There's a story in classic Who, where the 6th Doctor is put on trial by someone called " the Valeyard", who was an evil version of the Doctor from "somewhere between his 12th and final regeneration". I can't help but wonder who the Doctor was referring to in that line. The warrior who fought in the Time War or the Valeyard, and, for the first time, I can see how that last one could come into existence.
It's one of my faves too but also hilarious because everytime he says that I'm like "Yeah. You are stuck with me. Me as in Ashildr since that's what she calls herself. LOL"
I love Clara because she is the one companion who knows the doctor. His personality, his history, river, Amy, his family, the war doctor, 10, 11, 12. His relationship with the daleks, the master, the patanoster gang, and all of the classic doctors. Ever other companion knows THEIR doctor. She knows THE doctor. Only her and river do.
Aidan Vickery I agree. Peter may not be the best Doctor in my eyes, but he is certainly one of the best actors to play the Doctor. And no other actor could have pulled off ‘Heaven Sent’ in the way he did. Without spoiling it for Jess, he is nothing short of outstanding in that episode.
This is what I like about her reactions. She is smart and very prescient about what will happen next. Even her comments about how Clara's arc ends and how Doctory Clara can be.. very prescient.
I know Clara was never the most popular of companions, but for me, she was Capaldi's best companion and one of the best companions of Modern Who. I will admit, when she was properly introduced in 'The Bells of Saint John', she was didn't have that much of a personality, but from 'The Name of the Doctor' to 'Last Christmas' she started to slowly improve even if I had some problems (her relationship with Danny and the constant lying). However, it was this series that finally made me connect with Clara, and the close bond and devotion she shared with 12 was very heartfelt. In fact, for me, it felt reminiscent of the legendary dynamic between Tom Baker and Elizabeth Sladen. Jenna Coleman was brilliant throughout and her death in this episode was beautifully portrayed with great impact. 'Face the Raven' was a great episode, but the next one's a killer. It's one hell of a bird!
I dont know why she wasnt liked. I love Amy and Rory but If I met Amy in real life I would find her annoying. In the begining she was scared and didnt really take chances and looked for the doctor for help all the time. Towards the end she was better. Clara on the other hand was always the one to jump and go head on with the doctor. I mean she was hanging out the tardis and laughing. If that happens to Amy she would have screamed. Clara and Bill are my fav companions.
Ryan Pollard I adored Peter and Clara's relationship. They felt so real to me, from the lying to each other at the start to the deep emotions of now, they both grew so well together 💜
A lot of people call her unlikeable or say she was more important than the Doctor in her episodes without actually thinking about why she was written the way she was and how it was important to her character arc.
Shoopan I can't discuss it more because of where she is at in the story. But it is all completely there for a reason. What is to come as well, such a beautiful set up. Magnificently done in my opinion (I lurk about the opinion though because of scorn 😂😂😂👍)
Sounds bad but I really love the doctors dark side, just the idea that he could (if he wanted to) bend the universe to his will but he doesn’t. He’s like the ultimate villain but the ultimate hero at the same time
It is sad,but Clara should know why. She is not a Timelord with backup regeneration lives, she is human. I think when Danny died,she didn’t care though
In a strange way, this episode highlighted both the best quality and the worse quality of Clara. Her big heart, selfless compassion and keen observation were on display. Also shown was her reckless adventurousness, self righteous obstinacy and overconfident cleverness. And I think that's why she's was a controversial companion, because she did have major flaws. Some of them were severe. In comparison Rose, who was RTD Mary Sue, she was hugely likable and her flaws were being naive and a romantic. Martha Jones was smart with a twinge of lovesick and Donna who was bold and clueless, but these three characters grew. Clara also followed the two other companions that made the show hugely popular. Most of these characters had a smooth storyline. Clara on the other hand didn't: She had three introductions. She had three personalities. (All played brilliantly, by Jenna) Clara first story arc was overshadowed by the path to the 50th and more about her mystery than building her character. And the solution to that mystery was either clever or contrived. However, I find that re-watching the Clara storyline within Moffat's over all Doctor story, she is actually one of the most complex characters of the run with one extensive characters growth.
A scene that was filmed but never included in deleted scenes for some reason was, after Clara's death 12 actually picks up her body and carries her inside, resting her on a bed. That's why after her death we see 12 entering the room from another side room rather than outside, then he asks Ashildr not to wipe Rigsys memory so he can take Clara's body and tell her family about her death and give her a proper funeral, unfortunately that dialogue was cut as well. :'(
Hannahpauline Sarah Dollard (the writer of this episode) talked about it on Twitter and there are a couple set photos with Clara in the doctors arms. Also if you watch the episode you’ll see that after Clara’s death, the doctor enters the room from another side room where he had just placed Clara’s body, rather than the exterior street :)
I'm curious, how exactly was Rigsy going to explain her death? Was he going to have to make up some BS cause of death? Cause if there was any hole in his story, he'd be the first murder suspect.
From "The Girl Who Died" "Look at you. Your eyes. Your 'never giving up'. Your anger. Your kindness. One day, the memory of that will hurt so much I won't be able to breathe." I'm just gonna sit here and not breath for a while ;-;
Hell Bent is much better than people think. It's just not what people expected. Once you accept that and look at the story we got without constantly comparing it to the one we didn't... it's quite a beaufitul and moving story.
Ashildr/Me says in The Woman Who Lived about Clara, "she'll die on you ya know.... she'll blow away like smoke" and in this episode she literally did die and blow away like smoke (the black smoke coming out her mouth). For me that was some seriously clever foreshadowing
The two saddest things about this for me... How Clara's main arc has largely been about how she has become more and more like the Doctor himself, right up to this point. But as the Doctor says, he's less breakable than she is. Her death looked like a regeneration, she was like the Doctor even in death, but she doesn't get to live on as he does. When leaving Bristol in Series 8's Flatline, the last thing the Doctor says to Rigsy is "Your last painting was so good it saved the world. I can't wait to see what you do next". The mural to Clara is the next painting of his we see.
