@@MrMario2011 this really bothers me because I’ve been dying to get this game for ages not for the exploit but because it’s the best console version of the game. Also, I hate stickers
@MrMario2011 even more evidence that the 360 really was the peak of Microsoft's dedication to the game system market, and true competitiveness. It truly is impressive, that hypervisor.
it ain just the 360. that was just the start lol. them mfs got a personal vendetta over what we did to the og xbox. They spend a small nations, anual national defense budget on console security. unreasonably far ahead of sony’s console security YoY, PS5 is easier to hack than the 360, thats saying alot. Atleast mc isnt going full authoritarian Nintendo mode.
i don't understand why they would send this XBOX360 hypervisor exploit to Microsoft first? its not like its an active console anymore and its sad that we won't have a proper 360 softmod but it is what it is
Great to see more options for Xbox 360 storage are now available for stock retail consoles, especially since HDD's that Microsoft sold are becoming hard to find
Small correction to you listing 360 drive sizes: 20GB, 60GB, 120GB, 250GB, *320GB*, and 500GB. This means that people with a Phison controlled 480GB SSD might get that 320GB option (slightly less of a waste of money than for 250GB haha).
Was going to mention this, but good to see that someone else was paying attention too :) I think the Star Wars edition X360 was the only one that came with a 320GB hard drive.
@@MrMario2011 Yea definitely not a huge deal for most people haha. Another small detail, the "usb storage device" wasn't a later implementation to the kernal/Tony Hawk, game was just listing the storage device name. You could always name devices whatever you liked, so he just happened to use the retail console given title for a USB stick.
Idk why you're surprised about USB storage working in an old game. It's just an extension of the console's existing storage API, adding another device other than the HDD or Memory Units, it works with any game that uses the 360's storage API (so all of them lol).
@@MrMario2011 I mostly meant that the game devs didn't have to do anything, they were required to use the storage API and Microsoft just extended the API with an update to support USB devices, so it made all games USB compatible.
the most annoying stickers are when you buy from a garage sale, damaged the boxed copy of Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. True story, still got it in a display box though.
I fucking LOVE STICKERS! Here’s a little secret. Everyone sees the white apple stickers. But did you know they make a GOLD one?! It’s given to employees who pass their training in their welcome kit!!!
Tony Hawk's American wasteland is £10 or less in CEX for the PS2, Xbox OG, PC and Gamecube and £28 for the Xbox 360 version. They've probably seen an influx of people buying a copy second hand in the UK
At least with the SSDs, any extra unused space will give some expanded lifespan, since the controller has more flash available for wear leveling. Especially since these likely don’t have a DRAM cache.
True, although I don't know enough to know for certain if that would still apply with a reflashed drive? It overwrites the drive type and such, so a 480 GB SSD will appear like a smaller Hitachi drive as an example if that security sector is used.
It probably overwrites the hardware IDs and other presentation sides of the controller, leaving the flash management side alone, at least I would hope so. Only one way to know for certain!
My computer shop has sold hundreds of the Silicon Power A55 SSDs, and only a few have had warranty claims. The couple inland drive I've used have not been great, but a sample of two does not a trend make.
I've only used Silicon Power microSD cards, they work quite well and are pretty fast from my experience. My experience with several Inland SSDs have thankfully all been fantastic.
I'm just praying that this opens some Avenues for further investigation and discovery on Winchester models. Doing console mods, I've got a stack of Winchester's that are mostly for parts.
It's probably related to Tony Hawk exploit that was revealed earlier this year. It would be safe to assume, other Tony Hawk games can be used for this. I actually wanted to get American Wasteland as achievement list seems pretty easy, but I guess it won't be that simple to find. Even if the author says it won't lead to softmod, the game isn't that common to begin with.
As a former Achievement hunter, I can agree that the Achievement list is pretty easy. It's one of the earlier released console titles and the Xbox 360 build is great, so its always been a bit more sought after.
Kinda wild this would mean you'd need a console that was just not used beyond the first few months if released when stock was scarce and scalped heavy.
