As a casual player and proud owner of typical cheap glass stones I didn't even think I'd react so vividly to the orgasmic sound difference the real stones make on the board .. but MAN that click - clack difference resonated and sounded so soothing
My friend got a slate and shell set and was pushing me to get one too. I was hesitant, and had a bit of buyer's remorse. But then I touched them and all doubt vanished. They feel indescribably good
I am glad someone mentioned the glass stone being put into the shell set. I really like Konrad's word choice. Gravitas, I need to find more ways to incorporate that word in my life.
I lived in Japan for years in the 70's; a friend of mine gifted me a Go set.. true kaya made from thick stump wood with a nice patina, legs, and sword etched... The stones were clam and slate.. Then when I moved back the the US, I left the set there because it was too heavy to carry and I was too stupid to ship it home. It was probably worth a lot.. Every time I play go now I kick myself.
Human nature, what you take for granted, you leave behind... Maybe someone dear to you kept it for you. Who knows... It would be worth investigating, would it not? :-)
After twenty years of loving the game, I too, finally broke down and bought myself a beautiful set of slate & shell stones (and a floor goban with tachimori laquor lines) through eBay [I think it was an estate sale], and as lovely as they are, I don't get to use them nearly as often as I would like, either. They are definitely a show-piece in my parlour/living-room when I have guests, though; and, I have used them to lure many potential addicts into the obsessive ranks of competitive play in the decade since! There is definitely something about the kinesthetics that is particularly intoxicating!
I like buying good quality stuff both for the feeling and also for the longevity. I want something I can actually feel proud of passing down to my children.
I bought and I am very happy with the authentic yunzi stones. The ones whose black stones are slightly greenish when the light passes through. BUT, I think for any relatively new or casual player it is a bad investment because you need to know whether you'd be playing with anybody and if you yourself be playing regularly. It could end up being a cumbersome thing that'll stay in your closet.
I kind of just ended up with a few different sets. My first set was a folding board and glass stones I found at a Korean market. Then I decided it was kind of annoying to lug around so I bought a small magnetic set. Then I spent some money and got a Shin Kaya board and Jujube bowls from YMI. Then after a few years I decided I liked single convex better than double convex so I bought a new set of S.C. Yunzi to replace the D.C. Yunzi that came with the YMI set. After this much time a lot of the glass stones from my first set were broken or lost, so I bought a set of S.C. glass stones from a market, but I dislike them and they were kind of a waste. But if you are going to spend 30 dollars on glass stones, get Yunzi's instead. So much better. Shell stones have the grain on them, but Yunzi have the green halos!
I bought a Kaya board from mr. Kurunis about 5 years ago when I was just beginning (a few months after I began playing) and some Real Shell stones blossom grade and slate from an online dealer. When I realized how bad I sucked at the game , I put them down and didn't begin practicing on that real board until I reached Dan Level. Nick's got a point when he says he didn't feel quite worthy of playing on a several hundred to one thousand dollar set until he got good. I'm not some snob about it, but the investment in high quality stones and board should only be made if you intend to spend several hours per week studying. You kind of can't let something that nice just sit around and collect dust ya know? I can gladly say that I've spent several hundred hours pounding mine into the ground since I bought it -- I estimate I've put in over 200 hours practice on it since making Dan level and resuming play on it (just this year). Size 32 stones are the ideal and at least a shin kaya board with Zelkova wood bowls are recommended for a serious set purchase. These will run you about $400-600 total if you buy second hand. www.kiseidopublishing.com/go_equipment.htm shop.kurokigoishi.co.jp/en/ These are some links that may help you all to get a better set.
I died a little on the inside when he swapped the lids on the first set of boxes... And the i died a bit more when he threw the white glass stone in with the other clamshell stones...
I really love the look of Yunzi stones as opposed to shell or glass stones. The shine puts me off every time as I find it distracting and just not visually appealing.
I have a foldable magnetic board with little plastic stones and bowls that fit inside the board when you close it. It was, I think, around $60. It was my first set. Its nice, the board is the regular size. It has served me well for several years. My dream is to have a nice thick floor board. I told myself that I would only buy one when I have hit 1dan. Just to prove that I'm committed to studying Go. I also plan on buying some decent stones and bowls to go with my floor board. I have always thought that the board set up in the Yugen no ma room is the coolest way to play Go. I like to dream that one day I will be able to play there, challenging Iyama Yuta for a title :)
Gravitas. I went to Ikea, and bought one of their $10 lamp tables, and then cut the legs to be about 6 inches and put a 2" thick table goban on top of it; Poor-man's floor goban. I mostly play with my 10-year old son on this board.
