brother. Pharrell himself was never a skater like that. Also a lot of his style was influenced by his frequent collaborator Nigo, the founder of Bape. Nigo was also helped create Pharrell’s BBC Ice Cream. I’m not saying Pharrell isn’t creative or he didn’t contribute a good deal to records. But he was definitely more of a face for the people he surrounded himself with.
@@jonjackson2177 I plead the 5th
i think pharrel dumped chad to look straight
@@TheRedgoldenchild “you got that thugin love”
Chad is kinda a musical savant. Pharrell is a marketer & a great producer as well, but He learned a lot from Chad.
Chad was the PLUG
Love Pharrell, but he’s definitely doing that Diddy Industry Sh_t.
There's a reality that for the past like decade+, well over 90% of any "The Neptunes" tracks is Pharrell solo producing. If it isn't NERD or Justin Timberlake, it's pretty much just Pharrell. Check the credits. "P. Williams" is on everything. "C. Hugo" shows up once in a blue moon. This suit is easily the most interest Chad has shown in anything Neptunes related in like 15 years.
Pharrell did it
We need some facts on this too. But hopefully this is more fluff than reality. Just cant see the Neptunes having this simple issue.
chad was pharell teacher it was chad equipment that started the neptunes.
Pharrell production and songs after he left the Neptunes became wack and pop af. I’ll take stuff like “Grindin” and “Super Thug” over “Despicable Me” and “Lucky” any day
Melyssa gurl .. You good , please hurry up and leave these people and start your own thing
Why do you guys say right rhetorically all the time?
What kinda shaman outfit is Joe wearinf