Jesse made a good point. They were cooking way more with Gus. How can Walt expect to make the same amount of money but only cooking a small fraction of what he did before
Exactly and walt forgots about 3 important things that gus had a lot of connections to sell to and a lot more employees and bigger and better machines to make more stuff
It was less about the actual and practical $ & % amounts and more about making the business HIS. He wanted to call the shots and do it his way because he’s the genius, innovator, et cetera. His ego blinded him many times and this was one of those times.
4:10 went mostly unnoticed but imo it was kinda sad that jesse was pouring his heart out and walt didnt give a shit. It just shows that jesse had no one to talk to and walt only cared about the money and not about the well being of the people close to him.
@@twiliblade literally up to episode 3 of season 5 Walt had every chance to pull out and make it right, but he's keep climbing higher - the more he climb, the more depraved he became even until is very own downfall, he's got the last laugh over everyone, Walt is the perfect combination of talents and lucks
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They don’t work for him. What happened in the show would have happened in real life. Or they’d be so scared of what would happen they wouldn’t say anything. Imagine thinking you get hazard pay for working for a cartel
I kind of agree with Walt here, a cartel would’ve killed to silence them. Mike was to attached, they were loyal to Mike, not Walt, they would’ve turned on Walt for a deal.
People taking Walt's side don't realize that "because it's what you do" is why Gus was able to keep an international drug empire functioning for years without getting caught.
Gus killed anyone that was a problem. Truth is, Mike did take Victor having his throat cut badly, since Victor was 100% loyal to Gus. No legacy costs when you dissolve the body of the ex employee ""trouble maker"".
Nah Mike didn’t give that same courtesy to Werner or Nacho and Gus’ rules always involved tying up loose ends on his side of things like with Tomas the kid gangster who got shot by the men Walt ran over. BCS really had people rooting for the side that screwed over Nacho and for nothing other than daring to kill off Hector right then and there
@@grimdeathkidexactly. Hell the writers even created the Deus Ex Machina moment with Walt’s former partners, they were offering to cover his treatment but he refused it out of ego.
Well in this instance mike's legacy cost is definitely wasted money. The legacy cost amount is not big enough when split among 9 people and keep paying them is like keeping 9 ticking bomb under your bed. Also killing them in prison will definitely make it less likely for future captured assosiate to snitch. Because it's what you do can also be applied to mike here, unlike gus, he didn't want to tie up all loose end.
Walt's fragile ego was basically the plot device for the show. If Walt just shut the f'up and swallowed his pride he could've cooked on the DL in a meth super lab and been rich.
@@Redhotshawntexas They are the reason why Mike his people are in jail to begin with. If they just kept doing their job and didnt kill Gus they would have being fine stacking bills. They wanted to go in business with Mike, this is the cost. Your talking like Mike looking after his people is a bad thing
@@jasonmartinez9051 I think one of the points of the show is how Walt has always thought of Jesse as inferior to him, even going back to the time where he was his teacher. But as the show goes on it not only shows that Jesse is, in fact, very street smart, but also smarter than Walt when it comes to dealing with people.
@@alanwatts8239 Jesse knows how to swallow his pride and take a loss when he needs to. Walter needs to be the biggest man on the block and can't stand anyone being over him. Jesse when he got clean would have been exactly what Gus wanted in a cook. He just wanted to make money, live a quiet life and take care of his people. Walter and his ego constantly ruined things, even more than Jesse and his conscience
@@jefferycrouse4652Seeing how Jesse blew everything up even though Walt gave him multiple outs later on just because he started feeling guilt over a being in this game, even though it’s stupid because he knew what this game contains, would say otherwise if he kept working normally with Gus. Skylar was right in her regard about Jesse being a a rabid dog needing to be put down.
Once you realise how big the pie is, there's the choice to enjoy the piece you get, or there's the choice of chasing a bigger share because you know there's more.
He decides to pay because he's keeping a façade of being in the same page with Jesse. Which he immediately drops in the last scene, not caring in the least about what Jesse's telling him
What frustrates me is how Walt complains about only 137,000 dollars of tax free money for being a chef. Even Wolfgang Puck doesn't make that much everytime he cooks.
Gus was so professional always and nice to Walt (Gus even won a Peace Nobel Prize), wasnt mad at him saving Jesse from the two dealers, didn't threaten him or anything, never had a problem with Jesse AT ALL (Gus absolutely loved Jesse from the getgo), and Walt simply TOTALLY WENT NUTS OUT OF NOWHERE!!🤬🤬🤬 He totally, without any reason, ruined the whole thing!💁🏻Everything was going perfectly for Jesse and Walt but Walt wanted to bee the man!🤮 Walt is truly evil and the Devil!!!1!!1 Gus is as innocent as can be, Gus gave Walt not a single reason to act out!!! Whats wrong with that guy!? Walt, that evil Devil, and his Pride and Ego™ simply are too much!! Ego driven babeh...
I love how Walt gets mad at costs, but doesn't consider that it took Gus Fring over a dozen years for him to set things up, only for Walt to singlehandedly destroy it all in a few months. Yeah Walt, you didn't want the money when you worked for Fring, so don't complain now that you killed Fring.
@@JediLordRevanwalt dug his own grave in the gus situation, if he kept his mouth shut and did what he was told everything would have been fine, if he and jesse didn’t go kill those two people that work for gus every thing would have been fine
This honestly reminds me of how expenses go for my foodtruck. You see the revenue coming in but then you realize 10% in payroll (just me and my best friend) 30% in Rent and permits 30% in new stock and other mandatory materials. 30% in loan repayments There's a reason why accountants say pay yourself first. After expenses I can only afford to pay myself a below average salary for the area and I'm still working another job to keep myself afloat. Silver lining is the truck is going to be paid off in a year, provided the engine doesn't commit die between then and now I'll be making enough that my friend and I can work it full time even if I'll personally be taking a hit to my gross income. Free advice for anyone with a loan, the best investment you can make is paying off the principal you save so much in the long run.
@@owencheung4224that's what financial statements are used for bro. The only reason why they did it like this and not thru paper and excel is for the dramatic effect.
And it's totally reasonable. I mean, saying "legacy costs" out of a sudden while dealing with other people's money, what do you think would happen? Walt would just let it go, without even knowing what that term meant? I would have Walt's exact reaction too. It's not about ego, it's about getting things clear
What I hated about Walt In this scene is how In the previous episode when he tries to recruit Mike, he even admits that their profits would be smaller (at first) but would receive a higher cut as owners not employees. Even Jesse has to correct him in that they’re cooking a fraction amount of meth then they did in Fring’s lab so there was no valid reason besides the legacy cost for Walt to get frustrated with his profit.
The Legacy cost of 300K PER COOK was not sustainable , imo and way too big of a Slice off the top .. when Mike says " my guys are an ongoing expenditure , so best get used to it" Mr White was already trying to hatch a Plan to OFF them all .. its just not doable ..
