Fan Debate Old Firm Special | with Ally McCoist, Chris Sutton and fans from Rangers and Celtic
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- We're pleased to bring you a special episode of The Overlap Fan Debate featuring Ally McCoist, Chris Sutton, and fans from both Glasgow teams discussing the upcoming Scottish Cup semi-final between Rangers and Celtic.
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00:00-21:35 Scottish Cup Preview and Club Analysis
21:35-35:18 Ally McCoist and Chris Sutton recall Old Firm Derby experiences
35:18-53:27 Ally McCoist and Chris Sutton share Scottish Cup memories and score predictions 
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In danger of diluting the Old Firm brand by having calm, sensible and articulate fans on display. For the next one, I think the panel should be randomly selected from the streets of Ardrossan and Coatbridge, and fired up on free Buckie and Mad Dog for a few hours prior to filming.
Love it and a live stream 😂
Every sectarian slur you have to do a shot they missed a trick here 😂
As a Celtic fan, I have respect for Ally as a commentator and pundit - I genuinely enjoy listening to him. Dare I say the only considered, non-bias ex rangers pundit…
Yip I agree. I’ve always had time for Ally mcoist 🍀
Same he's brilliant
He’s a Glasgow boy. He fully gets it.
I’d buy him a pint for sure 🍀
Top lad always respectful.
Most of the guys from the 80s are - butcher and Ferguson etc are all fine
I like McCoist he's a realist and always shows Celtic the respect they deserve
Can't stand him it's all an act plenty of footage of his bigotry.
@@paulkane1911 If you had another brain, it would be lonely
@@paulkane1911 show us
@@paulkane1911 Tommy Burns was a massive bigot, who heavily disliked people just because they were protestant. The biggest thing I've noticed about you Rangers and Celtic fans is you like to walk around pretending your shit doesn't stink.
@@DeviousLick711 not only a lie but Lazio haha
Nice to see the lads from huddle breakdown and 20 min tims as well as Paul 👌
Sutton and McCoist are superb together and great ambassadors for Scottish football. I'm a fan of neither Celtic or Rangers but their stories and discussions are really good with the humour added too. Quality.
As a Irish man rangers best team was 95-98
Brilliant to be involved guys. Sorry about our Rangers counterparts being so patterless!
Fantastic representation but not sure about the makeup you were wearing😆
surely good prospects for sellicks, without complete orthodontia and one that every two words was about to erupt, in a complex gastric process.
Only obsessed with one team on the pitch…peak da patter
All the Celtic fan media was superb 😁💚
Feel for ye sitting next to that clown in the white.. what a miserable bastard 😂😂😂
Brilliant from the Overlap having us Old Firm teams represented. We need a part 2!!!!
ZOMBIE ALERT
😂😂😂😂😂 denial lol
Glasgow Derby pal. U let yer club die
Celtic contributers certainly outdressing their Rangers conterparts on this occasion also, particularly the guy who wore his Rangers pajamas at the back
First off max respect to Chris and Ally for being frenimes lol and the panel of fans being respectful to each other over the respected points of debit I am the type of Celtic fan who respects our opponents you are only as strong as your closest rival and Rangers coming up from the 3rd division all the way to a beedi rattling Europa League final is amazing therefore the work Ange has done from ground zero is also amazing to topple that squad and instil Celtic dominance is the stuff Celtic fans dreamed of if we can continue to progress and break records it obviously is outstanding I feel it's a bit disrespectful to say it wont be that big a deal from a club who claim to be the worlds most successful football club it is dismissive of there opponents and the work that has been undertaken by Celtic Rangers are facing the same style of rebuild at the end of this season with the possible departure of 10 players lets see how Beale closes the Gap that is evident when he has his own chance at recruitment because from where I'm looking it's more a canyon than a gap Celtic as eluded too will not stand still and the value of Anges recruitment is there for all to see and will be highlighted with record breaking transfer fees when the players move on ultimately leaving us progressing to the tune of hundreds of millions it remains to be seen if Beale can attract that type of unrefined gem to Ibrox and turn rough diamonds into sparkling prospects I don't think he has the draw of Ange and his style of play coaching and experience of untapped markets should Ange stay at Celtic I think this is the beginning of a golden age for Celtic where we will see the advent of the Celtic group with Celtic buying clubs in Ireland Australia as well as other locations to meet the demand of our Global fan base I also think we will see the launch of a Global app accessing untold millions for the club just as a conservative prediction I would say a global app showing all Celtic games at 10£ a month could see 600k buys accessing 6 million a month and 72 million a year so we can pull our self of that sky TV teat that spews forth sour milk and undervalues our product .
