I had that happen and it is now fully back. It atrophied due to nerve damage. Nerves regenerated. It sucks but if you keep training it, it returns to the same strength as it was before.
Honestly, I only tuned into UFC because I heard Brock had a fight. I knew nothing about the sport, I just wanted to see this behemoth from WWE have a real fight. Since his first fight with Frank, I could count on one hand how many UFC events I’ve missed. Ive went back and watched the older stuff as well as Pride. Brock got me addicted MMA so love him or hate him, he brought a lot of eyes to the sport. Some remained casuals and some became serious fans.
i also feel the same way; i was a big brock lesnar fan. i found he was leaving and i was sad and found out he was training to be in the ufc and i was like whats this business? i know my family were into ufc and not into wrestling but it was the first time i started watching it intensely was when brock came in to ufc. .
@@aakash950 Connor for me was what brought me to watching mma alot plus I used to do some amateur fights in mma and that dave bautista mma fight was great
@@Sonsofanarchyrules678 well I actually left watching ufc around 2016-2018 and I got back again because of conor and flyod thing I didn't knew who was conor until late 2018 🤣😂
Much deserved credit given to Frank Mir for giving respect to the "fake" wrestlers that most MMA fighters just blow off as not being real athletes. I think many pro wrestlers would appreciate the respect he showed towards their profession and the dangers they face on a daily basis,
Huh idiot's who disrespect so called fake wrestlers... The storylines are fake they sell moves they fake punches they really get hurt & they're talented wrestler's not everyone can do what Shawn Michaels Jeff Hardy & Rey Mysterio can do so shut up please
Ok let's not get it twisted, Frank back in the day was a cocky asshole, and he did a MASSIVE amount of humiliating trash talk to Brock and to pro wrestling as a whole during the Brock vs Frank Rematch leadup. Frank got A LOT more humble after getting his ass kicked, and in essence it taught him to become a more well rounded martial artist and human being.
Mir is one of the most under appreciated fighters in the game. His ground game forced the HW’s to improve their guard and submission defense, and some of his highlights are classics.
Brock Lesnar is 44 years old, he’s made his money in the WWE & UFC, he’s achieved everything, he’s won in both companies, he’s now having fun, but since his return in 2012 he’s worked SMARTER, he doesn’t take the risks he used too in his first run. That’s a smart businessman.
Even when people now are saying how he's doing just suplexes and shit - He's still the biggest star out there whenever he comes back and outdraws anyone in the business. Maybe not Rock, Cena and Austin but in terms of the semi-active wrestlers, he's definitely the top dog.
He is a super athlete, he is an NCAA champion, he exploded on the pro wrestling scene, made an NFL roster (no he didn't make the main team or play in any games, but he got a lot further than most that try.), he is a multi time UFC champion, then came full circle in his pro wrestling career to be one the biggest stars in history. Love him or hate him, you still have to respect him.
@@nonstickmeat pretty pathetic then. You'd think you'd want your product to stay in shape and be healthy. Pretty sure then they are not getting enough protein or nutrition if they are stuck going to buffets or McDonald's.
Brock became an UFC champ early in his career. That’s impressive. Took the belt from Randy Couture a legit champ then took the undefeated record from Carwin.
@@petebagwell6666 don’t want to criticize Brock of course he knows how to fight but every mma fighter can come a day and take the win it’s just a Bet , and people are amazed because he took the championship defend it , leave for 1 year win again and lose It’s strange but I’m not super impressed (I only watch wrestling rarely UFC but there are tons of people with better win loss record and all that)
Yeah, Mir is kinda understating how unhinged he was for a while concerning Brock. Mir actually got to the point about talking about wanting to kill Brock, and the UFC had to step in and threaten to fire the guy if he didn't start watching what he was saying. That being said, Mir was never in a position to be fighting Brock again before Brock retired. After Brock lost the title, he only had the one more number 1 contender fight before he retired. If he had won that fight, Brock would have only had taken the one more title fight regardless of whether he won or lost. He was not in great health back then.
I could see why Mir wanted to kill Brock. Before and after the bike accident Mir was the poster boy of the heavyweight division and after UFC 100 Brock made him look like a dunce in the sport.
i started watching ufc bc of Brock and i hated Frank Mir with a fucking passion when i was in high school, but the headline made it seem like he was dogging Brock which I don’t think he did.
That about kill thing, Mir was just trying to promote the fight. Conor, khamzat, etc so many people have said it but unlike Conor, khamzat,etc Mir ain't Dana's boy while Brock Lesnar was Dana's boy.
He deserved what he got. He was super arrogant against Wrestlers and I very much savored the flavor of him getting his face turned into hamburger meat. Frank is the single only person I flat out hate in all of MMA for his disgusting disrespect.
He’s over, because Vince has shoved him down the throats while, burying guys like Braun and Joe who would’ve beaten him. We can’t ignore that part, same with Roman. If you’re the only one given that treatment, of course that’s how it’s gonna be. Brock’s a HOFer for sure, and deserves the treatment, but let’s give nuance.
McMahan wants to make an Andre type out of him, doesn't want to overuse him . In a Stone Cold Podcast VM said that he doesn't want Brock to be just a week in week out guy, he only wants him for main events. Stone Cold looked at VM as if to say, what about payin his dues like everybody else.
I think this is why wrestling has survived with success for so long. They know wins/losses do not matter, its getting you over that matters that's it. Once you are over, no one cares about your losses. They will pay to see you read a book, or have opinions. When you are over, they just care that you are appearing. The same thing goes for ufc or boxing, but they still think losses matter alot. It's getting you over, getting people to care about you that sells.
Thank you, Frank Mir. For giving credit and respect to professional wrestling at the beginning. I know the majority of the MMA community are very smug and look down on it. Not everybody can put their body on the line 300 days out of the year. Same way not everybody can step foot in the octagon. Two completely different lifestyles. I respect both.
I don't know if you noticed but big props to Frank for also saying that Brock is more naturally a fighter than a pro wrestler. Because that's something that brock gets shit for more than anything. I still hear how oh Brock's not an MMA fighter he's not a real MMA fighter which is the dumbest thing you can say about Brock Lesnar LOL
I just don't believe most the mma community craps on pro wrestling. I think many a fan watched it growing up and loved it. What I do think happens is, many wrestling fans come over and legit used to talk like they were real fighters. I mean, many really didn't know how fake back in the day wrestling was. I mean these guys legit had a boxing tournament and it was god awful. As both sports have evolved I think there are far many people with your opinion who watch the sports. Wrestling certainly takes a toll on the body and requires some serious skills. We also know that these guys would get demolished in a real fight and people no longer even debate that wrestlers could beat up mma fighters.
@@Dejusticed 100%. I think the worst of it was when Brock came over to MMA and you heard it more from either people that weren't even fans of either sport but played sports so they would comment or would mainly be from MMA fans that didn't understand what wrestling was lol I don't know why they didn't into their MMA fans but they couldn't look past the fact that the guy came from WWE but then had this ridiculous wrestling pedigree just like some of their favorite mma fighters did
@@Dejusticed the last time wrestling fans thought it was real was the 80's. Being a life long fan of wrestling and MMA, MMA fans absolutely shit on wrestling fans all the time, to the point where it kind of gets sad to watch how defensive they are over nothing really.
Extremely humble and respectable dialogue from Mir. I only knew him from the Lesnar fight and brief post-retirement comments. Much respect to him. Seems like a great guy.
Mad fuc*ing RESPECT to Mir, MMA LEGEND that doesn't get the respect he deserves. Besides of what he's done in the sport, his knowledge of it is unparalleled.
I know right. My fav fighter for the longest time. 2 fights with Big Nog 1 with Fedor and 1 with Crro Cop and he won 3 out of 4 of those fights. Not too mention all of his other fights. Man's a living legend....
Mir could still be a manager. I can see him being one of those managers that gets people easily pissed off. Look at how mad he got Brock. He can do it.
@@newerest1 Frank is a big guy and usually managers shouldn't be the same size or bigger than the people they're managing. And managers have to be able to cut promos.
I don't think Frank Mir should tarnish his image as a martial artist by dabbling too much in pro-wrestling. MMA sportscasting seems a better fit to me. Just my humble opinion as an MMA and old school wrasslin' fan
Frank got more humble later in life, but when he was champion in his prime, he had a HUGE ego and trash talked a lot of people. In the media leadup to Brock vs Mir 2, Frank and his camp ridiculed pro wrestling and constantly made fun of Brock and his accomplishments. That's why Brock had so much pent up anger and emotion on Frank even after the fight was over. Frank DID kind of deserve it at the time, lol, he was an asshole.