@@Josama0214 That is wrong. Those guys never said anything. Their lawyer Mike hired for their cases eventually made a mistake when depositing their hazard pay, got arrested and flipped. The 9 guys died because their lawyer was making a plead deal. Not the henchman themselves. Mike trusted the wrong lawyer. Not wrong henchmen
@@Josama0214 Kill the guys? But the entire point was that the entire reason they got arrested was because of Walter and Jesse.. And none of them have said a single word while in there. And there is no indication imply they would have regardless of the compensation. Mike simply was looking out for his people. Mike investigates every person he works with while working for Gus.. So I am sure these guys are incredibly loyal. Mike wasnt gotta let Walter kill his people simply because they got arrested and lost every single penny to their name entirely because of the actions Walter took and the heat he brought down upon them.. They trusted the wrong lawyer sure. But that dont make Walter right in his actions to just kill them
You can get away with drug manufacturing, drug trafficking, assault, murder, disposing of corpses in barrels, money laundering, but god forbid you don’t pay your taxes.
In a way it's when he became what he destroyed with Gus. Gus was the kind of guy to murder people in cold blood, hurt children, whatever it took for business, and that's one reason Gus made the big bucks. One thing Walt discounts here is I believe this was their first cook as a new business, sure the legacy costs seem steep now, but Gus didn't get to where he was overnight. If they would have ever gotten to cooking 200 pounds a week again he would have been bringing in over $20,000,000 a year, suddenly legacy costs don't seem so bad.
@@richardmorrison7741Walter didn’t kill any children you lowlife And just because Mike wants to pay every guy 40k each every month - why would Walter do that?
I don't remember much, but Walter killing the 9 guys in prison wouldn't make him have a bigger "legacy cost"? Since he used many other guys to do the job?
still amazes me how Walt doesnt see how this is literally his fault him killing Gus in such a way with no plans about what happens next completely backfires
This scene gets even more frustrating when you think about the scene later on in the storage unit. Skylar had been trying to embezzle all of Walt's drug money but there was so much that she just gave up on it and started storing it in that unit, millions of dollars of it. And Walt was complaining about paying 9 guys just 40k a month total to keep their mouths shut.
Further proof that Walter wasn't actually mad about the money but the fact that Mike was acting like their old grumpy grandpa and that Walt has no other choice but to financially support 9 losers who got caught lmao
@@itsshrimp91 I think Walt was mad about the principal of it but also the money. I don't think he realized just how much money he was making until Skylar took him to that storage unit.
Wasn't that scene way after Mike's dead and Walt killed all the prison people and is operating basically solo with Todd volunteering and getting all the Czech Republic money?
Wth its not 9 guy = 40k / month Its each guy get 40k / month 9 x 40k Thats why legacy cost 351k If its only 40k walts not gonna complain Even saulman cut only 54k and he is not saying anything
That was later on, when their operation got better and more profitable. It’s just Mike had to always rub Walt the wrong way. Not excusing Walt’s ego, but Mike wasn’t helping his case, especially when he thought stupidly that his guys would have “honor” and keep their mouths shut.
True it would be like an employer paying his employees all of his revenue the calling all his employees back and saying they need to give part of it back to cover costs.
Not to mention those men were loyal to Gus, not Walt, and where loyalties lie is important in drug empires. It’s partially why Max was killed by Eladio and why Jesse’s loyalty was a tug of war between Gus and Walt. Badger and Skinny Pete were more loyal workers for Walt than Mike’s men were and the fact that they got caught was on them
This is what small business owners go through every payroll period. The reason the CEOs of major companies are wealthly is because they get their compensation through stock options and equity in the company they work for. They don't get a salary like their employees because that income is taxable. They only have a salary because it needs to be in the books to verify they are an "employee" of the company.They know how money works while the rest of us think pay raises will get us to wealth.
@ashtonderojas821 the remark I made was said partly in jest but with that being said I'm iffy about the "being the boss sucks" perspective or just that phrasing in general because 1) it can easily be used (and is used) to justify unearned privilege and/or shitty behavior and 2) despite the challenges that would come with being a boss, even in a small business, it will never suck as hard as being the guy at the bottom of the totempole. So yeah something about that phrasing just kinda bugs me
The end of the scene showed off the dynamic between Jesse and Walt perfectly. When Walter asked him a question, Jesse was genuinely trying to open up and tell him about his life. But all Walter really cared about was the money, and having a Yes Man to back him up. He may have cared about Jesse in his own way, but he was using him, always.
It always annoyed me when they bitched while working for Gus. Gus spent so much money and time, setting up his chicken franchise. All the locations, including food processing factories: Logistics, supply and corporate. Then the millions to build the lab, getting some great people to work for him. How long did it take him to build it all? 10 years? Maybe more?
The most ridiculous thing is that the money he's left with already far surpasses what he can use. He could have 10 carwashes, and it wouldn't be enough.
This is based on real life organized crime. If people know things about you that can get you sent to jail for the rest of your life; and they no longer have income because they are being investigated or actually in jail; then you pay them to keep them from talking unless you can kill them without much blowback. Jail is full of greedy criminals who didn't pay for loyalty. The Fed's literally broke the New York Families, because they could get lots of people to roll for an easier sentence. This even bleeds over into the legal world. A law school buddy worked for a waste management company, and they had old mob guys on the payroll. Legacy costs from buying the business and moving the mob out. I'm sure the same was true when Howard Hughes bought Vegas Casinos from the Mob. Even SMU had legacy costs from when they were paying players. One guy got injured and couldn't pay. They cut his payments and he talked. Brought down the whole program. Legacy costs are real.
@@davos6129 You mean the neo-nazi gang got rid of them. And then they, knowing about this one dude sitting upon a multi-million dollar drug ring without a single soldier, just go: "eh, let him have his fun, we got our cut" instead of taking over. Is that realistic?
Those 9 people under legacy costs aren't cooking, but make more than any cook? I think I'd be questioning the payments too. I think I'd be nicer about it. Walt's hostility shut down any discussion or negotiation, but those numbers are weird. Like for one, if the cops are watching them won't a $39,000 raise suspicions? Won't that money get taken too? What was the original agreed amount, and how much are they getting now? How many batches will they continue paying them out? Why are they getting more than active cooks? Paying for loyalty makes sense, but this is a massive surprise bill.
Yeah but keep in mind some of those expenses didn't exist for Gus, like he didnt had money laundering fee because he washes His money thru His restaurant and distribution fee was much smaller because again, he used His restaurant's trucks, plus he was making close to 200m per year so 40k per dude didn't feel that bad
If he didn’t mix the ill gotten bills with the clean ones then that would have been bad idea as that is opposite of laundering. He wanted to launder it so he had to mix it
eveyone talks about Walts ego . fair enough. But here Mike springing legacy costs now? This should have been discussed before, not the moment the cash is being split up.
Walt agreed to Mike handling the business side of things, and this was a business expense. 9 guys not ratting you out to the DEA is a pretty big business function.
@@tacitus6384But they should be out of Mike’s cut, because they are Mike’s guys, that he thought had “honor” to keep their mouths shut, but turned out they’d easily sing if there is no cash flowing. Mike could have killed them and he wouldn’t need to see Walt ever again, but hey, every character has its flaws in this show.
@@MikeCobweb they should be out of the group's cut, they're keeping the group out of prison, and they did keep their mouth's shut until the money stopped. It was a fair expenditure, they honored the deal.
@@cousinpatsey2471 Mike's guys could only implicate Mike, they couldn't do anything to Jesse or Walt since they were kept under wraps by Gus. So no, it really IS only threatening Mike so it should've come out of Mike's cut.
This showed how naive, egotistical, and greedy Walt was. For someone as smart as he is, he didn't even consider how much expense go into keeping people quiet. All he care for is his status and money. He may have outsmarted Gus but he is not still not as smart as him.