Rangers liquidated and died in 2012. Enough of the "climbed up from third division" nonsense.
Well said 👍🏼
Use a fckn comma if you're struggling to find a full stop.
Thanks for having us ✊🏻
Was great watch guys look forward to your next show
Absolutely bitterness ripping out of you 2 clowns was the highlight of the show. The old raging virgin sitting in with a bunch of 20 something RUclipsrs 😂
wear the shirt ffs
Great to see happy friendly rivalry between the two fans - need more of that well done
Well done Celtic fan media, so well represented and direct. The Huddle bhoys brought the brains and the 20 minute Tims brought the pain. Great to listen to both Ally and Chris views, they may grind opposition ears but they're great entertainment. Celtic to win 4-1.
nah Celtic fans like Ally we dont hate for hates sake ;)
A dont
To be fair unless you’ve lived in Scotland as someone from England or elsewhere,
you wouldn’t understand how passionate they are about football. All best in the future for Scottish football
:)
They're not passionate about football, they're passionate about hating one another. The football just gives them an excuse.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 biggest pile of nonsense I've ever heard. Yes we don't like each other, but we still have to beat everyone else to win leagues and trophies, not just our city rivals. Also, as a person who grew up during the Troubles in the North of Ireland, you clearly don't have a single clue about how deep this rivalry goes. This is more than football.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 Correct.
@@dsnouts7104 incorrect
@@asensibleyoungman2978 Absolute fuckin nonsense. Glasgow is football mad. Hate will always come with this fixture but don't dare question the fans of both clubs love of the game.
The English rangers fan was the only one that looked like he could have a laugh the rest sat there raging the whole time
Brilliant. Two legends and the fans were sound and made good points.
To be fair Sutton is not nor ever will be a legend. He played well in a good/great team and gained some honours. A legend though? Seriously? Would we put him alongside Tommy mcinally, patsy Gallagher, Charlie Tully, and that’s just the start of the list of the top of my head. Tommy Burns, Danny McGrain, Paul McStay. Jinky, Billy Mc Neil, Bertie. The only one in the recent era who would come close to being called a legend would be Henrik. I wish we would stop throwing that term around and really give it to those deserving. Sounds like a rant but just wanted to say. HH
Good video, well done Overlap 👊
Celtic fans like Ally . He's a good rep of what decent rangers fans are like .
Shane you canny sane you canny say same for big sutts and any celik fan.
Who told you that??? 🤣🤣🤣
Laudrup,Gazza,Hateley, Mccoist, Albertz rangers have had some wonderful players
Ebt cheated to get those
Players.. paid them wages that they did not have.. that’s why they’re trying to buy players that don’t even get a
Game for there own team hahaha
Thanks for inviting me on the show! Looking forward to the next one 👊🍀
40:18 glad that got kept in 😂
Knew than was you away when i heard you laugh
@@Quinny3001 Why didn't you mention LIQUIDATION 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for having us 👍🏻
Well done Paul. Hard to get a word in when you are up against the 20 Min Tim and Huddle legends. Really enjoyed the show and you spoke well mate👍
Legend!
Paul at least you got the Kyogo question but you got to bring Callum along next time, he would've stirred them up
Ye might have reminded ally about EBTs while he was reminiscing in the glory days…they cheated and now they have got away with it cos we let them
I would love to have heard the fans being briefed before this and the list words that cannot be said hahaha. This would never have happend 20 years ago. Great to see, well done all involved.
Roll on Sunday! 🍀
Be interesting to see one for each of the top flights of the home nations give a bit of a spotlight to all
The Celtic fans cracking jokes having a laugh the Rangers fans biting to everything getting wound up 🤣🤣🤣
Knew this is exactly how it would play out the minute it was announced.