There's something incredibly powerful about this episode, the idea that a companion of the doctor could die from such a simple mistake. Really poignant. There is a tendency in DW to give the companion a happy ending but I think occasionally they should do this sort of thing, remind the audience that traveling with The Doctor is a dangerous life and it can have consequences.
'Happy endings'? There actually haven't been many happy endings in the revived era. Rose's originally ending was getting trapped in a parallel universe (even though she ended up living life with metacrisis). Martha's original ending wasn't happy, but at least it wasn't tragic. Donna got her mind wiped which in my opinion is the saddest. Amy and Rory wasn't too sad as they could still live their life together but still heartbreaking because the Doctor and their family and friends could never see them again. And Clara wasn't even too sad in the end. She's traveling the universe until time needs her to die on trap street. Bill's original ending was really tragic and as far as the Doctor knows she died as a Cyberman. So, I don't really know what you mean with happy endings. Clara actually ends up getting one of the happiest. Bill ends up getting a happy one as well I guess, and Rose 2 series after her original ending. Everyone else is sad :(
There weren't too many in the original era either. Susan was left behind in a Dalek-infested London. Tegan volunteered for the same fate. Adric couldn't apply the brakes. Peri, well who really knows? At least Ian and Barbara made it back. Eventually. And Jamie went all the way back.
No, but something I love about this. Is really how Clara and the Doctor's traps reflect one another, neither wanted a little girl to grow up without their parent. And that's beautiful and terrible, because Clara really didn't do anything that the Doctor wouldn't have done. But yeah, an amazing episode.
You nailed Clara's character development perfectly. It really bugs me when people complain that she was never developed. I think what people meant is that they didn't like the direction she went, but it's clear they had a plan for her and executed that plan. Clara's character arc was to try to become the Doctor, and in the end, it's what did her in. It's interesting that you brought up Mummy on the Orient Express, because what Clara did in taking the Quantum Lock was almost the EXACT IDENTICAL stunt that the Doctor pulled in Mummy. putting himself in the line of fire to save everyone else and win. Only the Doctor knows the rules of each situation better than Clara. Another episode that I'm reminded of was Day of the Doctor... when Clara almost falls out of the TARDIS but is thrilled rather than scared... that was basically the opening to DotD with the Doctor. Other key frames of her arc: Being put in charge of the troops in Nightmare in Silver, choosing to enter the Doctor's timestream in Name of the Doctor even though it most likely meant sacrificing herself, being sent on her own to figure out how to "do a clever thing" to reboot Rusty's memories in Into the Dalek, taking charge against the Sherriff in Robot of Sherwood while the Doctor was too busy bickering with Robin Hood, pretending to be the Doctor in Flatline (with the Doctor coaching from inside the TARDIS), the credits gag in Death in Heaven, and her continued training under Missy as "The Magician's Apprentice" and "the Witch's Familiar"... It was a bold choice to go somewhere new with a companion's character arc, and a lot of people didn't like it. But don't say that there was no character development!
One of my all time favourite lines ever: "The Doctor is no longer here, you are stuck with me!!" Just such an amazing script with lots of amazing dialogue. And it´s fun to theorize what that line means. Maybe foreshadowing some darker times? It´s so interesting, because it leaves room for interpretation...
Loved your reactions and your thoughts on our hero's misadventure in Trap Street, and particularly on Clara. The final scene's dialogue between Clara and the Doctor was heart-breakingly moving and beautifully acted by the leading pair. I do feel that Clara's character in season 9 subtly carried the trauma and damage from the loss of Danny Pink and it made sense to me that her risk-taking and thrill-seeking were signs of an instability at heart. On facing her own demise she even muses that "Maybe this is what I've wanted". However, her bravery at the end, is equally noble and tragic; an incredible performance from Jenna Coleman I also love the fact that its completely wide-open as to where the Doctor will be next ....the after-effects of all this will indeed be interesting!
His hearts just shatter into a million pieces 😭😭 that's what makes the whole thing so heartbreaking for us 😢 their attachment to each other helps us attach ourselves to the both of them and that's what makes that entire "goodbye doctor I'm gonna go die now" scene so heart-wrenching 🥺
This episode broke my heart. I sobbed for so long after. It took me hours to compose myself. Clara is my favourite companion and this was so hard to take 😭 rewatching never gets any easier.
chooch99 Heaven Sent is a Masterpiece But Hell Bent after it; not so much. I won't say it's the worst ep of DW ever like a lot of whovians because there are some way more painful to watch for me but ...
@@paindepices4939 Hell Bent is fantastic, and if it had aired before Heaven Sent, it would be considered one of the absolutely top episodes of Doctor Who.
Yeah I never warmed to the weird jumper or the pyjamas he wore quite a lot....This is so much cooler. And the black similar jacket he wore in Series 10.
To me, the only bad variants of the costume were the S9 opener look, Girl Who Died look, and this episode's pre-titles look. All the rest, even the other S9 hoodie variants, still look good.
You don't need to love Clara to appreciate her. You just need to understand how much she means to the Doctor to respect her. She sacrified herself many times just to save him, while she didn't even know him that much at that time.
I loved Clara and sure there were some times i wasn't to fond of her, which makes her as a character very human and real, in the end i think back on her wisdom and intelligence and even her witty humor which was cute and funny!
