Excellent video as always AIN ! :) IMHO, I compare business-jets segments with motor-vehicle segments like this. I could be wrong/mistaken about certain details because a proper one-for-one comparison cannot be made due to differences in cars & aircraft, but this is the example I usually use. 1) Bizliners (ACJ, BBJ) = RVs..........Those fancy converted buses which have all possible luxury features & lots of space but are too big for use in small areas. But then again, as long as you are not driving/parking it yourself, then it doesn't matter really. The luxury factor depends on the client of course, so one can get a spartan RV or one can get a luxurious RV that makes Rolls-Royces & Bentleys feel less VFM. Everything can be had in an RV from king-size-beds to showers, to full-size-kitchens, etc. none of which can be had in a car. The sheer space is unparalleled & with that space comes the opportunities to use it. Cargo capacity of the RV too blows away even large sedans like the Phantom because their entire boot-space is just 1-luggage-compartment in the belly of the RV. Of course, operating costs are going to be higher compared to the cars, but the value is in the eyes of the owner/customer-who-rents-it. Spare parts & crew are easy to find because the commonalities with regular buses are high so no need to wait for weeks/months just for some dealership to get hold of that exclusive/rare part. Similarly ACJ/BBJ provide lots of space and parts & crew are easier to find due to widespread usage of these aircraft-families (Airbus-A320 & Boeing-737) in the commercial-airline-industry. 2) Extra-Large-Business-Jets (Global-7500 & Gulfstream-G700) = Rolls-Royce-Phantom & Bentley-Mulsanne..........These jets are the top of the line in their category (business-jet) and are the pinnacle of aspiration (unless one is rich/flexible enough to consider ACJ, BBJ). Just like how a Phantom/Mulsanne might win out on it's design, exclusivity but loses out on space, comfort, features, etc. compared to an RV. I would not consider quality in this case because a heavily-optioned & well-built RV could easily fight (& even win) with a Phantom/Mulsanne just like how a heavily-optioned & well-built ACJ/BBJ can fight with a G7500, G700. For those who don't want the burden of a big-vehicle, but want as much space as possible within the category, there is no better option. 3) Large-Business-Jets (Falcon-900/6X/7X & Gulfstream-G500/600/650/650ER & Global-5000/6000/8000) = Mercedes-S-Class (including Maybach) & Bentley-Flying-Spur..........These jets are not the ultimate in size & comfort, but are not far behind to be honest. They lack the space & exclusivity factor of their elder-brothers but not by that much. 4) Midsize-Business-Jets (Falcon-2000 & Challenger-350/650 & Legacy-450/500, Praetor-500/600) = Mercedes-E-Class & BMW-5-Series.......The midsize which lack the space, tech & "cool-factor" of the bigger jets, but make more sense financially. 5) Small-Business-Jets (Cessnas, Hawkers, Learjets, Phenoms, Eclipse, etc.) = Mercedes-C-Class & BMW-3-Series......The small jets can be compared to the small premium-cars. The quality might be good, the tech might be average (not as good as the tech in the big-jets) but the space is quite tight. Only reason for buying/chartering these jets, IMHO, would be a pressing need for a private-jet without needing to spend much compared to bigger jets. For some others, it might be a question of ego-satisfaction because flying private in a matchbox somehow is "better" than flying business-class or first-class on a commercial-airline. Of course, the benefits of business-aviation are available (no lines at FBOs, smooth transfers, etc.) but do such benefits really matter when it comes at the cost of comfort (especially since quite a few of these small jets lack toilets or have crude/primitive implementations), I'm not quite sure about that. For a quick "hop-on-hop-off" flight I'm sure it's not much of an issue (urgent-corporate/personal-travels needed at last moment) but otherwise I wouldn't really recommend such aircraft for chartering or ownership. Before anyone pulls me up for the categorization of the business-jets, I must clarify that I categorize them only on basis of the number of cabin-zones they have because IMHO a small cabin is suffocating be it for 20-minute or 2-hour flight whereas a big-cabin is great be it for a 15-minute or even a 10-hour flight. Marketing fluff like "super-midsize" is something I don't consider. So IHMO, this is how I classify (similar to clothing, lol) :--- 1) Bizliners = Airliners converted to business-jets. 2) Extra-Large-Business-Jet = 4 cabin zones 3) Large-Business-Jet = 3 cabin zones 4) Medium-Business-Jet = 2 cabin zones 5) Small-Business-Jet = 1 cabin zone
Thanks for the well-composed thoughts. One reason that someone might consider a small business jet over flying commercially aside from no lines, transfers, etc, is that as with any private aircraft, the passengers choose when to travel as it suits their requirements, potentially allowing someone to visit multiple cities in a day. Also, a private aircraft can connect two airports that might otherwise require layovers in a commercial aircraft, or they can go to airports that commercial aircraft don't service at all. Thanks for watching, and please keep commenting!
