I wholeheartedly agree, And your next thought is allways- Oh no, Do i have my back at a wall well enough for no stab and...Where the hell is my teamates? XD
>Oh hey, a distracted heavy! >Walks up to him, makes no noise >Just behind him >He turns around for no reason, still getting shot at >I die >WHAT AM I DOING WRONG
ManchmalPfosten Sometimes when I'm a Heavy I get the feeling that a Spy is behind me, even when he doesn't make any noise. Probably just Spy Paranoia, playing Heavy does these things to people.
Just TF2 things. You'll get those stabs once you improve your instincts and reflexes. As a Spy, you should bail out immediately once you see them turning to face you. *The faster the reflex, the faster you'll get out of hell's gate faster and fight another day.* - A Wise Idiot With No Life Whatsoever 2017
The thing that is wrong here is your movement. You should aim to go to the enemy's sides for a backstab so if they turn around you still have that 180 backstab hit box open. Start making it a habit to decloak and move in your enemy's blindspots. Also, if an enemy turns back suddenly and faces you, quickly strafe one way and then strafe the other way and to execute a quick matador. Works wonders even on good players and it confuses the shit out people. :D
Dead Ringer= aggressive spy Cloak N Dagger= patient "picking" spy Invisi Watch= stealthy spy It all matters on what you do as a spy But will you do a video on the new Your Eternal Reward?
Adam Smith nice idea for a sapper. Another idea for new sapper...2x Health drain speed BUT can be broken from any class...that would actually be pretty bad lol
Coming from a Pyro main, you are probably the best Spy main out there. You inspire to keep going, know my roles, strategies, routes, etc. Even though my death to kills ratio favors deaths, Im getting more kills frequently. All thanks to you. But Im still having trouble reflecting Demoman grenades and stickies.
Had a match where I was blending in perfectly with the enemy... till our medic started healing me directly in front of an enemy soldier. Didn't go well after that.
Watching you use the Dead Ringer after the nerf, I can confirm that the nerf was a great idea. Because you can't just recharge it on the go, that means you have to work with it instead of just throwing yourself into danger with the get-out-of-jail-free card that was once the Dead Ringer. You prove that this watch is still useful.
Recharging it on the go was never a mindless matter... it has become less skilled rather than more skilled... The ringer is always a get out of jail free card ever since they added speed boost and fire prevention to it... it was fine before those adjustments.
Same here. Heck, I've been practicing with the Eternal Reward + Dead Ringer combo (sure it's against bots but still) usually, it's the Eternal Reward + Cloak and Dagger.
Well..with bots (and on Gorge) I did just that. Dominate 4. Heck got a 5 back stab spree (Medic, Heavy, Demoman, Engie and Scout) Yeah, I know, I know..they're just bots but still for a guy who has rusty skills that's saying something.
*SMAXZO* and *Shadow Ultimate99* I like to use this combo to, but it's difficult. I'm sad about what they did with the ambassador, in my opinion this beautiful revolver and the Panic Attack don't deserve the nerfs.
What ive found was that with The Eternal Reward its way easier to make them believe your disguise cause most have not even heard of the Eternal reward. They see a pyro then they see only a engi they most of the time they dont think Your eternal Reward. THey think where the hell did that pyro go, then they go spy and if you say spy and look around quickly acting scared they believe the disguise. simply act as what you disguise as. Its very funny. on Ghost Fortress a soldier beleived my engineer disguise even though i sapped a building in front of him. He yelled spy and i wiped my disguises shotgun out and yelled spy too. And i also made sure to look around rapidly as to be scared. He didnt fire a single rocket at me. Keep up the good work Mr.P
With your unbelievable amount of uploads, you do inspire me to keep on playing spy in terrific times like this. Spy is my least played class, and I do wish to become better at him. I play a lot of engineer, but I must learn more about his rival's playstyle and strategies, as well as try to play that rival. Your videos are very entertaining and educational, keep on making, great vid Pal!
Emilis Jakubauskas Thats very understandable, Engineer is a support class, just like Medic. Yes its very understandable that your buildings do eventually get destroyed, cause at a certain point the enemy has to push and destroy all of it. You must have patience, and the joy of helping teammates getting to the frontlines faster, I mean, no one wants to walk all the way back where you were right? The joy of saving someone's life from burning to death with your healthy dispencer, and actually seeing yourself to keep your sentry up while getting decent amount of kills. Engineer is more of team player, such as medic. Without a supportive decent team, you'll die a lot without them. Engineer also has many types of play styles, offensive and defensively. Yes, spies and demoman as well as uber pushes and incredibly frustrating. But if you play long enough, you will adapt to these events, and use different tools to counter these shenadigans. Engineer is undoubtedly fun. Just as medic as a support class. I enjoy helping my teammates. You should try out the Texan maniac next time haha.
