How to Reuse Washing Machine Motors - (The Simple Way )
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Hey guys, new episodes about this topic are now online:
Salvage a washing machine motor+transmission:
ruclips.net/video/H_JV7jTH4wU/видео.html
Inside a Washing Machine Motor:
Pinout, Teardown, Explanations and Experiments:
ruclips.net/video/CtulRqznbzI/видео.html
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I have searched internet how to hack, modify or reuse the motor control of a direct drive washing machine with the motor (brush less three fase motor and VFC) but didn't find anything. Could you make a video? Would be great to modify and add a potentiometer and some switches to control the motor free on speed and direction. Thanks!
Yes I am so interested in this also as I have a recovered modern washing machine motor and it's power / control board and have not figured out how to use it yet. I should try to aquired the service manual for the washing machine to perhaps provide better insight as to how the motor operates.@@IdelcoEM
MORE! MORE! I don't care how long I have to sit in order to learn my friend. I am 65 and my yerning for knowledge is still the same as when I was 7. That's when I took my first radio apart to see how it worked. Magnificent video my friend. I like your ideas and can't wait to see what you come up with for control with DC supply. Next video. Please.
+Raymond Earle Ditto. I too am able to watch an hour long video. Not all Utube viewers have the attention span of a fly on amphetamines we are more like whelks ........ : )
+Dr Wobble I totally agree my friend. I am 65 and continue to learn something new everyday. Thank you very much my new friend. I have subscribed. Have a great day.
+Raymond Earle I get the same feeling now and again...just tonight I got fed up with an old notebook cooler of mine, disassembled it and repaired the section of wire that needed to be adjusted a certain way to make the fan work all the time, then replaced the bottom two large rubber strips with low heat hot glue so as to grip nicely the same way as the original two pieces of rubber that fell off.
Awesome my new friend. Needs must when the devil drives.
I like the German accent, it seems appropriate to technical matters.
+liar liarliar Not to a Jew it doesn't.
+Taunter Atwill 70 years ago, the current German generation is totally different in fact i would even go as far as too accepting...
+BlackIce504 Not to a Jew they are.
Taunter Atwill Wow an Internet Hero... The funny thing is you would never say it to my face.
Also you should be cautious who you speak to on the net like that you might just find your self hacked.....
I have not lived under German Occupation but again if you read anything i said that happened 70+ Years ago most of that Generation is dead or retired there children run things now that was the other point your weak mind missed.....
Anyway i am done with you as clearly your hatred towards all Germans of all generations blinds you to anything you can't even have a logical discussion or argument with anyone with out your uncontrolled feelings and emotions controlling you.....Pathetic
Taunter Atwill
Fucking moron i did not remove anything i said that was the guy you wrote to before you moron, everything i wrote is still there clearly your delusional hippy.
You can't read English very well you might need your eyes checked.
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now twist that, clearly you do not read news as well.
where have i denied anything i wrote i did not i stated you twisted it and got it mixed up and i even showed you where you twisted it up but your so emotional about your nazi fetish that your blind.
You say I am lying about been down under lol you claim you an Elite with computers by now you should know where i am from........
You call me a bitch but your the one who is filled with emotions and most likely could not fight in real, and from the looks of your photo you look like you would be the bitch.
Your a youtube troll, just so you know that is the lowest any person could ever get.
there is a electrical engineer in my family .he has never shared with me, other then he fixed cell phones for my cousin, as a hobby. your vid just showed me i know nothing.i do know it flows like water . yet i can fix cars, motorcycles,and any thing of properties and geometry.i can test millivolts yaaa. thanks for vid
This guy is simply amazing. I sense a lot of consideration and sacrifice occurred to make videos such as this one. Many many thanks for this. Excellent demonstration and lesson.
BTW: I do NOT recommend to touch a moving transmission like this with your hands (with or without gloves). I was working on a handbrake, but couldn't finish it in time. I just wanted to put the video out, so I did this the quick and dangerous way. Please don't follow my example in this respect.
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor As far as I know, a short stick doesn't give you friction burn and slips out of your hand if its tugged away from you.
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Thank for the video, but sure, near rotating things, I would avoid gloves and long sleeves.
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor - Next time, simply use a block of wood as a "brake shoe", instead of your finger.