Vault Boy - I loved Clara too. My favourite companion in NuWho, brilliantly played by Jenna Coleman who never went to acting school, unlike most young performers here in the UK. Most recently she's been filming in towns and cities close to me (and I don't mean Ashildr).
Curious production side note, they do not shoot the series in order. The previous episode, Sleep No More, was actually shot after this episode. So Jenna was still with them for a while after she'd shot Clara's death scene. One of those weird quirks that happens on set. As for this episode, this kickstarts what is for me one of my favorite three episode runs of the entire NuWho, second only perhaps to series four's Silence in the Library, Forest of the Dead, and Midnight. It has its detractors, and I know I'm in the minority, but I absolutely love where the rest of the series goes. It's completely character-based storytelling, and I love it.
That often happens - for example the last scene between Billie Piper and David Tennant in Series 2 was the scene at the end of "The Satan Pit" when the Doctor calls them 'the stuff of legends' - quite an awesome note to end on for the actors!
Also David Tennants last scene as the Doctor was with Wilf up in space with the cactuses when he said he’d be proud if he was his father. Right in the feels
I agree! This episode broke my heart. So beautiful, fulfilled Clara's character arc beautifully. Those parting words between the Doctor and Clara is so emotional, and then Clara's "let me be brave" with the music, and facing the raven. It hurts my heart. Looking forward to your reaction to the next episode Heaven Sent, one of my favourite for Capaldi, honestly, and so unique!
Looking back, there is a scene that has stuck with me. And that is in "Kill the Moon," when Twelve explicitly said that he believed that Clara would always make the wise decision. I think that that sealed Clara's fate right there.
The twelve Doctor acts very rough but on the inside he truly needed Clara. The pure disbelief on his face when she accepted her death, just seeing his world shatter.
The way Clara is able to change the Doctor from boiling rage angry to calm and listening with only a few words really speaks to how well she knows him. Their relationship went beyond companion or even friend. She knew him and understood who he truly was in a way that I think very few others every could. Clara knew after she died his rage would return and that’s why she gave him the advice she did. She wasn’t worried about her life ending, she was worried about him being alone with the grief.
For me you nailed it at the end by recognizing the growth of their relationship from deep breath to Clara's death. Clara was my favorite companion , well after Wilfred of course. So this was very sad for me. Thank you for the reaction stay on the roller coaster ride....
No it doesn't but I have thought out a number of get-outs that mean Clara didn't have to die then. The trouble is 'Me' is lacking any nobility and is a selfish, self-important madam. Death by plot device. It gets them all in the end :-)
I also want to say how much i love your videos (if you happen to ever see this) i used to watch doctor who with my gf, she sadly passed away a year and a half ago and she loved doctor who and when i watch your videos it helps me deal with her not being here anymore when i watch doctor who, so thank you for your videos, they are so apprecaited!
Still sent a chill of fear down my back when Capaldi said "The Doctor is no longer here, you are stuck with me with me!", even after watching this one so many times. *clears throat* and might have needed kleenex at the end. The next one though...what an episode, one of Capaldi's best performances.
I'm SO jealous that you have not seen the next episode :P seriously, what I wouldn't give to see Heaven Sent for the first time again.. but it's one that just gets better and better with repeated viewings so I'm veeery excited!!
Ann Zheng Jess said it a few weeks ago. Clara's demise has been signposted all through the series but of course noted that Clara couldn't just stop it would have to be something dramatic for her to. Couldn't help but smile after she said that..
Kevin O'Grady i was mad when i saw this (except for mad capaldi at the end) cause i thought it was really weak for a companion, but thatnks to the last ep im okay with it, great goodbye.
She didn't come across as weak whatsoever, everything she did in this episode was heading off the issue and looking for a solution while remaining level headed, that is not weak its in fact remarkable and she handled the end like a champ!
Amy and Rory went back in time and lived a happy and fulfilling life well into their old age. They even adopted a son. That negates any sadness for me (as well as proving how stupid their argument in Asylum of the Daleks was).
Kevin O'Grady if Clara would have been this way from the start, minus the Danny Pink plotline, it would have been extremely effective. It thought Clara was great in season 9, as an actual character, not a jane doe, or plot point.
Clara was the companion who was closest to being an equal to the doctor. She emulated and began to rise to attempt to be the doctor in her own way. It's not the first time, but she is human and miscalculated this time. I loved Clara, not as much as the ponds, but my favorite next to them. The next episode is probably Peter's best. No spoilers.
Listen, without giving any spoilers, I want you to know, that of the four reactors I follow, three of them have lost footage to the next episode. It's cursed. It's the best episode of the lot, and it keeps vanishing into the black hole of wherever files go. Please take precautions when filming your reaction to episode eleven.
I like how her pose echoed that of the regeneration pose. And "remember 82" refers to Adric's death in 1982, the first time a proper companion was killed off
Your analyses are always so thoughtful and articulate. I appreciate you taking the time to really sit with it and mull it over. Clara is personally my favorite companion and I feel you did right by her character even if we didn’t agree on every bullet point. Enjoy the next two episodes. They’re gonna be a whopper.
One of the most powerful death scenes in Doctor Who. Because, while there have been a lot of tragic departures, when Clara dies, it hurts. It's not off-camera, it's not stoic, it's not a gentle slipping into the night - she dies, and it hurts, and she screams. It's brutal.
As much as "Face the Raven" is a terribly sad episode, and as a result not an episode I seek out unless I'm doing a full series rewatch, it is absolutely brilliant. Watching Sesska's reaction, I actually noticed another neat little detail I hadn't picked up on before - Clara takes the Chronolock from Rigsy to ensure he can go home to his daughter, and the Doctor willingly walks into the trap with the TARDIS key to reunite Anah and Anahson - it's another neat little parallel showing how alike Clara and the Doctor are.
