Dr Zoe Harcombe - The Obesity Epidemic: What caused it? How can we stop it?
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- The Obesity Epidemic: What caused it? How can we stop it?
Dr Zoe Harcombe
Summary: The Diabetes/Obesity epidemic begins in 1980 three years after the introduction of the low fat dietary advice by the United States Department of Agriculture. In this presentation I present information detailed in my book Obesity, of the factors driving the obesity epidemic in the United Kingdom and globally. Attempts to reverse the obesity epidemic require that the special role of hunger and addictive food choices must be considered. A return to eating of real foods and avoidance of addictive highly processed foods is central to any future attempts to reverse the current obesity epidemic. This requires interventions that go beyond what individual physicians and dieticians can achieve.
www.zoeharcombe.com/za1/
Slide 5 - The Obesity Epidemic in the UK1
ije.oxfordjournals.org/content...
Slide 6 - The Obesity Epidemic in the US2
Slide 7 - What happened c. 19803-6
www.huffingtonpost.com/jonatha...
www.health.gov/dietaryguidelin...
openheart.bmj.com/content/2/1/...
www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInf...
Slide 8 - What happened c. 19806, 7
fit4godonline.com/science/
Slide 9 - Why did we change dietary advice - heart disease?8-11
www.ljemail.org/reference/Refe...
Slide 10 - Why did we change dietary advice - cholesterol logic?12,13
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15...
Slide 11 - Why did we change dietary advice the Seven Countries study?9, 14-17
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/73...
Slide 12 - Were we right to change - RCTs?18-23
www.researchgate.net/publicati...
www.ljemail.org/reference/Refe...
circ.ahajournals.org/content/4...
circ.ahajournals.org/content/4...
www.researchgate.net/publicati...
Slides 13-15 - Were we right to change - RCT evidence?24
openheart.bmj.com/content/2/1/...
Slides 16-19 - Were we right to change - cholesterol & CVD charts?[i]
www.zoeharcombe.com/2010/11/ch...
Slide 20 - What did we change to?[ii]
www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/P...
Slide 21 - What are we now eating?
- 1,556 processed food calories25[iii]
www.zoeharcombe.com/2014/03/wh...
- Flour consumption[iv]
theobesityepidemic.org/TOE-Scr...
- Sugar consumption[v]
www.mah.se/CAPP/Globalsugar/Ri...
- Foods that have gone down and up26
www.esds.ac.uk/government/docs...
discover.ukdataservice.ac.uk/c...
Slides 24-26 - USDA Database[vi]
nutritiondata.self.com/
Slide 28 - Obstacles to change27, 28
www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/w...
Slide 29 - American Dietitians conflicts29
www.eatrightpro.org/resources/...
Slide 30 - British Nutrition Foundation30
www.nutrition.org.uk/attachmen...
Slide 33 - Association for Dietetics in SA31
www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2... 
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Brilliant!!! Every health-care provider on the planet needs to watch this wonderful lecture. Twice!!!
Going up against the big food corporations being protected by the government is probably futile.
4 years ago. Thank goodness it is still (2024) significant today
Low carb, high fat has changed my life!! I have been obese since childhood. I weigh less now than When I was 12 years old. Please keep educating people since it is changing lives. It is so sad that the medical profession is bought by big food and pharma. I am absolutely never going backwards again.
The fact that one cuts back on calories is what enables weight loss. It you want to be healthy eat a well balanced healthy diet free of proceed food, fast food and junk food.
Sunny Skies it is NOT about calories
@@LaraBisserier
Please direct me to the science that proves that statement.
Sunny Skies please direct me to the science that says it is calories!! Not junk science either!! There is no proof of the calories in vs calories out model! The burden is on you to prove it!! Not on me!
@kellysue1972
Calories in Calories out does work. You don't need anyone's diet plan. Just don't eat more than you burn. It's so simple. I choose to follow that advice and I am living proof that it works.
It is really that simple. We have been wrong. I was a whole food vegetarian then vegan, drinking green smoothie, eating all the fruits I thought were good for me. I have been keto/LCHF. I haven’t felt better in my life. I got a flat toe stomach with effort. I do light work out and feel no hangry like I used to. This is soooo good. Thank you.
Zoe is such a phenomenal speaker. She the most phenomenal speaker I ever watched, in my opinion, even better than Dr Robert Lusting which is of course phenomenal in 2nd place.
People have been avoiding fat which means increasing carbs by default.
I agree!!!! My family and I are going back to eating more meat, more fat, more raw milk, fresh and homemade meals. NO MORE CARBS, NO MORE SUGAR, NO MORE VEGETABLE OILS!!! greetings from the philippines.
Refined carbs, oils and junk food is damaging. A carnivore diet too. Excess saturated fats will mess your lipid metabolism, cancer in the long term for obvious reasons (lack of fibre, polyphenols, vitamin C, Magnesium). Eat meat but always eat your veggies and fruits too. Don't follow hypes.