I'm with Walt, they owe the men in prison nothing. They didn't launder their money right and they got caught. Occupational hazard, they want to try to blackmail being a snitch for a group they have no association with for more payments they'll squander. Had they not been so greedy and simply asked for enough to get tvs and commissary every month to make their time easier Walt would've agreed.
Yeah this part doesn't make sense. I get Walt has an ego, but this was a pretty dumb way to portray it as Walt is also supposed to be intelligent enough to realise simple maths, as well as the fact that Gus had spent over a decade to get where he was, ran several businesses as cover, invested hundreds of millions into the operation.... Plus Mike, who is good at reading people, chooses the worst possible interpretation to explain it to Walt. I genuinely don't like the trend of deliberately making the supposedly smart protagonist dumber than your average audience just to progress a plot point and create conflict for the sake of conflict. Loved the show don't get me wrong, but there were quite a few times like this where the writing just didn't make any sense.
It's part of Walter's character. He's so convinced that he's the smartest guy in the room that he refuses to defer to anyone else's expertise even when they know better for him. Like when he thought Jesse was lazy and stupid for not being able to move $40k worth of meth in a single night. Or when he didn't listen to Jesse about how dangerous it was to sell on someone else's turf. Or when he dismissed Skylar when she told him that she couldn't launder $7 million in $50 bills per year through a car wash.
Walter is a scientist while Gus was a businessman. This scene was to show Walt's unfamiliarity on how to run a Drug Empire. It wasn't to show how dumb Walter was but to show that keeping his newfound Drug Empire was way more difficult then he thought it would be.
The character arc for Walt throughout the show was so well written. The early signs of his ego completely clouding his judgement, the miracles that occurred to keep him off Hank's radar and surviving multiple near death situations for as long as he did deluded him into thinking he was some sort of divine being blessed with eternal luck.
@@saqzour_content Absolutely. Mike was always a selfish prick. Not sure why everyone thinks Mike as this good guy when he was always willing to stab Jesse in the back and kill him for Gus the whole damn show. If it weren't for Walt, Gus and Mike would have killed Jesse off a long time ago. Mike puts up a good talk "its what you do hur dur" but if Walter came to Mike telling him to give a piece of the pie to literally anything, Mike would tell him to kick rocks faster than anyone.
@@renaldoawes2210 You do realize that if this was not Mike's way of handling this he would have pistol whipped Walt into being his bitch and sold him to some other big time drug dealer as Gus master meth cook to slave away under the threat of violence. Walt had literally no defenses against the raw violence Mike or anyone else who can play the role he needed Mike to play could have unleashed on him. So yeah this whole honor and loyalty crap Mike subscribes to everyone is bitching about is literally the only reason why Walt could have a drug empire in the first place.
Lmfao Mike has literally no room to talk. Had Gus not tried to murder Jesse the whole damn time, Walter never would have gone against him. But Gus hated Jesse with a passion, and Walt loved Jesse and was never going to let him get killed off like that. Mike was willing to kill Jesse at any time in the show but everyone acts like Mike was looking out for Jesse when he was really just a snake in the grass. Walt was the only one to truly care about Jesse. Even at the end, after Jesse ruined his entire life and was a rat, he saved him from torture and let him go free.
I feel like Mike extorted Walt and Jesse here. Mike was invited into the business relationship, and Mike was not transparent about the fact that hiring him included hiring nine other guys. If Mike said no to doing business with Walt and Jesse, how would this "legacy cost" be paid anyway? Mike can only pay off his old partners by stealing from his new ones.
Aaron Paul found a way for the American to love the average junkie. His "act" of nonchalance and apathy captured the hearts of those that can see the plead for empathy and regularless.
I feel like nobody watched the show. Why does everyone say Walt killed Gus for money? He killed Gus because Gus spent the whole show trying to kill Jesse, and Walter kept saving Jesse. Then in the desert Gus finally understood his plan to kill Jesse will never work with Walt in the picture, so he manipulates Jesse to work with him and tries to kill Walt. Money never left Walt's lips one fucking time. If Gus had just taken a chill pill and stopped trying to murder them he'd be alive and well right now. If anything it was Gus' greed that caused his own death. Insisting that Gale learn the formula so he could profit after Walt's death. Walt wasn't the only one with an ego.
I agree! In Mike’s case, it’s all one self-serving memory. He doesn’t want to admit Gus played a role in his own demise or that he was fine killing Jesse at first.
@@IncredibleFulk1 Couldn't agree more. Mike also pretends as if he wasn't using his "9 guys" as leverage for his own protection against both Walt and Gus. They weren't Gus' guys. They were his guys and if anything happened to Mike those 9 guys would rat Gus/Walt out quick unless they all got their money, including his granddaughter. If Mike is allowed to murder innocent people for his granddaughter, then Walt is certainly allowed to murder a drug lord who is actively trying to kill both him, his partner, and potentially his family. People really glaze Gus and Mike's morality in some weird revisionist history.
Mike was always curt and standoffish but he went overboard with Walt and went out of his way to demean him at every turn. He should have known better and heck Mike described him as a ticking time bomb. Walt is a narcissistic sociopath with an ego the size of Everest. He doesnt respond well to humiliation If only Mike had thanked him for getting him that bag ("how about -thank you" asked Walt, Mike should have heeded) , he would still be alive.
I also like how Walt gets visibly annoyed when Jesse offers to pay the legacy cost. Walt doesn't want to pay it, but his ego won't allow Jesse to make him look bad, so now he has to pay it
It is actually insane how well Jesse developped, in every way. He didn't just get better at the game ; he's learned so, so much in every field, and more importantly became an actually well rounded, stable individual, despite ACTUAL HELL breaking loose around him. There's a reason Mike liked Jesse ; kid's got insane potential. He flunked school because he was bored, not because he was dumb -- he learned better and quicker than a lot of people that are tauted as smart, and developped a solid philosophy alongside to boot. Insane potential.
Jessie was also smart enough to want money to use it. Since he still got enough to pay for any expense he wanted he did not care he made less. But Walter's ego demanded from him to always get bigger and more, so he gets pissy when his pay drops at first when he runs his own business compared to when he worked as the meth cook of a huge empire.
I overlooked that understated moment when Jesse thought Walt was actually inquiring about his personal life, only to correct him and clarify that he was actually asking about the money. What a great and subtle way to show his degrading humanity.
Reminds me of Saul explaining money laundering to Jesse. You can’t run pure profit, there’s a cost to business and keeping it sustainable. Imagine how bad it’d be if Walt was allocating the money how he wanted
They did weekly batches?! That's 39k per week for a retired cook?! 2 mill a year. each. I'd be questioning that too. Hell maybe it's the "right" thing, but I'd want to sit down and talk about it. These people are under heavy investigation by the cops, they show up with 2 mill/year and the cops are gonna know for sure, and have an extensive paper trail to follow.
@@AGryphonTamer Yeah. When I heard legacy costs, I first understood it as a one time thing. As Mike said it, to make them whole. But them from what I understood, Mike claimed that these costs will be every time. That is not making someone whole. That is keeping someone on very expensive payrole after they are efectively fired.