He’s always had a technical and intelligent approach to fighting. Like a GSP, they’re put the art in martial artist. It makes him cocky. But I rooted for him against Brock because it sold as brain vs brawn
You don't recognize him because he has changed. More chill respectful everyday guy type now. Back in the day a real piece of work. Good for the game was Frank Mir always battling. Getting old mellows you out thats where he is I think. Probably takes meds for various conditions(i know i would need a handful after that career). Hoping he stays fairly healthy and can enjoy life. Deserves it did his job.
My Golden era for MMA was Strikeforce on Showtime UFC vets like GSP, Koscheck, Rampage, Machida, Silva, Ubereem,Jones emerging, Shogun becoming champ, Cain out cardioing Mfs, BJ Penn splitting open Diego, Brock v Shane Carwin, Ariel being a great instigator, Ultimate fighter on Spike, Karyn Bryant getting motorboated,Undisputed games online, Dana doing media scrums and giving away tickets in public. It just felt different then, much bigger and more exciting. Now its over saturated and full of no stars really. Started getting stale when they move to FOX and got with Reebok.
The "oversaturation and no stars" thing will always be weird to me. I love that there are fights every Saturday for over a month. I used to have no problem binge watching multi disc King of the Cage DVDs back in the day for hours at a time, and there were no big names or stars in those. MMA fans can be so confusing.
@@leelunk8235 I've been following Conor since the Cage Warriors days and he never had any injury remotely severe to Frank's bike accident. The worst for him was the broken ankle during Poirier 3
@@grimmywizard THE BROKEN ANKLE WAS JUST AS BAD AS MIR'S, THEY INSERTED A ROD WITH SCREWS DOWN THERE. AGAIN MIR HAD A FULL RECOVERY AFTER SO DID CONOR, FANBOYS LIKE YOU LIKE USING A BROKEN LEG AS AN EXCUSE, BROCK ALMOST MURDERED THAT KID, ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON
@@leelunk8235 you’re actually pretty Stooopid, The OP never said Brock didn’t kick his ass he’s just saying Frank mirror had a lot of potential before he got into the motorcycle accident
"RESPECT" It was just too difficult for me" coming from a talented MMA fighter. He did great against Brock. Glad he recovered and hope he stays off those motorcycles. Great interview- surprising humility.
@Justin, just saw another video of this same interview where he explains that he lost cartilage to vertebrates 4,5 and 6 .. so that portion of his neck was bone on bone pinching nerves to his arm making him lose strength.. Crazy.. Here’s the link ruclips.net/video/xTgcT1mVOk4/видео.html
@@tonypastor705 I mean, I wouldn't take ronda's words seriously . Considering how average her performance throughout her wwe career. She's good, just not on becky/charlotte level. But hey, it's just my opinion
@@twerkinalisha7346 of course he came off. The only UFC fighter I even believe is remotely natural is Nate Diaz. And that's because he's vegan and looks average physically despite being legit in the ring.
Lesnar v Mir 3 would never happen because although the score is 1-1 realistically Frank would get slaughtered. The first time Frank would have lost had it no been for the ref standing them up giving Frank a huge break allowing him to win. The second fight was so one-sided you can't get a third fight. Frank is a good fighter, but he could not counter the new style heavyweight.
You sound dumb first of all he's retired so your whole comment is irrelevant and Frank did pretty good for coming off a career ending motorcycle injury early on in his career when he won the title and if you were really smart you would know that other divisions yes but the heavyweight division has not really gotten that much better as far as skill besides ciril gagne and that's recent
Almost every fighter has a kryptonite and lesnar was mir’s, his heavy wrestling style with fast twitch muscle fibres, and being much naturally bigger than mir.
I've always been a fan but wasn't sure what kind of a dude he was?...seems pretty cool at this point of his life anyways...his skillset was so unique for a heavyweight...could genuinely do it on the ground and on his feet
@Paul Blackman Yes o.k. but please!! who is clean. Marvel comic bodies in UFC and then look at jelly belly Tyson Fury. NFL ripped guys are eating tuna an chicken breast! Yeah right.
Mir vs Lesnar 1 was right in the middle of my heyday watching UFC. I was part of that ultimate fighter, Spike TV generation. I had fallen out of it by UFC100 but I damn well tuned in. Maybe one of my favorite fights. The rubber match could have been cool but I'm happy with what we got and thinking 'what if' is usually more fun. Mir has always been such an affable personality. He reminds of a hockey goalie. Weirdly chill for someone comfortable with being hit in the face a lot.
@@andrewhagan7788 Sport was far more exciting to watch back then. Now it's just fighters not wanting to defend titles and complain about money(even though they make far more money today than ever).
The average person doesn’t stand a chance. The way above average person still would have a hard time being a pro wrestler. The amount of abuse they take is uncanny
Frank is one of the most articulate and intelligent fighters there is. Say what you will about the last half of his career - but that doesn't take away how well spoken he is.
Frank much love and respect for putting out there how much damage wrestlers take even when choreographed. Overr the last 40 years of being a fan I have seen the broken old wrestlers when they retire. Some of them broken so badly it hurts to watch them move.
I remember watching ufc 100 as my first ufc event when I was 13. Lesnar was the only person I knew because I was big into wwe when I was a kid. My uncle was a huge ufc fan so it was a cool crossover to see Lesnar in the ufc. That one event sparked my love for the ufc and I've been a die hard fan since.
I just looked at Mir's record because Nogueira was the first guy I thought of as his "rival". Holy shit, the names he fought are insane. Damn near every heavyweight legend in the sport.
Frank Mir is one of the old school mma legends. He’s lost a lot of weight/muscle here. Always comes across as intelligent and well spoken and genuine. Hope he is doing well
I heard a pro wrestler once say, "If you think this is 'fake', then come and step into the ring with me. I will slam you with a 'fake' throw. I will slam my "fake" forearm into your 'fake' face. I will kick your 'fake' stomach with my 'fake' leg. You can then ride on the 'fake' ambulance, which will take you to the 'fake' hospital, and they will perform 'fake' surgery on you."
I'm not a choreographed wrestling fan, loved it as a kid, but those dudes do that shit 2 to 3 hundred times a year. Pretty crazy. They are legit stuntmen.
@@rahamanawelenje9955 ??? Movies are not "authentic". The only difference between a movie and professional wrestling is that a movie has scenes and extensive editing to hide mistakes. Wrestling shows are live, which is why mistakes happen, and also why the people doing them must be professionals. No average joe could perform those moves without a much higher risk of injury. Both movies and wrestling require suspension of disbelief to be enjoyable. When you're watching an action film, you don't question why the main character has a seemingly infinite supply of ammo, or how his enemies all shoot like Stormtroopers. It's the same thing in wrestling, so saying you can't enjoy wrestling because it's fake, while enjoying movies for being fake makes you a hypocrite.
@@rahamanawelenje9955 I just did. And yeah, I know it tries to pretend it's a sport. It's called kayfabe, but it's been pretty much dead since the internet came around. It's literally acting in the same way that actors act in movies. Wrestling is just like the movies whether you want to believe it or not.
@@rahamanawelenje9955 Movies are authentic? Most movies nowadays are made in front of a green screen!! Played by actors pretending to be batman or whoever. Movies are authentic 🤣🤣🤣🤣 They get to edit out mistakes, wrestlers don't.
Someone need to show this clip to Joe Rogan and Dana White and all these other haters that say this ain't a real sport compared to mma and boxing. This is a legendary heavyweight admitting a truth that no-one wants to admit too. Pro wrestling is more work and athletically inclined than MMA and I'll die on that
Didnt know how much I like listening to Frank. I remember watching him when I was a teenager defeat Brock Lesnar. NOBODY thought that was going to happen haha. Great show thank you!
Pro wrestling is difficult, but it doesn't have to be as dangerous as it is now. People are doing insane moves and taking ridiculous bumps for no reason. It doesn't have to be that dangerous.
a very wise man once said.....Back in the day in pro wrestling people barely touched and you had fans coming over the rails.....Now guys are smashing into one another and you hear golf claps......
