Remy's Character Arc Make Zero Sense...

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
    @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +5

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    • @EstelaAfonso-ws9vd
      @EstelaAfonso-ws9vd 3 месяца назад +1

      I have a slightly different opinion. Nothing against Remy. I could accept his lessons. My problem (huge problem) is Linguini. To me, he's the only one who learns nothing and gets something. Even Colette deserves to be a Chef and that is not guaranteed.

    • @Asteroids50
      @Asteroids50 3 месяца назад +1

      Beetlejuice is 85% vibes and 15% plot and people love it. You should totally do a video on Beetlejuice!

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +1

      @EstelaAfonso-ws9vd yeah linguini is a really weirdly handled character

    • @haziqkhurshid8391
      @haziqkhurshid8391 2 месяца назад

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  • @eatatjoes6751
    @eatatjoes6751 3 месяца назад +89

    Anton Ego’s speech about criticism in relation to art is still the best goddamn speech I’ve ever heard.

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +13

      I wish Anton was more of a character throughout the narrative. His scenes are my absolute favorite. Also is that profile pick a CYBERCHASE character!?!??!

    • @eatatjoes6751
      @eatatjoes6751 3 месяца назад

      @@TheWritersBlockOfficial Yeah, it is. I barely watched/remember all of it because it was math-related, but what I can remember is that Motherboard’s infected with an outdated virus and as a kid it made me angry due to being invested (as an adult it still does, because you can’t just drop an overarching plot about math and pivot to something like, say, ecology without it feeling jarring. It’d be like if you had a government show and it pivots toward yammering about selling lemonade because the topic of gerontocracy is too hard for a TV show despite being part of the topic you picked) along with the fact that it’s *still going!* (which is also why, if I suggest making a video about it, give a general overview or point out that this is what happens when you initially have a cool idea but then *wham!* you can’t finish it because the underlying topic is too broad).
      As for Anton’s character, yeah, he just…kinda popped out of nowhere now that I think about it, because Skinner can’t carry an entire film without getting irritating, yet I don’t think he received enough foreshadowing.

    • @calebmcurby8580
      @calebmcurby8580 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@TheWritersBlockOfficial You might say that the writing of his character left you "hungry for more".

  • @TipzEOne
    @TipzEOne 3 месяца назад +30

    I was a little sad you missed the 1 scene i always took the most exception with in this movie (even the very first time i saw it).
    The movie tries to drill in this idea that "stealing is wrong".
    But that's not really the message.
    At one point in the movie, Remy is starving, and Linguini notices this and steals the cheese himself to give to Remy.
    And let's be clear, it is stealing on Linguinis part. He is an employee in the restaurant, not the owner of that food. So he's taking product for himself without paying.
    I'd say the movie just 'ignores' this bit, but truthfully i think it's hiding the more "true" nature of what (the makers of the film) think is "stealing". And it's not a good one.
    Linguini stealing isn't stealing because he's doing so to "pay" Remy for the services he's done for him - helping him cook.
    Linguini obtaining this food illicitly himself is moot because he's "a side character" in this "theme".
    Remy taking food for the selfish reason of not wanting not to die is "selfish". Remy getting food (that was stolen) given to him as payment is fine because he "earned" it.
    ----
    I love Brad Byrd's movies, but they are ripe with this kind of incoherent messaging as they twist themselves in knots to support ideology that simply doesn't compute in real world scenarios (And arguably not even in the movies).
    Even the incredibles has (as one of) the message that it's wrong for the world to prevent the supers from living as they want (be it going out for sports, or being a superhero or whatever), because they are 'restricting' their natural talents unfairly.
    In the same exact movie, Bob uses his superior strength to assault his boss because his boss because his boss didn't care about a random robbery. And this is treated as 'right' by the movie (Bob loses his job for it, but it's "karmic justice" on his boss).
    While his boss is inarguably an a-hole, it does show that the world is actually right to restrict and monitor the supers powers. After all, they can (and will) use them to get their way, or punish those who stand in theirs.
    This is a problem if you think the message is "people should be allowed to be who they are", but it's not if you think the message is "some people are allowed to do what they want because they are innately more deserving".

