How To Use the New Stan Onnex Clicker With Joel Turner | CAN HE FIX PJ'S SHOT?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- NEW Stan Clicker: bit.ly/3N2XZAI
ShotIQ founder and coach Joel Turner walks PJ Reilly through the proper use of the new STAN Onnex Clicker thumb button release that Turner helped design.
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PJ, the latest Josh and Tim podcast requested you go jam with them on their fireside chat. I would love to see that episode if you make it happen.
FACT
@@TimConnor13let's see it 👏🤞
I'm watching this, and my LAS notification email arrives telling me that my Stan Clicker has been delivered. Thank you PJ and Joel. And yes, I have taken the course. I can't wait to get after it with this release! #nomatterwhat
Deer walks by and I punch the trigger like I’m shooting a .300 Win Mag
Your not supposed to punch the trigger on a 300 win mag either
@@DBZSTAY 🤦🏼♂️
Congratulations for making a release that is different and I believe will help many people. I’ll stick with my polished evolution but I know it’s not for everyone. This will help many people get set up and calm on the target.
Learnt something profound watching this…gotta get me one of these releases
Release type doesn't matter....buying new releases is a bandaid...
@@eclipsearchery9387somewhat true. …. Ok , mostly true. In some cases …. You just need a new release. 😊
Love the opening bit!
Thanks, Joel and PJ. Another great lesson.
Joel is the man 🫶🏹
good video. the release looks nice and the video/instruction was clear and to the point. Thanks for the video and go Bodie! What a young man.
Just to confirm… sounds like Joel is saying not to use this as a “tension” activated break, and actually more of a controlled push of the thumb button? I guess my question is what’s the difference between punching the trigger and this method?
Yes that is what he is saying. At 7:00 he explains why it’s not a trigger punch
It's more like precision rifle shooting, gradually increase pressure on the trigger till it goes off, without adding extra tension on the string.
The most accurate way to shoot any release is to just press or rotate the release. However, people pull and pull and pull because they don’t have the ability to shoot accurately with single digit manipulation. So whether it’s a hinge or thumb they have to pull to make it fire because if they don’t then they will punch.
I’m using the perfex now and I enjoy it so I don’t think I need to spend $300 now but make one with a way to fasten a string or strap to keep it on my hand
I love my Onnex C. Just shoot one before y'all hate man. Joel is a smart guy, a whole bunch of hate on him for what!? Growin the sport and making better, more accurate archers and shooters in general? Make it make sense!
Hate? I can see why someone would see the whole system aspect as a kind of crux, that some use to overcome their anxiety - kinda like a stoic philosophy that has issues when it comes to the feeling aspect behind making any decision (to shoot a bow for instance, time and time again). Maybe look at some videos why some criticize stoicism in general..
Don't forget, the bow shoots the arrow and the arrow always hits its target - the responsibility of using one's power to load the bow and then release it, is where the human comes in (minus building and maintaining the tools and what not)...
About time someone built a two stage trigger release way to go Stan
I see this as more a stresser and cause of target panic. Squeeze until you get a click, and then talk yourself through the fact the release hasn't gone off, Oh, I can't let down, still hasn't gone off, so just punch it and send it, no need to aim and focus on P.O.I. Just get a good hinge or resistance release and set it up right. Pull through a shot, no punching, no trigger manipulation.
That was my thoughts. I bought one and it’s complete opposite. It’s less anxious than a hinge with a clicker. Idk why I’ve always shot hinges mostly and thumb button from time to time but it’s surprisingly different than I thought it would be on shot process.
In 15 years of shooting a bow, I just learned the most monumental lesson of all. I shoot a index and must get myself one of these Stan Onnex Clickers. What are the failure points in this release?
I bought a regular thumb button and think im going to get the Resistance for target. I think that back tension will be more beneficial for me but ig we'll see!
They need to make a resistance release with a click!
I’m failing to see how this addresses target panic more than a pull-through shot with a back tension release and/or thumb button(?). I’ve tried it, with little success.
Little success with the clicker? I think BT would be better as well
I’ve just bought the standard thumb no click I’ve had many releases with clicks and for me they do nothing but anticipate a shot I wait for that click then proceed to take the shot as it an anxious thing for me really ruins most my shots, not only that it will spook animals if it’s loud enough keep the target stuff for home.
It’s meant to be a surprise shot not a surprise if your brains waiting for a click its commanded I’ve had target panic worse then many I panic at the release it’s nothing to do with pin float it’s the release part I’ve shot the lot but a light trigger and a steady thumb movement gives me that shot I didn’t know happened do what works for you people will end up with target panic trying to fix things that don’t need fixing..
Here I go....i just ordered this release
fabulous!
learned again .. and a lot!
I have a Scott Pursuit and love it, but I’m ready to upgrade to a softer release. The Scott is prefect for learning how to use a thumb button but is a little stiff. I want either this or the UV thumb. Are either of them wrist strap compatible? I’m just more comfortable with it.
PS: this gave me major 90’s infomercial vibes. I loved every second. Joel is a cool guy.
Just get the hinge I hunt with my hinge and have no troubles at all
I said it before ... this click-thumb-release is one of the biggest improvements on the system. Would not be surprised one bit if other manufactors will copy this. Can't wait untill this release comes available over here at my local shop.