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor this is really interesting. I'm trying to find parts for building a beltsander (making knives) and was lacking a motor. But if you get this to work I will definitely salvage my old washer :P
+sirspikey i c electric motors all over for a little a 10 buck that dont need a controller
Just to clear this up:
I'm aware that the term "frequency of revolution" or "frequency of rotation" is an uncommon term and that it must be strange for some people (especially some American viewers) to measure this physical quantity in Hertz (Hz) instead of RPMs.
In Germany the words "Drehzahl" and "Umdrehungsfrequenz" are some of the terms used for this quantity. The letter one means literally "frequency of revolution".
The Hertz (Hz) (1Hz= 1s^-1) is the SI-unit for frequencies and is the correct unit to be used in countries that have the "SI" ( also known as the "Metric System").
Any reoccurring event can be measured in Hz, not just oscillations. That includes revolutions per unit time!
"RPMs" is a unit that is primarily used in the English-speaking world. It is not an SI-unit and that is why I try not to use it too often. The Metric system might still be uncommon in the general population in the US, but it is the excepted standard among scientist in basically ALL countries around the world. The RPM is based on the "minute" which is totally unpractical to use in many calculations, because all SI-units are derived from the SI-base units, including the second (s) as the SI-base unit of time. Using minutes only brings unwanted conversion factors into the calculations!
1RPM = 1/60Hz => 1Hz = 60RPM
When talking about dependencies between "physical quantities" I try to use the names of the quantities instead of using "units of measurement". In this way you can make a statement without restricting it to one system of measurements:
1.Example: "When you step up the volts, the RPMs rise" ( bad practice)
2. Example: "When the voltage is increased, the frequency of rotation also increases" (good practice)
When you still have doubts about describing the "revolutions per time period" as a frequency, just check the definition of "RPMs" found in Wikipedia:
"Revolutions per minute (abbreviated rpm, RPM, rev/min, r/min) is a measure of the frequency of rotation"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_per_minute
I don't say that this is the only way to handle things, but the DMM that I use to measure the how fast the motor shaft is spinning puts out a reading in Hz, so why not just stick to that, instead of multiplying it by 60 all the time.
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor theconversation.com/why-the-german-language-has-so-many-great-words-55554 I was going through old tools my father had acquired over the course of his life (he is 60 now, so he doesn't really do much with them), and I found a lot of German HSS 2-flute hand-drill bits which was in my childhood tool kit he gave me ~20 years ago at 8 or 9. Dull but no oxidation or corrosion. I took them home, sharpened them quickly on my grinder, tried them out, and said in my best AvE impression, "Gehhrmann schkookum choocher."
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Bravo, RPM is something of an anachronism really, most of the other time when dealing with scientific quantities we would use seconds as the time base. RPM has persisted probably largely because of the rev meter on car dashboards.
Power supply here is provided at 50 to 60Hz. See...Americans understand stuff too.
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Wayne S. errrr nah.....end of 😂
I understand about half of what you are doing ,but still find it both fascinating and educational, thanks
Thanks for doing these videos. I studied electronics at college ( a long time ago) and managed with that ok, but I never really managed to wrap my head around how motors, synchros and generators were used in the real world, 3-phase especially! These days. I'm more interested in making some tools for woodworking (such as sanders), so this stuff is really useful to me.
I love how clearly you describe and explain things
Magnificent video! The thyristor circuit seems quite bang-for-buck because it seems it can power the motor quite stably! I cant wait for the modified circuit!
The induction motor's RPM is a function of frequency and the number of poles by design; not just frequency. 2 poles at 60 hz = 3600 rpm, 4 poles at 60 hz = 1800 rpm, etc. NEMA MG1 for reference has everything you'd ever want to know about motor design. Good video by the way!
Thank you again. I for one would like to see more on "Universal Motor" speed control, both a fully rectified "pulsed DC" control and a "smart" controller.
Cheers.
No. 30+ minutes is fine. You found that out over time.
I watched this when it came out. I just watched it again (2/20/23) since it came (back) up in my feed. Your English has gotten to where you speak it better than at least 40 percent of Americans, if not more.
Fascinating stuff TPAI. I have learned a lot about electronics thanks to you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
I would certainly watch an hour long video. But its much easier for you to edit and produce content if its broken up a little.
Love the last circuit, simple and elegant. Thanks
Great video. Back-EMF controllers have eluded my own personal study. I look forward to the next video.
Long videos are great! Really looking forward to the next one!
Thanks for this video, it is very timely. I have some big old 110v DC 1/4HP motor's and some other 220/240v AC including a huge 3HP monster; your video has given me valuable info that I can use to get these running. Cheers.