Fibre is consumed by beneficial bacteria in your gut. They make short chain fatty acids with them like butirate that protects from cancer. This is a reason carnivores have more colon cancer.
Beans aren't a problem as carnivores say. Lectins go away with cooking. Fruits aren't a problem either. Sugars together with fibre aren't making people fat. Nobody eats them.
When it comes to dismantling dietary myths, which become an impediment to people adopting low carb, I always refer those reluctant people to Dr. Harcombe's excellent lectures. Her talks are by far some of the most accessible and comprehensive presentations to persuade people that, whatever mental road blocks they have about adopting a high fat animal based diet, are based on fiction.
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Thank God for people like Zoë Harcombe!
you're welcome
Zoe at her very best.
thanks so much Zoe you have done the UK a great service and she should be Knighted for your services to education and Nutrition. so much the World can actually learn and we are not going to be dominated by multi nationals !
This is so beautiful, thank you so much! Do you know what is in my head now? The policy makers. "The population is too much to feed with meat. Meat is expensive in water and land, we lack both. What do we do?" "Well, let's convince idiots to eat carbohydrates, we can eat even more and the population will go down naturally, Darwin's way." "Yeah, but when they find out?" "Deny, deny, deny. Anyways, we won't be the policy makers by then."
Thank you! The SAD (Standard American Diet) diet followed by my country has created a SAD life for millions.
The SAD diet has nothing to do with the food pyramid or my plate. It is a diet of processed food, junk food and fast food. It is high in fat, sugar and protein. No one has ever recommended a SAD diet. If people would wise up and stop eating all that junk it would go away.
@kellysue1972
No it is not. Processed food, junk food and fast food is the SAD diet.
Thank you, thank you, thank you ... Zoe and Tim! Your contributions are precious, treasured, and so much "good food"! :)
Latitude and cholesterol-what a brilliant point! Diet is very important, but nobody ever mentions the estrogenic chemicals that cause insulin resistance, which then alters our appetite hormones and causes insulin resistance. This is particularly a problem with fetus exposure. Estrogenic chemical exposure is widespread, and they include bisphenol A, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, birth control hormones, Roundup andother organophophates, carbamates, solvents and more. If we keep talking about diet, without addressing the root cause of obesity, we're missing the boat.
... found in laundry detergents, in foods and beverages transferred from plastic containers, solvent residue in seed oils and shortenings (cleverly but deceptively marketed as 'vegetable' oils and shortenings) and margarines, and...
Thanks for streaming this.
Wonderful conference. The whole speaking staff is phenomenal. Thank you Dr Noakes.
Dr Zoe is always amazing to listen to. 👏👏👏 Thank you for posting these talks.
can't help but notice what good shape Dr. Zoe is in. I'm going to eat what she is eating!
Preferably at the same table at the same time? I have her number, you want an introduction? Just kidding. I totally agree. Watch her talk on fibre and she spills the beans (excuse the pun) on how awesome is the body of a guy (shawn Baker) who eats no fibre whatsoever.
It's not what she is eating it's what she is not eating. She is not eating excess calories. Wake up people. As far as weight goes it's calories in calories out, it always has been and always will be.
@@sunshine87654 Obviously you haven't listened to what Zoe has to say about that. It's not a functional model on which to base weight loss.
@@TheCompleteGuitarist
Calories in calories out is different for everyone because everyone's metabolism is different. But as individuals we need to consume only what we need to maintain a healthy body weight, anything more than that will cause weight gain.
@@sunshine87654 She discuss the ´calorie theory´ here. Good luck telling her she´s wrong.
ruclips.net/video/9-PhPsJPzsI/видео.html
Absolutely AWESOME VID. Thank you.
This is the first time I have come across Dr Zoe Harcombe ans I am so glad I have. Thank-you kindly for posting this great information :)
It's not just the the fast food outlet workers that will be unemployed. What about the Doctors, nurses, health food professionals etc. that will no longer be required. 🤓
sarscov2
Brilliant. Thank you Dr Zoe.
Thank goodness for RUclips!
Great talk, well articulated
Fantastic! Thank you for sharing!!
excellent presentation...
Wonderful. Thank you so much 🙏
Farming practices are the biggest obstacle I'm facing. It's nearly impossible to get pasture raised beef or eggs here. Except for that very last part where the animal dies, PETA and those vegetarians who object on moral grounds have good reason to team up with the LCHF community.
Absolutely brilliant!!
This was a mind blowing 💥 lecture of powerful enlightening ⚡️topic!!! Woke! 💡 Thank you 🙏
Excellent presentation!
Ahhh the blessed Dr Zoe Harcombe.
This awesome lady is my hero!
Love Zoe!!!
Absolutely brilliant. And just look at those biceps!!!
Thank you Ancel keys
Thank you.
The junk food people could work in the livestock raising. It needs to be done in a small scale
(by industrial standards), because it need the eye (and the other senses) of an owner.