Next week is a good one, I’m looking forward to your reaction! The one after is divisive, but with the lens you’re looking at the show with, I think you’re going to enjoy it.
No one talks about the saddest line "I was lost a long time ago she was saving you." That line hurts bc Clara's dying wish was to make sure the Doctors soul had a chance 🥺🥺🥺
Interesting comment about the phrase "Face the Raven" as a metaphor for death at 24:37. Peter Capaldi was in a show called "The Crow Road" in the mid '90s (based on Iain Banks' book), and that title was another, very similar term for death.
I keep on loving these reactions. The thoughtful approach is just great and very insightful. The final two episodes are, in my estimation, exceedingly good, and the acting quite amazing. Keep up the good work and enjoy!
If my math is correct, when series 11 starts she will be roughly three or so episodes behind us. Assuming series 11 starts in the first week of October.
+Elder Wraith Probably the special first. In the reaction to Last Christmas she said she was watching that before the review because people had suggested she should. Why did they suggest that? Because the dream scenes with Danny and Clara make it a nice epilogue to series 8. Without giving away any spoilers, the 2017 Christmas special is similarly tied to series 10 so she'll likely watch that before the review. On the other hand, the 2015 special is almost completely unrelated to aeries 9 despite airing just 20 days after it, so the review will probably come first.
“The Doctor is no longer here, you’re stuck with me”
-That’s one of my favourite lines ever.
Gilanes it's FUCKING badass!!!!!
There's a story in classic Who, where the 6th Doctor is put on trial by someone called " the Valeyard", who was an evil version of the Doctor from "somewhere between his 12th and final regeneration".
I can't help but wonder who the Doctor was referring to in that line. The warrior who fought in the Time War or the Valeyard, and, for the first time, I can see how that last one could come into existence.
That line is terrifying and I love it!
It's one of my faves too but also hilarious because everytime he says that I'm like "Yeah. You are stuck with me. Me as in Ashildr since that's what she calls herself. LOL"
Gilanes the Doctor can't come to the phone right now. Why? Because he's dead 😂
I always liked it when Capaldi started getting angry. Always makes the hairs on my neck stand up.
Capaldi was definitely one of the best at showing the Doctor's dark side. Him, McCoy, and Tennant are probably the ones that got the darkest.
SweenyTodd98 McCoy in particular, especially in Curse Of Fenric
So, you'll love 'The Thick Of It' then ? ruclips.net/video/cIPxLzfw6wU/видео.html
celt67 Well I like him angry as the Doctor, not just him angry in general
SweenyTodd98 Funny that all of them are Scottish Doctors
I love Clara because she is the one companion who knows the doctor. His personality, his history, river, Amy, his family, the war doctor, 10, 11, 12. His relationship with the daleks, the master, the patanoster gang, and all of the classic doctors. Ever other companion knows THEIR doctor. She knows THE doctor. Only her and river do.
I think that’s why a lot of people dislike her. They think she got too important or too spoiled. I loved her and always thought she was brilliant.
she doesn't know who amy is
@@BooneBluemel "Who's Amelia?'
"The first face this face saw."
By knows Amy, I just meant she knew off Amy.
@@Twiska she asks again in Deep Breath
“I feel like we might get some really good acting out of Peter in the next couple of episodes.”
Oh, you have NO idea!
Understatement of the century!
Only Peter is good enough for what comes next, he may not be every bodies fav but he is the best actor to ever play the character.
Aidan Vickery I agree. Peter may not be the best Doctor in my eyes, but he is certainly one of the best actors to play the Doctor. And no other actor could have pulled off ‘Heaven Sent’ in the way he did. Without spoiling it for Jess, he is nothing short of outstanding in that episode.
This is what I like about her reactions. She is smart and very prescient about what will happen next. Even her comments about how Clara's arc ends and how Doctory Clara can be.. very prescient.
*nods*
I know Clara was never the most popular of companions, but for me, she was Capaldi's best companion and one of the best companions of Modern Who. I will admit, when she was properly introduced in 'The Bells of Saint John', she was didn't have that much of a personality, but from 'The Name of the Doctor' to 'Last Christmas' she started to slowly improve even if I had some problems (her relationship with Danny and the constant lying). However, it was this series that finally made me connect with Clara, and the close bond and devotion she shared with 12 was very heartfelt. In fact, for me, it felt reminiscent of the legendary dynamic between Tom Baker and Elizabeth Sladen. Jenna Coleman was brilliant throughout and her death in this episode was beautifully portrayed with great impact. 'Face the Raven' was a great episode, but the next one's a killer. It's one hell of a bird!
I dont know why she wasnt liked. I love Amy and Rory but If I met Amy in real life I would find her annoying. In the begining she was scared and didnt really take chances and looked for the doctor for help all the time. Towards the end she was better. Clara on the other hand was always the one to jump and go head on with the doctor. I mean she was hanging out the tardis and laughing. If that happens to Amy she would have screamed. Clara and Bill are my fav companions.
Ryan Pollard I adored Peter and Clara's relationship. They felt so real to me, from the lying to each other at the start to the deep emotions of now, they both grew so well together 💜
A lot of people call her unlikeable or say she was more important than the Doctor in her episodes without actually thinking about why she was written the way she was and how it was important to her character arc.
