Gilbert Arenas Explains How NBA Referees CHEAT
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2023
- Gilbert Arenas Reveals How NBA Referees CHEAT as Gil's Arena dives under the nails of the NBA and reveals all the secrets they don't want you to know about. They explain how NBA games were fixed during the Tim Donaghy Scandal and why there are still MANY Referees out there doing the same thing.
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The fact players get fined for criticizing refs at the post game conference let you know everything you need to know
They arent actually getting fined tho cuz they are part of the script... The fines are all part of the scripted show you are watching
@@whydouneedaknosome of those foos go broke like Antwan Walker or however u spell his name from the Celtics, so that was part of the script also? No jodas voz
@@neweramusicent.Players going broke and criticizing refs are two different things. Wtf r u even talking about 😆
@@Stillaways2go oh my gosh! Daddy chill!
you have to be a bot@@whydouneedakno
Gil NAILED IT on the Scott Foster/CP3/Suns situation. Foster should have been nowhere near that series. His presence in pivotal games makes the league look highly suspect.
They can’t tell him no, the refs have a Union, he has seniority and can pick which games he wants to ref
So what happened in the games that Scott Foster didn’t ref and CP3 was still turning the ball over and blowing leads
@@leetraviusmckay2919 How are you missing the point this badly
@SUPREMELYTrill he's doing what a lot of fans do when cp3 is brought up lol. They dont know how to speak about him without taking a shot or criticizing him.
@@SUPREMELYTrill I didn’t miss the point I know these refs are ganky, but put some blame on these players for their play and accountability
"I know he's Michael Jordan but that was a foul"
-Charles Barkley
Whistle-tech on sir Charles.
Its even bigger now … with Fanduel legal … nasty
Yeah, when the refs start calling travelling and illegal screens against only 1 team, especially starting in the 3rd quarter it’s too obvious
Can you explain I’m out the loop
@@fiaellesshow9001 ok buddy could’ve easily just made it simple or an example
@@lilashtonvert9051ignore the bots...you'll be better off for it
🎯🎯🎯
THE REALEST NBA TAKE EVER. NOT ENOUGH PLAYERS TALK ABOUT THIS
Yes but in a hypothetical world where no referee scandal existed..... Players and fans would be having this exact same conversation because we're conditioned to think that any human decisions are corruptible. I wouldn't be shocked if a league wide referee scandal existed, but I don't think there's enough proof out there to say that it's likely. We have some massive, reputable news organizations in this country that would love nothing more than to break this story.
It's not that the players don't talk about it, if they DO talk about it, then they get fined a ridiculous amount of money
There's a step before all that, and that is: hold the refs accountable, make them answer to the media, ask them questions about specific calls like they ask the players after every game. The problem right now is that nobody's allowed to question the refs or call out their mistakes and that's a position of power, that leads them to behave like they do and call techs on every complaint
Media availability would be a horrible idea only because it opens the door for them to be talent instead of just employees. If I’m expected to be on tv & talk, you’re going to have to pay me more money because now you’re elevating me from just a official to a part of the show.
The nba itself is in on the rigging. Thats why they r covering for the refs.
@@slimthugga1 as if refs don't deserve to get paid more they make game decisioning calls when it matters. believe they should make more with also having post game interviews cuz some of these techs they be giving out are straight pitiful
@@slimthugga1 well that signals a money issue, which leads us to what Gil is talking about. If a ref gets a months-worth of pay for tilting the scoreboard in the betters' favor with questionable calls, he's only gonna do it because it's a boatload of money for them. If they make progressive pay like players do based on performance and obviousle games reffed, they'll have less incentive to take the "dirty" money
@@d1pz9 it’s not a money issue, it’s a “why would I do that?” The NBA literally has no reason to do it. There’s a reason why no sports league in the world does it.
Gil all imma say is watch yo back Dawg cuz you speaking to many facts 💯
I was thinking the same thing you gotta be careful frfr this is real life …
🔥 segment tho ❤️
"This Ni@@a smart, this ni@@a smart". Love him or hate him, we all should be thankful that Gil has a RUclips channel. Straight dimes.