A point to consider is how easily most people are controlled - or brained washed. Most of my friends and colleagues think I'm losing it when I tell them more animal derived fat will lower our chances of heart disease and all the rest of modern epidemic level diseases. I have found that a more ancestral type diet with mostly animal derived foods, high in natural fat, has been transformative in many ways. Without wishing to be controversial, I think our way of eating raises consciousness and allows us to see things more for the way they really are. The lies on the mainstream media and the various controlling agendas seem so obvious now. We have to recognise the evil in the world is a Globalist driven agenda.
Dr. Barry Groves addresses the issue of 'What We Are Designed to Eat' ruclips.net/video/qn5zdWucv6I/видео.html It makes sense that if we are eating what our species is designed to eat, we will be healthier and our brains will function better.
This video consistently stalls at 10:50. After a few minutes, the app loses connection. I'm not having this issue with any other videos.
Wonder if high cholesterol begets senility. Pulmonologists urge patients to get plenty of sleep, to help prevent MI. No doubt some patients still take 1 baby aspirin per day, despite warnings of cranial bleeding. Stevia seems to be an accepted sweetener. Sleep and exercise (biking, long walks) seem to help the body function well.
I think the "Gary" she occasionally refers to is Gary Taubes (sp?). Can anyone confirm this?
Gary Fettke also spoke at this conference and has a video from this channel. ruclips.net/video/VVjNqbaiSiY/видео.html
Yup, she refers to Gary Tarbes.
I agree with Dr. Harcombe. THUMBS UP, PLEASE.
WE ARE CARNIVORES!
Dr. Barry Groves on 'Homo Carnivorous: What We Are Designed to Eat' ruclips.net/video/qhnYEkS-0PE/видео.html
Dr. Michael Eades, 'Paleopathology and the Origins of the Paleo Diet' ruclips.net/video/VSRDfkt-wJY/видео.html
Dr. Stephen Phinney, MD, PhD 'The Case for Nutritional Ketosis' ruclips.net/video/_evJd_iZZzs/видео.html
400kg is almost 63 stone in English. Hard to believe, poor girl.
Indeed, well she can't get out of bed to feed herself, so perhaps her 'carers' should be investigated for abuse?
400 kg is 880 pounds. Andre The Giant weighed around 550 at his heaviest I think. Holy shit, whoever cares for her should be charged with abuse.
no, it's 400kg in english. stones are american
Stones are definitely not used as a unit of measurement in the US, nor, to my knowledge, Canada. They're an old British unit.
I remember when I was a child (the 60's) my mother fed me a lot of Liver, Kidneys and brains. I loved kidneys and brains, but wasn't totally fond of Liver. How does Kidnay and Brains stack up next to liver?
Jeff H great foods, should still be on the menu.
@@Srieire the local supermarkets don't sell organ meat anymore. I was told they sell it for dog food 😕 I guess the trend is to eat the most expensive cut niw
Good, going back to my steak !!! Thank you Dr. Harcombe, that was informative. I like to see the speakers look healthy too!
Is this video getting throttled? Everytime I try to listen to it it just shows loading after a few seconds. Doesn't happen with other vids
Was able to fast forward passed passed the 11:40 mark and resume play
I'm still getting the spinning circle several times. sometimes fast forwarding helps
37:50 - 38:25 We've over farmed the planet. We need to let the animals eat the plants and then we eat the animals.
So I am trying to understand, the carbs are the enemy and the fats and proteins are fine? Does this also mean that the trans and saturated fats are not really causing weight gain? Because if so, I feel obligated to try reducing carbs. I've never worried about cholesterol at all so if what you're saying is accurate, this would also imply that I could eat eggs as much as I want without a single problem.
Yes you are correct, look up. Nina Teicholz - vegetable oils the untold story 30 mins long very good ⭐
There are natural and unnatural trans fats. I'm not sure if there is evidence natural trans fats are bad. Unnatural trans fats are bad, but they mostly come from processed foods and any food with hardened veggy/seed oils (which unfortunately is also most food from restaurants).
We can't sell this diet so TV stations are the last ones to help us out.
Dr. Jack Kruse would be pleased.
7:10 1 in 4 = 25%, not 40% (1/2.5). Slip of the tongue, no doubt.
Excellent information.
I was a girl in the 1960s we ate tons of sugar in daily puddings, cake and biscuits and everyone added it to their tea. My love of boiled sweets rotted my teeth but we were all skinny - underweight by the charts. We were more active so I guess we burned it off. But just sugars did not cause obesity. It looks to me that it's seed oils that were the real change and cause. Those carbs came mixed with butter not marge and we didn't have the savoury junk foods that rely on seed oils.
it's low protein, sugar plus fat that does it
Sue Harrison>> You have it pretty much right. Obesity, heart disease, diabetes and many other degenerative diseases are being caused by a combination of processed and refined carbohydrates in addition to the wrong types of fats. And yes, it's seed oils that are the main culprit as far as these bad fats are concerned.
Sue, you might have felt like you ate a lot of sugar, but I'll bet you weren't drinking the volume of soda that many people do today. You might have 5 grams of sugar in a cup of tea, but ten times that in a modern soda. Because high fructose corn sweetener is so cheap today, portion sizes of candies and soft drinks have grown enormously compared to the 60's, when expensive cane sugar was used.