I think the reason why I thoroughly enjoy these videos is because of how calm MrPaladin is. Everything is just fine. There's no sourness, just good calm gaming and advice and a splash of opinions. Simply just taking a breath and thinking, "be calm like MrPaladin, dying isn't that bad, we have unlimited respawns. It's just a game and I'm here to have fun." Really helps me when I play spy. Through watching MrPaladin, the inviswatch has become my favorite spy cloak, and for the most part I use straight default when I do play spy. (Save for the red tape. I know it's bad. But I like it. Emptying their dispensers is just cruel and I love setting the engi's back with it.) My only issue right now is the timing on enemy spawns. Keeping tabs on that is one of the big barriers of me getting better at spy.
Mr.Paladin inspired me to play spy and that was 3 years ago. Look at me now a good spy player all thanks to mr.paladin Edit: Thanks for the heart Mr.P:)
How about this for an Enforcer change? Current Enforcer > +20% damage bonus while disguised > Attacks pierce damage resistance effects and bonuses > -20% slower firing speed > No random critical hits Retro Enforcer > +20% damage bonus > -20% cloak meter > -20% slower firing speed > No random critical hits
Hey Mr Paladin, Your the best Spy I've ever seen, and i got a lot of inspiration from you. Keep up the good work! Your the reason why i play TF2, and how i'm getting better as i play!
No problem! Its nothing compared to the gameplay you make to show how to play spy better, and properly! Hope you more blessings, and more informative/funny vids!
Ahh, yes another wonderful video from the all powerful...Never let us down for at least once, we believe in you Mr.Paladin. Supporting ya till the end.
Man everytime I watch your spy videos before playing tf2, I get better at playing spy. Seriously tho you're the reason why I main spy in the first place.
I completely agree with you on the kunai, invis, and letranger loadout. It was one of my favorites before the update and is definatly now. I do like to use it with revolver aswell.
"I use the door to cover the decloack" and then theres me, that when I'm about to start stabbing on a columon of heavy firing Brass Beast, Natasha and stock hear me anyway ant turn around before I can close the distance
I still take 30 min to find A game but Mr Paladin here STILL gets perfectly balanced teams, not ones where he's outnumbered 12 lifeless freaks to 1, not ones where he's 1 of 12 lifeless freaks vs 1st timers. Not even buying a hat changed it. Balance. Fair play. Matchmaking. Funny words.
I'm in love with running the L'Etranger, Dead Ringer, and Big Earner. Speed for days and you can almost have dead ringer up as much as you used to with the combination of getting Big Earner stabs and L'Etranger shots.
The Le’tranger is my fav primary because it allows you to stay invisible for SO long and helps with cloak, and the lower damage shouldn’t be to detrimental, because most of the work should be done with a knife, and after one or two shots, you can just invis away, stock knife and invis watch are my fav aswell because they are so well rounded
I finish my morning cigar and come back inside to find a new video by Mr.P. Nice timing, I guess. As for the Amby nerf, I like it because it stops aimbots and script kiddies from going Amby spy to try and hide what they're doing. I know a nerf should never come because of something like that, but it's Valve we're talking about, and they aren't too bright over there. An easier way to deal with scripts like LMAO would be to sue the creators of such scripts, and engage in blanket bans for players reported using them once or twice a month.
I've switched to invis watch now. Stock revolver, invis, stock sapper and spycicle is my load out. I might use l'étranger and dead ringer OR maybe big earner and dead ringer if I wanna use my gun more. I like stock revolver more than l'étranger because a lot of people don't expose their back very often (they turn around 24/7), and I rely on the revolver to kill people more than the knife nowadays.
That's why Spy's weapons are my favorite, there're tons of combinations and dif play styles. I used to abuse the dead ringer and after it's nerf, my spy game dropped significantly, I couldn't get anything done other than walk in and die, but you know what they say, adapt or perish. So now what I'm rocking is L'etranger, the Cloak and Camper and the Spy-cicle, works wonder with 31738964638 pyros around and I've been able to help my team way more. I still wished the DR would reward you just a little by doing spy things like backstabbing or sapping by filling that cloak just a little faster.
I've foudn the eternal reward to be a straight upgrade when used with a letranger. I use it with the cloak and dagger, when you have full cloak AND you're invisible, you can disguise without coming out of cloak, which is nice, and if you disguise in spawn you do not lose any cloak. This knife is by far my favorite knife now, and is what I use when I need to play spy.