Shoopan I can't discuss it more because of where she is at in the story. But it is all completely there for a reason. What is to come as well, such a beautiful set up. Magnificently done in my opinion (I lurk about the opinion though because of scorn 😂😂😂👍)
Ryan Pollard I like clara but I dislike her in this episode because she was to much full of her self
Sounds bad but I really love the doctors dark side, just the idea that he could (if he wanted to) bend the universe to his will but he doesn’t. He’s like the ultimate villain but the ultimate hero at the same time
Michael Betcher true that, I just love that he has so many aspects to his personality
Michael Betcher I believe the valeyard was meant to be between the 12th and last regeneration I may be wrong
Michael Betcher I just love that he has this lingering darkness in him still
ffaristocrat that would be amazing if the doctor had to face his previous evil incarnation
Michael Betcher Michael Jayston isn't too old, he could still play the role today
"Your last painting was so good it saved the world. I can't wait to see what you do next." - The Doctor to Rigsy, Flatline
Yeah...
:'(
... ouch ...
The way Clara says "why can't I be like you?" always breaks my heart.
It is sad,but Clara should know why. She is not a Timelord with backup regeneration lives, she is human. I think when Danny died,she didn’t care though
In a strange way, this episode highlighted both the best quality and the worse quality of Clara. Her big heart, selfless compassion and keen observation were on display. Also shown was her reckless adventurousness, self righteous obstinacy and overconfident cleverness.
And I think that's why she's was a controversial companion, because she did have major flaws. Some of them were severe. In comparison Rose, who was RTD Mary Sue, she was hugely likable and her flaws were being naive and a romantic. Martha Jones was smart with a twinge of lovesick and Donna who was bold and clueless, but these three characters grew. Clara also followed the two other companions that made the show hugely popular. Most of these characters had a smooth storyline.
Clara on the other hand didn't: She had three introductions. She had three personalities. (All played brilliantly, by Jenna) Clara first story arc was overshadowed by the path to the 50th and more about her mystery than building her character. And the solution to that mystery was either clever or contrived.
However, I find that re-watching the Clara storyline within Moffat's over all Doctor story, she is actually one of the most complex characters of the run with one extensive characters growth.
A scene that was filmed but never included in deleted scenes for some reason was, after Clara's death 12 actually picks up her body and carries her inside, resting her on a bed. That's why after her death we see 12 entering the room from another side room rather than outside, then he asks Ashildr not to wipe Rigsys memory so he can take Clara's body and tell her family about her death and give her a proper funeral, unfortunately that dialogue was cut as well. :'(
Unconventional Jack How do you know ?
Hannahpauline Sarah Dollard (the writer of this episode) talked about it on Twitter and there are a couple set photos with Clara in the doctors arms. Also if you watch the episode you’ll see that after Clara’s death, the doctor enters the room from another side room where he had just placed Clara’s body, rather than the exterior street :)
I'm curious, how exactly was Rigsy going to explain her death? Was he going to have to make up some BS cause of death? Cause if there was any hole in his story, he'd be the first murder suspect.
@@kaizoisevil Doctor could maybe help him explain it? Maybe prove it to them somehow.
Capaldi can convey so much with so little , what a brilliant actor he is .
From "The Girl Who Died"
"Look at you. Your eyes. Your 'never giving up'. Your anger. Your kindness. One day, the memory of that will hurt so much I won't be able to breathe."
I'm just gonna sit here and not breath for a while ;-;
okay, that hurts. why would you do something like this 🥺
lmao I know this comment is 2 years old but whatever
Next week is my favourite of Capaldis run!!
And then my least favourite.
I think the series 10 finale just about beats it.
Hell Bent is much better than people think. It's just not what people expected. Once you accept that and look at the story we got without constantly comparing it to the one we didn't... it's quite a beaufitul and moving story.
Przemysław Zańko, I think the story is ok, not as bad as everyone says, but I wouldn't call it good on any stretch. For me, it's about 5-6/10
Hell Bent really only hated by a few very vocal fans. But most people liked it.
Ashildr/Me says in The Woman Who Lived about Clara, "she'll die on you ya know.... she'll blow away like smoke" and in this episode she literally did die and blow away like smoke (the black smoke coming out her mouth). For me that was some seriously clever foreshadowing
"I think we will get some great acting from Peter"
Never a truer statement said!
One of Capaldi best scene is him just showing pure angry at Me for what happened to Clara
The two saddest things about this for me...
How Clara's main arc has largely been about how she has become more and more like the Doctor himself, right up to this point. But as the Doctor says, he's less breakable than she is. Her death looked like a regeneration, she was like the Doctor even in death, but she doesn't get to live on as he does.
When leaving Bristol in Series 8's Flatline, the last thing the Doctor says to Rigsy is "Your last painting was so good it saved the world. I can't wait to see what you do next". The mural to Clara is the next painting of his we see.
There's something incredibly powerful about this episode, the idea that a companion of the doctor could die from such a simple mistake. Really poignant. There is a tendency in DW to give the companion a happy ending but I think occasionally they should do this sort of thing, remind the audience that traveling with The Doctor is a dangerous life and it can have consequences.
'Happy endings'? There actually haven't been many happy endings in the revived era. Rose's originally ending was getting trapped in a parallel universe (even though she ended up living life with metacrisis). Martha's original ending wasn't happy, but at least it wasn't tragic. Donna got her mind wiped which in my opinion is the saddest. Amy and Rory wasn't too sad as they could still live their life together but still heartbreaking because the Doctor and their family and friends could never see them again. And Clara wasn't even too sad in the end. She's traveling the universe until time needs her to die on trap street. Bill's original ending was really tragic and as far as the Doctor knows she died as a Cyberman. So, I don't really know what you mean with happy endings. Clara actually ends up getting one of the happiest. Bill ends up getting a happy one as well I guess, and Rose 2 series after her original ending. Everyone else is sad :(
There weren't too many in the original era either. Susan was left behind in a Dalek-infested London. Tegan volunteered for the same fate. Adric couldn't apply the brakes. Peri, well who really knows? At least Ian and Barbara made it back. Eventually. And Jamie went all the way back.