@@incognitotorpedo42
I think Sue's point was that eating sugar does not cause obesity but that overeating of anything and sedentary lifestyle causes obesity.
@@sunshine87654 But that's objectively not the case. "A Calorie is a Calorie" is only true in calorimeters, not living organisms. Admittedly, a lot of highly educated people are confused about that, but it's true.
1:14 "comes from Wales"😂😅
There's a point made early on that consumption of cholesterol has little to no effect on serum cholesterol. Can I ask this question. I am open to sincere answers. Dave Feldman has done extensive tests and has found that high consumption of Saturated Fat as in Keto and Carnivore diets does indeed raise cholesterol levels.
Am I missing something here? I know that saturated fat is not cholesterol, but is it really possible to disassociate the consumption of fat with the consumption of cholesterol?
One would have to ask who is funding Dave Feldman's tests? Aside from that, blood cholesterol levels have been found to have very little consequence to health.
Ivor Cummins - on cholesterol and the root cause of heart attacks ruclips.net/video/emsMIlXJu9I/видео.html
Nina Tiecholtz is an investigative journalist and former vegetarian. She deeply researched the history of concerns about fat, cholesterol, and heart disease: ruclips.net/video/hzQAHITIUhg/видео.html
even on low fat diet my body makes cholesterol.. it doesnt matter what i eat.. besides which cholesterol is needed to make hormones and such
I hope you have found the answer to this since you posted this, that it's the LDL that tends to increase on LCHF and also it doesn't matter. You want high HDL and low triglycerides, those are the numbers that matter. Not total and not LDL.
8:12 - "We want to do everything faster, more efficiently, cheaper. You can do that with many, many things. You can do that with the upholstery of your car..." I question whether the upholstery and carpeting in automobiles today are better than they used to be. They are only cheaper because we have allowed corporations to pass along the cost of ecological damage and pollution of our air, waterways, and our bodies to us. If fossil fuel, petro-chemical, and auto manufacturers had to produce the upholstery and interior of cars WITHOUT contaminating the air we breathe, the water we drink and used to get healthy fish from, and without contaminating US, the synthetic fiber upholstery, carpeting, foam cushions, and vinyl would NOT BE CHEAPER than the natural and renewable materials they used to be made from.
Leather upholstery is pretty nice, and is the by-product of eating. Fabric upholstery in automobiles, and also buses and trains, used to be made from mohair, shorn from Angora goats. Mohair upholstery is totally renewable, and shearing it helps the animals to feel cooler in the summer, while they are controlling weeds in pastures and other areas, which they thrive on. Managed grazing by goats is the most effective way to control most 'weeds' and brush, including kudzu.
Mohair makes tough and attractive upholstery and carpets. It is NATURALLY FLAME RESISTANT, like sheep wool and alpaca fiber. This is important, since the PFAS chemicals used as flame retardants are highly toxic - and ineffective as flame retardants. PFAS chemicals do not break down in the environment, and are toxic to a wide range of species.
Even without PFAS chemicals, the fabric upholstery, carpets, and the rest of the interior of today's automobiles is made of synthetic chemicals. The vinyl and synthetic fabric and carpet are ecological disasters from the sourcing of the fossil-fuel raw materials, through manufacture, and disposal. If/when burned, they release toxins into the air that persist.
Worse yet, these man-made materials give off toxins during normal use - chemicals that transfer into your body through the air, and through touching them. For most of these materials, this outgassing and contact transfer of harmful chemicals continues as long as the substance exists.
The best we can do, at least until we get the money to have a custom interior built in our cars made of wool cushions, mohair carpets, leather dashboards and trim, and mohair upholstery... is to air the car out as much as we can.
Bamboo is supposed to be a very good, hard wearing natural fibre(though mono crops are always a problem with plant based fabrics).
Excellent points.
Say something to convince me that there is not a eugenics program in progress. Please.
Eugenics is the science of trying to breed better specimens of a species. "Eu" means beautiful. What is going on now would seem to be a dysgenics program, as humans are certainly not being made stronger, healthier, or more beautiful by it.
Brilliant lecture - even more important in the covid year that we have had that has highlighted the at risk groups . If only you could get this into no 10 - I fear that Boris is going to go down the 'eat less move more ' route , plus veggie and vegan is fashionable again ( I have been a semi vegetarian for 40 years but it was making me sick so I cut down on the grains and started to eat oily fish after reading ' The Zone ' . How shameful was it , that it was a celebrity chef ( Jamie Oliver ) who ran a campaign to get a far at least out of kid's food ! Where were the medics and public health . Talking about paediatrics is there any good science yet to show that children are being born with insulin resistance - after 2 generations of high carb / vegetable oil consumption . Children can after all be born with addictions I f their mothers were addicted to drink or drugs ?????