Agreed I’m a wrestling fan til I die and todays era of wrestling stars be doing to much to please the fans If I was a wrestler I would be a balance wrestler That does holds, strikes and some mild excitement moves
@@jmissle very well said!! As Corny once said, it used to be that you could deck a guy with a roll of quarters and you had an angle for months. Now though, you could smash a guy with a sledgehammer or run him over with a semi, and people just yawn and go oh well, can't mourn forever, and have a midget match. Guys are about getting a pop instead of producing quality work. They don't sell anything. As I've said many many times before on other posts, if they don't sell (moves), why should I buy into the product/moves?
Not wrestling anymore. Its more a violent circus. I am old school so Brett Hart Curt Henning guys like this is what I wanna see. Flying through the air gets old. Ric Flair old school man. Jumping 30 feet through the air and landing on a few guys don't sound healthy to me.
Mir was VERY close to having a trilogy fight w/ Brock. If he would've won the fight w/ Carwin, he was lined up to fight for the title. Which was held by Brock at the time.
@@MoreBuffMoreMuff He decided to wrestle because he was absolutely gassed. Carwin's power was as scary as Ngannou's is now back in the day but unfortunately he would gas out. Loved watching him back in the day
@@Procks_ To be fair, Shane threw everything he had at Brock, trying to overwhelm and finish him. When you throw everything you have at someone and combine with a big adrenaline dump, the gas tank goes fast. It's like Mark Coleman said "it's a big engine that burns a lot of fuel".
@@Omega-h4e Carwin is a wrestler. He was NCAA division 2 champion. He's just insanely strong and had tnt in his hands so he liked standing and banging because 90% the other guy would get knocked out. But he had no gas tank, which was always a problem with the stronger and bigger HWs. Which is why most of the top HWs were smaller guys like Cain, Big Nog, Couture, Stipe and Fedor.
the reason brock doesnt do the crazy bumps anymore is probably because he gets scared he would get a career ending injury because of what happened with kurt angle at mania
Mir doesn't know anyone in the industry. He might talk to some indy guys that have never been in the wwe, but Brock's reputation as a worker is pretty great according to most wrestlers.
Always loved Frank mir new lvl of respect tho listening to him talk about pro wrestling cvv coming thru again man's smashing it last couple yrs much love from cross the pond brother
He does the bare minimum and still bested many , many, many , MANY wrestlers out there when it comes to agility, speed, strenght, ring psychology and charisma.
@@PentaRaus I'm not talking about the rigged part of wrestling rather Lesnar's athleticism and charisma that also helped him becoming UFC top star even in defeat
@@SlayersOfYou buddy you probably not even sure what to eat on lunch tomorrow, how can you be sure that roids helped him out? Roids are not a magic potion that grants you skills , yet Lesnar is a skilled wrestler/fighter regardless of roids
I do have to say I honestly believe Frank Mir could’ve been the greatest heavyweight ever. Unfortunately that motorcycle accident fucked everything up. But give the dude his credit, he swung with, and beat some of the best the sport has seen.
@@IgnatiusCheese right? I honestly never was a big fan of Mir. But like you said, even after that bad wreck he still came back and competed for years at the pro lvl. I kept catching myself giving him the nod. Now in hindsight. A prime lvl Mir with no accident trauma, vs a prime Fedor….I would have to be strapped down and given a iv drip
@Paul Blackman I’m sure the dude has taken some type of steroid throughout his career. He’s had plenty of injuries. And even if they were just for performance, do you think he’s the only guy to do it? Almost every fighter uses what they can to get better. I don’t agree with it, I think it rots your organs. But almost everybody is on some type of hormone
Frank was on his way to being the best heavyweight at the time but yea the accident destroyed his legs. That accident probably also led to increased drinking and probably opioid abuse.
WWE has been chewing up and spitting out human beings for 50+ years. If Brock is smart enough to do the bare minimum, and not put himself at risk while taking home a hell of a paycheck, then he’s a smart man.
Frank was a great heavyweight champ and an awesome fighter - striking and grappling. When a champion turns down the opportunity for a rubber match, especially against someone who made it look a bit easy in the first fight, something smells a little fishy. And let's remember, if it was anyone other than Lesnar (at the time the UFC's perceived cash cow) that Shane Carwin was pounding on for about 4 straight minutes, that fight would have been stopped.
I dunno, Shane blew himself up & Lesnar was still defending himself. I think round 2 proved that he wasn't nearly as damaged as people believed him to be.
Frank Mir is a very intelligent man to say the least, and a mixed-martial artists of the highest level. His honesty and experience with pro wrestling is succinct and informative in a way that makes me appreciate both sports even more.
Say what you will about Brock, but he has been a main eventer since he laced up wrestling boots or MMA gloves. Sure, he is juiced to the gills... but he is a beast.
It's obvious the interviewer doesn't watch Brock in wwe nowadays because that man can cut a damn promo. He's been cutting damn good promos for a good while now. Before he used to be the quiet guy and paul Heyman would do all the talking. Now it's all him and he excels at it.
Also, Brock was a NCAA Div 1 heavyweight national champ. So, for those making the "fake wrestling" comments save it. These same people forget Severn also was a "pro wrestler" for a stint and so was Angle who won gold at the Olympics.
Frank in another interview mentioned how other UFC fighters were oblivious to that. They were saying "teach the phoney what real competition is all about".
Mir not remembering Vanderlei's nickname is acceptable after so many blows to the head. The interviewer struggling to remember the Axe Murderer just shows he's not knowledgeable about MMA.
Probably still mad Brock beat his ass in the second fight he even did in the first fight but frank is just too good at submissions and in the minute and 30 seconds the fight went on he dominated the first minute and 20 seconds but ultimately the more experienced frank pulled one out
Watching Frank's face getting punched in on the second fight with Brock was very tough to watch. I've always liked Frank Mir regardless he's had some great victories but unfortunately a lot of losses too
From what I've read, he's got a pretty sweet deal $$-wise with WWE. I think he knows Vince will let him do how much he wants, whenever he feels like it, so that's why we get some "barn burner" 5 minute Main Event Wrestlemania matches from Brock.
What most people don’t understand is Brock’s a 1 of 1 - A legitimate All-American and a National champion on two levels junior college and division 1, 6’3 295 pounds could bench 400 pounds, ran a 4.640, could throw 500 pounds around like nothing while simultaneously having the ability and agility to do a shooting star press, competed in 3 professional sports, that’s literally like unmatched
@@Xnovality What is it with internet MMA fans that they think they can refer to fighters as though they're bullying their little brothers? Frank did what he needed to do for our entertainment and has now got CTE for his troubles. Maybe you have a little brother who runs like a little girl. How your simile fits into the Frank Mir story, I have no idea at all.
Big fan of Frank, seems super cool too, but you can absolutely tell the cte or other cognitive damage has begun by his speech patterns and forgetfulness. It’s a brutal sport
Even to someone Frank has a clear distasteful history with able to give level headed answers. And even be complimentary about brock. True professional.
Yeah considering how bad this feud was at the time. Mir was pretty level headed about him, even somewhat complimentary. I think at the time Mir said he hoped to be the first person to kill someone in ring. and at end brock laughed and yelled at a bloody Mir when he was trying to shake hands. Id like to think if these guys sat down and had a beer together, theyd be friends. But its probhably more likely they'd fight again.
This is obviously stuff Frank heard 2nd/3rd hand as he isn't talking about his time in UFC at all. He's not really accusing Brock, he's essentially just saying the rumor he heard. All I know is there are guys like Goldberg who come in, barely cut promos, work 5 minutes and leave. Now THAT'S what I consider the bare minimum. When Brock is there he actually works like he's not watching the clock the whole time. He does plenty of long segments and works plenty of long matches. He may not be there every week but when he's there he's good to go.
I forgot who said this, I think it was one of the women but they said that Brock Lesnar watches every segment and match from gorilla position and gives feedback to wrestlers
I don't think he's being disrespectful to Brock, I think he does respect him. When he says "bare minimum" he was saying that's his understanding from talking to people in the industry since he doesn't really watch WWE. And to clarify why people would say that, it's because post-2012 Brock's move set in WWE became extremely limited and simple. My understanding is that he started doing that to reduce the risk of injury and his declining health due to his diverticulitis and substance abuse was taking a toll on him. But more recently over the past year or so Brock seems to have greatly improved his health and does put in huge effort into his work, he just doesn't take unnecessary risks to his health anymore by doing dangerous high spots. If you wanna see peak Lesnar in WWE check him out on Smackdown in 2002/2003 era. He was roided, on pills, on the vodka, and doing all kinds of wild shit in the ring 😄🤠 He said he learned to stop doing stupid shit in the ring after he damn near paralyzed himself with the shooting star press on Kurt Angle at Wrestlemania.