“I’m not gonna collude on it” got me in tears Lmaoo … these Niggas be high and just throwing out words lmao
🤣🤣🤣had me tripping too
😂😂
Yeah he didn't even use the word collude correctly 😅.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
i was thinking the same shit!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s goes a lot deeper than what they’re choosing to elaborate on. And this most definitely isn’t just happening in the NBA. Whether you’re a die hard or a casual, you have to be logical and realize that collegiate and pro sports are businesses first and foremost. The next priority is the entertainment aspect, and the last is competition. Don’t be delusional fools.
Yes sir we are not watching a sport we are watching sports entertainment no different than wwf
The NBA has a BRAND to covet. The NBA think-tank committee has a mission to create an image that will increase revenue. The NBA will never expose the distasteful part of the League as a whole. e.g. A hot-dog vendor will never tell the customer that the real ingredients in the hot-dog will increase your chances of developing intestinal parasites. 😢
@@theplusmyness there is a history of shady shit going down with the nba, and under david stern you had that referee that got caught by the fbi for rigging games, and in court he claimed the nba often tried to extend series to 7 games, and specificly mentioned a couple series where he was told by the league or referee commision to call fouls on certain players. I.e 2005 first round series rockets vs dallas where he claimed he was told by the league to call more fouls on yao specificly on screens to ruin the rockets pick and roll game. Some say it was because of mark cuban whining, some say it was to extend the series. You also have that thing about not giving allen iverson fouls and try to ruin games for him and antagonize him. Its all from the same ref that got caught. the league and david stern came out and said it was all bs tho. Up to you on who to believe. But I think david stern retired as commisioner not long after.
If da 2 yrs of da saints not gettin bad pass interference kalls doesn't open yur eyes, I don't know wat will.
@@earnieb35bro that still kills me to this day. I’m not even a Saints fan but the Saints were clearly the best team in the league during that run.
I think Gil is accurate and it gives us a different perspective on how the refs could easily change the course of games without being biased towards a particular team.
In the case of Scott Foster and Chris Paul, I had no idea it was like that. That's dirty. Still, pros need to be held accountable for their performance. At the same time, so do referees
Nba has always been rigged. Always.
@@ibashcommunists6847sports are rigged. They're made for entertainment
@@ibashcommunists6847so you think it's been rigged since the beginning?
@@the_dark_knight5140 anything that involves gambling can be rigged. Just like the world series of baseball in the 1920s. Nba is meant to distract the ignorant masses from whats really important.
Kobe n Shaq Lakers should have lost twice Portland n the Kings they cheated hard
I love how he said all that and a sports betting AD comes on at the end 😂
Gotta pay the bills😂. At least he talked about it
The craziest thing is that the NBA refs are worst than WWE refs 😂
this man thinks wrestling is a sport and not a scripted show💀💀💀
@antekpyzel2599 Some people say the nba is scripted. 🤔
This whole segment is showing how the refs rig it. Not much difference really.
@@antekpyzel2599 it’s still real to me lol
But no what I’m saying doesn’t really make sense on surface level but if you think about it WWE “refs” are the third part of the team working the match together and they all work it. While nba refs go into business for themselves, not following the script or making their own.
@@1Flyingfist Right sadly.
@@antekpyzel2599it is just like sports.
The is the first authentic conversation about sports. The athlete's are constantly called out and interviewed and questioned about their performances but refs are treated like cops. No accountability.
The fact that betting is so commonplace now and you DON'T hear NBA talk more about the things Gil suggested is suspect.
It's crazy how The betting sites get advertising during games lol...
@@TheThinkingMansTemplar THAT there is the biggest sign of rigged games.
@@dazeja we all should know this . DONT SLEEP FOLKS
I love how they keep "accidentally" saying Scott Foster lmfao. They know what they're doing
Another example of refs fixing games is when Draymond was ejected from game 3 for stomping on Sabonis, but Embiid wasn’t ejected for kicking Claxton the very next day in their game 3.
Dray built a reputation bro. Joel hasn’t..
reputation shouldn't have shit to do with a rule
It's not about the rule.
They're attempting to stop the behavior.
With repeating violations, punishments need to escalate. (this isn't just in basketball or other sports, this is how it is with the justice system and even at home.. "1 belt spanking didn't work, now you're getting 3. And harder."