No. Because untill they subtract all expenditures, that pile does not belong to Jesse yet. They did this for a show, but practicaly all three piles of money on table together represents their overall income. And from this pile of money they paid back 120K to Jesse. Maybe you will understand it better if you imagine that Jesse took 40k out of his pile and put them right back into his pile. Their venture had a loan that costed each of then 40k because they are equal partners, but because the loan was from Jesse, he practicaly paid it to himself. Imagine if the loan came from someone else. Then they all would still have to take out 40k each. Only in this case since it came from Jesse, he pocketed 40k from each pile.
I think Walt is right here. Micky’s moral code that he’ll help guys if they have helped him doesn’t work. These are not good guys, they are criminals, so it’s better to have killed them rather than keep them, coz sooner or later they would’ve talked. Nachos father said it “You guys are all same”. Having a code doesn’t make a bad guy good.
Legacy cost ? Oh aint nobody got time for that shit I'd rather just put that murder game down if it's all the same to you 😅 This is where Mike had a disconnect, you cant keep paying people to keep their mouths shut, that's just not good business
I love the way this scene starts with these huge stacks of money for each of them that slowly get smaller and smaller as the reality of being drug lords sets in.
Jesse made a good point. They were cooking way more with Gus. How can Walt expect to make the same amount of money but only cooking a small fraction of what he did before
Exactly and walt forgots about 3 important things that gus had a lot of connections to sell to and a lot more employees and bigger and better machines to make more stuff
It was less about the actual and practical $ & % amounts and more about making the business HIS. He wanted to call the shots and do it his way because he’s the genius, innovator, et cetera. His ego blinded him many times and this was one of those times.
That's the point: greed is irrational.
Heisenberg's product is unique and he has monopoly, therefore lowering volume increases scarcity, demand and price.
@@redadamearth I don't think in Walt's case it is greed. Its pure ego.
4:10 went mostly unnoticed but imo it was kinda sad that jesse was pouring his heart out and walt didnt give a shit. It just shows that jesse had no one to talk to and walt only cared about the money and not about the well being of the people close to him.
Jesse was an open faucet of ham. But we all loved that ham.
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Why do you think it went unnoticed?
@@DirtCheapFU What?
Your right. It was a brutal addition to the scene. Explicitly showed how far Walt had unravelled.
For a crime boss Walt doesn't seem to understand that you always reward loyalty bc as soon as you don't then why should anyone be loyal at all.
Walter was never good at staying on top. The actual hard part of climbing to the top of the pile
@@twiliblade literally up to episode 3 of season 5 Walt had every chance to pull out and make it right, but he's keep climbing higher - the more he climb, the more depraved he became
even until is very own downfall, he's got the last laugh over everyone, Walt is the perfect combination of talents and lucks
They don’t work for him. What happened in the show would have happened in real life. Or they’d be so scared of what would happen they wouldn’t say anything. Imagine thinking you get hazard pay for working for a cartel
People talk all the time. They just rarely have enough to offer to bring the big guys down
I kind of agree with Walt here, a cartel would’ve killed to silence them. Mike was to attached, they were loyal to Mike, not Walt, they would’ve turned on Walt for a deal.
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People taking Walt's side don't realize that "because it's what you do" is why Gus was able to keep an international drug empire functioning for years without getting caught.
Gus killed anyone that was a problem.
Truth is, Mike did take Victor having his throat cut badly, since Victor was 100% loyal to Gus.
No legacy costs when you dissolve the body of the ex employee ""trouble maker"".
@@grimdeathkid i can side with Walt and still understand his character
Nah Mike didn’t give that same courtesy to Werner or Nacho and Gus’ rules always involved tying up loose ends on his side of things like with Tomas the kid gangster who got shot by the men Walt ran over. BCS really had people rooting for the side that screwed over Nacho and for nothing other than daring to kill off Hector right then and there
@@grimdeathkidexactly. Hell the writers even created the Deus Ex Machina moment with Walt’s former partners, they were offering to cover his treatment but he refused it out of ego.
Well in this instance mike's legacy cost is definitely wasted money. The legacy cost amount is not big enough when split among 9 people and keep paying them is like keeping 9 ticking bomb under your bed. Also killing them in prison will definitely make it less likely for future captured assosiate to snitch. Because it's what you do can also be applied to mike here, unlike gus, he didn't want to tie up all loose end.
Three bald men fighting over which bald man is more right and bald
Jesse wasn’t bald here.
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@@H.K.5 Bald enough and with that widows peak, he'll be there soon enough.
May the baldest man win
They're all right!
"Just because you shot Jeese James, doesn't make you Jeese James"
Walt's fragile little ego, surely felt that one 🤣
Worst thing to say to a guy who will do anything to win
Walt's fragile ego was basically the plot device for the show. If Walt just shut the f'up and swallowed his pride he could've cooked on the DL in a meth super lab and been rich.
@@raulbetancourt5795 Do you not know what the point of that line was?
Fragile?
Its hard to take words like that from a gen that shatters.
What a crock of shit, Walt was 10 times the man Jesse James was and he knew it. Mike's constant whining didn't affect his ego at all
The way Walt has the audacity to complain that his take home pay is less than with Gus 😂
its the percentages that bother him.. not the dollar amount .
The way Mike had the audacity to take hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay off “his guys” without broaching the subject with Walt or Jesse
@@Redhotshawntexas
They are the reason why Mike his people are in jail to begin with. If they just kept doing their job and didnt kill Gus they would have being fine stacking bills.
They wanted to go in business with Mike, this is the cost.
Your talking like Mike looking after his people is a bad thing
@@DutchGabbersshort sighted selfishness and greed isn’t just Walt’s specialty.
@@DutchGabbersnice strawman argument.
4:47 for some reason, Jesse's Math is even better than Walt
Jesse is smart. But Walt wants to be in the empire business.
@@jasonmartinez9051 I think one of the points of the show is how Walt has always thought of Jesse as inferior to him, even going back to the time where he was his teacher. But as the show goes on it not only shows that Jesse is, in fact, very street smart, but also smarter than Walt when it comes to dealing with people.
@@alanwatts8239 Jesse knows how to swallow his pride and take a loss when he needs to. Walter needs to be the biggest man on the block and can't stand anyone being over him. Jesse when he got clean would have been exactly what Gus wanted in a cook. He just wanted to make money, live a quiet life and take care of his people. Walter and his ego constantly ruined things, even more than Jesse and his conscience
@@jefferycrouse4652Seeing how Jesse blew everything up even though Walt gave him multiple outs later on just because he started feeling guilt over a being in this game, even though it’s stupid because he knew what this game contains, would say otherwise if he kept working normally with Gus. Skylar was right in her regard about Jesse being a a rabid dog needing to be put down.
Once you realise how big the pie is, there's the choice to enjoy the piece you get, or there's the choice of chasing a bigger share because you know there's more.
Walter's ego is so massive that he instantly decides to pay anyway just to make sure Jesse doesn't look good.
dang 😂
He decides to pay because he's keeping a façade of being in the same page with Jesse. Which he immediately drops in the last scene, not caring in the least about what Jesse's telling him
yes, that’s correct.
Thats not why. He did to keep his false care for jesse up.
it's greed not srego,
don't create newspeach
Mike rattling off fees like he's Ticketmaster
His fees are far more reasonable than that awful company
I can hear it now.
“What is this? What’s this extra $200 being take out?”
“It’s called a Convenience Fee, Waltuh”
This was so frustrating to me cause the whole reason anyone needed hazard pay was cause of Walt.
What frustrates me is how Walt complains about only 137,000 dollars of tax free money for being a chef. Even Wolfgang Puck doesn't make that much everytime he cooks.