What does the R and R^2 mean?
blog.minitab.com/blog/adventures-in-statistics-2/regression-analysis-how-do-i-interpret-r-squared-and-assess-the-goodness-of-fit
One mans arrogant ego(narcissist). Created all this misery
But what about cancer? Vegans claim that eating meat causes increased rates of cancer, including some big ones such as bowel cancer. I'd appreciate comments on this as a vegetarian who now can't decide what I should be eating. Thanks for a very thought provoking presentation. (Also, I am not overweight so don't need to cut down carbs for that reason)
I have been a vegetarian for over thirty years but did eat a high carb diet, ie. wholemeal bread and cereals. After following Dr Fung , Dr Sten Ekberg and Dr Harcombe on a keto/low carb diet, I have never felt better. I am 70 and fit as a fiddle. I eat salad, vegetables, cheese, avocado and nuts. I still do not eat meat.
In a big fan of Jason Fung.
Also Ivor Cummins, The Fat Emperor. Insulin Resistance seems to be a key factor in many chronic diseases.
@@TheHerbdude I do so wish these enlightened scientists /doctors/nutritionists could be more widely acknowledged by the medical profession and dietitians.
Refined vegetable/seed oils (e.g. soybean, sunflower, cottonseed, canola, corn oil etc.) high in inflammatory omega 6 fatty acids have now been linked to cell damage, cancer and are a factor in metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes and heart disease (the bigger factor there being excess fructose consumption). It is processed foods (especially those with trans-fats!) you need to look out for (and this includes processed vegetarian/vegan meat alternatives!), not grassfed red meats. There is actually something to say against chicken, as it has relatively high levels of omega 6 (albeit unprocessed). The studies that correlated red meat to increased risk in bowel cancer showed a very weak positive correlation, but not causation. It is very likely that people with an overall bad diet (say high in sugar and processed food and by extension seed oils) also eat more red meat, than your average person who is into whole foods. Also, the IARC which made the classification of probable carcinogen for red meat, based on those studies, was heavily biased towards vegetarianism.
I second watching some of Ivor Cummins presentations. He is an independent researcher and explains and scientifically proves the mechanisms behind chronic diseases.
Heather,
Please watch some excellent presentations by Dr. Georgia Ede, Dr Alex Petrushevski, Dr. Ken Berry, and Nina Teicholz which can be found on RUclips (I cite a few below). All of them go in depth on many studies, that plant based advocates cite to establish their case that meat causes cancer. Ultimately, the notion that there is a strong causal link between meat and cancer is based on weak epidemiological studies, which have a host of methodological problems which are every bit as problematic as the ones that Dr. Harcombe cites here, with regards to saturated fat and heart disease. Secondly, many of these studies, as Dr. Georgia Ede, Dr Alex Petrushevski, Dr. Ken Berry, and Nina Teichelz points out, use deceptive statistical manipulation to make the cancer morbidity and mortality rates of meat eaters vs plant eaters look far more significant than they really are.
Dr. Georgia Ede:
ruclips.net/video/xDgzgDSInt0/видео.html
Dr. Alex Petrushevski:
ruclips.net/video/Up__RB_rgRM/видео.html
Dr. Ken Berry:
ruclips.net/video/Qwyjo-NgQsE/видео.html
Nina Teicholz
ruclips.net/video/1rz-8H_i1wA/видео.html
It should also be noted that low carb is now being acknowledged by many physicians and researchers as a powerful adjunct to conventional cancer therapies. Far from causing cancer, high fat/low carb diets are being used to mitigate cancer. Here a few presentations concerning that below:
Dr. Colin Champ:
ruclips.net/video/gm8RSDpv_Jg/видео.html
Dr. Eugene Fine:
ruclips.net/video/xawBF1TAXek/видео.html
Dr. Dominic D'Agostino:
ruclips.net/video/3fM9o72ykww/видео.html
Dr. Thomas Seyfried:
ruclips.net/video/SEE-oU8_NSU/видео.html
I hope that clears up some confusion that many vegan ideologues are peddling.
Is it an inconvenient fact that women started to work fulltime instead of doing home-cooking.
Industrial food took of when no one had time for home cooking anymore.
Thr obesity curves started up before the guidlines took effect. So, something else happened before that.
It might be that the media did their thing before the guidelines took effect. It's very likely that the guidelines just cemented what was spread as fact by media. It surely weren't based on actual science.
So look for what came before the guidelines and became the input used to formulate them.
Thought at first Dr Harcombe was Twiggy talking about herself. Carnivorous eating keeps us looking young and healthy as is obvious!
Her husband eats raw liver does he? With fava beans and a nice cianti?
Is that you, Clarice?
@Aqua man - Vegetarians and vegans trying to get protein from peas and soybeans, and beans are emitting methane - and trying to blame it on the cows.
But not deer, bison, caribou, llamas, goats, alpacas, sheep, goats, reindeer, elk, musk ox, yaks, camels, giraffes, wildebeast, water buffalo, antelopes of various species... which are all ruminant herbivores, like cattle?