  • @Plain_Lane
    @Plain_Lane 3 месяца назад +39

    This is so interesting. Ratatouille is a movie i see as pretty flawless. But you make a good point that he's always been against his father and social norms of rattitude. I still think he has a good arc overall but maybe he could have used someone to check his ego. Linguini is almost immediately okay with Remy taking over and literally controlling him. That scene of him seeing the rat trap store is still good though to sorta drive the point of not trusting humans home.

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +6

      Yeah it's only on rewatching it closer that I really noticed these issues and like I mentioned, the overall product is so high quality that you don't really notice or care

  • @Danika0Love
    @Danika0Love 3 месяца назад +42

    I was spacing out while listening and deadass thought you said “Michael McQueen” for a minute. Secret Cars character unlocked.

  • @Asteroids50
    @Asteroids50 3 месяца назад +29

    Even after Remy pilots him for weeks/months Linguini never learns to cook and I find that weird. He can’t cook bc Remy is the only special one who has cooking superpowers. I wish the movie had ended with Remy as the Chef (aka the one who invents new recipes) and Linguini as a cook (the person who makes the food)

  • @ThisIsNotMyUsername
    @ThisIsNotMyUsername 3 месяца назад +13

    Vibes is definitely the reason I love the film because once I think about it too hard, I realize how flawed it is. It's the type of film I put on after a long day at work so I can eat some cheerios and relax.

  • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
    @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +14

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  • @robertlauncher
    @robertlauncher 3 месяца назад +30

    I will never forget how bad the first reveal trailer for this movie was. The actual movie is a sophisticated and heartfelt dive into culinary arts, passionately chasing your dreams, kitchen culture, and the idea that greatness can come from anywhere.
    The trailer had Remy starting off with the “Bet you’re wondering how I got here” trope and continued as this really cringe and lame comedy putting emphasis on how wwwwwhacky a rat cooking is! The movie being great was a huge shock for me.

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah. Disney marketing is really hit or miss with that. The irreverence worked really well for the Stitch marketing, but the VO is kind of out of place even in the final product for Ratatouille, so it feels extra weird in the marketing.

    • @eatatjoes6751
      @eatatjoes6751 3 месяца назад +3

      @@TheWritersBlockOfficial There’s a second trailer that’s like, “From the cooks that brought you (Pixar’s other movies)." and that trailer is a lot less…cringey in hindsight.

    • @robertlauncher
      @robertlauncher 3 месяца назад

      @@eatatjoes6751Oh it’s miles better.

    • @eatatjoes6751
      @eatatjoes6751 3 месяца назад

      @@robertlauncher Agreed.

  • @wyattrose5511
    @wyattrose5511 3 месяца назад +7

    Dude, this popped into my recommended and I’m really glad it did. We need more video essayists like you out there. Just watched your Kylo Ren video, and you do a really great job with all this. Can’t wait to watch the rest of your catalogue and see what you do next

  • @novalinnhe
    @novalinnhe 3 месяца назад +5

    You talked about movies getting by on vibes alone, it's so funny because there's one Pixar movie you had on the 'Bad' tier in your list - Elemental - which is absolutely that for me! All the warm glowing colours on screen, and the love the various characters have for one another between both families. I think it's the sweetest thing and was so happy that it became a 'sleeper hit' where I live; the cinemas showed it for months based off word of mouth so I got to see it more than once. :)

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +3

      I really liked the vibes of elemental too. I just felt the story and structure was weak. I loved loved loved the visuals and characters

    • @novalinnhe
      @novalinnhe 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheWritersBlockOfficial Ah, fair enough! I really enjoyed the story personally - it is a little hamfisted in places, but I've started to expect that now from family-oriented movies haha. It also explores the topic of familial pressure as a first-generation child (if your parents immigrated to another country), so maybe my own personal identification with that topic helped too. There are definitely some jokes and story threads which I think can get a little lost without some understanding of that particular context.
      I think it's so interesting to hear other people's takes on movies, everyone receives them so differently! This is why I enjoy your channel, you present your thoughts in a fun and clear way, and always give an interesting perspective to think about. Glad I found it! :)

  • @Trecherousbeast
    @Trecherousbeast 3 месяца назад +5

    I really love how instead of just saying “this is bad,” you also show an alternative on how it could be done well. There was another video I came across a little while ago, that was made by one of the writers of Toy Story 3, pretty much going through every rough draft they made, showing every wall they hit and how they got over it. It was like watching someone criticize a bad movie and showing the alternative that could make it good, and I’ve seen videos like this as much more interesting than bashing on something you hate.