I have watched and enjoyed your work for some time now.
A choice between FB and RUclips got you as my second offering from youtube. Happily watched.and this shows as a recent upload from you.
It helps that you are relevant, articulate, and just plain good.
I'm so impressed with how intelligent you are and enjoy your videos.
Thanks for the information presented here about universal motors, and the great youtube channel.
I can see a nice 2×72" belt grinder being built with that rigid cast iron frame, it almost looks designed for one
Tanks for uploading.
this video is just what i was lookking for
I cant wait to see te way to build the propper motor reagulator.
Jeremy Felding said I should check out your videos on motors…he was right, Thank You.
In school, I learned a lot of reading, writing and arithmetic. However, viewing this video and, considering the state of the world today, I feel my education is sorely lacking. These are the kind of skills that are really going to pay off in the not too distant future.
Really nice educational video, I like the way you present the theory of operation. Thank you.
Hi, this is inspiring, I'm curious to see what comes next.
Long videos are not a problem, coming from you.
Keep on trucking ! (from France)
Das ist genau die Videoserie worauf ich seit gut einem halben Jahr warte ^^
This is exactly tthe series of video I have been wating for since half a year.
Thanks
Love your videos. I learn a lot from them. Thank you!
My Kenmore front loading washer suffered a mechanical breakdown a couple years ago. The spider which is the pot metal part your test bed is spinning, and attaches to the wash drum was broken in 3 pieces. The cost of a new spider was not worth it. It's only sold as a unit with the stainless wash drum. I couldn't see putting $600 into a decade old washer. So I took it to scrap recycle. Now, I'm pissed that I didn't extract the motor before I dumped the rest of it. I did look at it but I didn't know how to run it outside the washer. Great video! I want to learn all I can about this stuff. Thanks for doing the videos.
Good job! Professional video presentation...nicely explained and ably demonstrated. Thank you.
looks like that setup would work really well for a band saw. Or, like you said, a sander. thank you for the video
Thanks, Great video as usual, looking forward to the next ones
Yes. I want / need to learn this. Want to use for wind,solar power. Thanks for the info.
Excellent video! Just what I needed. I recently salvaged a washing machine motor, along with the circuit board inside it. I plan on making a multitool with it (bench grinder/buffer, belt sander, maybe other things). I'll keep these bookmarked for reference later. Thank you!
thank you so much for this video I am really looking forward to see the second part - full wave circuit.
That rugged cast iron frame are just perfect for belt sander
Enjoyed seeing someone still doing some electronic tinkering. Nice little discussion without getting too technical. I miss being in the lab on my circuits. I will be checking out your other videos. Also I enjoyed your German accent too - its my heritage as well - though no cool accent, only west coast. RHugo here
I've seen some dodgy stuff before in videos that has made me giggle like a little boy, but this has to be the funniest, i could just imagine that wheel coming flying off around the workshop, crazy!! Great video keep them coming.
Auf dieses Video wartete ich schon ne Weile.. Grüsse aus Paraguay (Südamerika)
+Ferdinand Schröder Entschuldige meine Neugier, aber bist du nach Paraguay ausgewandert, oder machst du gerade eine Reise?
The Post Apocalyptic Inventor
Neugier ist immer gut.. So habe ich auch dein channel gefunden als ich bei AvE videos schaute.. Meine Grosseltern sind nach den 2. Weltkrieg nach Südamerika gekommen. Ich bin schon hier in Paraguay geboren..
Ich bin ganz aus der Übung Deutsch zu schreiben aber Englisch ist n bisschen komplizierter..
Sehr interesante Videos.. Mal sehen ob ich meinen alten Waschmaschienen Motor in schwung bekomme :P
Sooooo cool ! I wait the next video, I really want re-use these motors to make my machines ! Thanks !
Your intro works. I didn't know your RUclips name but listening to the intro and watching it I thought "There should be someone who invents stuff solely for the use in the apocalypse." Then your title appeared.
Very nice. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to seeing the next video.
Your intro is just sooooo charming
Thanks for this video and the full info that you provide ...
Just one thing ..