Gil knew what he doing calling out Foster's name 😂😂😂😂
they still cheat. these refs call the softest fouls, techs, and flagrants.
Rewatch the Warriors/Lakers series, those fouls were ridiculous
No fucking doubt !!! Its so blatant, it’s fucking ridiculous
Embiid and Giannis are like the golden boys. Breathe on them and it's a foul.
@@tommyharper1262016 finals Warriors should’ve won it
Scott Foster was the ref that Donaghy was calling the most during his rigging days. But till this day Tim doesn't want to snitch on his friend, so it's let go. Scott, Tony Brothers, Kenny Mauer, and Steve Javie are the head refs now. Silver is probably afraid that they'll expose decades of rigging and betting if he fires them. So there's no hope.
You got it wrong. The nba itself is the mastermind of the rigging. Refs just follow orders from the commish.
Bro I hate to break it to you but Steve Javie hasn't been a ref since the 2010-2011 season.
@@TheGrumpyKeen Steve Javie is the guy they throw to in the booth whenever there's a 50-50 call. He's still head of officiating.
@@chikowashere No. He works for ESPN as an analyst. He gives his commentary on calls during the game when the broadcast wants insight from an EX NBA referee. He doesn't work for the NBA anymore and hasn't for over 12 years.
@@TheGrumpyKeen Neat, as if getting one name wrong invalidates anything I said. RUclips.
This man understands how Vegas works and what's going on behind the scenes. If you bet an over 212 in an NBA game, but the refs are going to give 4-5 "bonus" points because they're on the over as well, your odds of winning can be closer to 60-65% which prints money over the long term.
Cheating from referees will never stop because the NBA doesnt allow people within the organization to talk about it.
Any NBA player, or personnel that is remotely associated with the organization, even if they are an "analyst" on one of the many broadcast shows, are not allowed to outright talk about it or else they could be fined or their parent company could risk being blacklisted from anything associated with the NBA. Thats why whenever you DO hear someone talking about the league, be it a former player or something they are doing it with their own personal podcast that isnt NBA affiliated. But players are not allowed to challenge, question, or even bring up tampering by the refs otherwise they will face fines and penalties. Even when Mark Cuban tried to bring up tampering, the analyst were quick to cover it up and say it wouldnt have mattered either way if the challenge had been called or reversed. And he was later fined for it too. The fact that refs have the only say and cannot be questioned is insane. Even when you have one challenge play, its almost never called, and when it is how likely is the decision to be reversed? Not very.
Bottom line, you should be allowed to challenge ref calls. Until then the problem will always exist.
This is why Dallas won the championship, they made mark a deal, keep your mouth shut and you’ll get a trophy 🏆
@wrxrob2589 which LeBron threw in 2011. Crazy people think he "choked" like these are middle school kids😂 Jordan was almost never rigged against; LeBron and Kobe were a bunch
This is what is known as a "cartel". All sports are the same.
“Scott foster beeen caught”😂😂😂😂
Faul on Jimmy butler in game 5 was so obvious that they tried everything to prolong series
In game 5 of which series? In the Bucks' series, Jimmy pushed Connaughton to tie the game in the last few seconds.
@@CleanMusicLover229 in Denver last game, faul on 3 point shot
Also the increased parity in the league is ideal as well with legalized gambling. Adam Silver is the perfect puppet for this new era.
This is very accurate. Especially with the referee that's a well known Boston Celtics fan with the Twitter burner. He definitely pissed off somebody in the top brass because it's not just him either that's made some shady calls.
i think his name is Eric Lewis
A lot of good that's done my C's lol
I think I can speak for some of us [in the comment section] who tune into this show regularly and say, We've been waiting on Gil to speak on this topic forever since he started this show!!! Thank you! 🧨
Also since he played while Tim donaughy was reffing
You cant just put it all on the refs. The rules are designed for the refs to get away with it and not be questioned. 27 trips to the free throw line in the 4th qtr of the 2002 playoff game between Sacramento and L.A. is flat out planned.
Its just to me that the smallest markets in the NFL have consistently had better draft choices and better in game calls at the exact same time that the stadiums so many American cities needed complete renovation. Mark my words. The largest nfl market by a landslide will suck in recruiting and wins until ticket prices are stable for the franchises of the smallest markets renovation both their stadiums and surrounding venues the profit the cities owners and NFL.