I like the big earner, diamondback and cloak and dagger. Btw I feel like the best time to get stabs is when the timer is almost out. By then, the pub push usually happens and they always ignore everything to push the cart/cap the point.
Hey MrPaladin ! First I want to say that I am a big fan of yours! I learned so much about how to play the sneaky french man ! To thank you, here's a little advice : As a french guy, I can tell you that the "Etranger" is pronounced this way : Aitranjai (following the english pronunciation). Keep up the awesome work, you sneaky snake !
In the end I know that it is just a detail , it doens't matter how you pronounce it as long as everybody knows what you are talking about haha ! Anyway, keep it up man ! I'm watching every single one of your videos (sometimes more than once haha) and I gotta say, it is awesome, or "génial" in french ! :D
Spy gets easier as you play. Eventually, reflexes and map knowledge will start to guide you. Usually my loadout would be the Ambassador, Stock Knife, and Dead Ringer, but after the Pyro Update, I had to go with an all stock loadout. The Ambassador isn't as effective anymore, and the DR is more of a handicap for me. The Diamondback would've been a great alternative, if I could actually hit those shots.
My friend and I had a massive argument about whether the new Amby is still viable. I say its still good at low to low-med range but he says stock beats it in every way. What are your thoughts?
Whenever I watch one of MrPaladin's videos, I just want to play Spy. I guess you could say he was an "inspyration" to me. I'm sorry, I had to. Plez dun't kill meh.
I've always liked YER, and had a soft spot for the Enforcer, but I find that the two pair well together now. The YER rework shifts from forcing you to rely on cloak to forcing you to rely on disguises, so in many cases, the Enforcer is more useful for quickly dispatching an enemy if you're caught, since your cloak should be saved once you've moved closer to where you wanna be, e.e, your team.
I would suggest that the DR's speed boost is removed, while reverting the ammo pickup. That way spies wouldn't get away as easily (The problem with the DR is that a lot of player tend to lose the spy after feign due to boost)
I love the red-tape recorder instead of zapping dmg and the engine heals it back to health as a lvl 3 sentry but if I use the red-tape I can distract him just that 1 distract is a lvl 3 sentry to lvl 1 sentry :3
Man, I still use the deadringer, I still like it, and is still really useful, and I use the Big Earner or whatever the anime knife is. Plus the DiamondBack.
This new Update with the DR nerf, has got me using the Invis Watch more. Its so fun actually, without the update i don't think i would be bothered with the Invis Watch. I used to play Gun Spy with DR, with amby nerf as well it makes it feel weak but still a clutch weapon but for the most Clutchiest of moments
Your plays with the spy really motivates but everytime I play spy, its either soldier medic combos literally going backwards all the time. Soldier dumps 4 rockets while the medic is looking back all the time. The solder reloads, the medic goes on rampage with a gurrantee crit swing.
On the topic of buffs and nerfs, I'd imagine that the other weapons that need reworking will be done in the heavy update(this would be the enforcer, the baby face blaster, the diamondback, the shortstop, the backscatter, the manmelter, the third degree, the loch-n-load(again), the dalokohs bar, buffalo steak sandvich, warrior's spirit, the OVERDOSE(single least used weapon in the game, bar none), the classic, and the red tape recorder). All those weapons listed need balancing, ranging from simple changes(let the classic headshot from zero charge, and make the overdose speed buff passive) to full-on reworks(diamondback and backscatter). I'm not certain about the new weapons yet, since you can't tell the balance of the weapon when team composition is nowhere near the typical just yet. Honestly, though, I'm not mad when I get killed by them(except the hot hand purely because it's a melee).
Don't know about the enforcer, I just used a regular revolver, but I had success using dead ringer + your eternal reward in Turbine post jungle update, the speed boost from the dead ringer actually helps in getting into the back into the intel room.
Probably a crazy idea, but what if instead of reverting construction progress on buildings, the red tape dealt damage half as fast as stock (or maybe not at all?) but disabled the building for maybe a second or two longer after it was removed? It turns it into a tool you use to guaranteed a sentry be down for a few seconds even if the other team is being really good about removing sappers, so your team can push and possibly even take down the sentry if the engis fail to keep up the heals on it or just pull it out of danger entirely.