From everything I've heard since Brock returned, he has been doing anything but the minimum. I've heard plenty of younger stars talk about how he has sat in the gorilla position and offered advice to young up and comers. He apparently is very approachable and is having a great time helping others.
My biggest problem with Brock and his MMA career was his refusal to train striking and be hit in training. He could never ascend to the top without shoring up that aspect of his game. For all the God-given talent he had he simply never got comfortable taking strikes. This is the reason Kurt Angle never attempted to fight. When he and Lesnar legitimately rolled Kurt would dominate but he knew he didn't want to get punched in the face. If Brock would have came in five years earlier, and trained striking hard, he may have been the best ever. I 'm not saying he would have been an elite striker, but he could have become passable and more importantly not panic when he took heavy strikes.
@@jwatson181 Not when you have an issue taking strikes. He never got to a place where he was remotely comfortable taking strikes. He would go into panic mode way too fast
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For everyone asking about Frank’s right arm, he talks about it in this clip: ruclips.net/video/xTgcT1mVOk4/видео.html
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I had that happen and it is now fully back. It atrophied due to nerve damage. Nerves regenerated. It sucks but if you keep training it, it returns to the same strength as it was before.
Lesnar is talking a lot more since Heyman isnt on his side
clickbait. mir did not say bare minimum, he was repeating what others said about steroid boy brock
@@winteroutside7014 yhea it came out of his mouth so he literally said it
Honestly, I only tuned into UFC because I heard Brock had a fight. I knew nothing about the sport, I just wanted to see this behemoth from WWE have a real fight. Since his first fight with Frank, I could count on one hand how many UFC events I’ve missed. Ive went back and watched the older stuff as well as Pride. Brock got me addicted MMA so love him or hate him, he brought a lot of eyes to the sport. Some remained casuals and some became serious fans.
i also feel the same way; i was a big brock lesnar fan. i found he was leaving and i was sad and found out he was training to be in the ufc and i was like whats this business? i know my family were into ufc and not into wrestling but it was the first time i started watching it intensely was when brock came in to ufc. .
Same for me dude I started watching UFC just because of brock and I had the same hopes for CM junk but it flatline very early
@@aakash950 Connor for me was what brought me to watching mma alot plus I used to do some amateur fights in mma and that dave bautista mma fight was great
@@Sonsofanarchyrules678 well I actually left watching ufc around 2016-2018 and I got back again because of conor and flyod thing I didn't knew who was conor until late 2018 🤣😂
I agree I had never heard of Mir until he fought Brock. Brock got me interested in the UFC I was more into WEC since it was on tv everyday.
Much deserved credit given to Frank Mir for giving respect to the "fake" wrestlers that most MMA fighters just blow off as not being real athletes. I think many pro wrestlers would appreciate the respect he showed towards their profession and the dangers they face on a daily basis,
Definitely. They have an insane schedule, and a lot of these people are incredible athletes.
Huh idiot's who disrespect so called fake wrestlers... The storylines are fake they sell moves they fake punches they really get hurt & they're talented wrestler's not everyone can do what Shawn Michaels Jeff Hardy & Rey Mysterio can do so shut up please
Yeah but he did make fun of Brock over it before the rematch
100% agree man
@@poopsyko That's just trash talk to create hype around the fight lol.
Frank Mir was much more respectful of Lesnar then the title of the video suggests with that out of context quote.
No doubt, really cherry-picked the most click-baitey line possible. CVV gotta get those clicks though, and he got mine.
Thats been true of Mir's whole career really. He's always been pretty open and honest in answering questions and that leads to some clickbaity quotes.
Ok let's not get it twisted, Frank back in the day was a cocky asshole, and he did a MASSIVE amount of humiliating trash talk to Brock and to pro wrestling as a whole during the Brock vs Frank Rematch leadup.
Frank got A LOT more humble after getting his ass kicked, and in essence it taught him to become a more well rounded martial artist and human being.
Yeah, clearly they didn't like each other, but he seems like he's realized there's no value in holding onto that grudge.
@@AztecUnshaven exactly
Such a click baiting title. Dude showed nothing but respect to Brock.
Thanks for saving my time.
Mir is one of the most under appreciated fighters in the game. His ground game forced the HW’s to improve their guard and submission defense, and some of his highlights are classics.
@matsalvatore9074 prob saw a lot of people sign up for BJJ after watching him beat Brock. He got pummeled and still managed to find the submission.
@matsalvatore9074 at least they both juiced so it was somewhat fair 😂
Yeah, Frank's Jiu-jitsu skills changed the game for the heavyweights.
Prime Fedor vs prime Mir would have been an awesome fight 👍
Brock Lesnar is 44 years old, he’s made his money in the WWE & UFC, he’s achieved everything, he’s won in both companies, he’s now having fun, but since his return in 2012 he’s worked SMARTER, he doesn’t take the risks he used too in his first run. That’s a smart businessman.
Even when people now are saying how he's doing just suplexes and shit - He's still the biggest star out there whenever he comes back and outdraws anyone in the business. Maybe not Rock, Cena and Austin but in terms of the semi-active wrestlers, he's definitely the top dog.
Brock a fucking creep
If he didn't wrestle way more often then cena be would draw a bigger crowd than cena that's fax
He is a super athlete, he is an NCAA champion, he exploded on the pro wrestling scene, made an NFL roster (no he didn't make the main team or play in any games, but he got a lot further than most that try.), he is a multi time UFC champion, then came full circle in his pro wrestling career to be one the biggest stars in history. Love him or hate him, you still have to respect him.
@@nathanh2725 English?
The REAL hard part in pro wrestling is the ROAD. The schedule. All while staying in shape and working through injury.
Flying economy too, difficult enough for an average sized human.
@@davsavchav what's flying economy?
Their diet is shit. Probably why so many are getting injured. Doubt Vince has meals catered.
@@TraumaER there's catering at the event but other than that road food
@@nonstickmeat pretty pathetic then. You'd think you'd want your product to stay in shape and be healthy. Pretty sure then they are not getting enough protein or nutrition if they are stuck going to buffets or McDonald's.
I used to hang out with Frank Mir in Las Vegas, we had mutual friends within the MMA Community. He is a super chill dude, great times partying.
Who cares? Name dropping on a random comment for a random video.
Brock became an UFC champ early in his career. That’s impressive. Took the belt from Randy Couture a legit champ then took the undefeated record from Carwin.
My problem with that is that he had so few matches like 3/4 as a champ and people are like « he is the biggest beast ever »
Late in his age tho and couldn't keep up
@@d.o.a9236 tbf you come into mma and win the title with no mma experience whatsoever, of course he's a beast
@@petebagwell6666 don’t want to criticize Brock of course he knows how to fight but every mma fighter can come a day and take the win it’s just a Bet , and people are amazed because he took the championship defend it , leave for 1 year win again and lose
It’s strange but I’m not super impressed (I only watch wrestling rarely UFC but there are tons of people with better win loss record and all that)
@@d.o.a9236
Yeah, Mir is kinda understating how unhinged he was for a while concerning Brock. Mir actually got to the point about talking about wanting to kill Brock, and the UFC had to step in and threaten to fire the guy if he didn't start watching what he was saying.
That being said, Mir was never in a position to be fighting Brock again before Brock retired. After Brock lost the title, he only had the one more number 1 contender fight before he retired. If he had won that fight, Brock would have only had taken the one more title fight regardless of whether he won or lost. He was not in great health back then.
Yeah exactly. His diverticulitis was baad. Don't even know why he rushed back after surgery against ubereem
I could see why Mir wanted to kill Brock. Before and after the bike accident Mir was the poster boy of the heavyweight division and after UFC 100 Brock made him look like a dunce in the sport.
@@mneri84 And Brock is a trash steroid cheat who USADA and the UFC let it happen with no repercussions
i started watching ufc bc of Brock and i hated Frank Mir with a fucking passion when i was in high school, but the headline made it seem like he was dogging Brock which I don’t think he did.
That about kill thing, Mir was just trying to promote the fight. Conor, khamzat, etc so many people have said it but unlike Conor, khamzat,etc Mir ain't Dana's boy while Brock Lesnar was Dana's boy.