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад

      Thanks! That's almost always my goals. Sometimes negative framing (titles/rhumbnails) are needed for the algorithm, but I always want my actual content to be constructive. I want to help people put words to why they do or don't like something, and understand how to make better media

    • @KnightEclipser
      @KnightEclipser 3 месяца назад

      Michael Arndt (the Toy Story 3 writer whom you referred to) uses he/him pronouns.

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +1

      I think the commenter was just using they as a non specific pronoun rather than implying anything about gender

  • @sharpeningtheaxe
    @sharpeningtheaxe 2 месяца назад +1

    0:11 This list made me realize just how few Pixar movies have female main characters.

  • @fallabeaufaebelle
    @fallabeaufaebelle 3 месяца назад +4

    Brilliant analysis. I hated this movie when it first came out, but I like it a lot more as an adult. Your points hit the nail on the head. The quality of the movie overall makes the disjointed parts stand out, but it can be hard to articulate because it's overall a great film. You did an excellent job picking things apart with a very keen critical lens. Your love for movies is clear, which I super appreciate in reviews and analysis videos. Sometimes people can come off as "haters" but you do an excellent job pointing out where and why things don't work while showing how and why other things *do*, which is super important to understand both when making quality entertainment. Moreover, you provide solutions to make the subpar parts work with the overall story. That's one of my favorite parts of an analysis because you get new ideas by hearing how other people would go about doing things.
    To summarize, this whole video is *chef's kiss*~

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +2

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate the specificity of your kind words. It's really helpful to know what aspects people are enjoying/connecting with so I can be sure to focus on them. Thanks again!

  • @kudzaichiriseri9763
    @kudzaichiriseri9763 3 месяца назад +4

    something better wud have been if linguini ended up cooking and prove anyone can cook

  • @Asteroids50
    @Asteroids50 3 месяца назад +16

    After rewatching as an adult it’s clear director Brad Bird has some weird complex about specialness. Gusteau says “ANYONE can cook” instead of EVERYONE can cook. And the film literally says “not everyone can cook, but a great chef can come from anywhere.” Which is just so wack. Like I get that’s it’s supposed to be about greatness having humble beginnings, but why can’t everyone cook? Maybe not everyone can invent new recipes or be a master chef, but everyone can cook food.

    • @genericperson360
      @genericperson360 3 месяца назад +5

      You’re missing the point of Gusteau’s words and the movie in general. “Anyone can cook, but only the fearless can be great” is the full line. Sure, anyone can put together a bowl of mac and cheese or some hot dogs, but it takes dedication, hard work, and a passion for cooking to be a five-star worthy gourmet chef.
      As for Ego’s closing remarks, I always interpreted it as “not everyone can be a great chef, but a great chef can come from anywhere.” Most people don’t become great chefs, whether because of lack of skill or interest, but everyone has the potential to, and they can come from unexpected origins. An immigrant who doesn’t speak English very well could be the top chef in a five star restaurant. An old lady who’s never been to culinary school could make the best meals you’ve ever had. “Don’t underestimate people’s talents just because of external factors” is what I’m mostly getting from it.

    • @fishyfishyfishy500akabs8
      @fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 3 месяца назад +2

      Anton Ego spells it out at the end of the movie. What was meant is that “Not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist *can* come from anywhere.”
      I myself am a lot happier than I was before, trying desperately to match the great artists I am inspired by, but forcing myself into art to become “great” only severs it from my own reasons for making it, that being more personal reasons like my own enjoyment, expression, etc. Perhaps one day I would be considered “great”, but as of now I know that according to most people’s judgement, my art is nothing better than a hobbyist’s level according to criterion and if you judged it more objectively.
      I struggle with drawing anything human for example, and the whole concept of light, straight lines, and 3D perspective is difficult on me. Getting over that hurdle is something very difficult for me to overcome, and it is something that I currently don’t have too much time for.
      The quote has to do with the doing, accepting that not everyone will be a great artist nor would want or aspire to be. But that a great artist can come from even the most unexpected of places.
      Some People give up before they reach that point, some people simply don’t have the time to do so, others don’t find the motivation to do so. You can’t force someone who does *not* want to do art to do art. And would you call someone who does not even make art an artist?
      But those who can make great art and do make great art don’t just come from one place and one place only, they’re not all rich or not all poor, not all big or small. Ultimately they’re their own person.

