Carmelo Anthony and Andre Iguodala Explain How Ruthless the Business of the NBA Can Get
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Carmelo Anthony and Andre Iguodala have nearly four decades worth of combined NBA experience and they've both witnessed their fair share of ruthless behavior when it comes to the business of the league.
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Iggy out here educating folks
One of the first ones to tell the truth about the playoffs and how the refs will make the game close on purpose
Because he dressed like a school teacher?
@@SirNafurioushe’s always been a smart man
That's not Iggy. That's Furious Styles.
@ToriUptown smart how?
Iguodala and livingston were the best role players we had back at warriors they fed the team pretty well
I love hearing the business of the NBA!!!!!! For some of us, we see where the game is being played
The intangibles conversation is so interesting to me because as a Laker fan, the perception of Jarred Vanderbilt and Dlo completely misses that. Vando struggles as a scorer but defensively he wins games. Dlo is a scorer who has off nights but his presence on the court completely alters defenses and when he gets hot his 2-3 makes turn into 20 point runs. It’s hard to explain that without watching it and i can only imagine how hard it is to prove that when negotiating contracts
Mero laugh at anything and everything... Kind of guy who laughs at a daycare on fire
Yeah Melo would be fine without him
This is one of the most slept on interviews and one of his best guests. They dropped so much gems and the business of basketball. They spoke to it from the players perspective that few have never spoke to
*so many
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This is stuff that the OG players talked about to the younger players on the roster. It wasn't meant to be shared with the fans, becsuse it was none of their business.
No different than the story Charles Barkley said about Dr. J and Moses Malone being straight up with him at the very beginning of his career. Wasn't information they felt they needed to share with the general public.
This young fella wakandan lol 😂
It’s always business no matter what they tell you.
I learned it in Corp America, when I was a young buck and a VP of 30 years got canned.
Everybody expendable. Get your paper UP FRONT in base pay…no exceptions.
“What’s wrong with him I work at meineke”😂😂😂😂😂😂 funniest thing I’ve heard today
They say We family when they want you to stay. Then it’s business when they want to cut you.
What were you expecting them to say?
@@biscaynesupercars this is why players are doing only what’s best for them. In the past the players had more team loyalty.
@@StraightGuyStraightTalk lmao when did they have team loyalty. It’s business. Big multimillion and billion type business. All that emotional “loyalty” bs don’t work in business
I find this a very difficult topic. I understand players want to get paid what they are worth, especially early on in their career. At the same time, if you "settle" for 80% of your worth, the team can sign better players. Boston is the prime example of this: Tatum was still on a cheap deal and that allowed the Celtics to trade for holiday, porzingis and white. The argument that money left on the table goes directly to the owner is falls: most of it goes to building a better team. Maybe i'm too Dutch for this discussion but for me Melo is a prime example of a player who made so much money that his team was never able to contend. What did he bring the Knicks: 1 won playoff series?
@@maartenvz what have the knicks ever done? They didn’t win before Melo and they haven’t won after Melo. People that try to argue this should go to the employer and tell them they want less pay so they can hire more good employees at their job. But nobody would do that so why in the world would you expect an athlete, who has a job and employer like most people, to do that?
Klay is right for wanting more money and Warriors right for giving less. They both can get what they want by looking elsewhere. Win win for both parties. There shouldn't be any hatred towards either..
Klay is garbage lmao
@@jumpman366 no klay no chips. 4 chips bro.
@@leifseed they not paying him for previous years. He’s trash now
@@leifseedcontract is for the next 4 years not the titles he won in the past, cmon this shit is common logic
Warriors are not right. They did bad business and are trying to pay him less than Draymond and he’s not having it
Iggy got mad knowledge. He need to write another book
What these guys are discussing is a GREAT, FANTASTIC initiative. They're showing black athletes how to be responsible and mature with their careers, earnings and lives. I can't applaud this enough. This is GREAT.
mero just be cracking jokes at the wrong time lol
Yea everything don’t have to be jokes
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He be double dutching waiting to crack a joke
He’s wack point blank. Melo should have a better host who knows ball
@@noneyabizz3403 agreed?
