lusurama5080 they have had issues with the rail cracking at the point in the rail where the screws hold on a rubber stopper in the middle area. From what I have heard when they drilled the holes it may compromise some integrity of the back. A few hard landings on the tail may weeken the system
Hi Louie I'm Joel a big fan of the show and I'm building a ditch banger and I've done lots. top end , oil delete kit, stator, plugs caps, wires, voltage regulator, coil is ordered incase it is the coil, 04 rev 440/800 mod she started rite after rebuild and now I can't get her to fire up any thing I'm missing in electric system any advice is good advice
There are 2 plugs on the moped that people often mix up - take a look at those -they are the same size and easy to mix up - I think one is off the thermostat
What’s a light option for a CHEAP budget build? Old fan sled should be getting scrapped but it’s too sentimental so need to do something and needs all the weight reduction it can get. Can’t spend 10x the price of the sled on a skid lol..
So you went with Fox shocks in the skid. Are you going to change the front suspension shocks too? What are you going to do with the "old" Stage 4 Elkas?
Carbon fiber is stronger but not as tough or durable (hardness) as aluminum. These are actually the 3 measures of a material taken into consideration. A dozer blade liner doesn't need to be strong or that tough it needs to be hard to resist the constant friction of rocks grinding down on it. A building will need strong beams, it has no friction or toughness (ductility) assuming it's not really tall and accounting for sway. A roll cage needs strength and toughness, it needs to resist deforming to maintain shape but it also needs ductility so that if it does reach yield strength it won't just fracture in half and still maintain its shape partially just bent. From everything I know carbon fiber is less tough and hard, so any kind of scratch dent or material deformation the part is done and friction like a track rubbing in spots where it shouldn't will eat the carbon fiber up quickly. I'm not engineer or an expert in materials or snowmobiles, I just think when people hear stronger they think overall better, but that's only one measurement of a materials performance, there's the 3 total. That's why I think they still use steel roll cages vs aluminium to this day, steel is much tougher and most cases harder (depending on alloy) than aluminum even though aluminum is stronger by weight. If anyone has info or their thoughts I'd like to hear them.
@@thedriven1415 rigidity would fall under strength, I fully accept carbon fiber is stronger. A lot of times people will point to race cars and airplanes to prove carbon fiber's reputation. Planes and race cars don't crash and if they do they're written off, and they have very strict maintenance requirements making sure everything is running smoothly. Personally I'd never give up the durability of aluminium or steel depending on parts for my bikes sleds and other toys. They will get bumped, they will get bruised, a plane not so much.
Het! How well Will they hold up when, lets say, you end up landing on a rock hidden under the snow after hitting a jump? Is it possible to drill in them whithout screwing them up if i wanna put ice scrachers there?
If you would bend your normal rails a little, these would survive unscathed. If it would total your original skid, these things would survive most of the time (the odd wheel and whatnot might fail in certain cases). If it would total your entire sled, you could in more than half the cases put the skid on the next sled after replacing some bolts and wheels. Even if your tunnel twists massively you can take the skid off (after a lot of elbow grease since it'll be jammed in there good), and the rails will flop back to their original shape so in most cases you can use the skid on another sled (again, the odd bit and piece might need replacement, wheels, bearings and bolts are the weakspots). Aluminium rails won't do that, if you bend your tunnel the original rails are junk 90% of the time (original skid only survives if the tunnel is very slightly twisted).
Guran Carbon fiber will rebound back to its original shape much easier then aluminum so I would say yes to the first question depending on how hard you hit the rock ect.. now for the ice scratcher question yes you can, however you will destroy a regular metal bit trying to drill thru it and possibly the material , so you will need a bit designed to drill thru carbon fiber (they aren’t cheap), also make sure your edge distance (distance to the closet edge) is 2.5 to 3 times the size of the fastener. This will prevent sheering and reduce the chance of cracks.
I should have known, I have one as well. I've been watching you since your monster Elan build. I love elans, have a bunch of them and have always wanted to build something like that.
I was running my rk tek built 600 rev powering through 2ft of powder at wot and she lost power still runs I was able to get home but it’s idle is high now.enough to pull the sled. Any thoughts?