@@georgelinford5576 none of those are sad they all were able to live happy lives after...
Scary 12 is always so chilling and I LOVE it
No, but something I love about this. Is really how Clara and the Doctor's traps reflect one another, neither wanted a little girl to grow up without their parent. And that's beautiful and terrible, because Clara really didn't do anything that the Doctor wouldn't have done.
But yeah, an amazing episode.
Joe Astbury their ony difference is that he is less breakable.
Oh neat, someone else noticed this!
You nailed Clara's character development perfectly. It really bugs me when people complain that she was never developed. I think what people meant is that they didn't like the direction she went, but it's clear they had a plan for her and executed that plan. Clara's character arc was to try to become the Doctor, and in the end, it's what did her in.
It's interesting that you brought up Mummy on the Orient Express, because what Clara did in taking the Quantum Lock was almost the EXACT IDENTICAL stunt that the Doctor pulled in Mummy. putting himself in the line of fire to save everyone else and win. Only the Doctor knows the rules of each situation better than Clara.
Another episode that I'm reminded of was Day of the Doctor... when Clara almost falls out of the TARDIS but is thrilled rather than scared... that was basically the opening to DotD with the Doctor.
Other key frames of her arc: Being put in charge of the troops in Nightmare in Silver, choosing to enter the Doctor's timestream in Name of the Doctor even though it most likely meant sacrificing herself, being sent on her own to figure out how to "do a clever thing" to reboot Rusty's memories in Into the Dalek, taking charge against the Sherriff in Robot of Sherwood while the Doctor was too busy bickering with Robin Hood, pretending to be the Doctor in Flatline (with the Doctor coaching from inside the TARDIS), the credits gag in Death in Heaven, and her continued training under Missy as "The Magician's Apprentice" and "the Witch's Familiar"...
It was a bold choice to go somewhere new with a companion's character arc, and a lot of people didn't like it. But don't say that there was no character development!
One of my all time favourite lines ever: "The Doctor is no longer here, you are stuck with me!!" Just such an amazing script with lots of amazing dialogue. And it´s fun to theorize what that line means. Maybe foreshadowing some darker times? It´s so interesting, because it leaves room for interpretation...
Next week we have the best music in the history of Doctor Who.
I love the little nod to Peter Howell's music.
naaaah naaaah naaaah.........nah nah naaaaah so good
And some of the best acting. ;)
*Best episode.
To be precise, the best music with one of the best episodes.
Loved your reactions and your thoughts on our hero's misadventure in Trap Street, and particularly on Clara. The final scene's dialogue between Clara and the Doctor was heart-breakingly moving and beautifully acted by the leading pair.
I do feel that Clara's character in season 9 subtly carried the trauma and damage from the loss of Danny Pink and it made sense to me that her risk-taking and thrill-seeking were signs of an instability at heart. On facing her own demise she even muses that "Maybe this is what I've wanted". However, her bravery at the end, is equally noble and tragic; an incredible performance from Jenna Coleman
I also love the fact that its completely wide-open as to where the Doctor will be next ....the after-effects of all this will indeed be interesting!
His face after Clara says goodbye 😭😭😭💔
His hearts just shatter into a million pieces 😭😭 that's what makes the whole thing so heartbreaking for us 😢 their attachment to each other helps us attach ourselves to the both of them and that's what makes that entire "goodbye doctor I'm gonna go die now" scene so heart-wrenching 🥺
This episode broke my heart. I sobbed for so long after. It took me hours to compose myself. Clara is my favourite companion and this was so hard to take 😭 rewatching never gets any easier.
These next 2 eps are incredible, in fact the very next one was nominated for Bafta awards.
chooch99 Heaven Sent is a Masterpiece
But Hell Bent after it; not so much. I won't say it's the worst ep of DW ever like a lot of whovians because there are some way more painful to watch for me but ...
@@paindepices4939 Hell Bent is fantastic, and if it had aired before Heaven Sent, it would be considered one of the absolutely top episodes of Doctor Who.
Love the Doctor's costume in this, really annoyed how little they ended up using the burgundy coat.
Galactic yo yo Yeah this to me was the most 'Doctory' Capaldi ever looked, such a fantastic costume
Yeah, the black velvet in the next series was never as good.
Yeah I never warmed to the weird jumper or the pyjamas he wore quite a lot....This is so much cooler. And the black similar jacket he wore in Series 10.
To me, the only bad variants of the costume were the S9 opener look, Girl Who Died look, and this episode's pre-titles look. All the rest, even the other S9 hoodie variants, still look good.
Heaven Sent is going to be a ride
How many seconds in eternity.
Personally, I think that's one hell of a bird!
it is. it truely is. tho what comes after. is pure trash
She didn't appreciate it as much as it deserves, though...........
Heaven sent next week ❤ So simple yet so amazing. One of the best if not the best episodes ever in Doctor Who
You don't need to love Clara to appreciate her. You just need to understand how much she means to the Doctor to respect her. She sacrified herself many times just to save him, while she didn't even know him that much at that time.
I loved Clara and sure there were some times i wasn't to fond of her, which makes her as a character very human and real, in the end i think back on her wisdom and intelligence and even her witty humor which was cute and funny!
Vault Boy - I loved Clara too. My favourite companion in NuWho, brilliantly played by Jenna Coleman who never went to acting school, unlike most young performers here in the UK. Most recently she's been filming in towns and cities close to me (and I don't mean Ashildr).
Curious production side note, they do not shoot the series in order. The previous episode, Sleep No More, was actually shot after this episode. So Jenna was still with them for a while after she'd shot Clara's death scene. One of those weird quirks that happens on set.
