NO WAY, NOT CLARA!!! Doctor Who Reaction - 9x10 - Face the Raven
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Capaldi's dark Doctor is chilling.
He absolutely nails to the wall "The Doctor is no longer here, you are stuck with me", and "You'll find it's a very small universe when I'm angry with you".
Clara’s death may seem sudden and just from one mistake, but her recklessness had been getting more extreme for a while. You can tell the Doctor is struggling because he feels responsible, and he is in part. Clara was starting to mimic the Doctor’s attitude and behaviour, but without his timelord abilities. He didn’t stop her.
Exactly. SHe's trying to be the Doctor, but she's more breakable than he is. There are clues going way back when you look for them. For example, in Flatline:
CLARA: "Come on, why can't you say it? I was the Doctor and I was good."
DOCTOR: "You were an exceptional Doctor, Clara."
CLARA: "Thank you."
DOCTOR: "Goodness had nothing to do with it."
Since the shadow can't be taken, it must be given by the one who carrys it, if the one who takes it agrees to it.
Since Clara would not give it to the doctor he can't take it from her as much as he would like. And he knows it.
Clara is my favourite companion from New Who (Adric was my favourite from classic Who) so this was a heart-wrenching story. And I really love the choice they made to have Facing the Raven hurt (rather than the companion quietly slipping away off screen like Amy and Rory), and I love Jenna's performance.
Such a good episode.
Mine, too.
The music in this episode and the next two episodes is absolutely stunning. Augmenting exactly as it needs to, backing away in just the right places, swelling, then solos, then ominous. Murray Gold is the MVP
15:02 “and then the doctor will regenerate” keep in mind that the doctor can still die. If the death is absolute and quick then he will die. As seen in turn Left. I don’t think he’d be able to survive the raven as the death is instantaneous he wouldn’t have time to regenerate. Just something to remember. Regeneration is NOT immortality.
Broke my heart to see how you reacted to Clara’s scene. I remember crying so hard.
Hope your throat is better.❤
Joivan Wade (Rigsy) goes onto play DC superhero Cyborg in 'Doom Patrol' opposite Timothy Dalton (Rassilon) & Michelle Gomez (Missy).
That foreseer is Letitia Wright - Marvel's current (female) Black Panther.
One of things I like about the music is you hear a excerpt of Clara's theme but the end notes are played incorrectly.
If you become the Doctor, you die like the Doctor.
Love Jenna Coleman as Clara. She is definitely my number one companion of NuWho. Such a dramatic exit from a companion who was gradually acting more and more like the Doctor. She just ended up being more breakable.
That man has nothing to do with Danny Pink. He’s the guy who Clara meets in the episode with the 2D zombie people. Flatline in series 8
Goodbye companion is one of those characters who had a separate opinion, made her own decisions and actions, where there was a feeling that we really were facing two different heroes and both thought differently and in their own way.
And not a companion who is simply an extension of the Doctor’s hand and thoughts, agreeing with everything and only helping him.
Goodbye Clara
There are 1 weeks left until the wait for the masterpiece! [4]
This trilogy is one of the show's best
25:52 ... Nah, she'll be fine! 😅🤭 (Critical Drinker)
See, I have to make light of the situation here just a little bit. I guess we're gonna go through the five stages of depression now with the Doctor...
And I have broght my tissues, I'm already crying....
This episode break my heart... Can't wait to see next week episode. 👀👀👀
Me too. And the episode after that. This trilogy is so good!
i don't think clara can pass on the quantum shade onto someone else, even if she wanted to
Ashildr says the contract has been broken. It seems to me like the deal is between Clara and the Raven, now. And Clara might not be able to do the same things with it that Ashildr can - we already know Ashildr could break a death sentence, for example.
nicologik this episode has a short post-credit scene before the "next time" trailer
"Fun" fact: Jenna Coleman's birthday is international crow and raven appreciation day
"your reign of terror will end at the sight of the first crying child and you know it" "no i don't" - i think that's true. i think he's so angry right here he actually doesn't know if he could stop himself once he got started
i'm vibrating rn i swear, i'm so excited to see your reaction to the next 2 episodes
All i got to say is that next episode is one of the best doctor who episodes ever made.
just in case you missed it there is an after credits scene in this one
And... There goes my Clara . . . 😔
Tbh, I remember being already kinda traumatized by the teaser to this episode. That felt SO weird, I watched it for the first time when I was still pretty hungover (yeah, imagine that with Sleep No More 😅. )
I'd say in the end she was brave enough.
And speaking of unusual takes, I can definitely tell my own when it comes to the next two episodes. Very special episodes to my heart. But I'm mostly in the minority for that. I'll explain further later. For the most part, I hope you will be able to enjoy them. 👍
The story itself is fairly interesting, but I really didn't like Clara's recklessness. In a way it reminds me of what RTD did with Rose in Series 2: take an existing character flaw, run rampant with it, and then punish the character for it.
One thing they did right by Clara is the way she said goodbye to the Doctor, though.