Mr. Paladin, I've always loved your videos, and you are the reason I am a spy main. But I just have to ask, where in the world do you find these 'calm' servers? Anytime I join a casual match I'm put in with several check-happy pyros or soldiers and team-mates that lead pursuers right into me while I'm cloaked, Or going for a stab. One other question. One that's thwarted me time and again: Several engineers in a small space all hyper-aware for spies. I can't go through their teleporter without being instantly checked, I cant hop over their guns without being blinked or hit by a engie and I can't get sight of their backs as they have them to a wall. I know team-mates generally should sort that out, but 90% I can't trust them as far as I could throw a heavy!
the only buff that I can think of for the Red-Tape Recorder is that it takes longer to remove it for the engies, to delay one more touch for all the wrenches
What about the Hyper-Aggressive loadout, Mr. P? Diamondback, Big Earner, Dead Ringer. Decloak early and often and rely on the BE to recharge the DR, spew crits from the DB whenever possible.
@MrPaladin , I have 2 questions. What Revolver do you think has taken the spotlight now that the Ambassador has been nerfed? Thoughts on the current nerfs effecting Spy in MvM?
My playstyle is 99% based on my watch. On the Dead Ringer I practice acting and seeing what I can get away with. On the Cloak and Dagger I practice timing, pacience and on picking targets. And on the regular Inviswatch I sort of combine the two. I play more risky but still pick my targets carefully. The mobility of the inviswatch compared to the Cloak and Dagger is useful. Respond anyone, if you think i'm wrong, or if you play in a similar way. :)
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As a heavy main I can confirm that watching a spy uncloak as you eat a sandwich is the most terrifying thing in the game
I wholeheartedly agree, And your next thought is allways- Oh no, Do i have my back at a wall well enough for no stab and...Where the hell is my teamates? XD
Rigna Tetris it's even worse when, like in the video, you back into what you thought was a wall and you go to eat but a spy uncloaks RIGHT behind you
yes especially then you then know, You fucked up. allways look before munching it helps a little.
this is proof that heavy mains exist people, SPREAD THE WORD!
Agreed.
>Oh hey, a distracted heavy!
>Walks up to him, makes no noise
>Just behind him
>He turns around for no reason, still getting shot at
>I die
>WHAT AM I DOING WRONG
ManchmalPfosten
Sometimes when I'm a Heavy I get the feeling that a Spy is behind me, even when he doesn't make any noise. Probably just Spy Paranoia, playing Heavy does these things to people.
Just TF2 things. You'll get those stabs once you improve your instincts and reflexes. As a Spy, you should bail out immediately once you see them turning to face you.
*The faster the reflex, the faster you'll get out of hell's gate faster and fight another day.* - A Wise Idiot With No Life Whatsoever 2017
Maybe he got shot from the back and turned arround because of that
You played spy, duh.
The thing that is wrong here is your movement. You should aim to go to the enemy's sides for a backstab so if they turn around you still have that 180 backstab hit box open.
Start making it a habit to decloak and move in your enemy's blindspots. Also, if an enemy turns back suddenly and faces you, quickly strafe one way and then strafe the other way and to execute a quick matador. Works wonders even on good players and it confuses the shit out people. :D
5:34 Man, that Heavy must have laid a brick and immediately regretted his decision.
Oh man, I would have wet my pants if that happened to me.
"It was at that moment... He knew... he fucked up."
*record scratch*
Yep, thats me... the heavy... you may wonder how we ended up in this situation...
Dead Ringer= aggressive spy
Cloak N Dagger= patient "picking" spy
Invisi Watch= stealthy spy
It all matters on what you do as a spy
But will you do a video on the new Your Eternal Reward?
I have had the YER in a few videos in a row now ;)
YER is the chain stab knife/stealth knife
What is your favored loadout after the current rounds of nerfs?
MrPaladin hi
Default spy
letranger( or whatever that's spelled) the spy-cicle and the dead ringer.
DR revolver butterknife
Default with ambassador. Because its crits
MrPaladin why are you taking the Red tape rec... *listens to him talking about it* ...
;) I'll really have to do that video soon :)
MrPaladin lol yeap. Going to college/Coming home and seeing a notification just puts a long smile on my face :D keep up the good stuff sir
do you think the spy needs another sapper (maybe a faster destruction, but one hit instead of 2 to remove) or is the 2 sappers already enough?
Adam Smith nice idea for a sapper. Another idea for new sapper...2x Health drain speed BUT can be broken from any class...that would actually be pretty bad lol
MrPaladin yes please
Coming from a Pyro main, you are probably the best Spy main out there. You inspire to keep going, know my roles, strategies, routes, etc. Even though my death to kills ratio favors deaths, Im getting more kills frequently. All thanks to you.
But Im still having trouble reflecting Demoman grenades and stickies.
Had a match where I was blending in perfectly with the enemy... till our medic started healing me directly in front of an enemy soldier. Didn't go well after that.