I always found it odd how Playstation consoles are always the easiest to mod because of softmodding even though Sony showed they tried to stop it (Removing the Web Browser in the PS5, updating their older consoles just to halt jailbreaks, etc) Nintendo is a close second because some you can mod easily but some you need to hardmod But Xbox is like the only console to never get a easy softmod, the og can be softmodded but thats a pain with you still needing to buy parts just to make it worth it
@@MrMario2011dude, I’ve just checked my Silicon Power A55 512GB drive and it’s a Silicon Motion Controller. I know they are mass made and will use anything they have at the time but thought I’d let you know either way
That's solder mask with a copper plane where that "scratch" is on the pcb, not silkscreen. The silkscreen would either be white text or boxes like around those solder pads, imprinted on the pcb at the factory and not from a scratch. You wouldn't see that white line if it was a scratch, you would see the bare copper with its brown-ish color from the plane underneath. What you're seeing is a light reflection from the underfill glue and you can see the light coming from that direction as well from the other solder pads reflecting from that same direction. The white line turns clear when you go down and still no bare copper is revealed from any sort of scratch. Underfill glue is common for preventing chips from dislodging from their solder pads in shipping and it usually leaks out from the sides from under the chip, hence "under"fill.
@MrMario2011 these are two seperate things. Tonu Hawk had built in saving on usb for skate park sharing purpose. I know because i bought it on day one and I used this function on blades firmware. But this was only for skate parks (different file than savegame) and you cannot save game on usb (you need to have memory card or hdd)
@@MrMario2011It could be possible to create a homebrew installer by replacing the boot animation with a Homebrew launcher due to the boot animation being a xex executable but there could be issues such as the hypervisor
I'm sure there's more exploitable titles out there, but this one had the best foundation to work from thanks to his previous Tony Hawk game exploit knowledge.
I'm actually excited about being able to use SSDs in Retail 360s. I've been on a Quest to get all my Consoles to run off SSDs and the 360 is the only outlier.
Hey Mario, what were you playing Wipeout on? Was it the PC port or emulated? The PC version is being ported to Sega Dreamcast, so that made me wonder if it was a proper source port or emulation.
I remember when this mod first was announced. Tony Hawk games have contributed so much to the modding community.😂 I'm going to have to look into this, because save game "command manipulation" can be a lovely tool for memory.
Maybe he doesn't know how to make this exploit as a RGH style softmod, I think other people have to get this one. One of the people that comes to mind is the guys who discovered RGH 3.0@@MrMario2011
Id respect microsoft that little bit more if they dont release the dash they have ready to release and thats because we know for sure theyve left the 360. Im still salty abt the marketplace and tbh would like to see new version/ rereleases of blades and nxe where they are able to run all games, Im sure it cant be that hard for them to do and if they have the care to force out the new update and dont tend to the dashboard and fix it, ima still love the 360 but lose respect for microsoft
tbh i never thought i would see the day that the xbox360 would finally be "softmodded" I'm packing 1 of my many xbox360's away for the next 6 months with a copy of american wasteland 🙂 i really hope this becomes the norm very very soon 😍😍
I have some stickers from an artist that does some comics. I hesitate to use them though. As i feel like i would waste it :/. ( And they cost quite a bit for a sticker but are high quality)
Like he said, it probably won't be the softmod the community wants, if any at all. If its tethered to THAW, I already lived through bad boot times with RGH2, I don't think many people will tolerate it in 2024 even if it is software only 😛
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American wasteland is already a little pricey on 360, but I bet it'll get even more expensive in the near future
glad I picked it up for a tenner complete a couple years back. I don't plan to try this exploit I have an rgh but at least I got it dirt cheap
Agreed. The price has already been a bit high on the Xbox 360 for years now, but I have no doubt the value will increase due to this.
@@MrMario2011 this really bothers me because I’ve been dying to get this game for ages not for the exploit but because it’s the best console version of the game.
Also, I hate stickers
Can get the 360 here in the nederlands for less then 70€, not super cheap, but also not that expensive
@@benlamerikx3875 it’s about US$30 here
Cool the 360 with the "softmod" still has the security Sticker on it
Thank you for sticking that channel for so long!
Thanks for hanging out!
Man I have to give it MS, they really locked the 360 down, it's nearly 20 years later and still no way to soft mod it.
Yep! That Hypervisor is no slouch.
@MrMario2011 even more evidence that the 360 really was the peak of Microsoft's dedication to the game system market, and true competitiveness. It truly is impressive, that hypervisor.
it ain just the 360. that was just the start lol. them mfs got a personal vendetta over what we did to the og xbox.