The thing about this skid is that you keep the original stored properly, and just set your sled back to original when you sell it, then you throw the carbon skid on the next sled. Taking care to document mileage when you took off the original and when you put it back on, since the original skid should retain its value you should be able to fetch a couple hundred bucks more for your sled when you sell it as a result (especially if you take it off brand new and take care of your sled in the mean-time). Plus if you have lets say the older polaris chassis RMK, you could put this skid on, throw aftermarket A-arms and shocks on the front that raise the height a little, throw on some aftermarket running boards you place slightly higher up than stock, and then you'd pretty much have a sled that outperforms the newer chassis (bearing in mind that I assume you serviced your clutches, engine mounts, bearings, pistons, reeds, exhaust valves, etc to keep your sled running as it did from factory, as opposed to running like crap because of poor maintenance).
Like I said this skid probably isnt for you...but it is a skid that people will buy. Heck some people will think you are crazy for even buying a snowmobile right?
@@PowerModzOfficial I also saw a 2018 sled with 60 miles on it, that they were going to sell for 5300 USD below what they paid for it brand new. Now THAT is far crazier than a good skid that could be used on sled after sled (I'd just make sure I got enough spare parts for it to keep it for decades).
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Still not sure what you mean, Im pretty sure the trails would be that easiest on the Carbon fibre compared to what we do in the backcountry and on the power lines.@@MrSprintcat
Well all I know is we're going around corners at 80 miles an hour. I'm just thinking that aluminum would be stiffer therefore holding the sled in the corner better. I know the carbon fiber is really strong but I think it would just Flex a lot while cornering under hard acceleration and what not. Thanks for getting back to me
There are people who will buy it - if it's not for you that's ok but I dont expect them to make this suspension with a year of R and D and just give it away. @@Gazooo29
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Impressive Demonstration...
so what he's staying is the alpha cat's mono rail should be made outta this so they won't bend
does the single beam bend? never heard of it. if they do I need to consider that when I choose the brand I'm going for as my next sled.
@@lusurama5080 they crack
I agree. Attic cat should try carbon fiber
If they go to carbon fiber the cost of the sled will increase. They crack because some people put the rail into stress its not designed for.
lusurama5080 they have had issues with the rail cracking at the point in the rail where the screws hold on a rubber stopper in the middle area. From what I have heard when they drilled the holes it may compromise some integrity of the back. A few hard landings on the tail may weeken the system
Awesome videos. Thank you! Didn't know carbon rails are so tuff. Now I want some haha.
5400 for a skid is too much
Impressive stuff Louis and Simon!
Came for the rev, stayed for the content
You should get alote more views for your quality content!
Share my content please!
why don't you have so i can go in to the web and buy just becuse i from sweden
Just PM me and I'll hook you up. I have my web guy looking into the issue.
De riktigt dåligt att de ej går
Alright
Check it out now - it should be working for you. Please let me know. @@carveryt4288
Its fixed - try now please.@@adrian8854
louie's workout regi: try to bend slide rails
Their also making car wheels out of carbon fibre, I forget the exact weight savings but it sure is significant. Cheers !
I want one for my F3 700 because its a tank! And it needs to go on a diet..
do they make some for a 121 inch
I cant find them on your website sadly :( btw you make amazing videos ! 👌
Yeah I just checked for a set to I cracked my rails and looking for something a little bit better but can't find a 144 set
@@bradyborg2336 same, still cant find any
They should make a titanium skid
I don’t usually have problems with aluminum rails bending. They always crack on me and they are too dirty to weld back up.
Absolutely love this. If I could, I'd buy multiple. But no money 😂
They should make one for the alpha that strong
12:31 jeeeeeeez. Careful dude🙃
I know right!
Can’t wait to see a 15 pound carbon fibre alpha skid
Probably cant because of the patent.
Is it available for 121 inch skids
Im not sure they have a 121 rail but ill look into it.
Where can I get those for a 2010 Polaris Dragon 800 ??
Be great for my old sled but i can buy 5 complete running sleds for the same price as the skid
Hi Louie I'm Joel a big fan of the show and I'm building a ditch banger and I've done lots. top end , oil delete kit, stator, plugs caps, wires, voltage regulator, coil is ordered incase it is the coil, 04 rev 440/800 mod she started rite after rebuild and now I can't get her to fire up any thing I'm missing in electric system any advice is good advice
There are 2 plugs on the moped that people often mix up - take a look at those -they are the same size and easy to mix up - I think one is off the thermostat
I need one for a 2008 ski doo summit 800r
What’s a light option for a CHEAP budget build? Old fan sled should be getting scrapped but it’s too sentimental so need to do something and needs all the weight reduction it can get. Can’t spend 10x the price of the sled on a skid lol..
