The teaching from Turner (and his son) to not focus on aiming but focus on the movement of the release is truly something to listen to if you want to increase your shot quality. I've done it, and my shooting has really improved. If you study what he teaches, you will find that he recommends a very light bow setup so that your body can more easily move it to center at the last millisecond before the shot breaks. Sounds pretty interesting and counter to what has been taught over the years. If my release process is consistent, I shoot way better even with quite a bit of pin float.
I just used my onnex clicker for the first time with my v3 31 tonight!!! This is a game changer. My shots instantly improved. I was shooting 10’s and x’s from 20 30 and 40 yards with no problems. Thanks to MFJJ for shipping it and my halo nocks fast so I could practice before the rut!!!
Preload on the button has always been my downfall for a button release. This makes perfect sense having a click to preset your pressure on the button. Wonder why nobody else thought of this a long time ago!!! Glad to see Stan has come out with this amazing revelation to an already awesome release!!! 👍👍👍
This is genius. I love shooting a thumb button but suffered from not knowing how much pressure to place on the trigger shot to shot and for me to overcome this, is to make the release as light as possible. Just going to have to purchase one more release this season...:)
Super stoked on this release to come to the public, I wish I waited a month before I bought the UV thumb, don’t get me wrong I love that release. I was between Stan onnX and UV button. Should have waited
Anyone who has built true trigger discipline can feel the wall before the brake on a trigger, but so many guys can't because basic marksmanship aren't there for them, so this product is so needed in the archery community
That is absolutely wicked awesome!! I love my stan thumb. But do struggle with the same subject of preload. Not tremendously but it's there. And this is a HUGE game changer!! Definitely gonna be getting one.
Great Idea ! Joel your a rifle sniper ? So you made this release almost like a TWO STAGE RIFLE TRIGGER ! Instead of being tactile only like a rifle trigger , Thumb release is now TACTILE and AUDIBLE both!!
Two things i wish for this release are an adjustsble "second stage" after the click and a spot to loop a wrist strap. I could live without the first but damn the second would be nice.
So with this release, you are continuing to squeeze the trigger after the click? Is that what he meant by a single digit manipulation? I use a hinge quite a bit, and I roll the release to get it to break cleanly, just wondering if thats what he is suggesting we do with this release but with the thumb? Squeeze to the click, slowly squeeze further to get it to fire
Now, that is a handheld I might possibly try. I personally struggle pulling through the shot. Because of the movement in my anchor point. Even though it's just a very small movement, it still messes with my shot. Awesome review.
Ok, this looks great. I had been on the fence about a Stan due to the lack of wrist strap, but this pushed me over the edge. Ordered one a few minutes ago and signing up for Joel’s course tonight!!
I Agree with JJ that there needs to be a wrist strap🤷♂️ used a wrist strap release for years and after a couple seasons of running a thumb button it’s annoying having to pull it out of wherever you store it on yourself before you can get ready to draw back on anything which can easily result in missing your shooting window
I bought a Lanyard that you use to secure a camera or whatever to your wrist, a 5 pack was like $5. It works great. You attach it with a loop ( there is a hole in the release) and then slide the piece on the lanyard to tighten it to wrist. 👍
Having just picked up the Onnex Hinge at PA TAC couple weeks ago, i definetly will be picking this up. I rattlesnake the trigger hard on my Onnex thumb, and this might help.
Too much going on for a hunting release but im sure its good at the range. Spot hog wise guy is the best all around imo if you only had money for one release
I might have to go to college to understand how to use this thumb button. Ha ha. No for real I have the Stan Onnex hinge and I love it. I plan on getting the thumb button for hunting so this is perfect timing.
Can we get an crossbreed with a hinge motion to the click, then thumb pressure to fire? That would be the best of everything, I use the click as a "here we go" but also I know that everything is lined up form wise when it clicks as a point to pull from.
So coming from a Scott Sigma guy, which do you prefer? The Stan Onnex C or the Scott Sigma or Apex? I realize that is subjective, but from a quality build/shot perspective, any difference to matter?