They spend a small nations, anual national defense budget on console security. unreasonably far ahead of sony’s console security YoY, PS5 is easier to hack than the 360, thats saying alot.
Atleast mc isnt going full authoritarian Nintendo mode.
i don't understand why they would send this XBOX360 hypervisor exploit to Microsoft first? its not like its an active console anymore
and its sad that we won't have a proper 360 softmod but it is what it is
also can't find a legitimate copy of Tony Hawk American Wasteland here either , all i find is cheap fake DVDs
Responsible disclosure since the console is still technically online and supported.
@@MrMario2011 i mean fair i guess it can be considered "supported" if there's still online servers for specific games
SO they don't get sued!
its really just so microsoft cant go after them for using an exploit they were not made aware of
Excuse me but a software exploit that even works for the Winchester is huge
I agree.
Great to see more options for Xbox 360 storage are now available for stock retail consoles, especially since HDD's that Microsoft sold are becoming hard to find
Couldn't agree more!
Small correction to you listing 360 drive sizes: 20GB, 60GB, 120GB, 250GB, *320GB*, and 500GB. This means that people with a Phison controlled 480GB SSD might get that 320GB option (slightly less of a waste of money than for 250GB haha).
Yes! I missed that size, was just waiting to see how long it would be until it got picked up 😛
Was going to mention this, but good to see that someone else was paying attention too :) I think the Star Wars edition X360 was the only one that came with a 320GB hard drive.
@@MrMario2011 Yea definitely not a huge deal for most people haha. Another small detail, the "usb storage device" wasn't a later implementation to the kernal/Tony Hawk, game was just listing the storage device name. You could always name devices whatever you liked, so he just happened to use the retail console given title for a USB stick.
Idk why you're surprised about USB storage working in an old game. It's just an extension of the console's existing storage API, adding another device other than the HDD or Memory Units, it works with any game that uses the 360's storage API (so all of them lol).
I won't apologize for being surprised by good API usage!
@@MrMario2011 I mostly meant that the game devs didn't have to do anything, they were required to use the storage API and Microsoft just extended the API with an update to support USB devices, so it made all games USB compatible.
the most annoying stickers are when you buy from a garage sale, damaged the boxed copy of Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. True story, still got it in a display box though.
A great find! Hey, not as bad as old Blockbuster stickers, or even worse? When they'd melt their branding into the cart!
Your videos are always great! Thank you ! Stickers are a very cool thing !!!
They truly are.
I fucking LOVE STICKERS! Here’s a little secret. Everyone sees the white apple stickers. But did you know they make a GOLD one?! It’s given to employees who pass their training in their welcome kit!!!
I did NOT know that!
Tony Hawk's American wasteland is £10 or less in CEX for the PS2, Xbox OG, PC and Gamecube and £28 for the Xbox 360 version. They've probably seen an influx of people buying a copy second hand in the UK
It went up in price even before any of this was announced. Its the oldest Tony Hawk game on Xbox 360 and that build is pretty great.
CeX seems to be the best option price-wise. Had a look on Ebay & a lot of sellers are selling copies from anything £35 upwards for 360 version 💀
That can only mean more 360 modders if it becomes more stable. Hopefully it does mainly from the game preservation side.
At least with the SSDs, any extra unused space will give some expanded lifespan, since the controller has more flash available for wear leveling. Especially since these likely don’t have a DRAM cache.
True, although I don't know enough to know for certain if that would still apply with a reflashed drive? It overwrites the drive type and such, so a 480 GB SSD will appear like a smaller Hitachi drive as an example if that security sector is used.
It probably overwrites the hardware IDs and other presentation sides of the controller, leaving the flash management side alone, at least I would hope so. Only one way to know for certain!
My computer shop has sold hundreds of the Silicon Power A55 SSDs, and only a few have had warranty claims. The couple inland drive I've used have not been great, but a sample of two does not a trend make.
I've only used Silicon Power microSD cards, they work quite well and are pretty fast from my experience. My experience with several Inland SSDs have thankfully all been fantastic.
I'm just praying that this opens some Avenues for further investigation and discovery on Winchester models. Doing console mods, I've got a stack of Winchester's that are mostly for parts.
It's probably related to Tony Hawk exploit that was revealed earlier this year. It would be safe to assume, other Tony Hawk games can be used for this. I actually wanted to get American Wasteland as achievement list seems pretty easy, but I guess it won't be that simple to find. Even if the author says it won't lead to softmod, the game isn't that common to begin with.