He really just asked Frank Mir what was more memorable, losing to Brock Lesnar or Brock Lesnars speech after he left you in a pool of your own blood
Yet people continue to parrot what an incredible interviewer Van Vliet is.
LMAO..EPIC...GLAD THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED
What a stupid question to ask him lol. He deserved a slap for that
He deserved what he got. He was super arrogant against Wrestlers and I very much savored the flavor of him getting his face turned into hamburger meat. Frank is the single only person I flat out hate in all of MMA for his disgusting disrespect.
Might as well have asked him where's the horseshoe at? WHOOOOOO!!!
He does the bare minimum because HE’S OVER. He doesn’t have to do a lot. He had a 60 minute match with Kurt Angle.
He’s over, because Vince has shoved him down the throats while, burying guys like Braun and Joe who would’ve beaten him.
We can’t ignore that part, same with Roman. If you’re the only one given that treatment, of course that’s how it’s gonna be.
Brock’s a HOFer for sure, and deserves the treatment, but let’s give nuance.
McMahan wants to make an Andre type out of him, doesn't want to overuse him . In a Stone Cold Podcast VM said that he doesn't want Brock to be just a week in week out guy, he only wants him for main events. Stone Cold looked at VM as if to say, what about payin his dues like everybody else.
@@roxydog2004
You are speculating with Austin…Brock paid his dues back in 2002
I think this is why wrestling has survived with success for so long. They know wins/losses do not matter, its getting you over that matters that's it. Once you are over, no one cares about your losses. They will pay to see you read a book, or have opinions. When you are over, they just care that you are appearing. The same thing goes for ufc or boxing, but they still think losses matter alot. It's getting you over, getting people to care about you that sells.
@@jerryesque3747 Wins and losses matter a lot. You think John Cena would be this famous losing?? You’re out of your mind. 😂😂
Thank you, Frank Mir. For giving credit and respect to professional wrestling at the beginning. I know the majority of the MMA community are very smug and look down on it. Not everybody can put their body on the line 300 days out of the year. Same way not everybody can step foot in the octagon. Two completely different lifestyles. I respect both.
I don't know if you noticed but big props to Frank for also saying that Brock is more naturally a fighter than a pro wrestler. Because that's something that brock gets shit for more than anything. I still hear how oh Brock's not an MMA fighter he's not a real MMA fighter which is the dumbest thing you can say about Brock Lesnar LOL
I just don't believe most the mma community craps on pro wrestling. I think many a fan watched it growing up and loved it. What I do think happens is, many wrestling fans come over and legit used to talk like they were real fighters. I mean, many really didn't know how fake back in the day wrestling was. I mean these guys legit had a boxing tournament and it was god awful. As both sports have evolved I think there are far many people with your opinion who watch the sports. Wrestling certainly takes a toll on the body and requires some serious skills. We also know that these guys would get demolished in a real fight and people no longer even debate that wrestlers could beat up mma fighters.
@@Dejusticed 100%. I think the worst of it was when Brock came over to MMA and you heard it more from either people that weren't even fans of either sport but played sports so they would comment or would mainly be from MMA fans that didn't understand what wrestling was lol I don't know why they didn't into their MMA fans but they couldn't look past the fact that the guy came from WWE but then had this ridiculous wrestling pedigree just like some of their favorite mma fighters did
@@mastrorj68 he is the dude went straight from nothing to the best of the best in MMA and won a world championship which is kind of crazy
@@Dejusticed the last time wrestling fans thought it was real was the 80's.
Being a life long fan of wrestling and MMA, MMA fans absolutely shit on wrestling fans all the time, to the point where it kind of gets sad to watch how defensive they are over nothing really.
Extremely humble and respectable dialogue from Mir. I only knew him from the Lesnar fight and brief post-retirement comments. Much respect to him. Seems like a great guy.
Mad fuc*ing RESPECT to Mir, MMA LEGEND that doesn't get the respect he deserves. Besides of what he's done in the sport, his knowledge of it is unparalleled.
Why does he deserve respect again? I forgot. He's very forgettable. Remind me?
@@captainwonderbar1657 Great name dumb shit what are you 4? Your life is so forgettable your parents probably dont remember your name😂
I know right. My fav fighter for the longest time. 2 fights with Big Nog 1 with Fedor and 1 with Crro Cop and he won 3 out of 4 of those fights. Not too mention all of his other fights. Man's a living legend....
@@simonbellamy67 lol
He called fights a few times for WEC way back in the day. He was really good as a color commentator. I wish they used him more for that.
Mir could still be a manager. I can see him being one of those managers that gets people easily pissed off. Look at how mad he got Brock. He can do it.
He should be in the legend status that him as the manager of some shooter should be enough to make them over
@@newerest1 Frank is a big guy and usually managers shouldn't be the same size or bigger than the people they're managing. And managers have to be able to cut promos.
I don't think Frank Mir should tarnish his image as a martial artist by dabbling too much in pro-wrestling. MMA sportscasting seems a better fit to me. Just my humble opinion as an MMA and old school wrasslin' fan
I remember always rooting against Frank back in his prime but I really like Frank now. Highly intelligent guy.
Does he seem off to you now? Like perhaps drug abuse?
@@dreams3537 probably on meds for pain unfortunately
Frank got more humble later in life, but when he was champion in his prime, he had a HUGE ego and trash talked a lot of people.
In the media leadup to Brock vs Mir 2, Frank and his camp ridiculed pro wrestling and constantly made fun of Brock and his accomplishments. That's why Brock had so much pent up anger and emotion on Frank even after the fight was over. Frank DID kind of deserve it at the time, lol, he was an asshole.
He’s always had a technical and intelligent approach to fighting. Like a GSP, they’re put the art in martial artist. It makes him cocky. But I rooted for him against Brock because it sold as brain vs brawn
You don't recognize him because he has changed. More chill respectful everyday guy type now. Back in the day a real piece of work. Good for the game was Frank Mir always battling. Getting old mellows you out thats where he is I think. Probably takes meds for various conditions(i know i would need a handful after that career). Hoping he stays fairly healthy and can enjoy life. Deserves it did his job.
Frank you will always be a legend of the sport. Even in some of your losses you were so calm and composed. You put the art in martial arts.
Gayness alert.
My Golden era for MMA was
Strikeforce on Showtime
UFC vets like GSP, Koscheck, Rampage, Machida, Silva, Ubereem,Jones emerging, Shogun becoming champ, Cain out cardioing Mfs, BJ Penn splitting open Diego, Brock v Shane Carwin, Ariel being a great instigator, Ultimate fighter on Spike, Karyn Bryant getting motorboated,Undisputed games online, Dana doing media scrums and giving away tickets in public.
It just felt different then, much bigger and more exciting. Now its over saturated and full of no stars really. Started getting stale when they move to FOX and got with Reebok.
That’s my Golden era too but I’d start mine off with Pride.
UFC was at its peak from 2016-2018, after khabib took out connor, it fell off.
@@ucey-mi2wr I never say this..
You casual af if you think '16-'18.
Tell me you have no idea....
The "oversaturation and no stars" thing will always be weird to me.
I love that there are fights every Saturday for over a month. I used to have no problem binge watching multi disc King of the Cage DVDs back in the day for hours at a time, and there were no big names or stars in those.
MMA fans can be so confusing.
@@JustInOutDoors78 don't call people casuals. I disagree with the guy, I don't think the ufc has ever been better than it is today but don't gatekeep.
That motorcycle accident changed Frank forever. He had excellent fight IQ
THE BIKE ACCIDENT CHANGED HIM TEMPORARILY, THEN HE RECOVERED...JUST LIKE CONOR DID, HE WAS ON A NOSE DIVE IN MMA BEFORE THE BIKE ACCIDENT ANYWAY
@@leelunk8235 I've been following Conor since the Cage Warriors days and he never had any injury remotely severe to Frank's bike accident. The worst for him was the broken ankle during Poirier 3
@@grimmywizard THE BROKEN ANKLE WAS JUST AS BAD AS MIR'S, THEY INSERTED A ROD WITH SCREWS DOWN THERE. AGAIN MIR HAD A FULL RECOVERY AFTER SO DID CONOR, FANBOYS LIKE YOU LIKE USING A BROKEN LEG AS AN EXCUSE, BROCK ALMOST MURDERED THAT KID, ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON
@@leelunk8235 you’re actually pretty Stooopid, The OP never said Brock didn’t kick his ass he’s just saying Frank mirror had a lot of potential before he got into the motorcycle accident
@@leelunk8235 Conor hasn’t fought anyone post broken ankle so we don’t even know if it has effected his fighting yet.
