You will get it sorted. Your passion for getting her looking fit again will steer you through this disappointment period. Look forward to seeing it smashing again.
Fair play to you for putting that video up, restoration of older cars is never an easy road, plenty of people has been in same position including myself , hope you get it sorted out. 👍
Mate I feel your pain, I put MK2 Mex to what used to be Retro Sport in Perth to have work done as I was in the same boat as you with kids etc… that was about 15 years ago now and I’ve not looked at the car since as it was so bad!!
Door looks pretty good job , try moving the door forwards, even if you have to elongate the holes in the A post and see what it looks like , I'd fettle the wing to get the gap better if necessary, leaving the door alone, I'm guessing the wings are welded on. The repo doors and wings are never perfect.
I feel ya pain lah, its so disapointing when you don't get the result you want from a professional body shop. Speak to them to try and resolve the door gap issue...
Gutted to see that’s not upto standard, I’m surprised you managed to hide your disappointment to the guys who did it, I would’ve certainly had a talk to them about it and see what could’ve been done either rectify the problems or have a sweetener taken off your bill. Either way you summed it up perfectly when you said some people just don’t take pride in their work unfortunately. Dunno if you’ve got a spray shop lined up but Tony Butterworth at spraycraft in queensferry is absolutely top draw cannot fault any of his work. Chin up and keep the videos coming😎
Feel your pain John, the door skins look terrible the gaps are some of the worst av seen like the wings you used to get years ago you could spend days on them weeks even and never get them right got to be genuine parts and you ant get them any more unfortunately
At the end of the day you should get him to get the doors to fit correctly as you paid for the job repro panels often take some fettling to get them to fit properly
Nightmare. The gaps on my Cossie Viva were worse than that from the factory! 10mm added to the edges in places & 5mm removed in others on doors, bonnet & boot! I know it's disappointing, but you'll get it perfect yourself. Cheers. Leigh.
Like you said most of the work is amazing and talented but it seems he ran out of time and put himself under pressure to finish the project ... as you know and can appreciate classic cars are notoriously difficult to work on especially when they are not yours it takes hours and hours of head scratching and frustration ..... shame he ran out of time you still have an amazing car mate .. great video and at some point we have been there
Spot on , ran out of time money and patience not my field of expertise but I would have sucked it up and bit the bullet couldn't let that leave the workshop. Easiest thing in the world to criticise other people's work no easy job but you have to take that on board when you take this type of work on and go the extra mile to keep your reputation.
I understand completely, very disappointing. That’s the thing with classic cars, I have been disappointed with work afew times, annoying as I never argue on price, as you say we can’t always get the time or have the skills to do everything ourselves. I won’t have my MX5 painted because I just don’t trust anyone near where I live
Is there any adjustment on the doors it looks to me that it just needs to go up at the slam and it won't hit the sill and it will take the gap between the front wing.
Most of the work looks fine, but it seems like he made the door panels fit the old door, rather than the door gap it had to go into. Welding metal onto the door sounds like the only option to make it last and fit. I'd definitely be asking for some discount for the inconvenience of it not being done to the standards you asked for, and the fact that you, or someone else is going to have to fix it.
Add some material to the front edge I have seen a trick where ark welding rods are used nock the flux off the rods then you can have a nice metal rod that can be bent and welded in place then dressed , plus it is the same thickness as the folded door skin
A. If you agree its not been finished they should finish it until you're happy for whatevers already paid. B. Looks like he built and fitted the door without the front wing on... C. Car panels and sheet metal turns into a banana when welding, they need to either be tacked in place then welded on the car or locked in a custom jig. D. It looks like it's only had work done on the bottom of the door and the issues you're having are with the oem top part? Did he replace just the bottoms of the doors or the tops too? I'm a welder and I would never weld that off the car, tack it off the car, fit it, get it fitting perfectly then weld it up inside and outside then open the door and finish the rest... Welding it on the bench you have no idea what the heat distortion is doing. In this case making a jig first with the original door is the way to go. Finally it could just be the standard issue with pattern parts. Nothing ever fits. I suggest you forget about the modern auto paint shops and find yourself a panel beater, using traditional methods.
Totally get your disappointment, I'm particular about my cars & feel flat when things go wrong. Can't the guy sort it out as really his error & you having paid alot out for the work, or have you understandably lost faith in him ? You will get it sorted to the standard you expect. Stay positive.
I would be devestated I had similar thing happen few months ago engine blew up on my 2015 vivaro took it in some where for engine rebuild and turbo rebuild at £3,500 later it was done came back with both the head light lugs snapped abd held on with cable ties one side of bumper not clipped in properly and the fastenings ripped out I was gutted only bought it last year and as if it wasn’t bad enough I was having the engine rebuilt after 8 months of owning it they had let cow boys pull it apart paid a lot of money for it having big family and needing minimum of 8 seats so treated myself to 9 seater minibus so be many cowboys out there and no one has pride anymore and all us hard working folk paying the price cause we want the work done or need it done I am seriously gutted for you you can see how much the escort means to you 🥲🥲👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
The gaps are bad but that doorskin is not what it should be. Why not buy a good set of second hand original doors and use that. Even if they have work it will always be better than the aftermarket panels.