As a former Achievement hunter, I can agree that the Achievement list is pretty easy. It's one of the earlier released console titles and the Xbox 360 build is great, so its always been a bit more sought after.
Kinda wild this would mean you'd need a console that was just not used beyond the first few months if released when stock was scarce and scalped heavy.
For PS5? Yep
I always found it odd how Playstation consoles are always the easiest to mod because of softmodding even though Sony showed they tried to stop it (Removing the Web Browser in the PS5, updating their older consoles just to halt jailbreaks, etc)
Nintendo is a close second because some you can mod easily but some you need to hardmod
But Xbox is like the only console to never get a easy softmod, the og can be softmodded but thats a pain with you still needing to buy parts just to make it worth it
Always a pleasure never a chore, I stuck around for the ear pleasing, soon as I seen the 360 I was like game on lol
Good console!
@@MrMario2011dude, I’ve just checked my Silicon Power A55 512GB drive and it’s a Silicon Motion Controller. I know they are mass made and will use anything they have at the time but thought I’d let you know either way
At 36:00 I don't think that's damage, that might just be underfill glue
I don't believe so? To me it looks like a surface scratch on the silkscreen.
That's solder mask with a copper plane where that "scratch" is on the pcb, not silkscreen. The silkscreen would either be white text or boxes like around those solder pads, imprinted on the pcb at the factory and not from a scratch. You wouldn't see that white line if it was a scratch, you would see the bare copper with its brown-ish color from the plane underneath. What you're seeing is a light reflection from the underfill glue and you can see the light coming from that direction as well from the other solder pads reflecting from that same direction. The white line turns clear when you go down and still no bare copper is revealed from any sort of scratch. Underfill glue is common for preventing chips from dislodging from their solder pads in shipping and it usually leaks out from the sides from under the chip, hence "under"fill.
Eaton has been really doing stuff for the 360 storage devices lately.
Eaton is a machine.
Tony Hawk had option to save/load park on USB from the begining.
No it didn't, USB storage wasn't an option until the NXE dashboard.
@MrMario2011 these are two seperate things. Tonu Hawk had built in saving on usb for skate park sharing purpose. I know because i bought it on day one and I used this function on blades firmware. But this was only for skate parks (different file than savegame) and you cannot save game on usb (you need to have memory card or hdd)
now we need someone to make a homebrew installer for the xbox 360
Get on it, @adummyloluhhh
YEAAH!!!
@@MrMario2011It could be possible to create a homebrew installer by replacing the boot animation with a Homebrew launcher due to the boot animation being a xex executable but there could be issues such as the hypervisor
I've got a bunch of stickers on my dresser from when I was a kid. I'm thinking of finally taking them off.
That's how it goes growing up, isn't it?
The game being that old is maybe partially the reason it has some exploitable privileges.
I'm sure there's more exploitable titles out there, but this one had the best foundation to work from thanks to his previous Tony Hawk game exploit knowledge.
sticker?! And thanks for you merch, that seems to deliver "my" new mug even to Europe without extra fees 🙂Great stuff
Oh snap, what?! I saw you followed me a few places, feel free to send pics with your favorite hot beverage in it once it arrives 🙂
I'm actually excited about being able to use SSDs in Retail 360s. I've been on a Quest to get all my Consoles to run off SSDs and the 360 is the only outlier.
They've been working on hardmodded consoles for years, the little benefits are nice!
Hey Mario, what were you playing Wipeout on? Was it the PC port or emulated? The PC version is being ported to Sega Dreamcast, so that made me wonder if it was a proper source port or emulation.
PC! Thanks to WipeOut Phantom Edition: github.com/wipeout-phantom-edition/
Thank you MrMario for all your hacking news, you help so many people in the community including me in a way everyone who is interested can understand.
Glad this helps!
I remember when this mod first was announced.
Tony Hawk games have contributed so much to the modding community.😂
I'm going to have to look into this, because save game "command manipulation" can be a lovely tool for memory.
Looking forward to seeing what happens!
great episode I also don't like having to remove stickers
Hope to see more of xbox 360 softmod work, I bet that the creator say that because he don't wan't to alert Microsoft 🤞
Not sure how that works when he's said he's disclosing it 😛
Maybe he doesn't know how to make this exploit as a RGH style softmod, I think other people have to get this one. One of the people that comes to mind is the guys who discovered RGH 3.0@@MrMario2011
You gotta make a video of all best mods on xbox360 and name it : pimp my 360.