As for this episode, this kickstarts what is for me one of my favorite three episode runs of the entire NuWho, second only perhaps to series four's Silence in the Library, Forest of the Dead, and Midnight. It has its detractors, and I know I'm in the minority, but I absolutely love where the rest of the series goes. It's completely character-based storytelling, and I love it.
That often happens - for example the last scene between Billie Piper and David Tennant in Series 2 was the scene at the end of "The Satan Pit" when the Doctor calls them 'the stuff of legends' - quite an awesome note to end on for the actors!
ShadowCat Hell Bent has a lot of issues for me.
ShadowCat Hell Bent has a lot of issues for me.
which I'm sure everyone will be discussing when the time comes!
Also David Tennants last scene as the Doctor was with Wilf up in space with the cactuses when he said he’d be proud if he was his father. Right in the feels
I agree! This episode broke my heart. So beautiful, fulfilled Clara's character arc beautifully. Those parting words between the Doctor and Clara is so emotional, and then Clara's "let me be brave" with the music, and facing the raven. It hurts my heart. Looking forward to your reaction to the next episode Heaven Sent, one of my favourite for Capaldi, honestly, and so unique!
Flashback to 15-year-old me crying my eyes out in front of my parents and brother.
R.I.P. Clara, my favourite companion.
I’ve never been more excited for an episode than I am for heaven sent.
"I feel like we might get some really great acting out of Peter in the next couple of episodes" - now there's an understatement!!
Looking back, there is a scene that has stuck with me. And that is in "Kill the Moon," when Twelve explicitly said that he believed that Clara would always make the wise decision. I think that that sealed Clara's fate right there.
This episode was sad, but the next episode is legit ONE OF THE BEST IF NOT THE BEST OF ALL NEW WHO
Aaron Booth the best by far for me.
The twelve Doctor acts very rough but on the inside he truly needed Clara. The pure disbelief on his face when she accepted her death, just seeing his world shatter.
‘We might get some really great acting out of Peter in these next two episodes.’ Oh boy, Jess... You couldn’t be more right!
The way Clara is able to change the Doctor from boiling rage angry to calm and listening with only a few words really speaks to how well she knows him. Their relationship went beyond companion or even friend. She knew him and understood who he truly was in a way that I think very few others every could. Clara knew after she died his rage would return and that’s why she gave him the advice she did. She wasn’t worried about her life ending, she was worried about him being alone with the grief.
For me you nailed it at the end by recognizing the growth of their relationship from deep breath to Clara's death. Clara was my favorite companion , well after Wilfred of course. So this was very sad for me. Thank you for the reaction stay on the roller coaster ride....
HERE WE GO, SOME OF MY FAVORITE EPISODES UP NEXT
I always find the choice to make Clara's final scream 'silent' to be the emotional part.
This never gets easier
No it doesn't but I have thought out a number of get-outs that mean Clara didn't have to die then. The trouble is 'Me' is lacking any nobility and is a selfish, self-important madam. Death by plot device. It gets them all in the end :-)
What about after watching Hell Bent?
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Still sent a chill of fear down my back when Capaldi said "The Doctor is no longer here, you are stuck with me with me!", even after watching this one so many times. *clears throat* and might have needed kleenex at the end. The next one though...what an episode, one of Capaldi's best performances.
She is and always will be the Impossible Girl, she saved all the Doctor's, i liked her from the start.
I'm SO jealous that you have not seen the next episode :P seriously, what I wouldn't give to see Heaven Sent for the first time again.. but it's one that just gets better and better with repeated viewings so I'm veeery excited!!
Ann Zheng Jess said it a few weeks ago. Clara's demise has been signposted all through the series but of course noted that Clara couldn't just stop it would have to be something dramatic for her to. Couldn't help but smile after she said that..
Yes. It is the actress (Letitia Wright) who plays Shuri in 'Black Panther'. Wakanda forever!
The next episode is one of Capaldi's best in my opinion.
This goodbye wasn't as sad as Amy and Rory's for me, but it did give me the feels.
Kevin O'Grady i was mad when i saw this (except for mad capaldi at the end) cause i thought it was really weak for a companion, but thatnks to the last ep im okay with it, great goodbye.
She didn't come across as weak whatsoever, everything she did in this episode was heading off the issue and looking for a solution while remaining level headed, that is not weak its in fact remarkable and she handled the end like a champ!
nonononono. Not her being weak. The way she went out, visually, was weak as balls, it didn't feel like her real last moment (spoilers)
Amy and Rory went back in time and lived a happy and fulfilling life well into their old age. They even adopted a son. That negates any sadness for me (as well as proving how stupid their argument in Asylum of the Daleks was).
Kevin O'Grady if Clara would have been this way from the start, minus the Danny Pink plotline, it would have been extremely effective. It thought Clara was great in season 9, as an actual character, not a jane doe, or plot point.
The first time I watched this episode, my heart broke...
Samfaitchier me too 😢😢😢
Then how are you still alive?? Because thats a life ending situation! lol
I have two hearts 😉
First time I saw it, wanted to quit Doctor Who, sit on a cloud over victorian London and brood a lot...
Clara was the companion who was closest to being an equal to the doctor. She emulated and began to rise to attempt to be the doctor in her own way. It's not the first time, but she is human and miscalculated this time. I loved Clara, not as much as the ponds, but my favorite next to them.
The next episode is probably Peter's best. No spoilers.
11:24 - Yes, that is Shuri (Letitia Wright) from Black Panther.
Oh we definitely get to see the immediate effects of the Doctor's grief this time. I'm so stoked for the next two reactionsss!!!!!!
I absolutely love the next episode coming up. It is one of my all time favs, it is amazing and I hope your first time seeing it is also amazing
Listen, without giving any spoilers, I want you to know, that of the four reactors I follow, three of them have lost footage to the next episode. It's cursed. It's the best episode of the lot, and it keeps vanishing into the black hole of wherever files go. Please take precautions when filming your reaction to episode eleven.
