Galaxy Book 4 Pro 360 Review
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16GB RAM in an almost $2k laptop? 32GB DDR5/5600 is about $120 at retail, there's no excuse for less than 32GB on a 'pro' level machine, especially if it's soldered in.
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@@thebradcolbow Can you compare the iPad pro, galaxy s9 and the wacom cintiq pro 27 please😢
It would be awesome if it had video in so you could use it as a drawing tablet when the specs get outdated
i have a Galaxy Book 2 Pro 360 for 2 years and is going strong. I put a matt screen plastic protector but it started to eat the nib. Searching on the internet i found out that the Spen and the Wacom One(the one with display, in black and white) has the same pen tech and they work with each other. So i have use that pen from ONE with the plastic matt screen protector. It still has some resistance but not so much because the nib is a hard plastic. But it has been good so far and the screen will never get scratches.
That's actually pretty cool, thanks for sharing that info!
Get yourself a book g2 x4 pen - it's the same tech and they can take felt nibs and a friend of mine found that he could put Wacom felt nibs in tto. Haven't tried that yet - I still have plenty original HP felt nibs left.
I'm using metal nibs now, got them a couple of months ago for my GB 3 pro, and my Surface Pro. Highly recommended if your screen protector eats your plastic nibs fast.
I think I heard the Wacom One are not too good, about the worst line of product in Wacom. But can't remember if the issues were due to the pens, or the screens provided in the ONE line. If it's on the screens, then there should be no problem in using such pen on this laptop. If I am not wrong, Samsung tablets (maybe it's same tech with these Samsung laptops, I strongly suspect that) work well with any Wacom EMR based pen, so, not necessarily a Wacom ONE (there are a ton of brands, non Wacom, with Wacom EMR tech, like the Lamy AL Star ( I have this one that I got for my Samsung Galaxy tab S7 FE, and is even more sensitive, quite, more subtle, than the default S Pen). And it's 30 bucks :)
@@fablewalls That pen is very hard to get a hold of these days. The Wacom One one is the closest that is readily available.
I got the GBP2 Pro 360 on your recommendation and I love it so much! Not only is it a great drawing tool, it handled my research too (which was a ton of data)! My only gripe was that the screen has cracks from travelling, but that can be remedied by buying a good case before taking a flight or so. All in all, I love it, and I'm curious about the newest version!
I don't know if it was your case but this model off laptop has history off crack screens from probably overheating. There are a lot of customers complaining that their screens cracked for no reason , I don't think that a protective case will solve the problem, and in those cases Samsung claimed that it was user error and charge for changing this screen.
No 32GB RAM option on the Pro360 will be a deal-breaker for many pro users (along with no dGPU). Samsung has done this to upsell to the Ultra but that has no pen support. The 360 should not be compared to Macbooks as they do not offer touch let alone pen support! So, comparisons with Dell, HP, LG, and Lenovo would be sensible. It is a premium laptop so the price as expected is very high but comparable though nearer the top-end of premium 2-in-1s rather than the cheaper end. Should be up there when choosing a 2-in-1.
I was trying to find this info on their main site, and they kept hiding it. if I"m spending this amont of money, i'd like it to last more than 2 years.
Yeah, that's 100% fair. especially for the price.
I got the Book 4 Pro 360 with 32 GB Ram and 1 TB Storage. Don't know why they don't sell this in all markets.
Do they sell that option in your area? Im holding out on buying because I can't find the 32gb anywhere @@Optora.
@Optora. Yeah. What market? I want this but in your configuration
You can rotate the screen so the blower is at the top. Which is what I do. You can also replace the SSD. It's a standard nvme.
Awesome. There is a lot of info here! Thanks
That was a looooong sponsor spot lol
Hey Brad! This was helpful. Also, what's your opinion on Minis forum V3... Right now, I have narrowed my upgrade down to galaxy book pro 4, Surface pro 10 but very tempted to see how AMD hails for this space (of digital art) ... Or perhaps it's more of an option as a gaming tablet pc than a drawing one.
I have the non-pro of last year's model and I love it the small size and lack of numeric keypad. I have mine paired with a shortcut remote and Lamy EMR pen and draw on the couch or at cafes a lot!
Have you had the chance to explore other 2-in-1 laptops, such as the ROG Flow X16 or MSI Summit E16? As a 3D artist, I'm seeking a 2-in-1 laptop with robust GPU power, and I've noticed these models boasting an RTX VGA, which seems ideal for my profession. However, I'm uncertain about the quality of the stylus pen. I hope you have the opportunity to review 2-in-1 laptops with high-performance GPUs. :)
I haven't used them. For 3d those laptops are are probably fine or better because performance is more important than the line quality of the pen.