So can we get a up close of how it activates? I am hoping the trigger is linear and not the standard pivot trigger. I am just not a fan of the rock, and feel like I have to take a 1/4” out of my draw length so I am not pulling off my face.
Really want to try this, my question is though, so your not pulling with back tension like my normal thumb button, your just using your thumb to activate it?
Honest question here but how is this not punching the trigger? Ive seen a lot if his videos over the years teaching shooting and this seems almost like punching to me? Whats the difference in pulling slow with one finger on an index release? Im genuinely curious as im trying to take my shooting to the next level. I use an index release and am looking to go to a thumb or this click thumb release.
So are you still pulling through the shot with this? or are you slowly squeezing your thumb down. hear the click and then slowly squeezing your thumb down again for the break? Do you not “pull through” with this release like previously in other thumb buttons?
Yo, what is the difference between the heavy and light weight stan clicker ? Other then the weight is one better then the other for different applications or just preference? Thanks
I like the idea of a thumb, but they keep yanking my beard out. LOL. Also, at over $540 CAD (plus duties) this won't be the one I start with. But I love the concept of having the clicker in there.
This is the wrong release. I made the right release in the Turner style, it has such a long trigger stroke that you can forget why you're pressing it. I can press the trigger halfway and then another third with two stops and then cancel the shot and go drink beer.
I don't believe this release will help anyone with target panic and/or trigger punching. Might make it worse in reality. If you are a disciplined thumb button user, this could be great for sure. If you are a thumb button trigger puncher and/or have target panic, this is not going to help that.
The man said in the video the most efficient method to firing a thumb button release was by slowly squeezing the trigger with the thumb, “single digit manipulation”. He also says take your time, focus, and ignore all distractions! This could be the part that helps eliminate target panic.
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Joel looks so much like a Cop, he gives me target panic.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cause he used to b
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s hilarious
He killed someone before….
Joel!! Such a money piece of innovation ✊🤘
This is the most intriguing release ever, cant wait to try it! I nerd out over archery releases
The teaching from Turner (and his son) to not focus on aiming but focus on the movement of the release is truly something to listen to if you want to increase your shot quality. I've done it, and my shooting has really improved. If you study what he teaches, you will find that he recommends a very light bow setup so that your body can more easily move it to center at the last millisecond before the shot breaks. Sounds pretty interesting and counter to what has been taught over the years. If my release process is consistent, I shoot way better even with quite a bit of pin float.
I just used my onnex clicker for the first time with my v3 31 tonight!!! This is a game changer. My shots instantly improved. I was shooting 10’s and x’s from 20 30 and 40 yards with no problems. Thanks to MFJJ for shipping it and my halo nocks fast so I could practice before the rut!!!
I bought one to try and I recommend it. The way Joel recommended shooting this release will tighten your groups.
Preload on the button has always been my downfall for a button release. This makes perfect sense having a click to preset your pressure on the button. Wonder why nobody else thought of this a long time ago!!! Glad to see Stan has come out with this amazing revelation to an already awesome release!!! 👍👍👍
Are you squeezing into the click and then pulling through or pulling the entire time?
It’s using the thumb to activate. As in you squeeze the thumb to get the click and squeeze it again to fire. Same motion.
This is genius. I love shooting a thumb button but suffered from not knowing how much pressure to place on the trigger shot to shot and for me to overcome this, is to make the release as light as possible. Just going to have to purchase one more release this season...:)
Super stoked on this release to come to the public, I wish I waited a month before I bought the UV thumb, don’t get me wrong I love that release. I was between Stan onnX and UV button. Should have waited
Anyone who has built true trigger discipline can feel the wall before the brake on a trigger, but so many guys can't because basic marksmanship aren't there for them, so this product is so needed in the archery community
Just ordered, can't wait. Thanks for the excellent coverage.
That is absolutely wicked awesome!! I love my stan thumb. But do struggle with the same subject of preload. Not tremendously but it's there. And this is a HUGE game changer!! Definitely gonna be getting one.
I ordered mine and some for the shop as well. I LIKE IT!!! Thanks for the video MFJJ!!