"RESPECT" It was just too difficult for me" coming from a talented MMA fighter. He did great against Brock. Glad he recovered and hope he stays off those motorcycles. Great interview- surprising humility.
Quite refreshing to hear him say what he says, respectful and understanding
Wow, Frank has changed a lot. Fighting took a toll on him in more ways than one.
Time is cruel to us all
Yeah huh,,, Mirs arms seem smaller and he sounds like he’s had it rough with that raspy voice.
@@Bugsybugs97 way smaller maybe he doesn't work out anymore
More like steroids took a toll on him 🤣🤣
@Justin, just saw another video of this same interview where he explains that he lost cartilage to vertebrates 4,5 and 6 .. so that portion of his neck was bone on bone pinching nerves to his arm making him lose strength.. Crazy..
Here’s the link
ruclips.net/video/xTgcT1mVOk4/видео.html
I like Frank a lot now after seeing him give respect to professional wrestlers. Some others disrespect WWE, but I'm glad to see Frank not doing that.
I remember Dan Severn stating he had way more injuries in pro wrestling than he ever did in MMA, and he had 127 fights.
@@legionarybooks13 Ken Shamrock has said the same
Great to see tough SOBs give credit and be honest about how tough wrestling is and how tough u have to be to work in the big leagues! 👍🏻
so far most of the guys who tried both MMA and pro wrestling said that wrestling is harder.
@@IASP17 Yeah, I thought it might be- but Ronda Rousey thinks pro wrestling is easier.
Only after he made fun of Brock for being a pro wrestler and Brock smashed his face in. lol ruclips.net/video/-UTyGhBST8g/видео.html
@@tonypastor705 because she does fuck all
@@tonypastor705 I mean, I wouldn't take ronda's words seriously . Considering how average her performance throughout her wwe career. She's good, just not on becky/charlotte level. But hey, it's just my opinion
Frank looks like he has aged 20 years over the past 5.
Probably the steroids.
No more roids or now doing drugs
@@twerkinalisha7346 of course he came off. The only UFC fighter I even believe is remotely natural is Nate Diaz. And that's because he's vegan and looks average physically despite being legit in the ring.
Was his voice always this raspy
His right arm is made smaller then left… those steroids and drugs fkkd him up
Lesnar v Mir 3 would never happen because although the score is 1-1 realistically Frank would get slaughtered. The first time Frank would have lost had it no been for the ref standing them up giving Frank a huge break allowing him to win. The second fight was so one-sided you can't get a third fight. Frank is a good fighter, but he could not counter the new style heavyweight.
You sound dumb first of all he's retired so your whole comment is irrelevant and Frank did pretty good for coming off a career ending motorcycle injury early on in his career when he won the title and if you were really smart you would know that other divisions yes but the heavyweight division has not really gotten that much better as far as skill besides ciril gagne and that's recent
Yeah the second fight was an uncomfortably long beating lmao I have no idea why Frank would even want a third one.
Almost every fighter has a kryptonite and lesnar was mir’s, his heavy wrestling style with fast twitch muscle fibres, and being much naturally bigger than mir.
What a dog shit take “new style heavyweight.” The “new style” at the time was flexible big guys with dynamic striking Cain and Alistair come to mind.
'New style heavyweight'....being 40 pounds heavier is not a 'style' you muppet....if lesnar weighed the same as mir he'd get annihilated...
*Not a Mir fan, but gotta give him Credit, he's extremely friendly, not an ego-head, and seems to like to genuinely speak. Well done, Frank.*
I've always been a fan but wasn't sure what kind of a dude he was?...seems pretty cool at this point of his life anyways...his skillset was so unique for a heavyweight...could genuinely do it on the ground and on his feet
got humble by lesnar.
@@KORNEWARRIOR And then Lesnar got humbled by Cain. Cain then got humbled by a Prison Sentence.
@@darrellmackinnon1667I don't think Lesnar have ever actually been humbled though. Dude is pure ego & rage.
@mytwosense9135 there is no way Lesnar wasn't humbled by Cain. Cain didn't just beat Lesnar, he flat lined him and won without taking any damage.
Frank Mir was amazing as a fighter.
It's a shame the UFC didn't give him more attention
He was never the same after the motorcycle accident. He could have been the GOAT1
They did.
@Paul Blackman Yes o.k. but please!! who is clean. Marvel comic bodies in UFC and then look at jelly belly Tyson Fury. NFL ripped guys are eating tuna an chicken breast! Yeah right.
@Paul Blackman so did so many others including Lesnar (who btw i like)
@@mikeuyeda2330 Tyson fury literally tested positive for PEDs in the past what are you talking about lol
Mir vs Lesnar 1 was right in the middle of my heyday watching UFC. I was part of that ultimate fighter, Spike TV generation. I had fallen out of it by UFC100 but I damn well tuned in. Maybe one of my favorite fights. The rubber match could have been cool but I'm happy with what we got and thinking 'what if' is usually more fun. Mir has always been such an affable personality. He reminds of a hockey goalie. Weirdly chill for someone comfortable with being hit in the face a lot.
You said you were part of the Spike TV generation so started watching 2005 and were out of it before UFC 100 which was 2009?
Thats really odd.
The fighters have evolved so much since then. It's crazy how amazing the competition is these days.
@@andrewhagan7788 Sport was far more exciting to watch back then. Now it's just fighters not wanting to defend titles and complain about money(even though they make far more money today than ever).
@@Rim00909E Agreed.
@@83442handle was big high school watching. College changed my habits and interests. Plus less trips to bww
one of the misconceptions about pro wrestling is that its just fun and games. But the average person cannot do what those wrestlers do in the ring
No one denies anymore how taxing pro wrestling is on the body mate you’re off on that one
That's true most people couldn't take a back drop
@@richardcrawford1859 I've seen plenty of people who think that everything is all fake and that nobody even gets bruised.
@SINNER TV thats funny considering his gimmick Mr socko was him putting a sock on.
The average person doesn’t stand a chance. The way above average person still would have a hard time being a pro wrestler. The amount of abuse they take is uncanny
I hadn't seen a Frank Mir interview before. I gotta say from what I'm seeing he looks like a pretty level headed and decent guy
well the horshoe brock ripped out of his ass and beat him over the head with is now out so he can stop thinking about it LOL
Frank is one of the most articulate and intelligent fighters there is. Say what you will about the last half of his career - but that doesn't take away how well spoken he is.
Frank much love and respect for putting out there how much damage wrestlers take even when choreographed. Overr the last 40 years of being a fan I have seen the broken old wrestlers when they retire. Some of them broken so badly it hurts to watch them move.
That was actually a great interview… Props
I remember watching ufc 100 as my first ufc event when I was 13. Lesnar was the only person I knew because I was big into wwe when I was a kid. My uncle was a huge ufc fan so it was a cool crossover to see Lesnar in the ufc. That one event sparked my love for the ufc and I've been a die hard fan since.
I just looked at Mir's record because Nogueira was the first guy I thought of as his "rival". Holy shit, the names he fought are insane. Damn near every heavyweight legend in the sport.
Yeah man, he was around back in the days. :)
Mir is a legend himself, honestly.
Frank Mir is one of the old school mma legends. He’s lost a lot of weight/muscle here. Always comes across as intelligent and well spoken and genuine. Hope he is doing well
Yeah , especially when a mild mannered talk host looks more buff 😂 *Frank Mir= legend 🙏
Thsts what I'm saying. His right arms so small compared to left arm
I heard a pro wrestler once say, "If you think this is 'fake', then come and step into the ring with me. I will slam you with a 'fake' throw. I will slam my "fake" forearm into your 'fake' face. I will kick your 'fake' stomach with my 'fake' leg. You can then ride on the 'fake' ambulance, which will take you to the 'fake' hospital, and they will perform 'fake' surgery on you."
I'm not a choreographed wrestling fan, loved it as a kid, but those dudes do that shit 2 to 3 hundred times a year. Pretty crazy. They are legit stuntmen.
@@rahamanawelenje9955 You can watch movies though, can't you? It's the exact same thing.