No it’s because of mike using the lawyer to make the deposits
@@michaelsouslin891
Not tax free cause everyone has to pay taxes even drug lords.
@@rusty7984hey 🎉
Gus was so professional always and nice to Walt (Gus even won a Peace Nobel Prize), wasnt mad at him saving Jesse from the two dealers, didn't threaten him or anything, never had a problem with Jesse AT ALL (Gus absolutely loved Jesse from the getgo), and Walt simply TOTALLY WENT NUTS OUT OF NOWHERE!!🤬🤬🤬
He totally, without any reason, ruined the whole thing!💁🏻Everything was going perfectly for Jesse and Walt but Walt wanted to bee the man!🤮 Walt is truly evil and the Devil!!!1!!1
Gus is as innocent as can be, Gus gave Walt not a single reason to act out!!!
Whats wrong with that guy!?
Walt, that evil Devil, and his Pride and Ego™ simply are too much!! Ego driven babeh...
I love how Walt gets mad at costs, but doesn't consider that it took Gus Fring over a dozen years for him to set things up, only for Walt to singlehandedly destroy it all in a few months.
Yeah Walt, you didn't want the money when you worked for Fring, so don't complain now that you killed Fring.
I mean, there is no world where Fring allows Walt to live, so not like there were many options available
@@JediLordRevanwalt dug his own grave in the gus situation, if he kept his mouth shut and did what he was told everything would have been fine, if he and jesse didn’t go kill those two people that work for gus every thing would have been fine
@@hamadhamad70 He messed up trying to save Jesse, Jesse is the real root cause of all the problems.
@@hamadhamad70so it’s all jesse fault basically, walt tried to save jesse which triggered everything
Correct, that's what Mike explained to Walt in the scene we all just watched. Very good. I Love How the clip on which you left the comment
The scene shows that Mike despises and hurts Walter’s ego and thus buries the seed for Walter to kill Mike later on
Mike is such a PoS - glad Walter ended him
After it was revealed that Mike was the one who told Todd to shoot that kid I really lost a lot of respect for him.
@@saysallawhere was this revealed?
@@saysallawhere and when?
@@bloodspiller0666 it wasnt revealed anywhere, dude is talking BS
This honestly reminds me of how expenses go for my foodtruck. You see the revenue coming in but then you realize
10% in payroll (just me and my best friend)
30% in Rent and permits
30% in new stock and other mandatory materials.
30% in loan repayments
There's a reason why accountants say pay yourself first. After expenses I can only afford to pay myself a below average salary for the area and I'm still working another job to keep myself afloat. Silver lining is the truck is going to be paid off in a year, provided the engine doesn't commit die between then and now I'll be making enough that my friend and I can work it full time even if I'll personally be taking a hit to my gross income.
Free advice for anyone with a loan, the best investment you can make is paying off the principal you save so much in the long run.
I respect your struggle. Keep going if you believe in it.
Advice don't take a loan to start a business is you can. Save up money for startup capital.
@@PharoahsKingdom that's impossible for 99% of the people.
Well its been 2 months. How's the truck
Truck Truck
I think I would deduct first, divide second.
Good Point .
doing it the way they did is likely better for transparency, or else walt would do the math himself and ask why his cut is so low anyway
@@owencheung4224that's what financial statements are used for bro. The only reason why they did it like this and not thru paper and excel is for the dramatic effect.
Walt was going to raise a stink anyway. Best pull the bandage right away.
The way it was shot in this scene was excellent though. Having the big stacks of money as Mike takes portions of each is masterful framing.
When Jesse is the most mature one, you know the end is near
Jesse acting like he's watching mommy and daddy fight XD
Because he's just over it. By this point in the show Walt had put him through the wringer
@@RySenkari that's because they were
@@TheByrdWaynevice versa to be honest
@@TheByrdWayne Literally the other way around. The sole reason they were here and not cooking for Gus, was Jesse.
0:59 you see the way jesse puts his head up, once mike said legacy costs he knew walts ego was gonna go 🤯 which of course it did 😂😂😂😂
And it's totally reasonable. I mean, saying "legacy costs" out of a sudden while dealing with other people's money, what do you think would happen? Walt would just let it go, without even knowing what that term meant? I would have Walt's exact reaction too. It's not about ego, it's about getting things clear
That’s what you took away from this. Your room temp IQ is showing, smoothbrain
@@ginpak7037 i mean, mike saying "we gotta pay these guys or they have no reason to not rat us all out" is more then enough tbh xD
@@ich3730 they rat him out anyways xD
its poor communication on Mikes end imo. These costs should have been discussed before.
What I hated about Walt In this scene is how In the previous episode when he tries to recruit Mike, he even admits that their profits would be smaller (at first) but would receive a higher cut as owners not employees. Even Jesse has to correct him in that they’re cooking a fraction amount of meth then they did in Fring’s lab so there was no valid reason besides the legacy cost for Walt to get frustrated with his profit.
The Legacy cost of 300K PER COOK was not sustainable , imo and way too big of a Slice off the top .. when Mike says " my guys are an ongoing expenditure , so best get used to it" Mr White was already trying to hatch a Plan to OFF them all .. its just not doable ..
Doesn't matter because Walter was right and mike was wrong. The Guys eventually snitched
@@Josama0214
That is wrong. Those guys never said anything. Their lawyer Mike hired for their cases eventually made a mistake when depositing their hazard pay, got arrested and flipped.
The 9 guys died because their lawyer was making a plead deal. Not the henchman themselves. Mike trusted the wrong lawyer. Not wrong henchmen
@@DutchGabbers My point is that if Mike did what Walter said originally, no one wouldve snitched
@@Josama0214
Kill the guys? But the entire point was that the entire reason they got arrested was because of Walter and Jesse.. And none of them have said a single word while in there.
And there is no indication imply they would have regardless of the compensation. Mike simply was looking out for his people.
Mike investigates every person he works with while working for Gus.. So I am sure these guys are incredibly loyal.
Mike wasnt gotta let Walter kill his people simply because they got arrested and lost every single penny to their name entirely because of the actions Walter took and the heat he brought down upon them..
They trusted the wrong lawyer sure. But that dont make Walter right in his actions to just kill them
And dont forget the cut that the IRS gets, truly shows that crime doesn't pay
It does for the IRS B)
You can get away with drug manufacturing, drug trafficking, assault, murder, disposing of corpses in barrels, money laundering, but god forbid you don’t pay your taxes.
When’s the last time you made over a 100k in one deal bro😂
@@sales6556 for real, drug trade is double digit billions of dollars per year just in the USA
"I'm crazy enough to take on Batman, but the IRS? Noooo thank you!" -The Joker.
this is the scene where Walt decided to have all those guys in prison whacked. "Legacy cost eh"?
yeh
In a way it's when he became what he destroyed with Gus. Gus was the kind of guy to murder people in cold blood, hurt children, whatever it took for business, and that's one reason Gus made the big bucks. One thing Walt discounts here is I believe this was their first cook as a new business, sure the legacy costs seem steep now, but Gus didn't get to where he was overnight. If they would have ever gotten to cooking 200 pounds a week again he would have been bringing in over $20,000,000 a year, suddenly legacy costs don't seem so bad.
@@richardmorrison7741Walter didn’t kill any children you lowlife
And just because Mike wants to pay every guy 40k each every month - why would Walter do that?