I've always said what Dre said "if they paying all these players millions, how much do they have?!". Read up 40 million dollar slave, great book that talks about this topic.
NBA players on average get more of a cut from revenue than other major businesses. For instance, NBA players are getting 50% of the revenue which is really good. Now think about your job and coworkers, you think your job is paying y'all 50% of overall revenue? That almost never happens in business.
I agree with athletes until they start saying they should be paid for what they've done in the past. Contracts are for what you are doing currently and in the future.
Imagine taking a paycut for Billionaires
Imagine Multi-Billion Dollar companies asking you to donate to their needy cause
It should be for your teammates . There’s a salary cap for a reason
@@truthiscensored-
Go buy an NBA franchise and quickly realize just how expensive they are to keep running. You're only going to generate but so much revenue, and every aspect of the team and the fan experience has costs. Air transportation, lodging, and meals for a season is not cheap.
If their budget isn't balanced they don't want to be losing tens of millions a year. Most billionaires don't have it in cash it's in businesses that fluctuate value wildly.
This what happened to Dwade in 2016. Heat wanted to pay that man 10mill he got 16mill but should’ve gotten paid more. He lead the heat to a game 7 against the raptors without Chris Bosh. And the heat organization still didn't think he was worth more. Thats why he left to chicago.
Damn totally forgot about that series
That’s actually not what happened. He agreed with the organization to forgo what he was gonna get paid to allow Lebron and Bosh to come there. Thy agreed that he would get it on the back end next reup with the contract. Miami dishonored the contract and screwed him over. To Their credit, they brought him back and apologized but the damage was done on my eyes. Haven’t watched them since
Stop it The Miami did nothing wrong.
@@Shabeck1 he got it back with interest now by giving up his hole and his "son"
I think they gave him $20 million that year, but they gave CB most of the dough after Bron left, on a longer term contract. But you’re right in that Miami didn’t see D-Wade as a superstar anymore, just a star.
Edit: I think Miami was trying to land KD too, so that was also why they tried to lowball D-Wade.
The money the players get is nothing compared to the owners
Then the players should buy a team 🙄 and pay themselves as owners 🙄
@@JuanMota27 klutch is doing a hostile in la
@@JuanMota27went over your head
@@JuanMota27obviously didn't understand what he said
@@DANGiiMC00L not all the players deserve max money 🙄 that is a FACT
This stuff happens in real life. Coworkers get pissed when their colleagues negotiate for or demand more, or worse, leave for a better position. Not everyone. But too many people like to paint others as greedy, when they know they wouldn't turn it down themselves. It's simply that they are too afraid to demand their worth and I'm not okay with that. My thing is, whether for the average Joe, if your skill is marketable and the company is profiting, you DESERVE to get all you can. Aren't the CEOs and upper execs, and heck the shareholders, doing the same? But it's wrong when a worker wants all that they can reasonably get based on the market and competition.
💯 % Facts on your statement!
This is why I don’t take people seriously that crap on stars for switching teams in free agency.
man I hope these young athletes are watching this!
I like how players speak about these business situations, like normal people don't deal with it real life for way less money 😅
It’s always funny to me too . They are literally top .0000001% of earners 😅😅😅😅
Normal people are the only ones who act as if players shouldn’t make smart business decisions .
@@d-rocontopexactly lmao on top of that these clowns dont even be negotiating in real life. They let boss do whatever then got the nerve to speak on NBA players 🤣
@@jumpman366facts😂😂
@@jumpman366🎯
Yall forget Klay got paid 100m for three years and he didn’t even play
That last sales speech from Andre Won Me and Melo Over 😆
The NBA makes and breaks players. Melo definitely deserved Rookie of the Year. They also called fouls on Melo for the same defense LJ used and never got fouls called on him. If the whistle is always blown on you vs. the whistle hardly ever being blown on you…..eventually your style of play will change. That was done by design and nobody can ever tell me otherwise
fax 📠
Have you seen Melo’s defense? It looks like he’s doing karate lol. Ain’t no way bro
And Melo got his team from 17 win season, the previous year, to the playoffs his rookie year.