  • @aspacelex
    @aspacelex 3 месяца назад +26

    You can't, the movie's already come out. Sorry mate.

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +10

      What???? Bro why did nobody tell me until now!!

    • @lucasveloso-27111
      @lucasveloso-27111 Месяц назад

      I mean they could do something like what George Lucas did with the Special Editions, but that would require drastic changes.

  • @lucasveloso-27111
    @lucasveloso-27111 Месяц назад

    I think Alien Romulus is a great example of “vibes over plot.”

  • @Astrolionking
    @Astrolionking 2 месяца назад +1

    My whole issue with the stealing issue is that this movie is teetering the line of “doesn’t matter if you’re less fortunate and can’t get food any other way. You’re a horrible person for stealing!!” That is if I’m correct that this film has at least a semi-metaphor for poor people.

  • @KnightEclipser
    @KnightEclipser 3 месяца назад +4

    One thing that I take issue with in Ratatouille is that Remy's vengeance against Linguini and the "revenge is bad" messaging come out of left field. I'm okay with plot inconveniences, but Remy's vengeance against Linguini is an important plot point intended to affect the plot and be a part of the former character, when it was never established or set up prior to Remy deciding to steal from Gusteau's.
    I get that animals naturally feel vengeful upon being wronged, but I still don't think this fits what was established or set up in Remy's story (not that he wouldn't have a desire for revenge if he were wronged prior to Linguini taking credit).

  • @RomaroBrandon
    @RomaroBrandon 3 месяца назад +8

    Why are Cars 3 and Finding Dory so low on your tier list?

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +2

      It's more a function of how many great/amazing pixar films there are. Cars 3 and Finding Dory are both just really solid. Both have moments that really stand out, but there's also a lot that in my opinion is forgettable or fails to add anything new to the series they are a part of. But they're not like Toy Story 4 which actively takes away from the series IMO

  • @MCLegoboy
    @MCLegoboy 3 месяца назад +7

    Hearing you try to figure out the logistics of human/rat relations in this movie is like hearing people try to rationalize the world of Cars. Sometimes it's best to just not think about it. But that's the antithesis of this channel.
    Also, is your mother the AP Teacher, or were you crushing on your old AP teacher?
    And I'll be honest, I was a bit distracted because anytime this movie it brought up, I think back to a special feature from Season 2 of Clone Wars where the showrunners are lamenting how bad their food looks because when they were working on the show Ratatouille was released. Creating new assets costs money, and it's better to do that for characters than food, and so here's this dinner scene with a bunch of Senators on Duchess Satine's ship, and they're eating Space KFC because that's pretty much what they had for food. That episode's great, but when you start to really think about what's going on, it's pretty bare bones. By the time of Bad Batch in 2024 though, they've got some great looking food in these Star Wars shows. My life is too dominated by Star Wars, I'll find any way to take something seemingly unrelated and make it about that.

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +1

      A) I would say it's a little different since the human/rat relations is directly part of one of this movies (admittedly muddled) themes, whereas Cars' theme has nothing to do with whether a paintjob is a tatoo or new clothes (but seriously which one is it??????). I do think Ratatouille also falls into the weird middle ground for me of "you've talked about it x number of times so now I'm focused on it but you needed to talk about it z amount of times for it to make sense."
      B) My actual mom is employed as an AP teacher and that's what she says to the students who try to treat English class like Math
      C) I never saw that bonus feature but now that I think about it some of the assets were hilariously jank. The main things the show focuses on are so visually interesting, so you usually don't notice, but if you pay attention to the backgrounds you notice where the money went for sure. It's like how in older Disney cartoons you'd see character directly painted into the background that never moved, since you're eye is meant to focus on the moving characters

    • @MCLegoboy
      @MCLegoboy 3 месяца назад +2

      @@TheWritersBlockOfficial Oh man, I see people point out things like duplicated background characters and stuff like that as reasons why the show isn't as good, but like, everyone does that, it's just learning how to use your budget efficiently. I'm sure there were plenty of characters in Ratatouille that were static. If you know what you're doing and can get people to look where they should for a scene, it doesn't need to become a hassle on your animators.