Also works with other modded consoles tho.
😂
I would definitely watch a video of that
So does it need to be a 360 copy of THAW or does an original Xbox version work too?
Xbox 360 build.
Final nail in the stickler
Thanks for the heart, but I swear I was trying to correct it but Gboard said NOPE
warranty stickers infuriate me
Good thing they're not enforced now!
i hate the uk store cex they add stickers you cant remove most the time, thank you for another great upload man
BAD CEX! And thank you!
My xbox 360 has aall stickers on it,.
Love that we could instsll a ssd in a stock 360
i always end up with a bunch of stickers after every convention
That's how it goes!
xbox360bros.... we eating so good right now
The appetite grows.
Seems like I've picked the perfect time to start learning to RGH 360s, all thanks to mr mario of course
@@joeynebulous816not really since it seems like we’re not far from a soft mod… could make rgh and Jtag obsolete.
I used to like Stickers as a kid, but they are annoying now and hard to clean 😅
Mood.
I have a JTAG 360 and I did not know I could use an SSD.
Learning is cool!
love how this channel exploded hahahah
It definitely didn't? I just never stopped uploading.
Id respect microsoft that little bit more if they dont release the dash they have ready to release and thats because we know for sure theyve left the 360. Im still salty abt the marketplace and tbh would like to see new version/ rereleases of blades and nxe where they are able to run all games, Im sure it cant be that hard for them to do and if they have the care to force out the new update and dont tend to the dashboard and fix it, ima still love the 360 but lose respect for microsoft
We'll see how it goes.
Banger 🔥
Thanks!!
CLICKED BECAUSE BAD APPLE!!!
Good afternoon to seeing modded consoles
Stick-er?! I barely know er!...
AHAHAHA
I actually have quite a few stickers on my 360 and og.
tbh i never thought i would see the day that the xbox360 would finally be "softmodded" I'm packing 1 of my many xbox360's away for the next 6 months with a copy of american wasteland 🙂 i really hope this becomes the norm very very soon 😍😍
Let's see what happens!
We don't get any news about One and Series jailbreak anymore
They didn't have a jailbreak.
@@MrMario2011 oh. it's something about a expolit, right? Any news about it?
I put stickers on my electric scooter I rebuilt lol but other than that, I'm not a big fan of them.
That's a good use of them!
I'm a big stapler fan red is my favorite
They took that man's Swingline stapler.
I collector stickers from game preorders 😂.
I have some stickers from an artist that does some comics. I hesitate to use them though. As i feel like i would waste it :/. ( And they cost quite a bit for a sticker but are high quality)
I absolutely get that which is why I don't collector stickers LOL
Zombie kid may like turtles but i love stickers
Love stickers
Pretty sure anyone thats game collecting hates stickers with a passion 😅
Some game specific stickers I love, but putting random stickers on something like a game case? Can't do it!
Just don't sticker paper or cardboard, please ;( Cases and shells are easier to replace.
10.6 PPC beta on xbox 360 incoming confirmed....
maybe i can get a tony hawk american wasteland sticker?
Now that would be cool.
Since May of this year new Apple products don’t come with stickers anymore because of Apple’s environmental goals etc.
It wasn't enough they took away the chargers, but now the STICKERS?!
I clicked because of Bad Apple. 😂
Best use of Bad Apple I've seen in a while.
@@MrMario2011
Any use of Bad Apple is a good use
Sticker!!!!
Sticker! I collect them, but havent found the right thing to sticker bomb yet.
I used to always love stickers all over a laptop.
I just peeled a big price sticker off of a Who Framed Roger Rabbit NES game I found at my local dirt mall
I like penguins
AW already on eBay for extortionate prices
Sadly already been like that, it was at $40-50 or so for a while even before any of this was announced.
sticker
Im kinda looking foward for a xbox 360 softmod since im too scard to do any hardmodding lol hopefully it turns out alright
Like he said, it probably won't be the softmod the community wants, if any at all. If its tethered to THAW, I already lived through bad boot times with RGH2, I don't think many people will tolerate it in 2024 even if it is software only 😛
@@MrMario2011 understandable :)