Then again, humans have blamed animals for damaging the very ecosystems that they are an integral part of.
And there are anti-nutrients and toxins in beans, too.
You've got to like Dr Zoe Harcombe.
I agree what we are told to eat now is completely wrong. I keep being told to eat more fibre which means lots more grains, These are used by the body as sugars. I am now eating a KETO diet which is more meat and veg but very little carbohydrates and sugars. It is much healthier and better for humans. We used to eat like this in the 1960s etc.
Interesting... when I think of fiber, I think of fresh fruit and veg, not refined grains.
can't help but notice how trustworthy these scienceses are and how useful for the global manipulation/genocidal effort they have proven to be.
Coronary heart disease could correlate with latitude because of indoor air pollution. People use indoor combustion appliances more at higher latitude and keep their windows closed more than those in warmer climates. Nitrogen dioxide, carbon monoxide and particulates could cause heart disease.
the fuck is "Shuckroze".....?
WHY 70 years later are doctors still going on about cholesterol?????
Great question. I've met many PCP MDs of internal medicine who don't question their orthodoxy. One of them finally admitted that the USDA's nutritional guidelines are standard of care so they cannot go outside those recommendations. Sounds painful, doesn't it?
High LDL and high triglycerides are markers for certain chronic conditions. It would be idiotic to ignore these. The problem we have is the public and the medical community are conditioned to treat symptoms rather than root causes. US doctors are basically legalized drug pushers. If one or both are elevated, doctors want to prescribe drugs to lower them instead of figuring out and if appropriate addressing the root causes for the higher than normal levels.
@Aqua man I don't know, I think they're backward.
The history of nutrition science nearly mirrors the history of climate science. James Hanson plays the role of Ancil Keys and Al Gore plays the role of George McGovern.
How about hyperresponders as identified by Dave Feldman? Their blood cholesterol increases a lot on a lchf diet.
Kathy A but there’s no indication that high cholesterol causes heart disease. If we see more arterial plaque or high blood pressure in hyper responders, then that may become a cause of concern.
Anon Nymous just making the point that in those cases the dietary fat does increase cholesterol
Kathy A and that's a good thing.
Dave is a moron. LDL is causal in development of atherosclerosis. This is true for all, "hyperresponder" or not.
@@epicsdrummer2010
It's a good thing that our body makes all the cholesterol that it needs.
On behalf of all Americans I want to apologize to the world for our sheepish corrupt money-grabbing “science” professionals.
Sitting here, having put on the 20lbs I lost on keto. I couldn't do keto forever, so I'm going to try a middle road. Low carb. It's hard to follow a middle path. I'm either giving a diet everything I've got or I'm giving it NOTHING. I need to be buddhist about this. ''Just'' Low Carb.
Last slide should be made into a T-shirt and everyone should be forced to wear it.
Actually, no one should be forced to do anything, except to respect everyone else's right to not be forced to do anything. The Philosophy of Liberty: ruclips.net/video/8GazZBvHhgQ/видео.html
Of course, this means that no one has the right to pollute 'the commons', since polluting the air and water forces others to breathe and drink the pollution.
However, you are free to print those T-shirts and wear them for others to see. And you are at liberty to print them and sell or give them to others to help spread the message you want to share!
Dreadful parenting. Mothers giving their babies sweets cakes, chocs and drinks to keep them docile so by two or three they are addicted
The eighties was when there was a huge surge in women going to work and in those days child carer businesses used these same techniques to attract customers and then control them
At the same time we have the relentless and ruthless advertising campaigns by sweet, cake, chocolate, biscuit, white flour & pasta, milk and soft drink companies
I do not know if this is still done, but newborn infants were routinely fed sugar water in bottles in the hospitals soon after birth.
Thank you. 🙏 So few people address the link between feminism and obesity. Once women were free to leave their kitchens behind and to seek jobs outside the home, the obesity problem skyrocketed. I say this as a feminist…😮
Yes, but women didn't suddenly leave the kitchen because they were "free" to. They left the home out of economic necessity. A one-person income was no longer enough for most of the middle and lower classes to scrape by on.
This was done very deliberately. Our decision-makers realized after WWII that half of the work force was working for the other half of the work force, instead of working for the GDP.
They set out, through relentless propaganda and policy pushing, to change that.
Getting women out of the home also had the additional benefit (for our decision-makers) of getting the children out of the home too, and getting them into conditioning camps (a.k.a. public schools) at a much younger age.
The family unit was broken up in such a way that children no longer imprinted on their parents as their primary role models, but on the herds of their peers that they spent most of each day with. When a child's role model is other children, we see what we have been seeing ever since: adults who are functionally and emotionally still children.
All of this is tragic and disgusting, but to lay the blame for it on women is exactly what our policy-makers want you to do. Turning men against women and women against men (and children against their parents) was another very deliberate choice on their part, and is exactly how they keep us fractured and weak.
Tell Zoe to stop using that ectomorph anorexic model TWIGGY as a model for aesthetic admiration! Not!
I call the crap frankenfood.