No the fuck he didn't. That Nuggets roster was way better than that Cavs team. Melo would have won 20 games with Lebrons roster.
@@ocampbell1954 Was he on the team? Then he helped get them there. GTFO here with the noise.
Y'all are giving money lessons to viewers, "see we didn't come from backgrounds where you knew this stuff," then telling the Meineke guys "you can make your ten dollars $1000" smh
Andre looking like the only 6'6" accountant in the world.
my all time biggest crushes : melo and iggy🥰 thank you lawd!
The world of professional sports is ruthless in general. You don't get what you think you deserve, but what you have the leverage to negotiate
Klay has been well compensated by the Warriors His production is down and he's 34 He's simply not worth the contract he wants going forward
Keep the same energy when you don't get a raise relative to what you think it should be at your place of work and I'll believe you...
Imagine your employer tells you THE EXACT SAME THING you are telling Klay Thompson and relative to YOUR JOB:
You've been as successful / integral to them as Klay had been to the Warriors.
@@greatone8841they've been loyal to Klay. They paid him nearly the max while he was injured. He's been massively overpaid the last few years
@@greatone8841 it is not relative. In what job do you get $60m while not being on the job for two years? He was massively compensated while he was out, then paid a top percentile when his production dropped drastically, so they are now asking him to take less.
remember the money they gave up while he sat the bench injured for hella long. 🤔
@@greatone8841klay is trash…
The Lakers are the gold standard for taking care of aging stars, not GS.
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Didn’t think Melo was that much bigger than him…😅
It's the field of view of the camera. It always looks like that.
Pause
@@cedarianmincy133weird
@@cedarianmincy133nah ain't no pause. Full sus. Man swangin.
Crazy thing is….. Andre was a Superstar caliber player before going to the Warriors. He got rings but gave up stardom to do it.
Mmmhhh no. Good player
Great role player … ginobli level.. definitely not a star
He was a star in Philly. Made the All Star before Denver where he helped them to a record 57-25 finish at the time. He wasn’t just a ‘role’ player.
@@TheMostHeavenlyOnecasual for sure.
He couldnt lead the 76ers he fell short l should know thats the team l root for since 1996
I heard Gilbert arenas say one of the craziest things he learned in the NBA, was that dudes who came off the bench would pass up open shots because they needed there field goal or three-point percentage to be at a certain number so they wouldn't take any shots that they did bad shots because they knew a couple million extra dollars is on the line if they made sure their percentages and their numbers were at a certain point. That's crazy to me.
so rutheles lol , yal get paid like regular dudes never will in 100 lifetimes , and we dont call our jobs that , still we can get fired any second without no player option , STOP CAP
I would watch more with a different co-host
Also those people OWN the media, so they can put out any narrative they want.
By the the time the player make a social media post to defend themselves, the narrative about them has already spread like wildfire
I was roccin until they brought up Klay, we gotta stop actin like he’s still 2017 Klay,he’s been injury prone these last couple years and he’s going into year 14. Shell of the defender he used to be but still put up solid numbers. If I was a GM he wouldn’t get the max from either but he would get a star contract forsure. To be fair he’s at the tail end of his career.
I’m confused tho. Klay deserves what at this point in his career? Realistically
Them 2, were 2 of the best.
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But if you're a declining player, can you really ask for a lot more? I can understand a raise and such, but a max contract for someone who isn't producing what he used to and is going to be benched more? I find that's a hard argument to make. I'm not saying I'm right or anything.. help me understand because it's different for us normal folks who may never see a million in their life time lol
Iggy is not a smart man😂😂😂 You should read a book. 😂
He fell for the NFT scams too and was promoting them like he worked for herbalife 😂
wth. unlike people in the real world, these nba players have guaranteed contracts. Imagine if you work in the real world and you don’t perform, you get fired and don’t get anymore payments. In the nba when a player signed contracts, these contracts are guaranteed and if they don’t perform and help their teams win, they just get traded to another team and still get pay. What the hell are they complaining about? Stop being whining babies, try to get jobs in the real world like other people then you will be how blessed you are!