    • @fishyfishyfishy500akabs8
      @fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 3 месяца назад

      @@MCLegoboy a mime that is the spitting image of Bomb voyage does exist in the movie, that much is known.

  • @lucasveloso-27111
    @lucasveloso-27111 3 месяца назад +2

    0:11 Where does Inside Out 2 land on your list?

  • @allye9865
    @allye9865 3 месяца назад +4

    I want the raccoon version from the other universe

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  3 месяца назад +1

      That and a sequel to Crazy Rich Asians are the two Harry Shum Jr. Projects we need ASAP. His Grey's Anatomy job can wait!

  • @NTD2827
    @NTD2827 3 месяца назад +2

    I kind of feel like Batman Returns (1992) works because of the vibes

  • @ericcutler4774
    @ericcutler4774 2 месяца назад +1

    I agree the subplots are muddled. However, I would say Remy is meant to have a flat arc rather than a positive arc. Meaning, Remy isn't meant to learn a big lesson during the story. Instead, he knows the truth and uses that to change the world and people around him. That sort of happens. At the very least, he is more confident in his abilities and beliefs by the end of the story. Also yeah, the movie is just good vibes all around - that Ego flashback always hits in the feels.

    • @TheWritersBlockOfficial
      @TheWritersBlockOfficial  2 месяца назад

      I agree it's going for a flat arc but I feel like the overall message is also muddled. Whereas in something like Christopher Robin (arguably the most under rated live action disney adaptation) it's much more clear and concise how pooh bear changes the people around him

  • @TheCreatorM
    @TheCreatorM 20 дней назад

    4:40, yeah, I also never understood that scene

  • @flipr52
    @flipr52 3 месяца назад +4

    Nice video

  • @tony8076
    @tony8076 3 месяца назад +3

    Using modern slang finding a new meaning that anyone can COOK!! let them COOK

  • @cruzmesa8079
    @cruzmesa8079 3 месяца назад

    In terms of movies who have the best vibes, it has to be Blade Runner 2049. The movie doesn't have that much of a plot and plot threads doesn't connect well to each other, but it has the best cinematography and good world building with a cool soundtrack.

  • @Pomoscorzo
    @Pomoscorzo 3 месяца назад +2

    "Ratatouille" seems to be a cynical movie where the rats represent immigrants. 😢

  • @Rattlecat
    @Rattlecat 2 месяца назад

    This is a fucking gorgeous video just like most of yours. It also highlights something I never even noticed despite watchin the film multiple times---but I do disagree that the dead rat scene is the darkest Pixar's ever touched on. In a Pixar movie, I agree. But across their entire filmography, I feel the first Planes movie in its entirety is the darkest. We woulda have never gotten a movie with humans where the main protag is having to deal with a failing body organ that they know can't be replaced and will ultimately result in their death. I know it's a specific barely significant thing to mention out of the entire video, but it pinged my brain and I was like "... Nah." since its one of the very few times I disagree with your points LOL.

  • @thispersonwriting1889
    @thispersonwriting1889 3 месяца назад

    This video could have, and should have, been at most three minutes long. And it should have featured orangutans and a car chase. Additionally, it also ought to have been in Polish because I can’t understand English.
    Sincerely, me, a crazy person.

  • @Ce13stialBunny
    @Ce13stialBunny 3 месяца назад +2

    Trans Masc icon Remy
    Ratatouille should’ve been the first film in three Criterion Collection
    It is INCREDIBLE, the best Pixar film by far (in my opinion)
    And! If you weren’t aware, fun fact
    There are 85 movies with the character or using the name Django in them
    Spanning from 1966 to present day
    The original is a loose remake of Yojimbo (1961)

  • @cjc2010
    @cjc2010 3 месяца назад

    Coco just good? Unsubbed.