It's the Russian's fault with the rabbit experiment. jk, lol
BTW, the world's longest living person, French woman, Jean Calment, purportedly ate a lot of dark chocolate.
“Purportedly”
Not a lot actually.
What happened ? Burgers happened.
And fried foods, junk foods and so abundantly.
Actually... burgers were around for a long time before the obesity and diabetes epidemics began. The truth is out there...
@@Jefferdaughter
The diabetes epidemic began when fast food restaurants came to nearly every town in the USA. I was there. It started in the late 70's. And gas stations becacame convenience stores packed full of junk food and soda pops.
People in the US eat, on average, 40lbs of red meat LESS in 2022 than they did back in 1971 (when red meat consumption peaked). Obesity is linked to sugar and carbohydrate consumption but not red meat.
Dear Lord, when will you all stop this "why do authorities keep looking away and being so ignorant" agenda. DO UNDERSTAND that authorities DO acknowledge all this, they just choose NOT to spread this, not to recommend this. Why? Cos the world's food and pharmaceutical industry would collapse over night. And NO economy can EVER afford collapsing even one of such powerful economies, much less two. If these two collapse, everything else collapses. And the whole world gets poor. I honestly don't understand how come you cannot comprehend such obvious and logical consequence of eating healthy. Cos there's NO healthy food coming out of a factory. If you want to eat healthy, you need to eat local food AND you need to buy food directly from farmers. So the majority of people will continue to eat unhealthy and will continue getting ill. You cannot save the whole world, you can only save some people. And in all honesty, if the economy collapses, there will be no money left to buy your books. So you - as well - don't want people to get healthy, you just want SOME people to get healthy. Sounds harsh but it's also true.
All of this confuses me and worries me sometimes. I already withdrew the money I had invested in the "drug industries" . Don't want to see all of my savings from hard work melt away because economy collapses
@@katrienopsomer8012 if economy collapses there will be no where you can put your money in safely
I respectfully disagree about the economy collapsing. What the giant multi-national corporations do is concentrate more and more wealth and power into the hands of fewer and fewer people. This creates unstable economies.
Corporations basically exist to enrich and empower a few people, while shielding those people from the consequences of their actions, or actions taken on their behalf.
Jefferdaughter you’re wrong. PROFITS go to rich and they get richer. Salaries go to people. No salaries, no jobs, no jobs no sales, no sales no economy. You took wrong basis for your hypothesis.
Eating locally isn't any healthier. Why, because some misguided people say we should eat what grows where we live because for some stupid reason they believe that people are genetically bound to their physical location. Guess what, our most recent ancestors especially in US come from some distant place.
"The obese are not always great eaters: but they invariably drink a great deal, even though it be only water." Water makes you fat. It's the line in the same book just before the one she and Taubes found so brilliant "Farinaceous and vegetable foods are fattening, and saccharine matters are especially so." Experts knew about as much about Nutrition back then as they do now.
Insulin resistance often does cause people to be chronically thirsty and to retain water like crazy, so there's some basis for their observations...
'is it the butter or the bread that puts the weight on? It's THE BLOODY CALORIES.!!
This ignores the very different ways that fats and carbohydrates are processed by the body. The calorie was derived as a measure of energy given off by lighting a given quantity of a substance on fire and seeing how much it would increase the temperature of a measured amount of water. Useful when comparing coal to wood in steam engines, but of more limited use in a complex biological system like the human body.
Consider that feeding antibiotics to animals was found to increase their weight gain on the same amount of feed - with the same amount off calories. Or the mice that gained a lot more weight on the SAME amount of the SAME FOOD when that food was finely ground - containing the same amount of calories.
Enough about Ancel Keys. Lots of experts since him blamed fats for cancer. Today lots of experts blame red meat, even without fat, for many, many diseases. Lots of experts blame meats for disrupting the gut microbiota and destroying human health. The problems with Nutrition are way bigger than a man who retired in 1972.
“How can we do that to a teenager?”
I didn’t do that
Prince Charles truly is The Prince of Whales
Dank!
dogs are carnivores.
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Dogs are omnivores.
@@raj-rajesh no, dogs are carnivores. Deer, horses and cows are known to eat small birds on occasion, but we still consider them herbivores. Likewise dogs may eat plant matter incidentally but in they are carnivores.
@@somerandomperson1503 Nope. You can google it. In fact, I know vegan dog owners who do not even feed their dogs with meat. Cows will not survive at all if you feed them meat.
@@raj-rajesh Unfortunately, this is also false. Cows can eat meat, as a matter of fact, many do. This is an easily verifiable fact. They are known to eat small birds or eggs quite frequently as a way to supplement their calcium. You can look this up, it is easy to find.
Dogs are carnivores, unfortunately many people abuse them by feeding them inappropriate diets which lack meat, but this doesn’t change their biology, and usually results in poor health for the dogs.
@@somerandomperson1503 You have a comprehension problem. I said cows cannot survive on meat. They will soon die. Dogs can survive on plants for a long long time.