It would probably be fair to say that fan opinion is split on Clara. A lot of fans dislike her. Some love her. I don't know which group is larger. Personally, I liked her sometimes but not at other times. Series 8 did a lot of damage to both her and this Doctor's characters in my view, so even in episodes when I liked one or the other it was a case of clawing back points that had previously been lost.
I'd rate this episode 3.5 out of 5
I saw the death coming, as Clara has had a death wish all season.
As for the Doctor not switching with Clara, he probably realised it would take a life, not a regeneration, so he would die also. In any case, the "baddies" had gone to a lot of trouble to capture him, they wouldn't be willing to allow him to commit suicide now.
Thanks for a great reaction and review of a very good and emotional episode. Series 9 has been very nice, this far. Such a sad and horrific ending. I wasn't ready for this. 😢 Yet again, thanks for a magnificent channel.
Bye Clara. It was Clara's overconfidence that got her killed.
Honestly this episode will always break my heart 💔
i've been waiting for this
I've never thought about the doctor taking on the chronolock....maybe it can only be transferred between humans? Or maybe it can only be transferred once? Who knows....there must have been some reason why it was a no-go, though, cause I'm sure 12 would have taken it in a heartbeat if he could.
I don't think it could be taken - only given, and the Doctor knew Clara wouldn't.
@Llanchlo ah, I like that interpretation...except for the fact that I think she probably wouldnt, given the Doctors regeneration abilities...that said, she Def had a death wish...nope, I've come back around to really liking this :)
@@joshuathompson2404 Also it was said that the raven could not be cheated - so I assume it would return and kill any regeneration too.
I think @Llanchlo is right. It's been a while since I last saw the episode, but I found this line in the transcript: "Two ways to survive a Quantum Shade. The Shade's master removes the chronolock, or you can give it to someone else."
@@andrewgwilliam4831 nice.
3:26 my social anxiety
Haha, mine, too :D
I don't think the Doctor would have been able to take the raven, I don't remember exactly but it can probably only be traded the one time, and even if he suggested it Clara would need to allow it and I don't think she would have at all.
Their a end scene credit u missed
I also watched this episode in the chat.
Let me just say that people were shocked that this was happening and every moment made them cry and worry more.
- Oh no, is this really happening?
After some time:
- Oh my God, a violin and a piano appeared, other musical instruments, this is really happening :(
Every moment, people realized more and more that this was serious.
Afterwards an expression appeared, although the first word is often changed.
Stupid raven.
Dumb raven.
Damn raven.
Etc
PS: However, her death was still necessary to create the atmosphere of a masterpiece episode
Uh hang on you might be a genius… why didn’t the the doctor take it.. he isn’t mortal I don’t know how the Raven would handle that…. That works in my head… I know Clara wanted to own the moment but… he would do that in a heartbeat. Both heartbeats
The raven is given, not taken. And clara would never give it to the doctor.
Also you can't cheat it. If the doctor took it he would just die, no regenerations.
The doctor is mortal though. He just has the ability to rapidly heal his entire body by changing his cells. He is NOT immortal or a god. The raven would have killed him instantaneously meaning he would not have any time to regenerate. Thus he would be dead dead. Jack harness however, he would have been able to survive it possibly. As would ME (ashilda)
even though Clara is the worst companion Doctor ever had, even worse than Rose, this episode is still heartbreaking because of Doctor's suffering.
Why is Clara the worst?
I'm not a huge fan of Clara's, but in the classic era we had one companion who tried to murder the Doctor, and another who was introduced and then wasn't seen again until his final story! Or I suppose there's Adam from Series 1.
@@andrewgwilliam4831 what's wrong with Clara?
@phantomsidious2934 I don't like her being a liar in Series 8, and I don't like her recklessness. If they hadn't also made the Doctor frequently unlikeable in Series 8 it might've been okay, but for me it's a problem when you don't like (and can't trust) either of the two regular characters and they have a relationship that's borderline toxic. Although they dialled some things back for Series 9 we still have the recklessness that is allowed to go unchecked until it kills her. Even earlier in this episode there's the ridiculous scene where she's enjoying hanging out the Tardis. I suppose it didn't help that her story had apparently reached a natural end on more than one occasion, and yet she continued on.
There are other times when she's great, or when they handle well that she's been damaged by events. So it's a mixed bag, which is why I never count myself as someone who "hates" Clara. I just don't put her anywhere near the top tier.
@@andrewgwilliam4831 the doctor was unlikable? Thought he was great
The return of the season 8 12th doctor, with his attitude and ferocity not to mention hes wearing his proper Doctor costume and not that embarrassing and scruffy hoodie and t shirt look hes had for most of this series...what was that about? Anyway capaldi especially in the last part of this story was amazing. Cool little cliffhanger also. Clara is a good companion and I feel the hate towards her from most of the fan base is unjustified or at least the hate feels over the top, and yes she's way better than Rose who became pretty selfish especially in the second season. At least Clara sacrificed herself for Rigsy. "Me" returning is disappointing as shes bland and irritating but yeah, its not a great episode, good concept but didn't work for me as a whole...but next episode however....