@@AINvideo Agreed ! One shameless request though, I lost the "Heart" you gave for my comment because I edited it (needed to put Falcon-900 in the large-business-jet category, instead of the medium-size category ), can you heart it again please ? My first one ever on RUclips and by one of my longtime favourite channels ! :)
I flew a corporate BAC 1-11 back in the 80’s so flying around in a converted airliner is what it’s all about. A G-650 is nice, but there’s just something different about these types of aircraft. I miss those days.
Even if you guys re-upload many more times it's ok. This is probably the only media organization whose videos are ASMR ! I could just put on a playlist of AIN-videos and chill ! Classy & Calming ! Great job AIN team, love your videos !
Excellent video, indeed. I liked the point that it's the same if not cheaper to maintain than a smaller private jet. One question, I assume they can fly on SAF?
Thumbs-UP #130 I am Tuesday evening 10 March 2020! You folks I am glad to say never disappoint in your presentation so far. Your choice of decor is beautiful, your choice of fixtures always impress.
This was actually tested. One test put the G650 at 450-475 gallons per hour while the neo version of the ACJ burns around 575 gallons per hour. That's what $400 - $800 more per hour for ACJneo fuel? You might be able to make this up with training and maintenance - especially engine maintenance? ACJ airframe would also be higher though. Airbus might have a point regarding costs.
@@shadowmist1246 Good Point ! Wish more people thought like this rather than irrationally hating on Bizliners just because they are "traditionalists" who prefer the usual business jets.
@@parimal7528 The premise of B007, the lead commentor for this thread was challenging (rightfully so) this video's Airbus rep making multiple economic arguments for the ACJ. I thought it important to provide some data regarding the topic to see what the actual facts are. The facts appear to be that with all things considered, the ACJ is still more expensive to operate than a G650 or Global 7500 but not by much and certainly not to a point that would sway people away from ACJ. But that's just operating cost. There is also the $30M difference between the video's Airbus rep quoted price of the ACJ319 and the top Gulfstream and Bombardier. At the end of the day, these airliner converts have there advantages at the expense of speed and altitude for those that essentially need the space.
@@shadowmist1246 Yes you are right. I did not mean a "one-size-fits-all" approach. What I had in mind is that the VIP can charter a helicopter/turboprop/light-jet to reach the last airport in case the ACJ/BBJ is too big which is an approach that works in Asia & Africa because most airports are built for narrowbody domestic airliners due to the small numbers of general & business aviation. Maybe once Asia & Africa become like USA (where small airports outnumber the airliner-capable airports), then we might see the ACJ/BBJ become less VFM in terms of the flexibility it offers.
@@parimal7528 The advantages of space in BBJ/ACJ, compared to large-business-jets, is mentioned in this documentary about Private-Jets. I have given the direct link to the part where they cover this topic. ruclips.net/video/5_JCPFvm8nc/видео.html The ramp-appeal of an ACJ/BBJ is very high compared to a "usual" business-jet. They just look great, IMHO, and have that comforting/homely feel unlike the traditional-business-jets which invoke fear/dread (for long flights) due to their narrow cabins which induce claustrophobia. In the second-link from 14:37 onwards we can see Abramovich's 767 (P4-MES) and at 16:53 we see the 767 and Essar's BBJ-1 (N301SR) at St.Maarten airport standing next to a NetJets G550 making it (& other business jets) look like merely a light or midsize jets in comparison. ruclips.net/video/IHScdHG8bRY/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Y34T2SRjsIA/видео.html Your points about getting parts & repairs easily on ACJ/BBJ is true. Check out this ex-G650 pilot (who flew for Qualcomm based on her LinkedIn profile) who mentions some issues in G650 which she faced, one of which was the fact that G650 needs a different towbar which the local airport did not have. Luckily for them, they happened to carry the towbar in the cargo otherwise they would have been stuck at the airport. She mentions that they always had to worry about whether the airport they visit would have the parts needed in case of any issues. ruclips.net/video/kzaxY8dSLGE/видео.html
@Brisdad53 That was not a comparison comment by Emroj Times and by the way, nobody compares a G650ER with a 7X; an 8X maybe. It's probably better that you be a silent unintelligent ignorant troll than to comment and prove it.