Can’t wait till next week. Favourite episode of all time is heaven sent
The next episode is easily the best episode in Doctor Who from Moffat's time as Showrunner.
First, now onto Heaven Sent!
Brayden Brown One of Moffats finest ever scripts. It's just beautiful and the direction from Rachel T is just pure magic alongside Murray's score :-)
Best freaking episode in all of NuWho.
+Ann Zheng
I'd say that waters of mars is, but ok
Waters of Mars>>>>> Heaven Sent. In EVERY way. Except maybe cinematography.
The viewing public rated it worse than World War Three. :-/
12 and Clara is my favorite doctor and companion relationship.
I loved capaldis savagery. Especially when he was mad with someone.
Personally I think next week will be one hell of a reaction
I see what you did there.
Next time: One of the best episodes ever.
Ohhh man next week's episode is one of the best ever of Doctor Who! Peters acting is phenominal and Rachel Talalay is an absolutely AMAZING director
Both Peter and Rachel are incredible and definitely glad she'll be directing the 60th
"Your reign of terror will end with the sight of the first crying child and you know it"
the doctor is a madman, but he is a kind man.
I like how her pose echoed that of the regeneration pose.
And "remember 82" refers to Adric's death in 1982, the first time a proper companion was killed off
Dawn Gribble Katarina & Sara Kingdom were companions who died prior to Adric.
They weren't proper companions though, they only existed for one or two stories.
It's always heartbreaking to see my impossible girl die. R.I.P Clara, you were the best 😢
Next episode is the very best of modern Who. For me at least.
Your analyses are always so thoughtful and articulate. I appreciate you taking the time to really sit with it and mull it over. Clara is personally my favorite companion and I feel you did right by her character even if we didn’t agree on every bullet point.
Enjoy the next two episodes. They’re gonna be a whopper.
One of the most powerful death scenes in Doctor Who. Because, while there have been a lot of tragic departures, when Clara dies, it hurts. It's not off-camera, it's not stoic, it's not a gentle slipping into the night - she dies, and it hurts, and she screams. It's brutal.
I always lose it at "Stay with me."
Peter Capaldi, excellent for the speeches, and the Scottish accent brilliant for the threats and anger too.
As much as "Face the Raven" is a terribly sad episode, and as a result not an episode I seek out unless I'm doing a full series rewatch, it is absolutely brilliant. Watching Sesska's reaction, I actually noticed another neat little detail I hadn't picked up on before - Clara takes the Chronolock from Rigsy to ensure he can go home to his daughter, and the Doctor willingly walks into the trap with the TARDIS key to reunite Anah and Anahson - it's another neat little parallel showing how alike Clara and the Doctor are.
16:20 " . . . give me a minute, I'll bring the Daleks, and the Cybermen."
I shuddered so hard it hurt my spine.
I love Clara and 12 together, they are such a beautiful duo. 12's face when she touches his face always breaks me
If you haven't seen the next episode yet, sit down, get comfortable and prepare for one hell* of a ride
*Perhaps that should be heaven
it’s almost like he’s losing the very last part of Eleven..
Next week is a good one, I’m looking forward to your reaction!
The one after is divisive, but with the lens you’re looking at the show with, I think you’re going to enjoy it.
We're so close to one of the best episodes ever!
NEXT ONE IS A BANGER!! ITS SOOO GOOOD! Can’t wait until next reaction vid!
EVERYBODY PRAY FOR HEAVEN SENT.... The episode NO ONE seems to get to post their reaction to... =)
"noone else here or anywhere will have to suffer"
"what about me"
so powerful, absolutely kills me
No one talks about the saddest line "I was lost a long time ago she was saving you." That line hurts bc Clara's dying wish was to make sure the Doctors soul had a chance 🥺🥺🥺
Next episode is widely considered the best of Capaldi.
it's widely considered the best of DW in general, though not as widely.
The Doctor Falls is the best of Capaldi for me
My heart is broken... in many pieces. It hurts ...
NOPE. This has taken over as top priority over everything else right now.
Interesting comment about the phrase "Face the Raven" as a metaphor for death at 24:37. Peter Capaldi was in a show called "The Crow Road" in the mid '90s (based on Iain Banks' book), and that title was another, very similar term for death.
"I think we might get some great acting from Peter the next couple of episodes."
Oh, that is an understatement. :)
I am so excited for the next two reactions! You are so Going to 'lose it' when you find out what is going on!
I CANNOT WAIT FOR HEAVEN SENT AHHHH
Tissues at the ready. Definitely one of the saddest episodes. Clara was never my favourite companion but I cried a lot in this episode.
I keep on loving these reactions. The thoughtful approach is just great and very insightful. The final two episodes are, in my estimation, exceedingly good, and the acting quite amazing. Keep up the good work and enjoy!
A good man goes to War. 11th Doctor:They are always brave. Clara:Let me be brave
“That was cool.” -Sesskasays 😜
If my math is correct, when series 11 starts she will be roughly three or so episodes behind us. Assuming series 11 starts in the first week of October.
Elder Wraith ahh. Still she won't be too far behind us.
+Elder Wraith Probably the special first. In the reaction to Last Christmas she said she was watching that before the review because people had suggested she should. Why did they suggest that? Because the dream scenes with Danny and Clara make it a nice epilogue to series 8. Without giving away any spoilers, the 2017 Christmas special is similarly tied to series 10 so she'll likely watch that before the review. On the other hand, the 2015 special is almost completely unrelated to aeries 9 despite airing just 20 days after it, so the review will probably come first.
That episode breaks my heart everytime