I have the X13 2021 version and the only drawback is that in tablet mode it automatically limits the amount of power that cpu and gpu can provide and it is due to the lack of ventilation caused by the screen blocking the air intake at the bottom of the laptop. I'm pretty sure the same thing happens to the X16 version. Speaking of the pen, I have one from Renaisser, they have several pretty good models and at an affordable price, another one I've read that is good is one from Metapen M2.
looks great as a portable sketch device. I would be worried about damaging the keyboard in 360 mode on my lap though... If they made this like a surface pro with the guts behind the screen instead of the keyboard it would be allot more versatile for lap sketching.
Hey Brad, I really like the Galaxy tab and the s pen. Cuz the s pen there is just so good and unmatched. Does the s pen with the book 4 work just as well? Or bc it's windows, maybe it's not the same and has some lag? Cuz I'm thinking about potentially selling my s9 ultra to get this instead
Hey, Brad. I was wondering if you could review the Zenbook Duo UX8406 from 2024 for artists? I feel that this is the successor of the Surface Pro form factor.
I heard it has screen cracking issue. Let me know if you have any problems with that. I am looking to buy one.
Not sure if you’ve seen, but apparently there’s a 2024 version of the tab s6 lite that just got quietly announced, could be worth checking out perhaps?
We have a previous model of the S6 Lite. If you're new to digital drawing, it's the best value, hands down. The pen functions as it should (packaged in for free), and it can do all the things a tablet should do. It goes on sale like 3 or 4 times a year. We got ours for like $280, which is crazy cheap for the experience.
*BUT* if you're looking to be a professional digital artist, you'll almost definitely need something more powerful. Layer count is limited by the RAM. Also, heavy photo editing, video editing, and animation will do much better on a more powerful device.
I'm a value-oriented person, and I can't recommend running Procreate on the iPad Air enough. $20, one time, for an amazing program is the best way to avoid a subscription service just to get good at digital art.
Happy drawing 😃
First, thank you so much for your review. I have Samsung S8 Ultra, and I'm super happy with it. What I miss (as it is an android) is working in Rebelle 7. That is the reason I'm considering to buy Book4 Pro 360. Did you try Rebelle on it? I'm asking because Rebelle is resource intensive.
Hi! Does the screen wobble if you have it on your lap and you type? I mean using as laptop, not trying to draw or anything, just type. Im more interested in the touchscreen only in the full tablet mode so what you showed is not necessarily a dealbreaker for me, even tho it's a bit concerning.
do you know the differences of using Adobe Fresco on an Ipad vs Windows? I'm considering one of this or the surface pro 10, but also a new ipad is coming so I want to see what differences are on Adobe Fresco as that's the one software I use the most. It's not the only factor deciding on buying, but I may stillwant to know
I am planning to buy book4pro ultra7, 32gb. Is it good for product designing like Adobe XD, figma, photoshop, Illustrator. Will this laptop handle this well. Some reviews are telling it is lagging while using Photoshop, figma...have u felt any lag while working?
Great review as always. Got my GB4 pro 360 a couple of weeks ago and I love it. Great screen & colors. Don't like the s-pen that much, seems a bit small, but I use the one I got with the Tab s4.
I'd recommend the Wacom one Pen CP91300B2Z, Staedtler Noris Jumbo, and Lamy AL-Star styli for better grip + comfort.
Thanks. I just put an order on the Lamy and 4 extra nibs.@@davsdf1
@@wthoffmannhow much hours battery backup ? I bought same but battery dying so fast n some heat issues
@@World-zg8tn I would say 8-10 hrs with mixed usage. There are 4 settings for the battery (fn+f11) On the highest it get's pretty hot, but on the two lowest no heat whatsoever.
@@wthoffmann on clicking battery how much estimated time remaing show ? Mine show only between 2 hours - 2.30 hours . My laptop last only 2 hours with normal youtube video watching
The non pro at 1100 looking like a nice deal. Can install pro software like in any Windows or Mac, that's a huge plus. The S Pen non wobble lines and feel, and surely you can use any Wacom EMR compatible pen. Oh, and the secondary screen (using a samsung tablet as such), even if not super well sync, would rock for looking at references while doing a project.
I've been watching this unit since it came out. Bought it on sale. About the price 13 ipad pro and pen. The aspect ratio is 16 :10 a much better drawing experience. I'm really happy with it!