EddyMcChuckleNuggets god damn it medi
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Watching you use the Dead Ringer after the nerf, I can confirm that the nerf was a great idea. Because you can't just recharge it on the go, that means you have to work with it instead of just throwing yourself into danger with the get-out-of-jail-free card that was once the Dead Ringer. You prove that this watch is still useful.
Recharging it on the go was never a mindless matter... it has become less skilled rather than more skilled... The ringer is always a get out of jail free card ever since they added speed boost and fire prevention to it... it was fine before those adjustments.
i kinda quit tf2 but now i am back in the tf2 community
Julok yeah about the same
many have returned with this update. It has made things refreshing.
MrPaladin yeah i did lol
I start to use the Eternal Reward after the update!
Mlg pro player 291 to be honest, it was better before this nerf.
Same here. Heck, I've been practicing with the Eternal Reward + Dead Ringer combo (sure it's against bots but still) usually, it's the Eternal Reward + Cloak and Dagger.
SMAXZO I had before 4 dominations with this loadout. 4 DOMINATIONS dude. For others, it's not a lot but for me it is.
Well..with bots (and on Gorge) I did just that. Dominate 4. Heck got a 5 back stab spree (Medic, Heavy, Demoman, Engie and Scout) Yeah, I know, I know..they're just bots but still for a guy who has rusty skills that's saying something.
*SMAXZO* and *Shadow Ultimate99*
I like to use this combo to, but it's difficult.
I'm sad about what they did with the ambassador, in my opinion this beautiful revolver and the Panic Attack don't deserve the nerfs.
Me: New how a spy thinks.Let's watch it.
2 minutes later
*Trying to trickstab insanely*
Space Wolf, just a protip: the best place to learn trickstabs? Any x10 server. :P
New vid, gonna make the tea and grab the cookies
I was eating the cookies :l
That's nice.
What ive found was that with The Eternal Reward its way easier to make them believe your disguise cause most have not even heard of the Eternal reward. They see a pyro then they see only a engi they most of the time they dont think Your eternal Reward. THey think where the hell did that pyro go, then they go spy and if you say spy and look around quickly acting scared they believe the disguise. simply act as what you disguise as. Its very funny. on Ghost Fortress a soldier beleived my engineer disguise even though i sapped a building in front of him. He yelled spy and i wiped my disguises shotgun out and yelled spy too. And i also made sure to look around rapidly as to be scared. He didnt fire a single rocket at me. Keep up the good work Mr.P
This one guy in thr comments did a little trick: Disguise as Medic and use the "Übercharge Ready!" Voice command
With your unbelievable amount of uploads, you do inspire me to keep on playing spy in terrific times like this. Spy is my least played class, and I do wish to become better at him. I play a lot of engineer, but I must learn more about his rival's playstyle and strategies, as well as try to play that rival.
Your videos are very entertaining and educational, keep on making, great vid Pal!
kiteggs how can you enjoy playing engineer? I guess i will never be able to answer that question.
Emilis Jakubauskas Thats very understandable, Engineer is a support class, just like Medic. Yes its very understandable that your buildings do eventually get destroyed, cause at a certain point the enemy has to push and destroy all of it. You must have patience, and the joy of helping teammates getting to the frontlines faster, I mean, no one wants to walk all the way back where you were right? The joy of saving someone's life from burning to death with your healthy dispencer, and actually seeing yourself to keep your sentry up while getting decent amount of kills.
Engineer is more of team player, such as medic. Without a supportive decent team, you'll die a lot without them. Engineer also has many types of play styles, offensive and defensively. Yes, spies and demoman as well as uber pushes and incredibly frustrating. But if you play long enough, you will adapt to these events, and use different tools to counter these shenadigans.
Engineer is undoubtedly fun. Just as medic as a support class. I enjoy helping my teammates. You should try out the Texan maniac next time haha.
himalayan duck Hmm, is it hard to find any Frenchmen in casual games? He must be turning into french fries.
I think the reason why I thoroughly enjoy these videos is because of how calm MrPaladin is. Everything is just fine. There's no sourness, just good calm gaming and advice and a splash of opinions. Simply just taking a breath and thinking, "be calm like MrPaladin, dying isn't that bad, we have unlimited respawns. It's just a game and I'm here to have fun." Really helps me when I play spy. Through watching MrPaladin, the inviswatch has become my favorite spy cloak, and for the most part I use straight default when I do play spy. (Save for the red tape. I know it's bad. But I like it. Emptying their dispensers is just cruel and I love setting the engi's back with it.) My only issue right now is the timing on enemy spawns. Keeping tabs on that is one of the big barriers of me getting better at spy.
my favorite is still the YER and the letranger
its incredibly sneaky and still effective
Ooh a heart
Mr.Paladin inspired me to play spy and that was 3 years ago. Look at me now a good spy player all thanks to mr.paladin
Edit: Thanks for the heart Mr.P:)
How about this for an Enforcer change?