Melo was the one who said Lin’s contract was ridiculous.
Would love. to hear the announcement that Carmelo Anthony is joining the Players Association and helping out Andre Iguodala and the other Vets making the league something even more special
Iggy was the turning point for the warriors
GSW already gave Klay his max as he was rehabbing. For him to act like he was beibg disresoected now is crazy.
Everyone does this with money. No matter where you working. It’s these companies who low ball the ppl who making them money
Screw equipment manager, not his business how much u make. What he makes dont affect no one, why worry bout his bag. Odd
Imo, the 💰 isn’t the issue, it’s the years. Klay secured $60M+ during the 2 years he was out w/ injuries. Then got $40M+ this past season. Being a Warrior fan, n having seen this dynasty get built from the beginning, I would hate to c him go. Hope a deal gets done sooner rather than later. It is a business at the end of the day tho. 😪
Klay is gone bro
We’re going to take good care of him down here in the big D! He got a chip on his shoulders too!
Fans are really hurting Klay. Imagine how many elimination game tweets they can pull up. People don’t even realize how that’s being used against him right now
The fans didn’t cause him to go 0-10 in an elimination game. He did that to himself.
Klay is done.
@@cyberft so you throw away 8yrs and 4 championships for one game and loss?..after getting the warriors from the mud to this place?
@@timothykinoti7768 he’ll have a statue in front of the area one day, but right now we’re talking about moving forward. Dude thinks he should be paid handsomely and put up a 0 in a must win contest.
@@cyberftwould you want to face him when he’s hot?
When players becomes old, the value decreases. Trophies/achivement means nothing if you cant do it in a year or two.
Tobias harris negotiated the hell out of his contracts then🤣
Jason Tatum is a lucky guy to have a player like Jalen Brown in his corner
Did I just find my newest favourite podcast?
Counting another man’s $ is a sin..worry about yourself & your pocket lining..
Money isn't real. It's a system of control based on our belief in it. That said, take as much as you can if you have a skillset and knowledge base that warrants it. I'm all for it. Take it from the disgustingly rich man.
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I would have told the equipment manager “Stay in your lane, you will never get to this level or reside in the same tax bracket as me@
Well the media broadcast their salaries for the world to see. It is not like their pay is kept secret behind closed door.
TV shows literally have segments discussing these guys salaries for the entire world to see
@@truthiscensored does that mean you worried about another man’s pocket, or is other things in your life that you worry about?
Its hard to fight for Klay. He’s not the same and thats the bottom line.
Any business out there can be ruthless.
It suc$s when loyalty is one-sided in ANY relationship. I’m not mad at KD or any player who makes a decision HE (she) thinks is right for HIM (her).
I'm all for players getting every dime they deserve. However, Melo wanted both every dime he could get and a supporting cast. That doesn't work. His agent went to James Dolan to trade necessary assets to ensure he could enforce his Bird rights. Kudos, get your money. That didn't help the team, though, and was one of the reasons why Donnie Walsh left.
Few scenarios and organizations can pay their talent top dollar and have a great supporting cast. Bob Meyers from Golden State was great at it. Once he saw where Golden State was going, he was out.
That's the nature of the business. The players' union should negotiate a better salary/luxury tax.
1:16 That's FUCKING AMAZING, especially when his trade felt totally wrong to me, glad he could give his all for them.
Always a great listening experience when Dre talks. Miss seeing him in the league but looks like he killing it post NBA
Why does Kid Mero looks like the pizza guy Chris Hansen caught lmao
Iggy the smartest athlete in this generation fasho
Unfortunately, I’d be surprised if Klay comes back…it’s business
Injuries have plagued him and they want to go back to the championship…it’s a risk. He need to holla at Kirk Cousins lawyer/agent
im pretty sure Iggy was a superstar during his sixers years
If i was klay I would retire take my.bag and walk away
This is the most real business conversation I’ve heard applied. Applies to everything!!!