Does it have a real wacom control panel and the ability to customize the pen side switch? (Right click) If not, no sale. Galaxy Tab S9 ultra + superdisplay and any laptop you please ftw.
Does it have any paralax?
What kind of games can you play on it?
I would love to know how Clip Studio runs on it!
So, real Question... Value for money, and actual practicality of use, what would you choose; a Galaxy Tab S9+ or the 360 Book 4 pro?
I am really considering the Tab S9fe 12.4 at less than $500. Currently I am using the Tab S6 22 and love it, but would also love the extra screen space.
I already have a decent computer so the Tab seems more appealing than the laptop. What compromises would I need to be aware of when making this decision?
Other thoughts and suggestions are welcome.
I was considering the Samsung Book 3 360 last year, but went with a way cheaper Lenovo 7i that had a dedicated Arc GPU. The active pen actually works really well and I'm happy with it.
It would be cool if you reviewed/compared the latest Lenovo 9i and 7i yoga 2-in-1s though!
Does additional keyboard work in the tablet mode if i want to use it for shortcuts in Photoshop?
At that price Sammy could’ve done 32gb instead of 16 😂
YES!!!!
I've been waiting for an artist to review this! My school is sending me a MacBook Pro 16 in a few months. I already have one, so I think I'm going to sell it to get a Galaxy Book to replace my current MBP.
What school you go to?? Is it an art school I'm looking into one that provide tech
@@4re4rts68 Full Sail University.
@@4re4rts68 I go to Full Sail. They have a box called Project Launchbox where they send you everything you'd need for your program, including a MacBook Pro (in most cases) or an equally high-end PC laptop (for some programs like Computer Animation or Game Design).
Do you prefer fresco over all the other drawing apps?
Could you test if the Wacom One pen works with the Samsung Galaxy Book 360? It might be a more appealing alternative to the S pen pro as far as price goes.
Might be late on this but yeah, it works. You can look up digital EMR pens, and they all work on the Galaxy book as it uses Wacom's EMR tech. It's why Samsung crushes it in the 2-in-1 laptop in terms of the best pen experience
Been thinking about one of these as a replacement for my decrepit PC, and a supplement to my Tab S7+, to do the windowsy things that android can't. (Like run that copy of Rebelle I bought) Gotta say you did a good job selling it to me. Just have to decide if I want the 3K resolution, or an extra $800 in my pocket. 🤔
If you don't need the lightest most portable drawing device, I would recommend getting a decent gaming laptop (usable for 3d and other stuff too), and a 16" screen tablet like a Huion or XP Pen. Cheaper than this product and more versatile. But, it's not all in one, since you do have that extra screen. Just make sure it has USB with DisplayPort or Thunderbolt if you need an extra screen. Just a thought though (it's my mobile set up after much research). :)
@gelatinguy I've been thinking about this again lately, and I think you're right. I was thinking about one of those big 22" huions before, and I could even run it off my Galaxy Tab... just couldn't run Rebelle on it. 😅
Wow! Really nice. However, $1,900?!? 😮 Brad, have you thought about pitting the top-of-the-line Tab S9 against this laptop from an artist's perspective? I've been really leaning towards using my Samsung tablet as a laptop replacement especially when paired with the Dexnor Magic Style Keyboard case. As an artist, I'd rather have the flexibility of a tablet for art than I need a laptop that I use for "productivity" every so often.
I just answered a question anout Artist use/ painting and I will post it here again, maybe it's interesting for you.
Hey, I've used the S9 Ultra tab so far and switched to the Book 4 Pro 360, so I thought I'd share my experience. For the use of the pen, the tablet is much better. more accurate, less delay and the recognition of the hand when painting works much better and more reliably. the speakers are 30% better in my opinion with the tablet. the displays are similar, but I like that from the book 4 pro a little better in terms of color representation. Overall both great devices, but if the S-Pen is the main argument, I would clearly recommend the tablet.
I have a Book3, and it's a great laptop, but I thought I should mention a couple of things. The S-pen does not have a programmable side button. I like to use the side button as a right click and the s-pen only allows you to use it to open certain programs and whatnot, so that hampers the useability of the pen, which is otherwise great. Also, the second screen function with Galaxy Tabs can be used with any Windows computer, not just Samsung computers. I am disappointed to hear that the Arc GPU doesn't have more of an effect on performance. I'd heard good things about the Arc, and I was hoping for more. The graphics performance is the one thing that I find really lets me down compared to the Yoga 720 with an nVidia 950gtx that I had previously.