Using your hand to make a load to motor through the belt is not best way ,it may harm your fingers and make high injury
Good luck
Hi, it works, but what is the performance of 4.7k resistor in your back EMF circuit? Unfortunately mine burns very quickly. On the other hand, which resistor or capacitor is the best to change if I want to further decrease the minimal speed i.e. I want to have control on lower speed ranges? (It is not a problem for me if max speed gets slower in the mean time)
Hi
Awesome video! Im trying to figure out whether I can run a universal motor from a forklift off batteries and an Arduino using a motor driver?
quality videos,all
of them! hi and thank ya from canada :)
Enjoyed the vid. Thank you for making this an the others.
Jeremy Fielding reminded me about your channel. On 17Dec2019.
Thanks for the good videos.
Thanks for the informative video. I use salvage a washing machine motor. Could you help me see which is the correct wiring? Because it only has 3 wires.
thanx for d GREAT videos. I still have some questions though: does a motor have most power/best performance at V it is designed for? Like 230V in case of EU-washing-machines. If so, when V is decreased, a smaller pulley (or better, bigger on d driven part) should be used in order not to overload it?
Was this video shared on some platform or forum? Views have been going way up over the last few hours? Who sent you guys here?
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor An easy Sunday morning got me here. I have been meaning to watch it since it was posted. Great video as usual, keep up the good work
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Showed up on my recommended viewing list, I'm not subscribed but do watch a lot of electronic stuff.
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor Showed up on my recommended viewing list as well, after watching some eevblog videos. Informative video, will definitely stick around for more. :)
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor recommended viewing list
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor RUclips recommended it!
sehr gut gemacht,vielen dank!!!
This proves that knowledge and wisdom are sometimes mutually exclusive. It is unwise to subject one's hand to such danger!
Thank you for the video! Is there's any way to get the schematic of the last device - the constant speed controller please?
I would like to experiment with my salvaged motor a little.
Thank you!
I was thinking of using the pulley to make a saw mill 2 of them would hold the blade and the motor would attach to the shaft on the back side do you think it would be strong enough
Thanks for this info...very interesting, and I look forward to more of your video's
Regards....stevep
NSA will be coming for you. Very creative. Thanks.
Thank you, this is very helpful
Wow. Good video. You're one smart dude. Thanks for the video. Subscribed and liked your video. Good explanations. 👍
So according to your advice I now have climbed the utility pole and made a temporary platform to complete my copy of your circuit. I'm ready to do the connection to the mains - but which end do i connect and where?
What a Great site...Thank you brother...
Excellent information.
Hi. Thanks for video great! can I use it with 24 volt or more for bike it scooter?
The circuit diagram shows a 100 micro henry 5 amp inductor where might I find one of these or is it fairly easy to construct? Also what function does it perform in the circuit?
Duuude even if you put out an _hour_ long video on this, I'd watch the hell out of it :D I think many, if not most people here would agree.
Would this work as an idea to get feedback of speed? Power the field windings directly with the AC, but pulse the stator windings with PWM. During the "off" cycle of the PWM, use back EMF from the stator windings to measure frequency of rotation. Perhaps that could be combined with the circuit you have there?
+Azayles From what I understand, the field and stator windings have to be powered with the same kind of current (AC or DC). If they were powered differently, the attraction/repulsion between them would be unpredictable (dependent on frequency of current and revolution).
yrs ago i just used the original set up...and attached a round saw blade..therefore using an old table I had a superb rip saw...
cool! finally i found a cool way to use my old WMM. can u put a link with a partslist for the constRev design controll box? the organigram is fine but i actually have no clue where to get this stuff? thank u!
Very well explained my friend.
I never realized using washing machine motors were such a pita. I figured you could use the OEM motor controller by finding a potentiometer or frequency control somewhere in the circuit.
Man, I don't know how I missed your channel for this long. +1 sub!
But my goodness sir, every bloody time you put "load" on the belt I had a vision of it catching your glove and redistributing your hand bits all over the shop! I know you addressed it and the comments are alive - I just wanted to agree with the "safety" crowd.
All in all though, EXCELLENT video and series. You're now featured prominently on my "watch later" list.
I was thinking about adding full bridge rectifier before the thyristor controller, then the negative side would be the positive side and you should (in theory) have more power.
How compatible are these motors for use in renewable energy projects? For example, a miniature wind turbine or water wheel.
You have the best videos.
Started watching and it was an easy instant subscribe. There is a "je ne sais quoi" about your voice, accent and vocabulary that would make me interested in almost anything. I "liked" this video on my stumbleupon account, so you should see a small spike again. Thank you and I am looking forward to exploring your channel!