Actually Stan copied the Scott verge which is an index set up the same way though it was more marketed as a hinge it is the same thing
What about training with a timer ( making a sound at a set time ) after the click. Training the brain and muscles to perform in. Repetitive time trained manor?
I believe that would be 'open loop', which I think he's trying to avoid with this whole Shot IQ program.
@@robgodfrey699 yea, you’re probably right as that timer would break the continuity of finishing a controlled execution
Single Digit Manipulation? Oh, you mean press the trigger. Why not just say that?
Hi ajb holsters I mean the things he says make sense but he makes the sound fancy for selling purposes.
@@raphael6488 I know. Most of his schtick is basic marksmanship adapted to archery and surrounded with pseudo-psychological nonsense to justify the price tag.
There is good info in there, but it's not worth $250, IMO.
I've heard a thumb or finger release will cause the other hand's thumb or finger to make the same gesture as the firing hand, thus result in torque. Is this an overblown point?
Awesome stuff!!!
I want a click index now. Make it happen Joel!!
Is this the sage green color? Looks darker than the pic online
...but would you hunt with the click release?
Pj is looking at him like your a good salesman.
🤔It takes a good salesman to know a good salesman. 😎
These Guys are legendary
Never has 'blah blah blah' meant so much😊❤
Boom!
I feel like you wouldn’t want to have a click while hunting but I know people use hinge. Serious question, is the click not loud enough to matter while hunting ?
From my experience with this click and others, I think it would be okay while hunting. But it's something worth considering for every hunter. We all know deer and other animals can be finicky especially at close range.
@@LancasterArcherySupply thanks for the response! I’ve always wondered 🤔 love your company and the channel. Being a year into bow hunting your videos have helped me a ton!
In person, the click is actually much quieter than PJ's first video made it sound. My camera barely picked it up in a quiet room from a few feet away.
@@ajbholsters2035 that’s what I was thinking since people do hunt with them. Thanks brother!
What happened to his insta? I can't find it
Why do they make such a big deal about this? Do people really have "panic" or are they just trying to sell stuff? I have an onnex and love it. I have it set as light as possible and it goes off perfectly every time.
Target panic is VERY real.....If you've never experienced it, consider yourself lucky. It can range from just a little flinching to full-on anxiety.
So basically a index release with a click.
Dudes a genius!! Great words Joel ✨
A little off topic anyone know what stablizer setup he uses
On this bow, it's all Axcel Carboflax bars....
Sweet
just point and shoot I'm not convinced. this release will help that much. for someone that has target panic issues ect sometimes a click can make the issue worse
Have you looked into shot IQ? If you have TP you should. Wish I had it 10 years ago
SHOT IQ - worth every penny!
Joel is the ducking man
I watch everything that got the name Joel Turner on it
I need to get a Shot IQ arm tat also
"Single digit manipulation" aka punch it
Not at all. He’s saying using your thumb to move the trigger in a way that actually makes it fire rather than pulling with your whole arm or back and adding tons of pressure to the bow that doesn’t actually help the release fire. With that being said pressure is good and it’s ultimately what makes the bow be still.
🤔 Oh, punch it lightly then.
@@phantomcruizerNo it is still a surprise shot but moving the trigger with your thumb slowly until it breaks.
Shake 'n Bake
I just aim on the center hit trigger why complicate it
That'll work for a while
@@joshpitts7256 it’s worked well for me for 26 years
Adding more syllables to the explanation makes it sound more profound.
It's all a money gimic for Mr. T. This contradicts all his other lessons he teaches. So now you gotta buy this new release take another seminar and become a pro 😂😂😂😂
@@Chris-h7g7h yup I’m not buying lol
Isn't single digit manipulation trigger punching? I'm confused.
No, because as I understand it, single digit manipulation is a continuation of what got you to the click. It will still yield a surprise shot because the motion is slow enough to stop. There is no stopping once you decide to punch the trigger. This at least is my understanding of his method.
Pressing the trigger deliberately or commanding the shot is not the same as punching a release. "Punching" implies rushing the shot and loosing the arrow before you are relaxed and settled on target. Commanding the shot just means you are on target and decide when the arrow is going to fire instead of letting it surprise you.
This is not the proper way to shoot a release people do not shoot this way. This needs to be shot the same as a hinge. Set your thumb on the barrel as you anchor and relax into the click, then some more relaxation while building tension will make it fire. Pulling the trigger is wrong wrong wrong
Seems contradictory to what has been said before.
New information is always contradictory
@@sethedwards1757 I agree but when you build your info on not activating a shot from a single digit to you should then it just makes you wonder .
For years release companies were competing who makes the crispest zero travel button. Now they're adding a click that needs a full millimeter to trigger. Seems we're going in circles.
Btw... You can do this without a click. Just keep your thumb behind the button while you're "aiming", bring it around when you're ready to execute, and... execute.
You kinda missed the point ;)
For many people having some feedback during that execution process is helpful, and helps eliminate the accidental punch when you decide to start moving the button.
These things will sell like hot cakes..
Especially if there's a strap and a 3rd button option added as per genius customer feedback.. 🥸🏹
Of course it will, what do you think this video was about?
@@phantomcruizer fishing out bored wankers..? ☝️ #missionaccomplished