Thinking of trading in my 9+ ultra for this is that a good trade in? Thanks
What do I think? Well, my zBook g2 X4 screen is starting to suffer from 7 years of drawing, it can't be upgraded to Windows 11 and I need a new laptop for Photoshop / Illustrator and Adobe Animate this looks good but I am also tempted instead by the 19 inch Huion Pro and a small desktop Windows machine instead (which would struggle less with Blender)
Ideally, I'd prefer a new HP zBook but I'm open to looking at this laptop instead.
Does this have a heating issue at all?
How about 4 pro. Is it possible to use S23Ultra SPen on 4 pro?
Hey Brad, it has been a lot of reports of screen cracking of the Book 360 across all generations of laptops... since you reviewed all of them, have you experienced this? How are they lasting over the years? Samsung's warranty does not cover these cracks, blaming the users for poor usage (all user claim have take care of the laptop and there is some report that this happens with a few days of use and out of nowhere...)
Interesting. Curious about this.
I have not seen any screen cracks in the Pro 360's I've used. But I also just keep them around my office so they aren't going in and out of bags or anything.
Hey brad,for drawing,do you prefer the galaxy tab s9 ultra,or the galaxy book4 pro 360?
Im trying to see which is better for my birthday,i mostly use it for animation and coding
Hey, I've used the S9 Ultra tab so far and switched to the Book 4 Pro 360, so I thought I'd share my experience. For the use of the pen, the tablet is much better. more accurate, less delay and the recognition of the hand when painting works much better and more reliably. the speakers are 30% better in my opinion with the tablet. the displays are similar, but I like that from the book 4 pro a little better in terms of color representation. Overall both great devices, but if the S-Pen is the main argument, I would clearly recommend the tablet.
@@Optora. thanks dude/ma'am :)
what software is being used for drawing
Can u review the new Miniforums v3 tablet ?
It does have the ability to turn off the palm detection FYI. Great so far (day one)!
Can you make a video about HP Envy x360?
Anyone has any idea about replacing samsungs s pen? it's a little bit too thin...
Samsung really needs to use full wacom drivers go allow us complete control of the pen and button settings
Tried a regular wacom pro pen on These tablets and laptops? Bit confusing sometimes s pen needs charging on some devices in reviews I've read. Battery free pens tend to be better, not just convenience but just better ( less wobble etc). Also more options on UK and throwing in an S9 fe tablet with some models.
Thanks Brad. I left my ipad pro in favor of the Samsung Notebook Pro 6 years ago. I might buy this one or wait one more year. New Windows chips are coming this year, M chip competitors. I'm dreaming for a Windows Samsung tablet or a Mac Pad.
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Really hoping the new iPads with a pencil & new keyboard case won’t add up to more than this laptop, if that’s the case, I’m getting this instead.
welp i bought it. lol gonna use fresco after I finish my current pic on my tablet.
I wish I could say there was a solid value proposition here, but there just isn't. Android does phones better, but as soon as any of the droid companies make a device that's bigger than a Samsung Note, all of the value seemingly disappears.
For the same price someone can get an iPad Air for drawing, and a PC that can handle real work AND real gaming 🤷
Shame they didn't do a 13.3 or a 14inch. The 16 is just a little too big. Plus they should've done a version with a rtx 4070 or 4050. Love that pen.
I have a question to Brad or could anyone here whose drawing tablets expectis like him okay. So im not a drawing pro i just draw, sometimes as hobby but as for tablets and computers i like high speeds tech like apple but im considering later (thinking about it) in life buying a starter pack per say of a really drawing tablet (doesnt need to be pro) but like a xp pen or cintiq or huion all by 14 or 16 inch so the question/debate is which one is better most recommended and takes mac os? Thank youu!
Both the latest XP-pen and Huion tablets are really good on the Mac. It comes down to what size or features you need or can afford.
@@thebradcolbow thanks Brad! :)
is it "2 thunderbolt 4 ports ports" of should it be "2 thunderbolt 4 ports"
Can wait for galaxy book to have snapdragon X elite chip
unlike microsoft that has shitty carpenter style pencil stylus, its good to have an actual apple pencil like stylus
I feel u don't to say 'I review tech for creative professionals' and I want to see more creative intros like 'I'm Brad, wait... I reviewing this?'
I wouldn't like the wobbly screen and having to charge it using a usb c port to do it. It's kikd of a waste of a usb port. It whould have a plug in to charge it. as it is i would need more ports so i could connect the things i have connected to my laptop now which is a HP. The fan is pretty loud too. I would like to get a samsung though as i have other samsung devices. ... phone and tablet. A
For windows go to Control Panel/ device manager. Disable touch. Now you can draw without worrying about palm rejection.