Current Enforcer
> +20% damage bonus while disguised
> Attacks pierce damage resistance effects and bonuses
> -20% slower firing speed
> No random critical hits
Retro Enforcer
> +20% damage bonus
> -20% cloak meter
> -20% slower firing speed
> No random critical hits
5:37
*Morgan Freeman voice* "At this moment The Chicken knew, he fucked up."
Heavy: * exists*
MrPaladin: It’s a large health pack.
Hey Mr Paladin,
Your the best Spy I've ever seen, and i got a lot of inspiration from you.
Keep up the good work! Your the reason why i play TF2, and how i'm getting better as i play!
Thank you for the kind words
No problem! Its nothing compared to the gameplay you make to show how to play spy better, and properly!
Hope you more blessings, and more informative/funny vids!
Ahh, yes another wonderful video from the all powerful...Never let us down for at least once, we believe in you Mr.Paladin. Supporting ya till the end.
Man everytime I watch your spy videos before playing tf2, I get better at playing spy. Seriously tho you're the reason why I main spy in the first place.
I completely agree with you on the kunai, invis, and letranger loadout. It was one of my favorites before the update and is definatly now. I do like to use it with revolver aswell.
"I use the door to cover the decloack" and then theres me, that when I'm about to start stabbing on a columon of heavy firing Brass Beast, Natasha and stock hear me anyway ant turn around before I can close the distance
MR. Paladin's videos are getting better each time! :) Keep making videos MR. P, You are the best!
5:37 That Moment.
Ernesto Aguas heavy: fucc
Your vids are absolutely amazing man, haven't watched you in 2 years since I left tf2 but I came back for Jungle Inferno. Keep up the great work!
In my opinion, the dead ringer still needs metal recharging, but reduced. Perhaps picking up metal only increases the cloak meter at -50% the amount.
*9:31* "I think his mate saw me.... *9:33* Yes, yes he did."
I still take 30 min to find A game but Mr Paladin here STILL gets perfectly balanced teams, not ones where he's outnumbered 12 lifeless freaks to 1, not ones where he's 1 of 12 lifeless freaks vs 1st timers. Not even buying a hat changed it. Balance. Fair play. Matchmaking. Funny words.
i love watching your videos before school everyday
Your eternal reward is now my mostly picked knife. I took the l'cantspellthis and the normal invis watch. Works pretty good for me
Ur my favorite spy youtuber and tf2 youtuber keep up the good work
5:37 RIP heavy lol
Man I love MrPaladin👍
Am i the only one who thinks they should add a new Sapper?
majinfreecell yeah and it would turn them into a mini sentry but doesn’t work on dispensers and it takes 2 secs to place and 12 to finish
Yuri is my waifu
No
I just enjoy watching your vids thanks for making em ^^
I'm in love with running the L'Etranger, Dead Ringer, and Big Earner. Speed for days and you can almost have dead ringer up as much as you used to with the combination of getting Big Earner stabs and L'Etranger shots.
Wow, I'm early for once, thanks Mr.P for uploading right now.
The Le’tranger is my fav primary because it allows you to stay invisible for SO long and helps with cloak, and the lower damage shouldn’t be to detrimental, because most of the work should be done with a knife, and after one or two shots, you can just invis away, stock knife and invis watch are my fav aswell because they are so well rounded
4:46 Mr.Paladin defended the church. HE IS A RELIGIOUS MAN!!!!! not a heretic.
I finish my morning cigar and come back inside to find a new video by Mr.P. Nice timing, I guess. As for the Amby nerf, I like it because it stops aimbots and script kiddies from going Amby spy to try and hide what they're doing. I know a nerf should never come because of something like that, but it's Valve we're talking about, and they aren't too bright over there. An easier way to deal with scripts like LMAO would be to sue the creators of such scripts, and engage in blanket bans for players reported using them once or twice a month.
I've switched to invis watch now. Stock revolver, invis, stock sapper and spycicle is my load out. I might use l'étranger and dead ringer OR maybe big earner and dead ringer if I wanna use my gun more.
I like stock revolver more than l'étranger because a lot of people don't expose their back very often (they turn around 24/7), and I rely on the revolver to kill people more than the knife nowadays.
*MrPaladin joins the game.*
Enemy player: Why is my entire team suddenly Pyro?