Excellent video as always AIN ! :)
IMHO, I compare business-jets segments with motor-vehicle segments like this. I could be wrong/mistaken about certain details because a proper one-for-one comparison cannot be made due to differences in cars & aircraft, but this is the example I usually use.
1) Bizliners (ACJ, BBJ) = RVs..........Those fancy converted buses which have all possible luxury features & lots of space but are too big for use in small areas. But then again, as long as you are not driving/parking it yourself, then it doesn't matter really. The luxury factor depends on the client of course, so one can get a spartan RV or one can get a luxurious RV that makes Rolls-Royces & Bentleys feel less VFM. Everything can be had in an RV from king-size-beds to showers, to full-size-kitchens, etc. none of which can be had in a car. The sheer space is unparalleled & with that space comes the opportunities to use it. Cargo capacity of the RV too blows away even large sedans like the Phantom because their entire boot-space is just 1-luggage-compartment in the belly of the RV. Of course, operating costs are going to be higher compared to the cars, but the value is in the eyes of the owner/customer-who-rents-it. Spare parts & crew are easy to find because the commonalities with regular buses are high so no need to wait for weeks/months just for some dealership to get hold of that exclusive/rare part. Similarly ACJ/BBJ provide lots of space and parts & crew are easier to find due to widespread usage of these aircraft-families (Airbus-A320 & Boeing-737) in the commercial-airline-industry.
2) Extra-Large-Business-Jets (Global-7500 & Gulfstream-G700) = Rolls-Royce-Phantom & Bentley-Mulsanne..........These jets are the top of the line in their category (business-jet) and are the pinnacle of aspiration (unless one is rich/flexible enough to consider ACJ, BBJ). Just like how a Phantom/Mulsanne might win out on it's design, exclusivity but loses out on space, comfort, features, etc. compared to an RV. I would not consider quality in this case because a heavily-optioned & well-built RV could easily fight (& even win) with a Phantom/Mulsanne just like how a heavily-optioned & well-built ACJ/BBJ can fight with a G7500, G700. For those who don't want the burden of a big-vehicle, but want as much space as possible within the category, there is no better option.
3) Large-Business-Jets (Falcon-900/6X/7X & Gulfstream-G500/600/650/650ER & Global-5000/6000/8000) = Mercedes-S-Class (including Maybach) & Bentley-Flying-Spur..........These jets are not the ultimate in size & comfort, but are not far behind to be honest. They lack the space & exclusivity factor of their elder-brothers but not by that much.
4) Midsize-Business-Jets (Falcon-2000 & Challenger-350/650 & Legacy-450/500, Praetor-500/600) = Mercedes-E-Class & BMW-5-Series.......The midsize which lack the space, tech & "cool-factor" of the bigger jets, but make more sense financially.
5) Small-Business-Jets (Cessnas, Hawkers, Learjets, Phenoms, Eclipse, etc.) = Mercedes-C-Class & BMW-3-Series......The small jets can be compared to the small premium-cars. The quality might be good, the tech might be average (not as good as the tech in the big-jets) but the space is quite tight. Only reason for buying/chartering these jets, IMHO, would be a pressing need for a private-jet without needing to spend much compared to bigger jets. For some others, it might be a question of ego-satisfaction because flying private in a matchbox somehow is "better" than flying business-class or first-class on a commercial-airline. Of course, the benefits of business-aviation are available (no lines at FBOs, smooth transfers, etc.) but do such benefits really matter when it comes at the cost of comfort (especially since quite a few of these small jets lack toilets or have crude/primitive implementations), I'm not quite sure about that. For a quick "hop-on-hop-off" flight I'm sure it's not much of an issue (urgent-corporate/personal-travels needed at last moment) but otherwise I wouldn't really recommend such aircraft for chartering or ownership.