Yeah, but that disables ALL touch. What many android apps do is disable touch only when the pen is in use to cut down on extra marks.
Looks like a nice laptop for drawing. For me no point in the Micro SD Card Slot. I use an iPhone. Maybe Samsung or other android phones use Micro SD Card Slots that would be an advantage. One thing that may be a concern for drawing is needing the keyboard while in drawing position. Would need an external keyboard. No big deal. I still would prefer the duo drawing laptops like the Asus Zenbook Duo though the needs is still for a great pen and looks like the S-Pen is good enough. Hopefully Samsung will come out with a Duo Screen Laptop that can also have all the capabilities of the Galaxy Book 4 Pro 360.
Hello
According to Samsung the non pro display is FHD not 3K, thats another difference
Best for sansumg ecosystem
I wish Samsung would offer AMD options again.
If you are a student this laptop cost just 1,199.99. So, is definetely worth it. I bought thr first Flex made by Samsung and it was a GREAT laptop BUT! HINGES ARE THRASH. After two years of use they stop working and destroy the screen. I bought a new screen and the experience was worst, it last a year or less..
How about a samsung galaxy bool4 pro 360 (tablet mode) vs tab s9 ultra review? It'd be great to see that
Now I’m irritated I bought my first Mac book air 2 years ago. But it was for programming not art so meh.
16Gb or RAM? Too bad, I'm out of here, that's only half of that I need for my art. Looks great, specs seem decent and having Intel Arc is nice, just a bit more power than the regular intel graphics. For the price there should really be 32Gb in it. I'll stick to Lenovo, they work very well and you pay less for good specs and choices. Their pens are surprisingly good. Sure not as lightweight as the s-pen, but they work well.
If it only had a decent gpu, would be perfect.
A samsung ultra without s pen support is a fake ultra
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Can’t even use Vroid Studio, Blender and After Effects on here lol
Too much money for a mediocre notebook. For 2499 euros (that's how much I paid for my SGB 4 Pro 360) there are significantly better alternatives. Therefore, think carefully about whether you want to buy such an overpriced device. Unfortunately, I missed my return deadline and unfortunately have to keep the SGB 4 Pro 360 or sell it at a loss.
For windows laptop the Galaxy Book has the best drawing experience for 360 laptops, i agree with the price being too much because the configuration options aren’t worth getting for the price they offer. And thus I chose Ipad Pro and now used affinity designer to do my work.
It's worth the price if it fits what you need. A portable machine that has a superior drawing experience as well as carrying a slew of windows programs and apps.
As a laptop, its only decent, and you can't reliably game on it. Personally, I'm waiting on an ARM version of a 360 galaxy book.
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There are THREE glaring things that keep me from considering these:
1) Lack of a 32 GB RAM option. As someone who's a 30+ year Professional Graphic Designer who uses Adobe Products, 16GB especially for a "PRO" model is not good enough. It will never be.
2) Windows 11 Home. A "PRO" version should have a "PRO" operating system. This is just total bullshit on Samsung's part.
3) This last one is cosmetic, but that awful large chin on the bottom of the screen is absolutely useless and serves no purpose except highlighting Samsung's poor design. They really need to get rid of it. It's not on their phones or tablets, so it contrasts with their design language.
EXTRA CREDIT: The price is outrageous!!!
I have a Dell XPS 7390 2-in-1, 10th Gen i7, 4K with 32GB of RAM, and the thing is still really good. The Dell Premium Active Pen - PN579X is also a Wacom Stylus and it works very good, but honestly it's not the S-Pen. I'm thinking about the new ASUS Duo with the two 3K OLED panels. It comes with 32GB of RAM, Ultra 9, a stylus and other extras for the exact same price. I'm not familiar with the ASUS Stylus with Microsoft's Pen Protocol (MPP) 2.0. so we'll see...
Hey man, I just bought a book4 pro 360 for 1899.00 us. A week into using it and the dual window and android experience is a nightmare. The s pen destroyes text editing. I have a s8+ and the s pen text editing is a breeze, but on the book4 I have ruined several docs with wild s pen text editing. The touch pad is ok and the screen is wonderful. That said, getting this as a tablet device is really painful. The tablet keyboard is huge and the way it covers over half of the document is just ridiculous. The book4 is a solid piece of hardware with an amazing screen. However the whole s pen editing is a joke. I really can't recommend this to anyone without feeling bad.
first comment....UwU
Korean. Erosion comes with 32gb of ram