Eh? You watching a different program? The rangers fans were all fairly relaxed. The Celtic fans on the other hand, even when on top, the bitterness oozing out of them constantly. Not a bit of crack between them ffs 😂
@@ruaraidhmorrison5879 Aye OK mate, guy on the top left was about to pop a vein man. Guy was trying his best to hold in the anger 🤣🤣🤣
@@deedeec1306 the Tims on this were just oozing bitterness, everything was about rangers 😂 even when on top, still utterly consumed by Rangers. If you can’t see that from this video then you need help
@@ruaraidhmorrison5879 consumed by rangers mate it’s a show with Celtic and rangers fans to ex Celtic and rangers players they are bound to come up at some point ffs , did none of the rangers fans mention Celtic then ? 😂😂 honestly man the nonsense your spouting
The irony of Coisty saying Kyogo doesn’t link play up and just wants to get into positions to score goals 😂😂😂
As a rangers man growing up idolising coisty, I can relate to the irony 😂. I think Super Ally is similar to larsson in the eyes of true rangers or celtic fans, great players, great human beings, well respected and always showed respect, but boy could they put the sphere into that score bag.
"see you Coisty, that's a your guid for...scoring effin goals"!! lol!!🤣
@@The-walloper u can’t seriously compare mccoist to larsson and I’m a rangers man
That lassie was brilliant bamming the rangers fans up 😂
She’s a boot
The ‘debate’ re Kyogo simply isn’t one,Ange brought him in as he knew he would fit his system exactly.And that’s why Ange is the best Manager as well.Has a vision,not stumbling around trying this and that.
@@beautifulgame7821 Who liked yours?
Two different mindsets clearly Celtic a team on the rise and rangers clinging on to anything they can
at the risk of a social media backlash, it was great to see a bunch o lads sitting together and have a decent blether without breaking into the usual Glasgow Derby/ Old Firm guff....but hey us Tims won the banter cup nae sweat....lol!!!!
they are the new Saint and Greavsie. Sutton does a bit of light hearted trolling, but on commentary he calls it how it is. Funny seeing how great a pals they are. 😂😂
I think that a lot depends on your age. I am old enough to go through the time when that cliché that "Form goes out the window in an old firm game" was true. So as a Celtic fan I am always "hopeful" rather than "confident" regardless of form or recent records.
WE NEED MORE OF THIS
That was a good discussion. Nice to see both sides being respectful with a bit of a laugh thrown in without it turning nasty.
Wonder what was cut 😂
More of this fan base questions superb more time🎉
sutton and mccoist absolute world class
I’m a celtic fan and can’t help admit how likeable ally is. Aye he’s one of them and when it’s old firm day I change my mind for sure haha but he really is a down to earth guy
Can’t dislike a top bloke
The fans all trying really hard to appear reasonable and balanced 😂😂😂
Wished they spoke about away fan seat allocations too
Paul well informed good on him
Thanks for having us! HH
Absolutely brilliant watch.
the rangers after giving a big payout to Gio decide it would be good business to get Ally Mc beale signed up for 4 years 😮
Its the passion of the fans that drive our teams forwards and i for one hope it stays with celtic and rangers forever nice to see healthy banter between old players 👏👏
They should do one with other clubs on how to close the gap on old firm! Would be interesting to get mccoist and Surtons opinion and the fans
They all need more investment and to improve their stadiums and training infrastructure
@@ajorngjdonaydbr that’ll only happen by getting higher up the league and progressing in Europe though
I think there needs to be more foreign managers and players as they’re more tactically aware and would be less likely to just lie down to the old firm and make the league competitive
This was class. Love the banter between McCoist and Sutton. Mon the Hoops!!🍀🍀🍀
So do i mate there a good double act together. 👍❤️🤍💙
Who's the posh English boy? Every Rangers fan dream son?
Used to hate mccoist as a player cos played for them lot. But as a pundit he is amazing
Great banter! I just wish Snags from Battle Fever Podcast would let everyone else get a word in edge ways 😂
Amazing, they managed to get through that without mentioning EBT’s, administration or liquidation despite sally briefly alluding to playing in div3-2 when apparently Celtic should have been winning more trebles
There is no word in the Rangers fan's vocabulary as Liquidation. They neither know what it means nor say the word.
@@BobByran the young boys soul robbers fc 🇬🇧🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹
@@georgemoffat797 champions again ole ole mind the gap william HFH 🍀
@@celticsole7542 fek aff large hole Timothy
@@georgemoffat797 Top o the league lookin down on the rangers billy ol son HFH 🍀
respect to Ally for being a true diplomat, i wish they brought up the fans being back in both grounds who create the fantastic atmosphere of old, like we'll all see in the next old firm game.
can't take to Chris Sutton, he's always criticising someone, not much of a footballer in his day. Wish he would bugger off back to England and give us all piece.