I learned go at a go club with glass stones and good sized boards. The set I have is tiny. The go board is about the size of a chess board and 19x19. The stones are plastic and also tiny to make up for the small board. It works fine, but it is the worst to play on. Also the stones are in small plastic bags which adds to the bad experience. I might have to get myself a proper board and glass stones.
13:22 Gorgasms (omg what a lame joke...) But seriously, when I first got my set of glass stones and did that exact thing, I died and went to heaven. I was like "OMG, the sounds of the stones in Hikaru no Go are actually real! And I have them right here!" It's one of my favorite sounds.
+champ portuguesesurfer All the stones within your territory can be rearranged to make counting easier (rectangles are easiest). When everyone has made their territory easier to count, you just count up all the cross sections and receive a score. Add to that your prisoners and you have a final score.
[1] add stones you captured to the opponents territory to shrink it [1b] you can also have white place 6 or 7 black stones in black territory to make integrating komi easier too; you can then just interpret the .5 as "white wins if its a tie" [2] move stones so they're easy to count shapes; generally squares are ideal If you get a lot of captures in your game you might skip the counting altogheter, since after placing captured stones it might be completely obvious.
RubyMasterRace me too :( I also need the board been trying to find a set at least but nothing except plastic or magnetic and most art the sizes I want.
You put that glass stone into the bowl with shell ones!
As a casual player and proud owner of typical cheap glass stones I didn't even think I'd react so vividly to the orgasmic sound difference the real stones make on the board .. but MAN that click - clack difference resonated and sounded so soothing
+Luzkikon I can absolutely relate!
My friend got a slate and shell set and was pushing me to get one too. I was hesitant, and had a bit of buyer's remorse. But then I touched them and all doubt vanished. They feel indescribably good
haha that crisp sound from the shell stones gets me excited for a go game
can u do a video showing what go books you've read when u started playing..?
I am glad someone mentioned the glass stone being put into the shell set. I really like Konrad's word choice. Gravitas, I need to find more ways to incorporate that word in my life.
I lived in Japan for years in the 70's; a friend of mine gifted me a Go set.. true kaya made from thick stump wood with a nice patina, legs, and sword etched... The stones were clam and slate.. Then when I moved back the the US, I left the set there because it was too heavy to carry and I was too stupid to ship it home. It was probably worth a lot.. Every time I play go now I kick myself.
Human nature, what you take for granted, you leave behind... Maybe someone dear to you kept it for you. Who knows... It would be worth investigating, would it not? :-)
@@vlolalaniel or at least one can hope they enjoyed the set as much as the original owner
After twenty years of loving the game, I too, finally broke down and bought myself a beautiful set of slate & shell stones (and a floor goban with tachimori laquor lines) through eBay [I think it was an estate sale], and as lovely as they are, I don't get to use them nearly as often as I would like, either. They are definitely a show-piece in my parlour/living-room when I have guests, though; and, I have used them to lure many potential addicts into the obsessive ranks of competitive play in the decade since! There is definitely something about the kinesthetics that is particularly intoxicating!
I like buying good quality stuff both for the feeling and also for the longevity. I want something I can actually feel proud of passing down to my children.
I bought and I am very happy with the authentic yunzi stones. The ones whose black stones are slightly greenish when the light passes through. BUT, I think for any relatively new or casual player it is a bad investment because you need to know whether you'd be playing with anybody and if you yourself be playing regularly. It could end up being a cumbersome thing that'll stay in your closet.
I kind of just ended up with a few different sets. My first set was a folding board and glass stones I found at a Korean market. Then I decided it was kind of annoying to lug around so I bought a small magnetic set. Then I spent some money and got a Shin Kaya board and Jujube bowls from YMI. Then after a few years I decided I liked single convex better than double convex so I bought a new set of S.C. Yunzi to replace the D.C. Yunzi that came with the YMI set.
After this much time a lot of the glass stones from my first set were broken or lost, so I bought a set of S.C. glass stones from a market, but I dislike them and they were kind of a waste.
But if you are going to spend 30 dollars on glass stones, get Yunzi's instead. So much better. Shell stones have the grain on them, but Yunzi have the green halos!
My Go set came with cheap plastic stones. The black stones immediately began breaking in two. I want to get Yunzi stones and a better board.
I bought a Kaya board from mr. Kurunis about 5 years ago when I was just beginning (a few months after I began playing) and some Real Shell stones blossom grade and slate from an online dealer. When I realized how bad I sucked at the game , I put them down and didn't begin practicing on that real board until I reached Dan Level. Nick's got a point when he says he didn't feel quite worthy of playing on a several hundred to one thousand dollar set until he got good.
I'm not some snob about it, but the investment in high quality stones and board should only be made if you intend to spend several hours per week studying. You kind of can't let something that nice just sit around and collect dust ya know?
I can gladly say that I've spent several hundred hours pounding mine into the ground since I bought it -- I estimate I've put in over 200 hours practice on it since making Dan level and resuming play on it (just this year).