@@rhyno8644 Bro dallas is gonna suck forever 😂
Yep, been waiting for evidence to prove the 2012 Finals was rigged in the Heats favor. That’s the only reason KD and Westbrook got so many fouls. Of all the playoff series KD has ever played, that 2012 Finals was the only series where he had 20 or more fouls. And the series only went 5 games. He’s played 12 series with 6 or 7 games and in none of them series has he had more than 19 fouls. It was totally rigged.
@@TR-ju5re You ever notice that publicly the owner is always on the side of the players but he never recruits the best trouble makers. Dallas makes more money off merchandise than almost any professional sports franchises in the world. Jerry doesnt need to win.
They're not cheating. They're following a script. The rabbit hole goes deep!
They can’t say that thou
Nah.. they're cheating and making people a lot money.
Cheating is a Business.
And business is booming.
Don't overthink yourself to death MrALICE & Wonderland.
Stop trying to follow the White Rabbit into that Hole.
Finally someone shed a light on a such non talked about problem !!!! Becareful fellas because there watching !
Gil, the channel is blowing up, I'm so glad you've listened to our comments. This should become the number one basketball channel and eventually sports channel overall in time..
what we’re the comments if you don’t mind me asking? As someone new, i’m curious the adjustments he made? This episode was great
Thx 4 the insight GA.
Can't help but notice that underdog fantasy is the prime sponsor.
Subbing for the honesty and transparency. 💯 Also, Gilbert smart AF. Very good at explaining things and not treating audience like children.
Well said right off the bat, and it's obvious. Yet people think that just because Donaghy fell on the sword, then that's it. People still think that he's either a lone wolf, or just because he said one series is rigged by him then no other series was.
Yea the refs do be rigging the games for the favor of the Vegas bets, the worse no call to me this season was when Tatum CLEARLY fouled Bron on his wrist and ref was right there and he didn’t call nothing🤦🏽♂️, then it’s like when refs officiate poorly, they never get questioned about it or nothing
Bruh damn leave Bron out the comments lol he get favorable calls stop it
Nba has always been rigged.
@@grandmarquice3655 he doesnt and they actually had the numbers to prove it esp for someone who drives to the rim. But I do agree to leave Bron out of this.
Was looking directly at it.
@@chris.t.389 I'm talkin about for his career.. I seen him travel endless times or run ppl over and they don't call charging ever.. we gotta be honest ppl I been watching Bron since 03 fellaz lol.. this version of Lebron doesn't get the same calls like he did in his prime but he definitely benefited from favorable refereeing in his career
Take that for data!! Great conversation!!
This is the first time. I’ve ever heard a sports show talk about this. Keep up the great work!!!
Get Tim donaghy on the pod!!!!
ESPN did a huge article on this and goes in depth with how Stern moved to avoid the rest of the refs being looked into.
sheesh, gotta look for that article
@@royernyc4995 Scott Eden wrote it. I just searched ‘ESPN nba referee story’ and it popped right up.
Glad yal said it 💪🏿💯good sht fellas 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wait a min, is oh buddy in all black supposed to be Martin from the episode with the dog 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m so weak
It’s been ruled in court that Sports Entertainment businesses such as the NBA and NFL have no legal or contractual obligation to put on a “competitive” product. Their only contractual obligation is to provide a game or “event” for the ticketholders and advertisers to be party to. Technically they could rig every game and predetermine every outcome like a dance recital without any legal repercussions. And now that sports betting is legalized, you can guarantee they are rigging outcomes to maximize profits from betting bc they know they won’t get into any legal trouble for doing so…
Funny how they're talking about refs can affect over/unders of total points and right at the end they have an ad on betting 😂
One of if not the best discussion on the show!!! Thank you for the content
Mike Tyson broke down in his book about Cus D'amato how the mob owned and controlled boxing and were fixing championship fights. The case went all the way up to the supreme court to try and dissolve the mob monopoly in boxing. Those guys didn't just disappear.
Shit Sonny Liston was a Mob fighter
They never went away they just rebranded and changed their name. It's called the UFC and boxing commission now.