Two great clubs
This was class
I think Sutton is underrated, he got man of the match while playing up front, in midfield and at centre back in the same season.
One of the best Celtic players since 2000, that’s when I started watching football
Sutton was an excellent player, especially as a CF and foil for Larsson. He gave some of the best CBs in Europe a tough time of it on European nights.
To be fair, it's not that difficult to play for Celtic and look good. Joe Hart is a prime example.
@@MickeyRedNose Forster as well. Terrible keeper in the PL
Weren't Spurs fans shouting for Forster to be number one the other week?
@@MickeyRedNose it’s ok, Sutton was part of a team that slapped English clubs everytime we played them.
Great video
Said this the other day, kyogo and McCoist are very similar in their game play
Brilliant. I think you can see the difference with McCoist and Sutton being somewhat serious here.
You need Roy, Gary & Jamie for this over lap
Stop being a big baby
Roy couldn't hack it at celtic tho? 😂
When is the next one? Cup final coming up
Wow! Huddle bhoys plus the Tim’s bhoys… so good!
Wondering why the Bhoysie bus wasn’t represented…. 🍀🇦🇺😏.
Aye that didny quite work did it lads?
Thank God for subtitles!
I know right I can’t understand a word that Chris Sutton or the women says.
For the past 14 years rangers objectives has been to stop Celtic winning as little as possible 😂
Biggest unasked question out the whole Old Firm debate: Is that an engagement ring she’s wearing?
Thank you for having us on🔴⚪️🔵
🔴⚪🔵
A podcast about a dead club must be boring going over old tainted wins!
As a Rangers fan with a strong rangers/celtic supporting family, it's a shame to see so much bitterness in the comments to this day. I love the banter of the true fans, but the bitterness from some is horrible and must have them twisted inside. Love thy neighbour.
As an Ange fan and temp Celtic fan, I can only say you’re comment is refreshing. ✅
Moan tae
Possibly the most special derby in Britain. Also a big fan of the South Wales derby. Some of those regional derbies are the best. The Teeside derby as well
Edinburgh Derby is criminally underrated for atmosphere. Shame no one at Sky cares about it though.
Best Derby in the world!
@@Support-your-local-team because both teams are crap that’s why
@@darkzones3994 I doubt you know anything about either team.
@@Skyrim152 Aye right. Which lower league tinpot club do you support then?
I agree with Ally McCoist (for once) the gap between Celtic & Rangers has closed. I don't feel 100% confident we will beat them every time we play them. Also it will be interesting to see for Scottish football how both teams progress next season in Europe for Scottish football as a whole. That being said, I hope the Mighty Celtic win a treble this year >oo
Super Ally ,A true Ranger's Man ,what a striker for the Gers.RFC1 ❤
Aye a true legend that took massive wages when they started back up after liquidation some guy
@@wulltaylor who cares mate.. Ally is one rangers man 2 be respected
@@wulltaylor hahaha Ano took sevco for every penny hahababab and they still love
Him
@@Chop2016 green and white care… Craig white and Charles green
We done Alan - raised the issue of the £’s Gap. I still don’t think that they see it. Some of them with feeble excuses and examples of where The Rangers have ‘done well’ in the recruitment and transfer market…🤯
It's a very distressing reality for many to face up to - an appalling vista
FAB seeing you and Enda, bringing an ‘intellectual’ slant to proceedings.
It doesn’t matter whether it’s TV, radio, newspapers, or this kind of ‘neutral’ podcast, no-one is willing to dwell on a discussion about Rangers and ‘finance’. It’s a no-go area for the media.
I was in the East enclosure that day when Murdo McLeod scored that screamer to draw. Brilliant game and I think both sets of fans were happy with the result
I've just cacked my pants.
@@dorothythelabskeleton80 Was it a big shite?
McCoist is such a good pundit. The only time I watch ITV's football without the radio commentary is when he's on.
Also I watched an interview with McCoist when I was in New York with American colleagues. They were stunned that I (born in London) could understand him perfectly and they could only pick up one word per sentence.
"McCoist is such a good pundit"??????
This..... Is why drugs are bad kids, fries your brain cells!