Before anyone pulls me up for the categorization of the business-jets, I must clarify that I categorize them only on basis of the number of cabin-zones they have because IMHO a small cabin is suffocating be it for 20-minute or 2-hour flight whereas a big-cabin is great be it for a 15-minute or even a 10-hour flight. Marketing fluff like "super-midsize" is something I don't consider. So IHMO, this is how I classify (similar to clothing, lol) :---
1) Bizliners = Airliners converted to business-jets.
2) Extra-Large-Business-Jet = 4 cabin zones
3) Large-Business-Jet = 3 cabin zones
4) Medium-Business-Jet = 2 cabin zones
5) Small-Business-Jet = 1 cabin zone
Thanks for the well-composed thoughts. One reason that someone might consider a small business jet over flying commercially aside from no lines, transfers, etc, is that as with any private aircraft, the passengers choose when to travel as it suits their requirements, potentially allowing someone to visit multiple cities in a day. Also, a private aircraft can connect two airports that might otherwise require layovers in a commercial aircraft, or they can go to airports that commercial aircraft don't service at all. Thanks for watching, and please keep commenting!
@@AINvideo Agreed ! One shameless request though, I lost the "Heart" you gave for my comment because I edited it (needed to put Falcon-900 in the large-business-jet category, instead of the medium-size category ), can you heart it again please ? My first one ever on RUclips and by one of my longtime favourite channels ! :)
@@abcgogo934 Thanks for watching our channel. We've re-hearted your comment. Please share the channel with your friends!
@@AINvideo Thank you so much !!! :D It means a lot coming from one of my longtime favourite channels !!! :D
Splendid! Excellent perception! You must consider journalism in Aviation! Good luck
I flew a corporate BAC 1-11 back in the 80’s so flying around in a converted airliner is what it’s all about. A G-650 is nice, but there’s just something different about these types of aircraft. I miss those days.
why not have both?
Beautiful. I love the interior colors. It's warm not cold. Very nice. Blessed are those can experience this. Live the dream!
A220 would make a heck of a business jet. :)
Wish Granted
Sorry for the re-upload. We had to make a fix on the video. Thanks for watching!
3rd time's a charm.
It's one of those days!
@@AINvideo When its done, head down to the local taproom, grab a cold one and say, at least I work for a great aviation news channel.
Even if you guys re-upload many more times it's ok. This is probably the only media organization whose videos are ASMR ! I could just put on a playlist of AIN-videos and chill ! Classy & Calming ! Great job AIN team, love your videos !
@@abcgogo934 That's funny abc gogo. I don't think AIN is aiming for "sedative sensation". That would be a failure on their part.
Very good idea of Airbus to pursue this market segment. Amazing product! Thanks
Excellent video, indeed. I liked the point that it's the same if not cheaper to maintain than a smaller private jet. One question, I assume they can fly on SAF?
Gorgeous aircrafts
Do they fly higher than normal passenger airliners would fly?
i hope embraer will launch an executive e195 e2 to succeed the lineage 1000
good demo
Is it as noisy as commercial jets given the engines are in the middle?
I imagine the Gulfstream etc are quieter due to engines at rear ?
Hey that’s my personal jet ✈️ lol.
It's a motorhome with wings 😀
😂😂😂
Looking forward great 👍 flying one day great 👍🇦🇺
Thumbs-UP #130 I am Tuesday evening 10 March 2020! You folks I am glad to say never disappoint in your presentation so far. Your choice of decor is beautiful, your choice of fixtures always impress.
Atleast This Is Enough CPC..... Alhamdulillah Inshallah By God Allah Subhan Taala Will Guidance Grace and Blessings Alhamdulillah Inshallah STAW......
How will it hold value if it will depreciate 3 percent ?!
he said hold its value better than the other plane at 6%
Learn to listen. It holds it's value BETTER than many others.
@@ARTDEVGRU247 You should learn to listen, the first comment is right.
@@litamtondy what are you talking about? Are you brain dead?
Quando custa esse avião?
Very nice..
What's the Cost?