Yey u made another 1 of "How a Spy Thinks". Thanks Mr. P
That's why Spy's weapons are my favorite, there're tons of combinations and dif play styles. I used to abuse the dead ringer and after it's nerf, my spy game dropped significantly, I couldn't get anything done other than walk in and die, but you know what they say, adapt or perish. So now what I'm rocking is L'etranger, the Cloak and Camper and the Spy-cicle, works wonder with 31738964638 pyros around and I've been able to help my team way more.
I still wished the DR would reward you just a little by doing spy things like backstabbing or sapping by filling that cloak just a little faster.
L'tranger, C&D, stock knife, and regular sapper. Has always been my favorite, the changes have made it less stressful to chose that.
Who else loves the relaxed style of Mr.p's videos?
I've foudn the eternal reward to be a straight upgrade when used with a letranger. I use it with the cloak and dagger, when you have full cloak AND you're invisible, you can disguise without coming out of cloak, which is nice, and if you disguise in spawn you do not lose any cloak. This knife is by far my favorite knife now, and is what I use when I need to play spy.
w2gMk same but with the dead ringer
05:37 I've imagined a letter in the Heavy's back saying, "Stab me" lol.
Red tape recorder buff can not be removed by friendly players?
0:34
DiamondBack:you forgot that i exist
I like the big earner, diamondback and cloak and dagger. Btw I feel like the best time to get stabs is when the timer is almost out. By then, the pub push usually happens and they always ignore everything to push the cart/cap the point.
Hey MrPaladin ! First I want to say that I am a big fan of yours! I learned so much about how to play the sneaky french man ! To thank you, here's a little advice : As a french guy, I can tell you that the "Etranger" is pronounced this way : Aitranjai (following the english pronunciation). Keep up the awesome work, you sneaky snake !
That's how I used to say it, then people tried to keep correcting it
In the end I know that it is just a detail , it doens't matter how you pronounce it as long as everybody knows what you are talking about haha ! Anyway, keep it up man ! I'm watching every single one of your videos (sometimes more than once haha) and I gotta say, it is awesome, or "génial" in french ! :D
Thus makes me feel... tres bon!
Avec plaisir, Monsieur !
i love you MrPaladin ! =)
It really sounds like an anime with that music. And i love it
Spy gets easier as you play. Eventually, reflexes and map knowledge will start to guide you.
Usually my loadout would be the Ambassador, Stock Knife, and Dead Ringer, but after the Pyro Update, I had to go with an all stock loadout. The Ambassador isn't as effective anymore, and the DR is more of a handicap for me.
The Diamondback would've been a great alternative, if I could actually hit those shots.
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You and i play the same way
Feelsbadman
Probably because of the noise.
basically
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I must admit, seeing these nerfs just warms the heart like a flamethrower
My friend and I had a massive argument about whether the new Amby is still viable. I say its still good at low to low-med range but he says stock beats it in every way. What are your thoughts?
Whenever I watch one of MrPaladin's videos, I just want to play Spy.
I guess you could say he was an "inspyration" to me.
I'm sorry, I had to. Plez dun't kill meh.
*backstab*
I've always liked YER, and had a soft spot for the Enforcer, but I find that the two pair well together now. The YER rework shifts from forcing you to rely on cloak to forcing you to rely on disguises, so in many cases, the Enforcer is more useful for quickly dispatching an enemy if you're caught, since your cloak should be saved once you've moved closer to where you wanna be, e.e, your team.
What HUD do you use MrPaladin?
I would suggest that the DR's speed boost is removed, while reverting the ammo pickup. That way spies wouldn't get away as easily (The problem with the DR is that a lot of player tend to lose the spy after feign due to boost)
Thanks mr.P
I love the red-tape recorder instead of zapping dmg and the engine heals it back to health as a lvl 3 sentry but if I use the red-tape I can distract him just that 1 distract is a lvl 3 sentry to lvl 1 sentry :3
As a main heavy this video helps me a lot :)) ty
Well done on the music goes well with the vide keep up the stabs :3
Man, I still use the deadringer, I still like it, and is still really useful, and I use the Big Earner or whatever the anime knife is. Plus the DiamondBack.
Kunai, Cloak and Dagger, and LeTRange all day every day.
Mine favourite is L'etranger, Invis Watch and Spy-cicle/Default knife, 2nd fav is Diamondback, Kunai and DR
lol i'm really bad at spy but these videos seem to help when someone's not whining to me about changing classes from medic to try something different
"the le-tron-jer"
it hurts me to hear this
same base word as stranger...
This new Update with the DR nerf, has got me using the Invis Watch more.
Its so fun actually, without the update i don't think i would be bothered with the Invis Watch.