I don't remember much, but Walter killing the 9 guys in prison wouldn't make him have a bigger "legacy cost"? Since he used many other guys to do the job?
@@leonardor7181 that’s a one time
Payment - not an ongoing cost
Is that so
Difficult to understand?
mike should have discussed legacy costs beforehand. he waited until this very moment to spring it on walt
If Mike had discussed that beforehand, would Walt have agreed?
Easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.
This is the exact moment that Mike springs legacy costs on Walter
still amazes me how Walt doesnt see how this is literally his fault
him killing Gus in such a way with no plans about what happens next completely backfires
Kind of left him no choice after threatening his family.
@@johnwayne8494He could have just walked away there and then. He had tons of money to give his family but he had to be greedy
Jessie asked Gus to let Walt walk away and Gus decided to do this by threatening walts family instead of you know just leaving him alone
Gus’s fault 😂
nothing is ever Walts fault in his mind.
@@sharpasacueballskyler gave the money to ted
This scene gets even more frustrating when you think about the scene later on in the storage unit. Skylar had been trying to embezzle all of Walt's drug money but there was so much that she just gave up on it and started storing it in that unit, millions of dollars of it.
And Walt was complaining about paying 9 guys just 40k a month total to keep their mouths shut.
Further proof that Walter wasn't actually mad about the money but the fact that Mike was acting like their old grumpy grandpa and that Walt has no other choice but to financially support 9 losers who got caught lmao
@@itsshrimp91 I think Walt was mad about the principal of it but also the money. I don't think he realized just how much money he was making until Skylar took him to that storage unit.
Wasn't that scene way after Mike's dead and Walt killed all the prison people and is operating basically solo with Todd volunteering and getting all the Czech Republic money?
Wth its not 9 guy = 40k / month
Its each guy get 40k / month
9 x 40k
Thats why legacy cost 351k
If its only 40k walts not gonna complain
Even saulman cut only 54k and he is not saying anything
That was later on, when their operation got better and more profitable. It’s just Mike had to always rub Walt the wrong way. Not excusing Walt’s ego, but Mike wasn’t helping his case, especially when he thought stupidly that his guys would have “honor” and keep their mouths shut.
2:23 - Jesse is like the child watching his parents fight an will say anything to get them to stop.
Why would you first split the money in three and only then pay the expenses?
To make it dramatic
For a scene to build up some tension and additional motivation for Walt to kill Gus' men.
Otherwise Mike would have to get a whiteboard, you really want to have a whiteboard scene? 😂
True it would be like an employer paying his employees all of his revenue the calling all his employees back and saying they need to give part of it back to cover costs.
Production value..
Funny part is somebody still ratted out the whole Gus operation.
Yeah, it was that lawyer.
@@kynoble ironically that was Mike's own folly. He despised Saul but could ask him to do the job instead. This is where his code backfired.
@@thedarkone9552He also had a stupid code of thinking there is “honor” amongst thieves, which clearly wasn’t the case as the show displayed.
@@MikeCobweb Yeah, Walter was pretty honorless. That's why Mike did not want to work with him.
1:40 bad posture
To be fair, he's old.
Who cares
literally unwatchable
@@Captain_TeebsI care
What's wrong with you?
I'd be pissed about the legacy cost too. Sure, they should get something for keeping their mouths shut, but 39k per cook? That's just pure insanity.
It's understandable because each of those people have entire families that need to live a good life to shut up and not talk.
Not to mention those men were loyal to Gus, not Walt, and where loyalties lie is important in drug empires. It’s partially why Max was killed by Eladio and why Jesse’s loyalty was a tug of war between Gus and Walt. Badger and Skinny Pete were more loyal workers for Walt than Mike’s men were and the fact that they got caught was on them
lmao qhat they are mikes men and are loyal to him @@todd2.08
its literally not, no wonder you people cant run a business
@@C3l3bi1 *it literally is
Walt realizes the hard way being the boss SUCKS
lol im sure thats what the super rich fortune 500 CEOs will tell you...
This is what small business owners go through every payroll period. The reason the CEOs of major companies are wealthly is because they get their compensation through stock options and equity in the company they work for. They don't get a salary like their employees because that income is taxable. They only have a salary because it needs to be in the books to verify they are an "employee" of the company.They know how money works while the rest of us think pay raises will get us to wealth.
@ashtonderojas821 the remark I made was said partly in jest but with that being said I'm iffy about the "being the boss sucks" perspective or just that phrasing in general because 1) it can easily be used (and is used) to justify unearned privilege and/or shitty behavior and 2) despite the challenges that would come with being a boss, even in a small business, it will never suck as hard as being the guy at the bottom of the totempole. So yeah something about that phrasing just kinda bugs me
@@talismanbrunski2582 Being the boss 'in a criminal setting' sucks. lol
@@talismanbrunski2582 you realize ceo's aren't always the owners correct?
The end of the scene showed off the dynamic between Jesse and Walt perfectly. When Walter asked him a question, Jesse was genuinely trying to open up and tell him about his life. But all Walter really cared about was the money, and having a Yes Man to back him up. He may have cared about Jesse in his own way, but he was using him, always.
$40k/mo for each guy does seem steep
When you're a criminal I would imagine no price is too much if it means staying out of jail
It’s probably what they were getting paid before
@@smithsj227 they could still go to jail paying them isn't a get out of jail free that's the point
It’s $1300/day, decent pay normally but that could include being executed by gorillas with biros, or worse.
To keep a megamillion dollar criminal empire going??
GTA Online heist with randoms:
It always annoyed me when they bitched while working for Gus. Gus spent so much money and time, setting up his chicken franchise. All the locations, including food processing factories: Logistics, supply and corporate. Then the millions to build the lab, getting some great people to work for him. How long did it take him to build it all? 10 years? Maybe more?
In the BCS flashback it was the late 80s and he was still in his 30s and him and Max had just started building so it'd be about 20 years.
It's amazing how a 5 minute conversation from Breaking Bad garners a quarter million views in 2024. Just shows how brilliant writing is timeless.
Over a million now.
Walt still thinking about the money😂
For walt it never was about the money, but keeping his pride intact with the one thing his ego won't let him drop and it's illegal chemistry.
😂
Walter sounded like he was about to cry here 😂 the voice crack when he said ‘fring’. 3:34
Walt is basically every greedy CEO in a nutshell.
The poor are the most greedy. All three of these guys were broke and now look at them.
@@renaldoawes2210 ha.
HaHA
Walt finds out that being the boss sucks.
The most ridiculous thing is that the money he's left with already far surpasses what he can use. He could have 10 carwashes, and it wouldn't be enough.
“One hand washes the other..” “we’re making them whole..”
“It’s what you do..”
Hollywood criminality cracks me up..😂
This is based on real life organized crime. If people know things about you that can get you sent to jail for the rest of your life; and they no longer have income because they are being investigated or actually in jail; then you pay them to keep them from talking unless you can kill them without much blowback. Jail is full of greedy criminals who didn't pay for loyalty. The Fed's literally broke the New York Families, because they could get lots of people to roll for an easier sentence. This even bleeds over into the legal world. A law school buddy worked for a waste management company, and they had old mob guys on the payroll. Legacy costs from buying the business and moving the mob out. I'm sure the same was true when Howard Hughes bought Vegas Casinos from the Mob. Even SMU had legacy costs from when they were paying players. One guy got injured and couldn't pay. They cut his payments and he talked. Brought down the whole program. Legacy costs are real.