Gil's explanation is very believable. I doubt enough people will careless until their favorite team loses by a bad call. We got all the conspiracy theorists and skeptics complaining about rigging, yet the NBA is thriving as if these people don't exist. These people are wasting their time trying to convince people why they shouldn't watch the NBA. It's like telling people who eat McDonalds how bad their food is. People consume whatever the hell they wanna consume. People watch what they wanna watch. It's not that people don't know how bad things are...they just don't care as long as they are entertained. It's pretty much empty logic at this point.
The problem is that the NBA itself also has an interest in creating certain outcomes. While day of notice will definitely keep the gamblers and bookies out of it, but there is nothing to stop the front office from putting their thumb on the scale. Also, personal grudges like the Scott Foster situation are going to screw teams too.
“I’m not gonna collude on it” -Mccants
Lol
Tony Brothers definitely should be talked about when these types of topics comes up. He does it so obviously with his calls/no calls & ejections. 💯
Protect Gil at all cost…..
Shut upppp 😂😂 he talks about bball 🤦🏻♂️
Naw for real❤
bro the foul that jimmy got on the 3 in game 5 where he kicked aaron gordon and it was a foul on gordon was so blatantly trying to extend the series
Love this SHOW!!!! Pure Honesty
The Truth just "slipped" with that Scott Foster
I mean everytime I've seen Tony brothers, Eric Lewis, Scott foster, the games looks pretty weird just to say something but the games ain't moving how it's supposed to be moving.
i mean the way the nba waits until 6 o clock to release injury report is enough evidence for me to say its rigged
Now this facts need to go more deep and how brotherhood is in the NBA
Nastiest part of the vid is it being brought to us by underdog 😂😂
What about the players point shaving like when KD did vs the Warriors in 2016 allegedly. When he was one foot out of the door communicating with warriors all season prior to that decision made
I know this isn’t the first time Gil has thrown it out there but having refs learn about the game the day of is wild lol
Bruh telling a man yea I’ll let you know where you goin later meanwhile everyone else get to make plans
Not to mention, having refs regional can be seen as them being hometown refs and having biases. The NBA wants refs to be seen as neutral and not favoring teams. Regional refs will create a whole new dynamic to the outcome of games and make the refs living in a certain area more liable to favoring the home team since their own economic interests are local. That’s not smart at all!
@@Top_o_da_foodDChain Vegas sports goons will just get a bag to ALL the regional refs for a particular game.
@@liveyalife08 lol yup. For sure! The only way around it is to have a rating system for refs. After every game, the officials should be reviewed and given a percentage grade of accuracy. The NBA will never do that though. They want full control, in as much as they can get away with.
That just will have to be the nature of the job to combat cheating. What’s more important, refs being able to make plans or the integrity of the game?
Great video
Maaaaaaan how long until the next season? yall was getting me through.
I believe these refs are forced to make certain decisions to sway vegas odds
not vegas,,,, the commissioner,
I’m sure the commissioner gets thousands to tell his refs what to do
@@italianwaterice9594 so you think the commisoner cares who wins or loses?
@@the_dark_knight5140Yeah, if he doesn't want accidents to happen to the people he cares about. 👀
Forced??? Nah they ain’t forced
Refs are the police force of sports. They have their own “shield” of protection.
That was a really great idea Gil. Hopefully Silver hears you. Reffing is fn up the game. They literally dictated the whole playoffs last season.
When do we talk about magnets? The fact that sometimes the ball goes in and out in REALLY weird, unnatural ways
Gil has definitely studied the game in itself just like how kobe did,when it came to analyzing other players and the nba alone
Gilbert is a threat to the NBA mafias... The man has insight into the ebb and flow of the game
As such, I'd be very careful if I were him.
I'll never forget the movie 'Eight Men Out' and the story of the Chicago Black Sox. Great movie, if anyone hasn't seen it, but in the first minute of McCants talking, that movie was all I could think about...💯
This needs to be addressed more the nba players association should put this in the bargaining agreement!
Scott Foster 100% Tony Brothers about 80% and Mark Davis 90%
Take da crown off . Imo
Much respect for them speaking on this even if we only getting just the tip of the iceberg
There is so much heat in this clip. The Logistical IQ was on full display here
So if a team for example he used the suns and the Scott foster situation with Chris Paul. So if the suns refused to play if he was the ref would that end up being a forfeit? Because myself personally if I seen that I’d assume the same thing that they was trying to fuck us over and shift the possible outcome of the series and for it to be in the Finals is ridiculous.