Cool stuff. But my God the price to have fun now days is getting out of hand...
So you went with Fox shocks in the skid. Are you going to change the front suspension shocks too? What are you going to do with the "old" Stage 4 Elkas?
Yes I will be going to fox but I need the elka for my other sled.
Do they make a 121 drag race skid ?
I need that in my life
Carbon fiber is stronger but not as tough or durable (hardness) as aluminum. These are actually the 3 measures of a material taken into consideration. A dozer blade liner doesn't need to be strong or that tough it needs to be hard to resist the constant friction of rocks grinding down on it. A building will need strong beams, it has no friction or toughness (ductility) assuming it's not really tall and accounting for sway. A roll cage needs strength and toughness, it needs to resist deforming to maintain shape but it also needs ductility so that if it does reach yield strength it won't just fracture in half and still maintain its shape partially just bent. From everything I know carbon fiber is less tough and hard, so any kind of scratch dent or material deformation the part is done and friction like a track rubbing in spots where it shouldn't will eat the carbon fiber up quickly. I'm not engineer or an expert in materials or snowmobiles, I just think when people hear stronger they think overall better, but that's only one measurement of a materials performance, there's the 3 total. That's why I think they still use steel roll cages vs aluminium to this day, steel is much tougher and most cases harder (depending on alloy) than aluminum even though aluminum is stronger by weight. If anyone has info or their thoughts I'd like to hear them.
@@thedriven1415 rigidity would fall under strength, I fully accept carbon fiber is stronger. A lot of times people will point to race cars and airplanes to prove carbon fiber's reputation. Planes and race cars don't crash and if they do they're written off, and they have very strict maintenance requirements making sure everything is running smoothly. Personally I'd never give up the durability of aluminium or steel depending on parts for my bikes sleds and other toys. They will get bumped, they will get bruised, a plane not so much.
Moist mountain race bike are CF now, from the way ive abused CF ill use it on anything I can get my hands on. @@bassackwards6184
Love that that was awesome I have never really trusted carbon fiber but I do now
doesnt your rmk have electric start?
Would it affect the skidoo’s t motion ?
Damn that’s impressive
Great video,
is the carbon brittle in the cold?
no not at all
would this one work on a 2002 polaris xc 600
yes
I got a good question for ya on the basis of weight, who has the lightest 800? Arctic cat, skidoo, or polaris?
Rmk 800 is the lightest, it's lighter than the 850
When ya gonna finish the Arctic-Cat ?
I'd love to get one of these.... Would this same one work on my 2014 PRO 155?
you bet
Very impressive! Only prob is the price for most.
If you break this, you’re probably dead anyway.
Yeah if you SOMEHOW manage to break that your gonna have more problems than your sled
Het!
How well Will they hold up when, lets say, you end up landing on a rock hidden under the snow after hitting a jump?
Is it possible to drill in them whithout screwing them up if i wanna put ice scrachers there?
If you would bend your normal rails a little, these would survive unscathed. If it would total your original skid, these things would survive most of the time (the odd wheel and whatnot might fail in certain cases). If it would total your entire sled, you could in more than half the cases put the skid on the next sled after replacing some bolts and wheels. Even if your tunnel twists massively you can take the skid off (after a lot of elbow grease since it'll be jammed in there good), and the rails will flop back to their original shape so in most cases you can use the skid on another sled (again, the odd bit and piece might need replacement, wheels, bearings and bolts are the weakspots). Aluminium rails won't do that, if you bend your tunnel the original rails are junk 90% of the time (original skid only survives if the tunnel is very slightly twisted).
Guran Carbon fiber will rebound back to its original shape much easier then aluminum so I would say yes to the first question depending on how hard you hit the rock ect.. now for the ice scratcher question yes you can, however you will destroy a regular metal bit trying to drill thru it and possibly the material , so you will need a bit designed to drill thru carbon fiber (they aren’t cheap), also make sure your edge distance (distance to the closet edge) is 2.5 to 3 times the size of the fastener. This will prevent sheering and reduce the chance of cracks.
I hit rocks - very hard with my current carbon fibre skid - no issues at all. they are drilled for scratchers. @@midwestmachines2629
I'm sold!!!!!!........hey Luey, can I borrow $5k?!