I used to play Gun Spy with DR, with amby nerf as well it makes it feel weak but still a clutch weapon but for the most Clutchiest of moments
Your plays with the spy really motivates but everytime I play spy, its either soldier medic combos literally going backwards all the time. Soldier dumps 4 rockets while the medic is looking back all the time. The solder reloads, the medic goes on rampage with a gurrantee crit swing.
On the topic of buffs and nerfs, I'd imagine that the other weapons that need reworking will be done in the heavy update(this would be the enforcer, the baby face blaster, the diamondback, the shortstop, the backscatter, the manmelter, the third degree, the loch-n-load(again), the dalokohs bar, buffalo steak sandvich, warrior's spirit, the OVERDOSE(single least used weapon in the game, bar none), the classic, and the red tape recorder). All those weapons listed need balancing, ranging from simple changes(let the classic headshot from zero charge, and make the overdose speed buff passive) to full-on reworks(diamondback and backscatter). I'm not certain about the new weapons yet, since you can't tell the balance of the weapon when team composition is nowhere near the typical just yet. Honestly, though, I'm not mad when I get killed by them(except the hot hand purely because it's a melee).
Don't know about the enforcer, I just used a regular revolver, but I had success using dead ringer + your eternal reward in Turbine post jungle update, the speed boost from the dead ringer actually helps in getting into the back into the intel room.
Probably a crazy idea, but what if instead of reverting construction progress on buildings, the red tape dealt damage half as fast as stock (or maybe not at all?) but disabled the building for maybe a second or two longer after it was removed?
It turns it into a tool you use to guaranteed a sentry be down for a few seconds even if the other team is being really good about removing sappers, so your team can push and possibly even take down the sentry if the engis fail to keep up the heals on it or just pull it out of danger entirely.
Funny how mrp liked so many of the comments. well great video keep it up
Mr. Paladin, I've always loved your videos, and you are the reason I am a spy main. But I just have to ask, where in the world do you find these 'calm' servers? Anytime I join a casual match I'm put in with several check-happy pyros or soldiers and team-mates that lead pursuers right into me while I'm cloaked, Or going for a stab. One other question. One that's thwarted me time and again: Several engineers in a small space all hyper-aware for spies. I can't go through their teleporter without being instantly checked, I cant hop over their guns without being blinked or hit by a engie and I can't get sight of their backs as they have them to a wall. I know team-mates generally should sort that out, but 90% I can't trust them as far as I could throw a heavy!
L'etranger, and the rest is stock. Sometimes I choose the stock watch or the cloak amd dagger.
The three handed spy has to be one of my favorite visual bugs in the game.
What would you use for an aggresive spy. I used to use the dead ringer and ambassador. However I find these insufficient for a quick play style.
i think giving the red tape +50% health could be good.
I use L'trange, Black Rose.... and I used to use the DR how you are not supposed to do, use it as a crutch. I now am teaching myself to use the stock.
I like dead ringer and want prick along with dimond back it works wonders in mvm on norml claok n dagger plus revolver plus stock knife
I like the Red Tape only when the team is pushing. It helps them kill the Engineers trying to fix them.
Mrpalidin is the nimble navigator
Another great informative video. Thanks P.
the only buff that I can think of for the Red-Tape Recorder is that it takes longer to remove it for the engies, to delay one more touch for all the wrenches
yep, or a 3rd sapper with the extra hit feature :)
Acctually ever since the update some how I've been able to do more tricks tabs ,been using the l'etranger and cloak and dagger more
How people hear f2p spies with the dead ringer
*I'M OVER HERE!*
Mr Paladin is the Bob Ross of tf2
What about the Hyper-Aggressive loadout, Mr. P? Diamondback, Big Earner, Dead Ringer. Decloak early and often and rely on the BE to recharge the DR, spew crits from the DB whenever possible.
Diamondback might be broken but if you miss your shots or you suck at staying alive it wouldnt make you better...in a few words if ya suck ya suck
I forgot how good MrPs videos are.
Thank you for the kind words.
;)
@MrPaladin , I have 2 questions.
What Revolver do you think has taken the spotlight now that the Ambassador has been nerfed?
Thoughts on the current nerfs effecting Spy in MvM?
My playstyle is 99% based on my watch. On the Dead Ringer I practice acting and seeing what I can get away with. On the Cloak and Dagger I practice timing, pacience and on picking targets. And on the regular Inviswatch I sort of combine the two. I play more risky but still pick my targets carefully. The mobility of the inviswatch compared to the Cloak and Dagger is useful. Respond anyone, if you think i'm wrong, or if you play in a similar way. :)