Won best pundit of the year 😊
@@v82mp95
He’s not good , he is fat and away the best .
That flew in i enjoyed that
Absolutely love ally he is a gem . 🍀🏆🏆🏆🍀
I love this rivalry. We are so lucky to have it but unfortunately, for some people, they get silly and spoil it. Watching this shows how rivalry should be embraced and enjoyed.
Hats off to ange sometimes you’ve just got to hold your hands up and accept the opposition has your number. Rangers need to try and rise up to the challenge which is easier said than done because they could go the whole league season with one defeat and he will strengthen again in the summer and try and better that so imo rangers will need near perfection next season to top celtic. Near impossible for beale
From a celtic man☘️always liked Mcoist 👍🏻
Thought this was Gary’s channel ??😂😂😂
There’s no way that wee choad is wearing a europa league final top they got beat in hahahahaha
This Is Ibrox absolute heroes. Well done all.
Sutton was really a great player for Celtic and a great pundit now
🤣🤣🤣
Love it
Low lie the fields of Athenry
Where once we watched the small free birds fly
Our love was on the wing we had dreams and songs to sing
It's so lonely 'round the fields of Athenry
nice to see QUINNY from sorare on there legend
Hey, why wasn't I invited to this ?
Ally and Chris from rivals to real good friends 👌
They didn’t play in the same era so not rivals.
@@labos7250 always 1 idiot
There is no OldFirm!!! 🍀🍀🍀🍀
Fantastic if only the fans. Would realise passion not hate 🇨🇮
Great to see some familar Celtic Podcasters 👍
I am picturing riot police and possibly the army off camera just in case😁
HH✌️
Sutton & McCoist are a good double act
Big Chris..as a celtic fan u have to love him..he's more than intelligent enough to never let even the smallest of facts or stat go by ,it means he generally has the upper hand over the Rangers fans every time...thats WHY they hate him and we love him...HH.🍀👌
Might be in the minority of Rangers supporters here but I actually don’t mind a bit of Sutton lol. You need at least one wind up merchant on the other side I think. He hits out with some fuckin shite at times and sometimes it goes his way and he can boil your blood, and sometimes it goes our way, where I then have someone to point and laugh at like a bit of a bellend! You absolutely need that I think. It’s a part of the fixture. Would be a bit shite without someone like that. Everybody needs that “aw fucking shut it ya prick” guy😂I don’t mind when the shoe is on the other foot. Dish it out I’ll take it back. It’s all in good fun. I also quite like when players come up here for either side, and our way of life becomes there’s… like yer man Chris. You know he loves it which I can never be truly mad at👍
I like the sentiment in this. Fact is, supporters make football. In the case of Celtic and Rangers, and what a lot of people don’t get, is that both sets of supporters actually LOVE to hate each other. Like a marriage gone wrong.
Anybody saying they'd take Morelos ahead of Kyogo is an absolute idiot. No matter what team you support, Kyogo is 100x the player Morelos has been or ever will be.
Ally’s point about trebles was silly, we won 4 in a row when sevco were bk in the big boys league
Sevco has never been in the big boys league. They’re not even a professional football team
@@lgs4692 aye it’s the mob that’s pretending to be rangers, google it
Ally mccoist is the most likeable guy man. Amazing he is so loved even by Celtic supporters.
Rangers have a problem and that is that their fans have been calling for Kent to be rested and the wide men to be Sakala and Tillman with Kent held back as the impact player on the bench or dropped altogether. It worked versus St Mirren but failed against Aberdeen so Beale has the dilemma of, "Do I revert back to Kent or persevere with Tillman"? Will he bring Kent back in from the cold or stick to the players whose future lie at Rangers? Kent can sometimes be good against Celtic but his stats just don't stack up. Celtic have a similar dilemma with Abada if fit but I expect Jota to be brought back and Vata showed he can be quite useful if needed, so Celtic have more options in terms of flair and creativity. McCoist mentioned Jack in midfield but as far as I'm aware he's out, is he not?
Chuckled at Alan calling Rangers manager “Mickey”; some wide eye looks from the blue half…
I can see Celtic running up a score
Todd cantwell breaks a sweat getting on the parkys bus
Sutton will never be a good spokesperson being so one sided. He should learn from the way Ally can compliment both sides and bring no bias into these talks
Finally!