Size 32 stones are the ideal and at least a shin kaya board with Zelkova wood bowls are recommended for a serious set purchase. These will run you about $400-600 total if you buy second hand.
www.kiseidopublishing.com/go_equipment.htm
shop.kurokigoishi.co.jp/en/
These are some links that may help you all to get a better set.
I died a little on the inside when he swapped the lids on the first set of boxes... And the i died a bit more when he threw the white glass stone in with the other clamshell stones...
Glass stones are looking more like $60-100 these days any one have any idea where to find em cheaper?
I really love the look of Yunzi stones as opposed to shell or glass stones. The shine puts me off every time as I find it distracting and just not visually appealing.
Why the hell on amazon is everything about go so super expensive??
They have filters for cheap stuff.
I have a foldable magnetic board with little plastic stones and bowls that fit inside the board when you close it. It was, I think, around $60. It was my first set. Its nice, the board is the regular size. It has served me well for several years. My dream is to have a nice thick floor board. I told myself that I would only buy one when I have hit 1dan. Just to prove that I'm committed to studying Go. I also plan on buying some decent stones and bowls to go with my floor board. I have always thought that the board set up in the Yugen no ma room is the coolest way to play Go. I like to dream that one day I will be able to play there, challenging Iyama Yuta for a title :)
+narutoqweavatar I have the same goal, buying myself a thick-ass board when I hit 1dan.
Philippe Carphin Great minds think alike :)
gravitas?
I understand what you mean by listening to the sound of real shell go stones vs glass ones. Very kinesthetic. :-)
Gravitas.
I went to Ikea, and bought one of their $10 lamp tables, and then cut the legs to be about 6 inches and put a 2" thick table goban on top of it; Poor-man's floor goban. I mostly play with my 10-year old son on this board.
"That's the stuff right there" Love it! "I was lost, now I am found. I have played Go"
oh damn.. when I heard the sound comparison..
I learned go at a go club with glass stones and good sized boards. The set I have is tiny. The go board is about the size of a chess board and 19x19. The stones are plastic and also tiny to make up for the small board. It works fine, but it is the worst to play on. Also the stones are in small plastic bags which adds to the bad experience. I might have to get myself a proper board and glass stones.
Love Nick. Love his generosity in teaching. Love his intelligence. Hate that he says "actually" every other sentence.
Actually, I agree with you on all points.
As cheeky as in his lessons.
Sanctity/seriousity ;)
Im struggling to find a site that sells glass stones. Anyone have any suggestions. I live in Canada. THX
I'm curious, do you play much Go with your wife? Does she play at all? And if so, what rank is she?
13:22 Gorgasms (omg what a lame joke...)
But seriously, when I first got my set of glass stones and did that exact thing, I died and went to heaven. I was like "OMG, the sounds of the stones in Hikaru no Go are actually real! And I have them right here!"
It's one of my favorite sounds.
+Marco Curvello In fact, I was about to sleep but just took out my stones just to touch them =P
+Marco Curvello That... might have come out wrong...
Nice socks, Nick.
Just kidding, keep up the amazing work.
Is there some special way you clean the shell and slate stones?
Can you do a series to review the AlphaGo vs Lee Sedol games coming up??
the box of your glass stones says it's made of real shell :) this -> 本蛤
2:46
What size stones do the Japanese pros play with
Oh yeah that’s the stuff
Ceremony?
I would like to buy double convex glass stones but all I find are glass single convex stones on amazon
You will have better luck in eBay or Alibaba
My god you have such beautiful hands
Sanctity!
What is the name of the music you use for your intro? I feel like I've heard it before and it's driving me crazy.
I believe he writes his own music
could u please make a video on how to count the territory please i never know who won ...
+champ portuguesesurfer All the stones within your territory can be rearranged to make counting easier (rectangles are easiest). When everyone has made their territory easier to count, you just count up all the cross sections and receive a score. Add to that your prisoners and you have a final score.
mit1mit2mity4 thx for the help bro
[1] add stones you captured to the opponents territory to shrink it
[1b] you can also have white place 6 or 7 black stones in black territory to make integrating komi easier too; you can then just interpret the .5 as "white wins if its a tie"
[2] move stones so they're easy to count shapes; generally squares are ideal
If you get a lot of captures in your game you might skip the counting altogheter, since after placing captured stones it might be completely obvious.
sanctity?
I can't find a set of stones for less than 50$...
RubyMasterRace me too :( I also need the board been trying to find a set at least but nothing except plastic or magnetic and most art the sizes I want.
Imagine a Kaya go board with a brass plating on the side, and Dark Onyx and Silver Go stones O.O
Sacrosanct?
Ambience?
sensuousness ?
13:39 i came
sancity