I’m sorry, but I live in America and I’ve been around dieters for most of my life and I can tell you that very few people actually eat according to the faulty diet pyramid that is being criticized here. That doesn’t mean I think that it’s right. It’s just that people aren’t sticking to any recommended pyramid. They are depending on eating many prepared foods and also eating out, finishing off huge portions of foods a very poor quality. As I said, I am not a proponent of the food pyramid but I would wager that if people ate their food in accordance with that but stuck to Whole Foods and kept the servings of any flour-based foods to a few servings a week, plus gave up snacking and ate most of their food at meals, we would not have this issue. And when you’re talking about diets, the great majority of people don’t even stick to a diet for a week. If you change the pyramid and make it more geared towards fat and protein, there will likely be a decline in weight, but it’s doubtful the majority will even stick to that and become thin again. The marketers will be allowed to market their food-like substances, Parents will keep feeding their children what are basically drugs because somehow they think children can’t live without treats, and medical schools at least in the United States will still not devote very much time to nutrition. I don’t know what is going to turn things around.
Yup. Talking about the Proper Human Diet without addressing food addiction is like talking about monotheism without addressing the concept of God.😂
Is this the meat and dairy industry fightback that vegans have been expecting?
Vegans are delusional and mentally ill.
Georgia comes from whales? Yes.
@@barbsdee3831 - Who is more ignorant? The one making a wordplay joke, or the one who misses it, and lashes out like a fishwife?
I caused it. It was me 😈
Yes, sugar is making people fat. To say butter and oils don't is absurd. By the way, meat is dead flesh. Just want to make sure that's understood.
She thinks government advice was listened to by all USA citizens?! Haha. We duly noted that fat was supposed to be bad for you, but we went right on eating thousands of hamburgers, hot dogs, pizzas, cheesy everythings, as well as pastrami, baloney, and all the rest. If she doesn't think U.S. citizens kept eating fat and actually increased it as their weight went up, she wasn't, and isn't, here.
Most of that is paired with bread of some kind and as a drink added to that? Fruit juice, soda, energy drinks, Gatorade/Powerade all filled with what? Sugar/Carbohydrates.
@Paul Miller This is incorrect. Per capita red meat consumption in the United States peaked in 1971 at 150 lbs per person per year. It has steadily fallen since then and is at 111 lbs per person per year in 2022. Red meat is inversely linked to the obesity epidemic. As red meat intake decreased, obesity rates increased. These figures are sourced from the USDA.
Oh add to confusion wont you, your explanations make nothing at all clearer.
So tired of Doctor upon Doctor, writing books about how we got here!
Where were all these super smart doctors back then?
We have had book after book, and each and every one of them tells us something different!!
Blah, Blah, Blah!
Talk to vegan doctors and fat is the culprit.
Talk to keto doctors and carbs are the culprit.
Who’s right and who’s wrong?
I am so tired of all these professionals. I honestly don’t think any of them know what they are saying!!
Sorry for the broad brush approach, but I’m just so tired of these people searching out tests that agree with their hypothesis.
I am so glad to see and intelligent reply. Obesity is caused by overeating, plain and simple. The answer is actually very simple. Just eat a healthy well balanced diet and stay active. Also it's a good idea to consider your genetics when making your healthy food choices.
@@sunshine87654 - Yes, those who ancestors come from the Alpine regions of Europe should remember that their ancestors lived mostly on milk, cheeses, and meats,. Grain was not introduced int northern Europe and the British Isles until only few thousand years ago, and due to climate and labor involved, it was a small percentage of the diet. Potatoes were introduced there only a few hundred years ago. Sheep meat was a staple in the British Isles until very recently. The climate was also favorable to dairying. Fish and shellfish were also important foods on these islands.
Those with ancestors who came from the nomadic herders of the Middle East, Africa, and Eurasia also consumed milk and meat as the bulk of their diet, and some also consumed the blood (we think this is gross, but we're fine with running it right into our veins) and fermented milk into yogurt, kefit, or made cheeses.
Those with American Indian* ancestry really need to avoid sugar and avoid or severely limit starches. This may include those whose families arrived in the colonial era, when it was not uncommon for the trappers and settlers to marry native women.
*Indian as a name for the people in the New World reportedly came from Columbus' observations of the harmonious relationship the first people he met there had with each other and their environment, leading him to call them 'a people "en Dios" ' as recorded in his diaries, 'a people in God'.
Hindustan and the areas now called India apparently did not get that name for another 250 years or so.
@@Jefferdaughter
I am not going to argue with you. I just want to make one point. The native Americans ate corn, beans and squash (carbs).
@@sunshine87654 The American Indians of the plains were nomadic and did not farm at all. They followed the bison and ate meat. The American Indians you speak of ate deer, rabbit, fish, etc.. and supplemented their diet with plant foods in season.
Holy bad, cherry picking science , Batman! 😂😂😂This is bonkers. Nothing about fibre, nothing about what people are actually eating ( not just government recommendations). Eat real food, mostly plants, NOT TOO MUCH.