Iggy def unselfish teammate but knew limitations. Always thought Melo what ifs, drafted by Detroit. Klay already got 100 million from GS, dont see if he use that business is cut throat
That third guy just needs to shut up and let them talk
Iggy was huge for the Warriors Ship run
Klay will always be one of my inspirations
This is dope as fuck and insightful
Problem lies with salary cap . When melo took that massive 5 year deal he was worth every penny but if he takes less money you get another all star on that team .. dwade bron and bosh took less to make it happen .. if you take the max and don’t have other players with bird rights to go over your not going to win
Y'all made millions dribbling a ball playing a game....I don't think you have anything to complain about....
They've been idolized since 15, they don't live in the same world as everyone else , so any type of inconvenience is ruthless to them
melo getting rid of JLin, ruthless
I keep that 9 on me / Ala Iguodala..- Fabolous
are those glasses they're wearing functional? just curious
Iggy and those new teeth in his mouth seem to be having a conflict of interest
Lebron gave them the Blue print
Melo “co - host” got to go
Heat Legend Iggy
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Igoudala has a Finals MVP
Nah this pod is universal life lessons bro 🔥 whether you a hooper or just somebody trying to navigate your career. 🙏🏾
Iggy and Melo....heaven. Leaders that you'll never realise why. Good men. I pray I'm not wrong
AI looking like he just got done speaking on behalf of his client lol...great interview
It’s top dollar pimping.
How many rings melo had ?
Rings >>>>> scoring award
They Call ☎️ Him Ring💍🖖-Less Melo⭐️💁🤣lolz
I respect Iggy even more 💯
To the younger fans … watch iggy on the sixers… that man was him
I don’t know. Were the warriors able to offer Klay 35 per year with the new CBA rules. I didn’t think that were possible because of the repeater tax
Yah people's forget that Klay help GSW to get 4 rings in 11 season he got 2 season injured but they still talking bout that one elimination game he got 0-10, the way he looked around the Stadium after that game damn and I'm telling the world now GSW era is over even if they won a Championship Ring it will be in far Future. It's the people that drive him away from Warriors
I got igoudala book ima start reading it soon
Mero has to chill and just listen sometimes. Lol
Ion even watch the show but him talking making me Nvr wanna watch it😂😂
Loving an NBA player is like loving a baddie. They wanna be in LA Poppin bottles and I’m in Cleveland. We know you won’t be here your whole life. We just hate when the time comes
2:20 It's more money then you'll ever use it, like WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU FIGHT SO MUCH FOR THAT??? Especially while being already rich!!!! You put the team in a bad position to become stronger if you only focus on yourself, it's like in Somalia with egocentric people killing to be the least poor person in the place or to choose a poor dictatorship over a very productive democracy.
This is why Lebron James is who he is. He taught young black men in the NBA that he is not afraid of Owners! He left the Cavaliers they hated him. Folks turned on him! Look at him now with all the hate he is a Billionaire! Imagine listening to is Haters/Talking Heads. As for Klay he should never pocket watch. Steph took a pay cut he made $12m a year. He said he spoke to is Wife they agreed. (Yet Folks hate is Wife). He said he never pocket watch. Klay and Draymond made more than Steph. So what's the problem with Klay? How he forget? Good luck to him we shall see him next season. Going to be fun the only player who have done well after they left the Warriors is in New York!😂💙💙💙❤❤
It ain’t ruthless at all. If the average person gets demoted they go from 100k to 50k or fired. NBA player goes from making 20 mil to 10-12mil. Your productivity dictates your salary. The dude Williams from Chicago just got 5yrs 90 mil and he’s a bum
Andre is telling the biggest lie that they can’t negotiate deals . Lamar Jackson’s mother just negotiated a hundred multimillion deals stop getting strangers paid when you can get your love ones the game
Bro that was a giving.
7:20 Yes, Carmelo it is a different pot of money. When your options are generational wealth vs. *MORE* generational wealth, it's a little hard for the common man to bring out the violins, when they're just fighting to be able make enough to rent a 1-bedroom apartment. Boo-hoo, you lost out on 20 million on your current contract, and your fallback is making 60x what the average American makes in their entire life. FOH