How would it go with real criminals?
@@kashstorythe way Walt eventually did it. He got rid of them
@@davos6129 You mean the neo-nazi gang got rid of them. And then they, knowing about this one dude sitting upon a multi-million dollar drug ring without a single soldier, just go: "eh, let him have his fun, we got our cut" instead of taking over. Is that realistic?
@@davos6129that’s exactly why many in the mob turned informant
Those 9 people under legacy costs aren't cooking, but make more than any cook?
I think I'd be questioning the payments too. I think I'd be nicer about it. Walt's hostility shut down any discussion or negotiation, but those numbers are weird.
Like for one, if the cops are watching them won't a $39,000 raise suspicions? Won't that money get taken too? What was the original agreed amount, and how much are they getting now? How many batches will they continue paying them out? Why are they getting more than active cooks? Paying for loyalty makes sense, but this is a massive surprise bill.
Thanks!
Walt dealt with the overhead once and was like nope
This scene is a good example of when Mike just can't keep his mouth shut, even once he's won the argument.
If Walt had listened to Mike they might probably be still all alive
Walt getting more and more pissed each time Mike takes away another chunk 🤣
crime lord? Far better to be a galactic warlord following old rules, its like crime, with extra steps to get to crime god or CG
Legacy Cost 😂....I love how it's what gets Walt stirred up!
"Ohhh, Its what you do!"
Walter realized how much it sucks to be the boss
A moment where Walt shows his utter lack of street smarts.
OHHHhHHHHHhHHHH, Its What YOU DO ! lmao that always made me laugh
Yeah that timing and delivery was perfect!
Aaahh wire 😂
I mean tbf Walter literally had no issues until that “LEGACY COST” with six figures came out of nowhere
One thing that BCS didn't really establish is why Mike became so loyal to his guys
Walt in season five be like: ''whatever happened to this gus fring guy?''
It probably would have been less for Gus, since he was paying for a whole restaurant chain too.
The restaurant was making money too though so that probably helped
Yeah but keep in mind some of those expenses didn't exist for Gus, like he didnt had money laundering fee because he washes His money thru His restaurant and distribution fee was much smaller because again, he used His restaurant's trucks, plus he was making close to 200m per year so 40k per dude didn't feel that bad
The restaraunt itself was self-sufficient too, ya know. I doubt he'd mix any illicit funds with the publicly-tendered funds he'd get from Los Pollos.
@@itsshrimp91 lmao how did he launder His money then?
If he didn’t mix the ill gotten bills with the clean ones then that would have been bad idea as that is opposite of laundering. He wanted to launder it so he had to mix it
eveyone talks about Walts ego . fair enough. But here Mike springing legacy costs now? This should have been discussed before, not the moment the cash is being split up.
Before what? If Walt had told Mike or Saul he was going to kill Gus then Walt would already be dead.
Walt agreed to Mike handling the business side of things, and this was a business expense. 9 guys not ratting you out to the DEA is a pretty big business function.
@@tacitus6384But they should be out of Mike’s cut, because they are Mike’s guys, that he thought had “honor” to keep their mouths shut, but turned out they’d easily sing if there is no cash flowing. Mike could have killed them and he wouldn’t need to see Walt ever again, but hey, every character has its flaws in this show.
@@MikeCobweb they should be out of the group's cut, they're keeping the group out of prison, and they did keep their mouth's shut until the money stopped.
It was a fair expenditure, they honored the deal.
@@cousinpatsey2471 Mike's guys could only implicate Mike, they couldn't do anything to Jesse or Walt since they were kept under wraps by Gus. So no, it really IS only threatening Mike so it should've come out of Mike's cut.
The hairstylist did a great job in this scene.
This showed how naive, egotistical, and greedy Walt was. For someone as smart as he is, he didn't even consider how much expense go into keeping people quiet. All he care for is his status and money. He may have outsmarted Gus but he is not still not as smart as him.
I'm with Walt, they owe the men in prison nothing. They didn't launder their money right and they got caught. Occupational hazard, they want to try to blackmail being a snitch for a group they have no association with for more payments they'll squander. Had they not been so greedy and simply asked for enough to get tvs and commissary every month to make their time easier Walt would've agreed.
Yeah this part doesn't make sense. I get Walt has an ego, but this was a pretty dumb way to portray it as Walt is also supposed to be intelligent enough to realise simple maths, as well as the fact that Gus had spent over a decade to get where he was, ran several businesses as cover, invested hundreds of millions into the operation.... Plus Mike, who is good at reading people, chooses the worst possible interpretation to explain it to Walt.
I genuinely don't like the trend of deliberately making the supposedly smart protagonist dumber than your average audience just to progress a plot point and create conflict for the sake of conflict. Loved the show don't get me wrong, but there were quite a few times like this where the writing just didn't make any sense.
It's part of Walter's character. He's so convinced that he's the smartest guy in the room that he refuses to defer to anyone else's expertise even when they know better for him. Like when he thought Jesse was lazy and stupid for not being able to move $40k worth of meth in a single night. Or when he didn't listen to Jesse about how dangerous it was to sell on someone else's turf. Or when he dismissed Skylar when she told him that she couldn't launder $7 million in $50 bills per year through a car wash.
Walter is a scientist while Gus was a businessman. This scene was to show Walt's unfamiliarity on how to run a Drug Empire. It wasn't to show how dumb Walter was but to show that keeping his newfound Drug Empire was way more difficult then he thought it would be.
Should have add hair transplant cost as well
The character arc for Walt throughout the show was so well written. The early signs of his ego completely clouding his judgement, the miracles that occurred to keep him off Hank's radar and surviving multiple near death situations for as long as he did deluded him into thinking he was some sort of divine being blessed with eternal luck.
Mikes guys were too expensive need to shed some payroll there
Exactly,a liability,if it was Walt in that position who needed it(legacy cost) I doubt they would have done it
after a few years those guys would be thinking about a reduced sentence over padding their huge bank accounts further
It was never about money for Walt, only for probably a month or two. He just wanted to prove that he is bigger than Fring. And he failed at every turn
@@saqzour_content Absolutely. Mike was always a selfish prick. Not sure why everyone thinks Mike as this good guy when he was always willing to stab Jesse in the back and kill him for Gus the whole damn show. If it weren't for Walt, Gus and Mike would have killed Jesse off a long time ago. Mike puts up a good talk "its what you do hur dur" but if Walter came to Mike telling him to give a piece of the pie to literally anything, Mike would tell him to kick rocks faster than anyone.
@@renaldoawes2210 You do realize that if this was not Mike's way of handling this he would have pistol whipped Walt into being his bitch and sold him to some other big time drug dealer as Gus master meth cook to slave away under the threat of violence. Walt had literally no defenses against the raw violence Mike or anyone else who can play the role he needed Mike to play could have unleashed on him. So yeah this whole honor and loyalty crap Mike subscribes to everyone is bitching about is literally the only reason why Walt could have a drug empire in the first place.
"That's less than with Fring."
I would have walked away right there if I was Mike, knowing the kind of person Walt is.
Lmfao Mike has literally no room to talk. Had Gus not tried to murder Jesse the whole damn time, Walter never would have gone against him. But Gus hated Jesse with a passion, and Walt loved Jesse and was never going to let him get killed off like that. Mike was willing to kill Jesse at any time in the show but everyone acts like Mike was looking out for Jesse when he was really just a snake in the grass. Walt was the only one to truly care about Jesse. Even at the end, after Jesse ruined his entire life and was a rat, he saved him from torture and let him go free.