@@rahamanawelenje9955 ??? Movies are not "authentic". The only difference between a movie and professional wrestling is that a movie has scenes and extensive editing to hide mistakes. Wrestling shows are live, which is why mistakes happen, and also why the people doing them must be professionals. No average joe could perform those moves without a much higher risk of injury. Both movies and wrestling require suspension of disbelief to be enjoyable. When you're watching an action film, you don't question why the main character has a seemingly infinite supply of ammo, or how his enemies all shoot like Stormtroopers. It's the same thing in wrestling, so saying you can't enjoy wrestling because it's fake, while enjoying movies for being fake makes you a hypocrite.
@@rahamanawelenje9955 I just did. And yeah, I know it tries to pretend it's a sport. It's called kayfabe, but it's been pretty much dead since the internet came around. It's literally acting in the same way that actors act in movies. Wrestling is just like the movies whether you want to believe it or not.
@@rahamanawelenje9955 Movies are authentic? Most movies nowadays are made in front of a green screen!!
Played by actors pretending to be batman or whoever.
Movies are authentic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They get to edit out mistakes, wrestlers don't.
@@richardsinclair7661 The main difference is movies are more immersive than pro wrestling. At least in my opinion 🤷
I remember Mir talking mad shit about wrestling he switched up
Haha yes I remember as well!!! That was when we was training for Brock
It's not easy so you'll be sure to change your mind with actual experience and this is with anything talked about.
He changed his mind after the absolute beating Brock gave him in the second fight
@@benjack8477 Cringe
@@benjack8477 FACT~! NEARLY SEVERED HIS BEAN BAG HEAD
Frank Mir respecting Pro Wrestling so much is music to my ears. What a man!
Bc the last time he disrespected it Brock Lesnar almost gave him brain damage
@@O0dZ-x5e lol
Fake wrestling is for children and very slow adults
He had to be put in his place first
He did one match in Josh Barnett's Bloodsport promotion which is understandable because Bloodsport fits more his style
Brock is one of the best professional wrestlers ever.
MMA FIGHTERS TOO
Someone need to show this clip to Joe Rogan and Dana White and all these other haters that say this ain't a real sport compared to mma and boxing. This is a legendary heavyweight admitting a truth that no-one wants to admit too.
Pro wrestling is more work and athletically inclined than MMA and I'll die on that
Didnt know how much I like listening to Frank. I remember watching him when I was a teenager defeat Brock Lesnar. NOBODY thought that was going to happen haha. Great show thank you!
Pro wrestling is difficult, but it doesn't have to be as dangerous as it is now. People are doing insane moves and taking ridiculous bumps for no reason. It doesn't have to be that dangerous.
a very wise man once said.....Back in the day in pro wrestling people barely touched and you had fans coming over the rails.....Now guys are smashing into one another and you hear golf claps......
Agreed I’m a wrestling fan til I die and todays era of wrestling stars be doing to much to please the fans
If I was a wrestler I would be a balance wrestler
That does holds, strikes and some mild excitement moves
Listen to the casual
@@jmissle very well said!! As Corny once said, it used to be that you could deck a guy with a roll of quarters and you had an angle for months. Now though, you could smash a guy with a sledgehammer or run him over with a semi, and people just yawn and go oh well, can't mourn forever, and have a midget match. Guys are about getting a pop instead of producing quality work. They don't sell anything. As I've said many many times before on other posts, if they don't sell (moves), why should I buy into the product/moves?
Not wrestling anymore. Its more a violent circus. I am old school so Brett Hart Curt Henning guys like this is what I wanna see. Flying through the air gets old. Ric Flair old school man. Jumping 30 feet through the air and landing on a few guys don't sound healthy to me.
Interviewer spends the whole video asking about Brock.
Frank: "If they're casuals they ask about Brock"
Mir was VERY close to having a trilogy fight w/ Brock. If he would've won the fight w/ Carwin, he was lined up to fight for the title. Which was held by Brock at the time.
Carwin had Brock in that title fight, too. Had him wobbled multiple times. Then decided to wrestle.
@@MoreBuffMoreMuff He decided to wrestle because he was absolutely gassed. Carwin's power was as scary as Ngannou's is now back in the day but unfortunately he would gas out. Loved watching him back in the day
@@Procks_ you're dead on. Them real wrestlers have like unlimited stamina. Still kudos to Brock though. He had to put in all the work.
@@Procks_ To be fair, Shane threw everything he had at Brock, trying to overwhelm and finish him. When you throw everything you have at someone and combine with a big adrenaline dump, the gas tank goes fast. It's like Mark Coleman said "it's a big engine that burns a lot of fuel".
@@Omega-h4e Carwin is a wrestler. He was NCAA division 2 champion. He's just insanely strong and had tnt in his hands so he liked standing and banging because 90% the other guy would get knocked out. But he had no gas tank, which was always a problem with the stronger and bigger HWs. Which is why most of the top HWs were smaller guys like Cain, Big Nog, Couture, Stipe and Fedor.
Respect to Frank for his humility. He's had a rough tough career. I wish him the best in life and health
Always enjoy watching fights and listening to FM
Great interview by Frank
the reason brock doesnt do the crazy bumps anymore is probably because he gets scared he would get a career ending injury because of what happened with kurt angle at mania
True story 💯
Respect to this man!
Mir doesn't know anyone in the industry. He might talk to some indy guys that have never been in the wwe, but Brock's reputation as a worker is pretty great according to most wrestlers.
Always loved Frank mir new lvl of respect tho listening to him talk about pro wrestling cvv coming thru again man's smashing it last couple yrs much love from cross the pond brother
He does the bare minimum and still bested many , many, many , MANY wrestlers out there when it comes to agility, speed, strenght, ring psychology and charisma.
He did a lot of roids too. I’m sure that helped
@@SlayersOfYou even without anabolics he's still a freak naturally
@@SlayersOfYou "Everyone's on steriods"-Nate diaz
@@PentaRaus I'm not talking about the rigged part of wrestling rather Lesnar's athleticism and charisma that also helped him becoming UFC top star even in defeat
@@SlayersOfYou buddy you probably not even sure what to eat on lunch tomorrow, how can you be sure that roids helped him out? Roids are not a magic potion that grants you skills , yet Lesnar is a skilled wrestler/fighter regardless of roids
Apparently the bare minimum still involves a whole heck of a lot of working out.
pretty sure he was just talking about the promotional side of things.
Mir doesn't watch WWE, so it's just what he heard
I do have to say I honestly believe Frank Mir could’ve been the greatest heavyweight ever. Unfortunately that motorcycle accident fucked everything up. But give the dude his credit, he swung with, and beat some of the best the sport has seen.
Truth! Trauma to body and mind and he went right back to fighting
@@IgnatiusCheese right? I honestly never was a big fan of Mir. But like you said, even after that bad wreck he still came back and competed for years at the pro lvl. I kept catching myself giving him the nod. Now in hindsight. A prime lvl Mir with no accident trauma, vs a prime Fedor….I would have to be strapped down and given a iv drip
@Paul Blackman I’m sure the dude has taken some type of steroid throughout his career. He’s had plenty of injuries. And even if they were just for performance, do you think he’s the only guy to do it? Almost every fighter uses what they can to get better. I don’t agree with it, I think it rots your organs. But almost everybody is on some type of hormone
Frank was on his way to being the best heavyweight at the time but yea the accident destroyed his legs. That accident probably also led to increased drinking and probably opioid abuse.
There are a LOT of could haves that get sidelined by accidents. Real shame.
WWE has been chewing up and spitting out human beings for 50+ years. If Brock is smart enough to do the bare minimum, and not put himself at risk while taking home a hell of a paycheck, then he’s a smart man.
I like Mir. I wish he wouldnt have had his bike accident. Frank wouldve been a multi time champ easily without that major set back.
Doing the bare minimum to cash the cheque is peak pro wrestling
Hey, it worked for bodyslam, big boot, leg-drop, gimme my paycheck Hogan....
Frank was a great heavyweight champ and an awesome fighter - striking and grappling.
When a champion turns down the opportunity for a rubber match, especially against someone who made it look a bit easy in the first fight, something smells a little fishy.
And let's remember, if it was anyone other than Lesnar (at the time the UFC's perceived cash cow) that Shane Carwin was pounding on for about 4 straight minutes, that fight would have been stopped.
I dunno, Shane blew himself up & Lesnar was still defending himself. I think round 2 proved that he wasn't nearly as damaged as people believed him to be.