Will it fit my Yamaha 700 mm stock length trying to mod
Proof was definitely in the pudding on that carbon fiber hands down!
Is that a moto ski mirage 300 up on the pallet racking?
250 spirit
I should have known, I have one as well. I've been watching you since your monster Elan build. I love elans, have a bunch of them and have always wanted to build something like that.
Same skid as 5 years ago?
Nextech had the mono shock skid at 29lbs, this one they built is even lighter
You are so Destructive LOL
Would it work on a 600 R.E.V.?
Im pretty sure you can make it fit everything
I was running my rk tek built 600 rev powering through 2ft of powder at wot and she lost power still runs I was able to get home but it’s idle is high now.enough to pull the sled. Any thoughts?
Maybe ya blew er up or only 1 cylinder that’s why it runs
yup - check your compression first. @@sebastianklapprat9964
Louie leave the rails alone ,this is not going to end well
strong like bulll
When you almost fell😂😂
Do you have any recommendations on a cheap quad I can buy second hand?
CF is great but 5k for a skid? get real.Thats more than $1000 per 10 pounds i would save.
Probably a great skid but 99% of sledders can't afford it.
The thing about this skid is that you keep the original stored properly, and just set your sled back to original when you sell it, then you throw the carbon skid on the next sled. Taking care to document mileage when you took off the original and when you put it back on, since the original skid should retain its value you should be able to fetch a couple hundred bucks more for your sled when you sell it as a result (especially if you take it off brand new and take care of your sled in the mean-time). Plus if you have lets say the older polaris chassis RMK, you could put this skid on, throw aftermarket A-arms and shocks on the front that raise the height a little, throw on some aftermarket running boards you place slightly higher up than stock, and then you'd pretty much have a sled that outperforms the newer chassis (bearing in mind that I assume you serviced your clutches, engine mounts, bearings, pistons, reeds, exhaust valves, etc to keep your sled running as it did from factory, as opposed to running like crap because of poor maintenance).
Like I said this skid probably isnt for you...but it is a skid that people will buy. Heck some people will think you are crazy for even buying a snowmobile right?
@@PowerModzOfficial I also saw a 2018 sled with 60 miles on it, that they were going to sell for 5300 USD below what they paid for it brand new. Now THAT is far crazier than a good skid that could be used on sled after sled (I'd just make sure I got enough spare parts for it to keep it for decades).
It's probably still the cheapest dollars per pound lost you can buy, all carbon panels cost more per pound lost, same for TI steering posts and a-arms
5Kcdn - not usd
Where on the web site do you sell them?
Just added but best to call me or message me through my website to confirm what you need.
I have a 2019 arctic cat hardcore 163. Would like ri know what a skid like that would cost?
PowerModz I’d be needing money to pay for them 🤣
Try tanerite!
5000$ they should be lite...
are you a aircraft mechanic like I am
No but Im a pilot.
Nice I also fly. Currently own a Cessna 172A good all around airplane
What do you have
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What country are you in? Ill fix that.
@@PowerModzOfficial sweden
Hmm is it not working now? try refreshing? @@tompali2025
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@@tompali2025 ok working on it!
wow!
Woah...
Lol it’s 5400 for the skid
with shocks - price out a factory skid...
W O W
Pound for pound carbon fiber is 5 times stronger than steel.
That's for mild steel
Hello 👋🏽
I'm not too sure that would be good for a trail sled
whys that
FLEX.😜
@@PowerModzOfficial FLEX 😜
Still not sure what you mean, Im pretty sure the trails would be that easiest on the Carbon fibre compared to what we do in the backcountry and on the power lines.@@MrSprintcat
Well all I know is we're going around corners at 80 miles an hour. I'm just thinking that aluminum would be stiffer therefore holding the sled in the corner better. I know the carbon fiber is really strong but I think it would just Flex a lot while cornering under hard acceleration and what not. Thanks for getting back to me
AHAHAH nice
"please call for pricing" yeah just click bait, can't even give us a price.
@@ViolenTech Yeah just looked a crazy $5500.00, the only person I can think would waste that much money would be Mark Freeman or a Pro sled rider.
There are people who will buy it - if it's not for you that's ok but I dont expect them to make this suspension with a year of R and D and just give it away. @@Gazooo29
Not click bait - just waiting on pricing...it's a NEW product.
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