@@renaldoawes2210 Jessie was getting tortured because the guys Walter called to murder Jessie took him hostage.
I feel like Mike extorted Walt and Jesse here. Mike was invited into the business relationship, and Mike was not transparent about the fact that hiring him included hiring nine other guys. If Mike said no to doing business with Walt and Jesse, how would this "legacy cost" be paid anyway? Mike can only pay off his old partners by stealing from his new ones.
1:49 might be my favorite part in the whole show lmao
Aaron Paul found a way for the American to love the average junkie. His "act" of nonchalance and apathy captured the hearts of those that can see the plead for empathy and regularless.
"Conscience gets expensive".
Same problem when Badger got caught. But only this time it's Mike & his guys.
"That's blackmail!"
Says the meth dealer.
Jesse: “but we got a bigger piece of the pie”
Walt: No, NO! My pie, MINE ! I WANT ALL OF THE PIE, NUM NUM NUM NUM
You know Walt was really starting to fall off when Chili P is the voice of reason
Absolute insanity that mike thought he would be able to take over 100k from each of his partners with out telling any of them up to this point.
I feel like nobody watched the show. Why does everyone say Walt killed Gus for money? He killed Gus because Gus spent the whole show trying to kill Jesse, and Walter kept saving Jesse. Then in the desert Gus finally understood his plan to kill Jesse will never work with Walt in the picture, so he manipulates Jesse to work with him and tries to kill Walt. Money never left Walt's lips one fucking time. If Gus had just taken a chill pill and stopped trying to murder them he'd be alive and well right now. If anything it was Gus' greed that caused his own death. Insisting that Gale learn the formula so he could profit after Walt's death. Walt wasn't the only one with an ego.
I agree!
In Mike’s case, it’s all one self-serving memory.
He doesn’t want to admit Gus played a role in his own demise or that he was fine killing Jesse at first.
@@IncredibleFulk1 Couldn't agree more. Mike also pretends as if he wasn't using his "9 guys" as leverage for his own protection against both Walt and Gus. They weren't Gus' guys. They were his guys and if anything happened to Mike those 9 guys would rat Gus/Walt out quick unless they all got their money, including his granddaughter.
If Mike is allowed to murder innocent people for his granddaughter, then Walt is certainly allowed to murder a drug lord who is actively trying to kill both him, his partner, and potentially his family.
People really glaze Gus and Mike's morality in some weird revisionist history.
Mike was always curt and standoffish but he went overboard with Walt and went out of his way to demean him at every turn. He should have known better and heck Mike described him as a ticking time bomb. Walt is a narcissistic sociopath with an ego the size of Everest. He doesnt respond well to humiliation
If only Mike had thanked him for getting him that bag ("how about -thank you" asked Walt, Mike should have heeded) , he would still be alive.
Mike’s hubris and arrogance got him killed, he looked down on Walt and treated him with contempt even when it was obviously wise not too.
I also like how Walt gets visibly annoyed when Jesse offers to pay the legacy cost. Walt doesn't want to pay it, but his ego won't allow Jesse to make him look bad, so now he has to pay it
And Mike signs his own death warrant there….
Mike wouldn't have left that room.
It is actually insane how well Jesse developped, in every way. He didn't just get better at the game ; he's learned so, so much in every field, and more importantly became an actually well rounded, stable individual, despite ACTUAL HELL breaking loose around him.
There's a reason Mike liked Jesse ; kid's got insane potential. He flunked school because he was bored, not because he was dumb -- he learned better and quicker than a lot of people that are tauted as smart, and developped a solid philosophy alongside to boot. Insane potential.
Jessie was also smart enough to want money to use it. Since he still got enough to pay for any expense he wanted he did not care he made less. But Walter's ego demanded from him to always get bigger and more, so he gets pissy when his pay drops at first when he runs his own business compared to when he worked as the meth cook of a huge empire.
Had his eyes on the money... Rather than what he was buying.
Influence.
I overlooked that understated moment when Jesse thought Walt was actually inquiring about his personal life, only to correct him and clarify that he was actually asking about the money. What a great and subtle way to show his degrading humanity.
That legacy cost is just bullshit.
This hits way differently now that I’ve helped run a small business than when I first saw it 😂
Who knew a criminal enterprise had so much overhead?
Reminds me of Saul explaining money laundering to Jesse. You can’t run pure profit, there’s a cost to business and keeping it sustainable. Imagine how bad it’d be if Walt was allocating the money how he wanted
Shit those taxes and rentals do be eating away at income.
137,000 per week that’s about 7.1 million dollars a year cheer the hell up Walt lol
They did weekly batches?! That's 39k per week for a retired cook?! 2 mill a year. each.
I'd be questioning that too. Hell maybe it's the "right" thing, but I'd want to sit down and talk about it. These people are under heavy investigation by the cops, they show up with 2 mill/year and the cops are gonna know for sure, and have an extensive paper trail to follow.
@@AGryphonTamer Yeah. When I heard legacy costs, I first understood it as a one time thing. As Mike said it, to make them whole. But them from what I understood, Mike claimed that these costs will be every time. That is not making someone whole. That is keeping someone on very expensive payrole after they are efectively fired.
Amazing how Mike is able to divy up an odd number like $117,000 without breaking any stacks of 5 and 10k.
If Jesse fronted 120k then why did 40k come out of Jesse's pile? Shouldn't it have been 60k from Mike and Mr White?
I was wondering about that too.
No. Because untill they subtract all expenditures, that pile does not belong to Jesse yet.
They did this for a show, but practicaly all three piles of money on table together represents their overall income. And from this pile of money they paid back 120K to Jesse.
Maybe you will understand it better if you imagine that Jesse took 40k out of his pile and put them right back into his pile. Their venture had a loan that costed each of then 40k because they are equal partners, but because the loan was from Jesse, he practicaly paid it to himself.
Imagine if the loan came from someone else. Then they all would still have to take out 40k each. Only in this case since it came from Jesse, he pocketed 40k from each pile.
This Is Like the First time you See what you actually earn after taxes/food/rent/energy
Food delivery:
30 dollars for a cheeseburger lol
I think Walt is right here. Micky’s moral code that he’ll help guys if they have helped him doesn’t work. These are not good guys, they are criminals, so it’s better to have killed them rather than keep them, coz sooner or later they would’ve talked. Nachos father said it “You guys are all same”. Having a code doesn’t make a bad guy good.
When you complete a gta 5 heist online
4:30 that's all Jesse needed to know where Walts head was at and how much of a flying fuck he gave about Jesse
Legacy cost ?
Oh aint nobody got time for that shit I'd rather just put that murder game down if it's all the same to you 😅
This is where Mike had a disconnect, you cant keep paying people to keep their mouths shut, that's just not good business
I love the way this scene starts with these huge stacks of money for each of them that slowly get smaller and smaller as the reality of being drug lords sets in.
Mike is straight tripping
Reminds me of the Sopranos when Paulie tells Chris, “ welcome to the big league, kid…”
Cranston’s acting is superb, the look he gives when he notices how small his pile is getting 😂
Mike screwed them
Mike was overstepping his bounderies. He saw Walt as an idiot and if yakno idiots... They won't surprise you.