ACJneo narrowbody family will be more likely in the sky as the Max circumstances🛫🤓
Wasn't that jet for 19 people?
Newell Tunnel
idk.. 120 years ago we couldn't even fly a bycicle..
Don't u mean* ride a bike
Now bicycle can fly...
Hayley Estate
Wow only $100 million to own one. Niccceeeee
Only??? Do you have $100 million to get it?
@@shushshushshush6319 only $100,000,000.99
✈️✌️💫
wider and taller
Absolutely Incredible❤️🔥1!$¥£€₱
Farrell Islands
Dibbert Village
Dont talk about fuel burn rate, dont talk about fuel burn rate...
This was actually tested. One test put the G650 at 450-475 gallons per hour while the neo version of the ACJ burns around 575 gallons per hour. That's what $400 - $800 more per hour for ACJneo fuel? You might be able to make this up with training and maintenance - especially engine maintenance? ACJ airframe would also be higher though. Airbus might have a point regarding costs.
@@shadowmist1246 Good Point ! Wish more people thought like this rather than irrationally hating on Bizliners just because they are "traditionalists" who prefer the usual business jets.
@@parimal7528 The premise of B007, the lead commentor for this thread was challenging (rightfully so) this video's Airbus rep making multiple economic arguments for the ACJ. I thought it important to provide some data regarding the topic to see what the actual facts are. The facts appear to be that with all things considered, the ACJ is still more expensive to operate than a G650 or Global 7500 but not by much and certainly not to a point that would sway people away from ACJ. But that's just operating cost. There is also the $30M difference between the video's Airbus rep quoted price of the ACJ319 and the top Gulfstream and Bombardier. At the end of the day, these airliner converts have there advantages at the expense of speed and altitude for those that essentially need the space.
@@shadowmist1246 Yes you are right. I did not mean a "one-size-fits-all" approach. What I had in mind is that the VIP can charter a helicopter/turboprop/light-jet to reach the last airport in case the ACJ/BBJ is too big which is an approach that works in Asia & Africa because most airports are built for narrowbody domestic airliners due to the small numbers of general & business aviation. Maybe once Asia & Africa become like USA (where small airports outnumber the airliner-capable airports), then we might see the ACJ/BBJ become less VFM in terms of the flexibility it offers.
@@parimal7528 The advantages of space in BBJ/ACJ, compared to large-business-jets, is mentioned in this documentary about Private-Jets. I have given the direct link to the part where they cover this topic.
ruclips.net/video/5_JCPFvm8nc/видео.html
The ramp-appeal of an ACJ/BBJ is very high compared to a "usual" business-jet. They just look great, IMHO, and have that comforting/homely feel unlike the traditional-business-jets which invoke fear/dread (for long flights) due to their narrow cabins which induce claustrophobia. In the second-link from 14:37 onwards we can see Abramovich's 767 (P4-MES) and at 16:53 we see the 767 and Essar's BBJ-1 (N301SR) at St.Maarten airport standing next to a NetJets G550 making it (& other business jets) look like merely a light or midsize jets in comparison.
ruclips.net/video/IHScdHG8bRY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Y34T2SRjsIA/видео.html
Your points about getting parts & repairs easily on ACJ/BBJ is true. Check out this ex-G650 pilot (who flew for Qualcomm based on her LinkedIn profile) who mentions some issues in G650 which she faced, one of which was the fact that G650 needs a different towbar which the local airport did not have. Luckily for them, they happened to carry the towbar in the cargo otherwise they would have been stuck at the airport. She mentions that they always had to worry about whether the airport they visit would have the parts needed in case of any issues.
ruclips.net/video/kzaxY8dSLGE/видео.html
Once This was Owned by Vijay Mallya ( The scammer )
I will be a billionaire..... and buy g650er
Then you will be able to fly faster and above the traffic and weather.
@Brisdad53 That was not a comparison comment by Emroj Times and by the way, nobody compares a G650ER with a 7X; an 8X maybe. It's probably better that you be a silent unintelligent ignorant troll than to comment and prove it.
The Airbus 319 cannot be called "spacious" under any circumstances. It is the Airbus version of a Piper Cub with two small jet engines.
Have you even watched the video?
Quando custa esse avião?
$100 mil(approx)