Gamechanger!!! 🦘🪃🙏
Great Idea ! Joel your a rifle sniper ? So you made this release almost like a TWO STAGE RIFLE TRIGGER ! Instead of being tactile only like a rifle trigger , Thumb release is now TACTILE and AUDIBLE both!!
Great video and info! Thanks Joel and Josh!
I remember Joel talking about this release at Elk Shape Camp. Heading to your website now!
Two things i wish for this release are an adjustsble "second stage" after the click and a spot to loop a wrist strap. I could live without the first but damn the second would be nice.
Great informational video Josh
Looks like a great idea for a release!
This is a great release. I got to try it at a Shot IQ class a couple weeks ago. I’m definitely getting one.
Oh I need this thing. The click locks me in on my hinge so I’m excited to try it.
That looks sweet!! Game changer
Just ordered a heavy metal from podium archer thanks to Joel’s recommendation.
Like to see MFJJ’s take on take on the Super Sabre vanes, seen in the view videos of him shooting I’ve seen him using them.
Well... just ordered it from your site. Let’s roll.
Finally, a two-stage trigger for the archery hunter... maybe an index finger version soon.
So with this release, you are continuing to squeeze the trigger after the click? Is that what he meant by a single digit manipulation? I use a hinge quite a bit, and I roll the release to get it to break cleanly, just wondering if thats what he is suggesting we do with this release but with the thumb? Squeeze to the click, slowly squeeze further to get it to fire
It’s like the accu trigger system from guns put into archery releases
Now, that is a handheld I might possibly try. I personally struggle pulling through the shot. Because of the movement in my anchor point. Even though it's just a very small movement, it still messes with my shot. Awesome review.
Looks like my next release. Hope it's in my budget.
Ok, this looks great. I had been on the fence about a Stan due to the lack of wrist strap, but this pushed me over the edge. Ordered one a few minutes ago and signing up for Joel’s course tonight!!
I like no travel and increase pressure. When done right it a complete surprise.
Just need to focus..
People will be double punching that in no time 😂😂😂
Click booom punch it 😂😂😂
@@gorankorovljevic810 🤣🤣🤣
Then they missed the whole point of the video.
When I first head about this release, I KNEW Joel would be out there excited about the click.
Great video.
Love it, can then use my present Stan for a backup
I like this idea!
I have to ask the stupid question: close elk encounters and the click going off, is it loud enough to spook or at a minimum get their attention?
I Agree with JJ that there needs to be a wrist strap🤷♂️ used a wrist strap release for years and after a couple seasons of running a thumb button it’s annoying having to pull it out of wherever you store it on yourself before you can get ready to draw back on anything which can easily result in missing your shooting window
I bought a Lanyard that you use to secure a camera or whatever to your wrist, a 5 pack was like $5. It works great. You attach it with a loop ( there is a hole in the release) and then slide the piece on the lanyard to tighten it to wrist. 👍
Looks the the release he handed Joel was a Stan wrist strap. And it appears to have been on an onex as well.
So single digit manipulation is code for punch the trigger
If you can't accurately punch the trigger...are you really a bow hunter 🤣
Nope. It’s code for manipulating the trigger with one digit
Ya I could of swore from what videos I’ve watch with him it’s always pull through …
So you’re not supposed to pull with this release? Are you supposed to just squeeze the thumb trigger?
Yes, according to the video, squeeze slowly, and focus on just that, ignore all distractions!
In a recent CAM podcast, Bodie mentioned he went to a thumb - this one?
Yep
Dang it! Now i gotta drop some money. i was hoping something like this was gonna come out.
Having just picked up the Onnex Hinge at PA TAC couple weeks ago, i definetly will be picking this up. I rattlesnake the trigger hard on my Onnex thumb, and this might help.
Too much going on for a hunting release but im sure its good at the range. Spot hog wise guy is the best all around imo if you only had money for one release
The wise guy does not have travel or tension adjustment.