Hey, your videos are great, I was wondering if you could do a similar circuit do run one from a portable supply such as 24v? Cheers
Cant wait for next video!
thanks! Suscribed, project from salvaged common appliances is what I'm looking for (greeting from France)
As always, great video!
Hoping that you'll use the tachogenerator at some point. There's even a Motorola IC for that, the TDA1085C, but maybe you were thinking about discrete logic, which is great!
+Mattia Iezzi I have a TDA1085 and I will use it at some point, but the problem is that the TDA 1085 has been an obsolete device for many years. It is not manufactured anymore and people probably will have a hard time to buy one. At least here in Germany there are only a few private individuals who sell the rest of what they have. They usually want to have 10€ or more per chip. So it really is not my first priority to use a TDA 1085. But I'm working on a design around the TCA 785 that will probably be able to use the tacho generator's output as a feedback signal.
well put vary nice good explanning on video .puls alighnment with herts in mind ime intrested on this thankyou for the class
I have a question for you.
Can you tell me how to remove the drive end bearing? How to manage with the drive end part diameter that is bigger than the bearing diameter? Is there a way to unscrew the drive end or do I have to use an extractor of bearing ?
Thank you ! you may want to include the purpose for it !,nice to use already existing motors etc!, what do I gain is the out put more than the input! ? thanks T
Will I be able to do this with a Fisher and Paykel SmartDrive (BLDC) motor?
Running in closed loop with a controller can maintain the prime mover despite a changing load providing the load is within the power range while taking into consideration duty cycle or any reductions of output.
I have virtually the same motor only it's from a whirlpool washing machine. I have the "three phase converter" hooked up but I need to know what to hook the three smaller wires coming out of the "converter" to. I want to get it on a dial like you have it so I can use it on a honey extractor, as I'm new to beekeeping and am trying to do things on a tight budget. I appreciate your help. I also have eliminated the other components in the machine by means of the diagram provided from whirlpool. Thanks again!
Hi first thing is you do a great job with your video's I like them very much.
I have built the controller from the circuit on the video it works fine but can you tell me why it pulses at low speed as I want to use this in my washing machine and it starts and stops like pulsating it wont run smooth.is there some way to solve this problem.If I changed the 22mf cap for a 10mf would that solve it? Thank you..
Great & informative! Where can i find a circut like this to control my motor?
I want to build a battery powered sawmill. I'm planning to use a band saw style saw. Can you advise me? Thanks
Do you have a video on using a motor of some kind attached to a saw blade for making ones own Sawmill perhaps?
thank you for your time
Great video!
Clear and simple thank u
Hi, does the same apply to a Fisher and Paykel SmartDrive motor?
Could these motors be used as a generator if doubled up or more and run by small petrol
motor to give nice voltage for a computer etc?
the Cubans have cornered the market on reusing washer motors,there is even a book made available documenting what can be made using discarded household appliances. Apparently, Castro gave his blessings on publishing a booklet to be released to the general populace incouraging his fellow countrymen to show their spirit of inventivement and later had a book published showing what others had come up with. Apparently there were two published versions made,one after the other became so successful.Go figure. I do not recall the name of such books, but I am sure with a little internet surfing you will find said publications.
+scott firman Yeah they also made a documentary about those guys.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
+The Post Apocalyptic Inventor During the Cold War the US (and as a result, the US allies) imposed an embargo on Cuba preventing the import of new cars (there was no domestic car manufacturing market within Cuba). As such the Cuban populace have had to make due with cars of a vintage nearly 50 years old. (Which, in some ways is good, because I'd imagine their trash output must be way lower than any other 'developed' nation, I digress though.) Now that the US-Cuba foreign relations have (somewhat) resumed, there is a lot of hype amongst vintage car enthusiasts within the US, as their innovative mechanics had to go to extensive lengths to keep those cars on the road in relatively stock configurations. (Instead of using hydraulic lifts, they just dig pits; instead of using fancy TIG/MIG welding setups with Argon, they have DIY stick-welding, etc. I'd be curious to see how they domestically manufacture their own primers/paints/clear coating that adhere to aluminium)
Tolles Video! Bin begeistert....
I have a bench grinder plugged into transformer. I would like to be able to slow it down for sharpening purposes but if I slow it down the power is gone and it becomes unstable as you say it. When I stop applying pressure to it the speed takes off. Is there a simple device for slowing it down without loosing the torque needed to do the task It would be nice to use your washing machine motor that can be stabilized to turn a diamond coated disk possibly.
is there any further development on the universal motor driver?