Why does his right arm look so small?
I think it’s from a bad motorcycle accident he had several years ago
Obviously he uses his left hand to jerk off duh
Dude was Heavychamp, defeated Culture, Shane and Mir.
That's an elite fighter, period...
The bit he ripped is called the septum.
damn Frank Mir looks so different now.
I love me some Frank Mir; such a cool guy!
Imagine if brock went into training mma in 2000-01 instead of pro wrestling he would have been the best ever
Imagine if Frank Mir never got into the motorcycle accident, he would have been the best ever.
@@travism7856 Brock woulda still kicked his ass
How did that last fight with Brock go frank?
Met Frank a few years back at a seminar, really friendly and conversational. Took pictures and signed gloves for my son.
One of the biggest MMA what ifs, what if Mir never had the motorcycle accident? I think he would have ended up on the Mt. Rushmore of heavyweights.
I think the same but it sure seems like no one here knows to much about that, he had it all when it came to MMA.
Yeah Mir would have been champ for a long time, I don't think anyone was on his level at that point.
Frank Mir IS the bare minimum. He was the king of excuses in MMA.
Frank Mir is a very intelligent man to say the least, and a mixed-martial artists of the highest level. His honesty and experience with pro wrestling is succinct and informative in a way that makes me appreciate both sports even more.
not the first time someone said brock did the bare minimum for the check lol
Say what you will about Brock, but he has been a main eventer since he laced up wrestling boots or MMA gloves. Sure, he is juiced to the gills... but he is a beast.
It's obvious the interviewer doesn't watch Brock in wwe nowadays because that man can cut a damn promo. He's been cutting damn good promos for a good while now. Before he used to be the quiet guy and paul Heyman would do all the talking. Now it's all him and he excels at it.
Also, Brock was a NCAA Div 1 heavyweight national champ.
So, for those making the "fake wrestling" comments save it.
These same people forget Severn also was a "pro wrestler" for a stint and so was Angle who won gold at the Olympics.
Frank in another interview mentioned how other UFC fighters were oblivious to that. They were saying "teach the phoney what real competition is all about".
Respect for Frank Mir! He is a warrior in life and in the cage!
Mir not remembering Vanderlei's nickname is acceptable after so many blows to the head. The interviewer struggling to remember the Axe Murderer just shows he's not knowledgeable about MMA.
MMA is a sport where you may get hurt.
Pro wrestling is a stage performance where you will get hurt.
Probably still mad Brock beat his ass in the second fight he even did in the first fight but frank is just too good at submissions and in the minute and 30 seconds the fight went on he dominated the first minute and 20 seconds but ultimately the more experienced frank pulled one out
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If the ref didn't stand them up Mir would have lost.
Watching Frank's face getting punched in on the second fight with Brock was very tough to watch. I've always liked Frank Mir regardless he's had some great victories but unfortunately a lot of losses too
All these haters talking crap about a guy that could literally throw you across a room through dry-wall in a cowboy outfit.
Frank Mir is a good underrated Fighter in UFC History and a nice Guy. Respect to him that he respects Pro Wrestler so much👍👍👍👌🌹
*'It's pretty hard to un-scramble eggs'*
He can do the bare minimum cause he's always a draw and doesn't need to go all out and potentially injure himself. It's good for a longer career
Brock doesn't want to be like Mick Foley body wise and other guys who killed their bodies in their career.
From what I've read, he's got a pretty sweet deal $$-wise with WWE. I think he knows Vince will let him do how much he wants, whenever he feels like it, so that's why we get some "barn burner" 5 minute Main Event Wrestlemania matches from Brock.
What most people don’t understand is Brock’s a 1 of 1
- A legitimate All-American and a National champion on two levels junior college and division 1, 6’3 295 pounds could bench 400 pounds, ran a 4.640, could throw 500 pounds around like nothing while simultaneously having the ability and agility to do a shooting star press, competed in 3 professional sports, that’s literally like unmatched
What professional sports?
@@Wonderkid44 Football, UFC, Collegiate Wrestling
Does the bare minimum but yet he won the UFC heavyweight title in a few fights? Shut up Frank
Does anyone actually watch the videos these days? He was talking about what he'd heard people say about Brock's wrestling career.
Frank has always been a big headed guy I'm actually glad Brock pummeled him
Had it handed to him, he didn’t even beat anyone worth a shit, he got dominated than ram like a little girl.
@@Xnovality What is it with internet MMA fans that they think they can refer to fighters as though they're bullying their little brothers? Frank did what he needed to do for our entertainment and has now got CTE for his troubles. Maybe you have a little brother who runs like a little girl. How your simile fits into the Frank Mir story, I have no idea at all.
@@Xnovality do you mean Brock ?
Frank comes across well, thanks for some great memories, i loved that era,
thanks for the kind words about wrestling
It must feel horrible to know that the bare minimum was enough to defeat the mighty frank Mir
Hey dingus, Frank was referring to Brock's current WWE career, not his time in the UFC.
The bare minimum comment was about Lesnar in the WWE
Big fan of Frank, seems super cool too, but you can absolutely tell the cte or other cognitive damage has begun by his speech patterns and forgetfulness. It’s a brutal sport
Even to someone Frank has a clear distasteful history with able to give level headed answers. And even be complimentary about brock. True professional.
Yeah considering how bad this feud was at the time. Mir was pretty level headed about him, even somewhat complimentary. I think at the time Mir said he hoped to be the first person to kill someone in ring. and at end brock laughed and yelled at a bloody Mir when he was trying to shake hands. Id like to think if these guys sat down and had a beer together, theyd be friends. But its probhably more likely they'd fight again.
@@thenewyearsgrinch Yeah he said some outlandish stuff he had to walk back.
Lesnar vs Mir III didn’t happen because Carwin beat Mir nearly to death.
This is obviously stuff Frank heard 2nd/3rd hand as he isn't talking about his time in UFC at all. He's not really accusing Brock, he's essentially just saying the rumor he heard.
All I know is there are guys like Goldberg who come in, barely cut promos, work 5 minutes and leave. Now THAT'S what I consider the bare minimum. When Brock is there he actually works like he's not watching the clock the whole time. He does plenty of long segments and works plenty of long matches. He may not be there every week but when he's there he's good to go.
I forgot who said this, I think it was one of the women but they said that Brock Lesnar watches every segment and match from gorilla position and gives feedback to wrestlers
I don't think he's being disrespectful to Brock, I think he does respect him. When he says "bare minimum" he was saying that's his understanding from talking to people in the industry since he doesn't really watch WWE. And to clarify why people would say that, it's because post-2012 Brock's move set in WWE became extremely limited and simple. My understanding is that he started doing that to reduce the risk of injury and his declining health due to his diverticulitis and substance abuse was taking a toll on him. But more recently over the past year or so Brock seems to have greatly improved his health and does put in huge effort into his work, he just doesn't take unnecessary risks to his health anymore by doing dangerous high spots. If you wanna see peak Lesnar in WWE check him out on Smackdown in 2002/2003 era. He was roided, on pills, on the vodka, and doing all kinds of wild shit in the ring 😄🤠 He said he learned to stop doing stupid shit in the ring after he damn near paralyzed himself with the shooting star press on Kurt Angle at Wrestlemania.
From everything I've heard since Brock returned, he has been doing anything but the minimum. I've heard plenty of younger stars talk about how he has sat in the gorilla position and offered advice to young up and comers. He apparently is very approachable and is having a great time helping others.
My biggest problem with Brock and his MMA career was his refusal to train striking and be hit in training. He could never ascend to the top without shoring up that aspect of his game. For all the God-given talent he had he simply never got comfortable taking strikes. This is the reason Kurt Angle never attempted to fight. When he and Lesnar legitimately rolled Kurt would dominate but he knew he didn't want to get punched in the face. If Brock would have came in five years earlier, and trained striking hard, he may have been the best ever. I 'm not saying he would have been an elite striker, but he could have become passable and more importantly not panic when he took heavy strikes.
You can train striking without getting punched. In fact, most people spar way to much.
@@jwatson181 Not when you have an issue taking strikes. He never got to a place where he was remotely comfortable taking strikes. He would go into panic mode way too fast
This is how people need to learn to be educated like Frank Mir, he gives credit where it’s due and doesn’t try and take things away from someone
Always liked this man. My first UFC fighter I noticed and admired. He seems to be normal, humble and intelligent. All the best to you Mr. Mir 👍