These are gonna go like hotcakes
I might have to go to college to understand how to use this thumb button. Ha ha. No for real I have the Stan Onnex hinge and I love it. I plan on getting the thumb button for hunting so this is perfect timing.
Pull with your thumb until you hear the click, keep pulling with your thumb the exact same way you were previously until the deer dies. 2 step process
Can we get an crossbreed with a hinge motion to the click, then thumb pressure to fire? That would be the best of everything, I use the click as a "here we go" but also I know that everything is lined up form wise when it clicks as a point to pull from.
So coming from a Scott Sigma guy, which do you prefer? The Stan Onnex C or the Scott Sigma or Apex? I realize that is subjective, but from a quality build/shot perspective, any difference to matter?
So can we get a up close of how it activates? I am hoping the trigger is linear and not the standard pivot trigger. I am just not a fan of the rock, and feel like I have to take a 1/4” out of my draw length so I am not pulling off my face.
Hey Josh, what vane/arrow/insert/point combo did you end up going with for TAC?
Please explain single digit manipulation
Using your thumb to activate the trigger. Ie squeezing your thumb. Your not pulling to stretch the hand and put tension on the trigger
I am just starting out, and was just about to order the Stan onnex next week, should I consider the onnex C? Would that be better for me starting out?
Joel is awesome but your still my hero Josh.
Just sayn
Really want to try this, my question is though, so your not pulling with back tension like my normal thumb button, your just using your thumb to activate it?
Honest question here but how is this not punching the trigger? Ive seen a lot if his videos over the years teaching shooting and this seems almost like punching to me? Whats the difference in pulling slow with one finger on an index release? Im genuinely curious as im trying to take my shooting to the next level. I use an index release and am looking to go to a thumb or this click thumb release.
Let's put this on an index release
If they put some kind of wrist strap on this as well , I would buy !!!
You can’t test with your fingers ,because once pulled back with your bow it changes because all the pressure on the moon.
So are you still pulling through the shot with this? or are you slowly squeezing your thumb down. hear the click and then slowly squeezing your thumb down again for the break? Do you not “pull through” with this release like previously in other thumb buttons?
Correct, NO pulling…slowly squeezing.
Ok…for real…when is Stan going to release an Onnex with a wrist strap? Blend the axis and Onnex and you’ve got a winner.
Is this release a good option for some one thinking of switching to thumb button. Does it help with target panic?
Yo, what is the difference between the heavy and light weight stan clicker ? Other then the weight is one better then the other for different applications or just preference? Thanks
Seems to me you make it like a job. Are you having fun?
I like the idea of a thumb, but they keep yanking my beard out. LOL. Also, at over $540 CAD (plus duties) this won't be the one I start with. But I love the concept of having the clicker in there.
In this video Joel mentioned an index release that has a click what release would that be?
Archery Supplies (Steven Hann) just released a video on it.
After a few shots wouldn’t your subconscious just forget about aiming because you intestate the click?
I bought a release like 20 days ago and I'm pissed xD. Kinda, but it's life.
I like what Joel does, but I feel like he would also be a guy trying to sell me an ozonics ozone machine..
Never seen mfjj learn from someone else always used to him teaching other people
If you can’t learn from someone else, you got problems
This is the wrong release. I made the right release in the Turner style, it has such a long trigger stroke that you can forget why you're pressing it. I can press the trigger halfway and then another third with two stops and then cancel the shot and go drink beer.
sold
So what $300 dollar gift do I need to get for the wife, so when this arrives it's a wash......
Is that guy married to two people? Two rings, one to rule them all…
nothing wrong with my stan just x.
I don't believe this release will help anyone with target panic and/or trigger punching. Might make it worse in reality. If you are a disciplined thumb button user, this could be great for sure. If you are a thumb button trigger puncher and/or have target panic, this is not going to help that.
The man said in the video the most efficient method to firing a thumb button release was by slowly squeezing the trigger with the thumb, “single digit manipulation”.
He also says take your time, focus, and ignore all distractions! This could be the part that helps eliminate target panic.
And… take my money. Lol
Joel is awesome but your still my hero Josh.
Just sayn