Pay the refs A LOT more and they are less susceptable to bribes. Also keep them accountable for their calls, behind the scenes, so they keep their payouts.
The referee in question actually said that every single person in the NBA who was somebody was part of it!
Watch the play-in game between the wolves and the lakers.
KAT was ROLLING and got placed into foul trouble by some 50/50 calls that could have gone either way.
The amount of questionable calls that changed the momentum for the lakers was absurd that night.
some of those were fouls fr, and then the wolves started bricking shots
Miami heat being massive underdogs (despite playoff success) and the oppposing team getting +30 free throws is no coincidence. Nba, Vegas working together to rig shit
How people can't see this is beyond me. Considering y'all's plug, much respect for that take, Gil.
brandon - giving the martin lawerance vibes with the dog too
The region won’t help . If a region has 30 refs all you need is 10 in your pocket to hit every night because the NBA uses 3 refs per game.
He's saying if they don't know what game they're reffing until the latest possible time it takes a lot off the ability to rig it
refs need to be fined too !
if the ref does some bull shit like give a T for a player staring at him.... that ref needs to be fined like half his wages for the game or some shit like that.
Excellent explanation and examples of how, why and who is cheating in basketball. Any explanations on you tube of the cheating in football?
They have a "Rowdy" dog? Classic!
McCants started his statement strong & told it clearly
The only issue with regionally reffed games is it'll be easier to see who's reffing in what area and then it'll be too easy to see how consistent those lines hit. NBA needs that parity when it comes to making sure games don't get caught.
Absolutely some Legit Topics. There should be a Ref Ranking System for all the public to see.
Talk about the magnets in the rim too.
Lmmfao
my co-worker swear there is a magnet in the rim
This is the first time in my 23 years of living i have ever heard magnets in the rim lol
Lmao. Delusuional ass. Stfu
Trill Spill as usual…Got to appreciate Real Basketball Conversation.
"I'm not going to collude on it." 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Eric Lewis Gotta a burner account 😂😂😂😂😂
Glad you mentioned Foster specifically. I always get worried when hes reffing. If you google him, shows his nickname the fixer. Makes sense
To be honest, the NBA needs to step up and pay, just to reduce the enticement! $20,000? Might need to get these guys on a salary that pays like a teacher's pay schedule.
Nba has always been rigged.
Facts
They said 200,000 for new refs, and 500,000 for vets. The 20,000 number thrown out was for the illegal offers bookies might make on a per game basis.
Hahaha Brandon got the black on wit the rott line Martin 😂
Oh I been waiting on this…
Time for AI to take over refs and level the playing field.
They’ll just program them for a certain outcome
Gilbert Arenas just explained how the Cavs came back from being down 3 -1 in the Finals and why the Lakers shot 483 more free throws in these 2023 playoffs the first two rounds.
I've been saying this and called a hater. Thank you gil
@@bryrashad This is how you can tell between casual idiots and ppl who actually watch the game. You my friend understand bball.
@@bryrashad that's not true AD stayed his ass near the three line for most of the playoffs. I remember all the experts pissed cuz he would not work inside out. Especially against jokic
@@bryrashad as of now yes
😂😂😂😂😂
One of the best takes, that critiques the league while providing legit solutions.
man said i’m not gonna collude on it
As a gambler of stats I can tell you these guys aren’t alone. Jokic is literally the god of stat padding and getting the over on everything when he wants to. Some nights I’ve seen this man stop just after getting the over on assists and then move to rebounds and get zero assists in a whole half. Can’t tell me it’s not rigged
😊😊
I’ve seen jimmy butler be on the court and not playing basketball plenty of times lol
@@dontmindme4197facts, Demar Derozan too, mf would literally be out there doing cardio and the next night he dropping 40 lol
We in the era of social media if a ref is questionable twitter will bring shit to the light. When they cut to the replay center no matter what the call is Steve Javie says it was a good call.
Most people that watch the nba now are casuals, they wouldn’t call out anything