Like hens teeth, that pannel didn't line up anywhere that's why he took the centre line. Can you imagine trying to fit that? Must have lost the will to live especially if he never supplied the door skins.
Gutted for ya mate, my friend restores classic concourse cars which go all over world. Loves Fords too. His work is incredible, I know you would have to join the queue but trust me it's worth it. If interested in his details please message me and I'll forward his details. He is based in West Yorkshire. Keep your head up pal.
That is disgusting,looks like it’s been done by a ten year old.No way would I have taken the car away looking like that.Really hope you manage to get it sorted
That's called piss poor workmanship, either he hasn't tried the wing on with the door to check the gap,should of just spotted that door skin on the frame and tried it on with the wing and checked the gap to the quarter as well,instead i bet he has just welded that door skin onto the door frame thinking it will be Ok. Your problem is you have a large gap at the top of the door to rear quarter and a large gap to the top of the wing. Best way to do that is cut the door skin off and weld a new one on each side. Get the price of the door skins off of him it's his mistake. Nice Motor by the way.
If your not doing the wings at the same time your never going to get small gaps and if he’s skinning the doors he could have lost a few mm here and there … the door skin it’s self could have been wrong .if got a original Ford door skin in the loft and will measure when I get the chance and I’ve got 2 original wings which Iam putting on my own RS so will measure and let you know what they are .
Very annoying Jon, hard to get good people these days to treat it as a passion and not just another job. It will come good in the end tho. Any sign of the escos coming back ?
@@oldskoolmotors2802 cant wait to see it back and a review from yourself. I fitted full link to my own BT escos back in April but sadly couldnt get it firring right so waitting on a date to go to UK with it to get it sorted and mapped. Hope it lives up to the promise 😂
I know it's painful but you need to ask for some money back or it's small claims court. Maybe get a quote for the doors from someone else and ask for that back. It's an ace car though and you'll be happy with it again no doubt.
Instead of putting this video up,perhaps you should have just spoke to the guy who did the work,not collected the car,left it with him. If it wasn't right,you should have left it . . .
i travelled over a hour with a borrowed trailer and the family in the car, i had paid for the work via bank transfer at the end of each week. he had sent me pics of the car in the good angles, and also said yes doors look good and fit well. so i drove all that way to collect. told him inwerent happy with the car and got told you need to paid more for me to put it right. i had gave the fella £3.5k how much more would it have been. so gary that’s the reason why i didn’t leave it. thanks for watching the video.
Had to transfer funds before collection. pics sent to me before collection looked really good. then i travelled 1 hr with full car (kids on 6weeks hol so they came) and borrowed trailer to collect it. then go there to see this site. told him i weren’t happy he said i’d have to spend more money with him to put it right. so i loaded car up and left
@@oldskoolmotors2802 I wouldn’t of accepted it! The doors fit the shuts before hand they should of closed as the car was before. The car is way off now…
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To be fair that panel gap is better than Ford ever got them 🤣
Give Gavin Pink a shout, he knows his way around a mk2 escort 👍🏻
You will get it sorted. Your passion for getting her looking fit again will steer you through this disappointment period. Look forward to seeing it smashing again.
Fair play to you for putting that video up, restoration of older cars is never an easy road, plenty of people has been in same position including myself , hope you get it sorted out. 👍
Mate I feel your pain, I put MK2 Mex to what used to be Retro Sport in Perth to have work done as I was in the same boat as you with kids etc… that was about 15 years ago now and I’ve not looked at the car since as it was so bad!!
He did an OK job ,its hard with aftermarket panels getting it correct
Door looks pretty good job , try moving the door forwards, even if you have to elongate the holes in the A post and see what it looks like , I'd fettle the wing to get the gap better if necessary, leaving the door alone, I'm guessing the wings are welded on. The repo doors and wings are never perfect.
I'm surprised they let you take the car looking like that. They must have no shame.
thats a damn shame mate. Like you say most of the work is spot on. I would have thought the guy would put it right before handing it back like
I feel ya pain lah, its so disapointing when you don't get the result you want from a professional body shop. Speak to them to try and resolve the door gap issue...
Gutted to see that’s not upto standard, I’m surprised you managed to hide your disappointment to the guys who did it, I would’ve certainly had a talk to them about it and see what could’ve been done either rectify the problems or have a sweetener taken off your bill. Either way you summed it up perfectly when you said some people just don’t take pride in their work unfortunately. Dunno if you’ve got a spray shop lined up but Tony Butterworth at spraycraft in queensferry is absolutely top draw cannot fault any of his work.
Chin up and keep the videos coming😎
Feel your pain John, the door skins look terrible the gaps are some of the worst av seen like the wings you used to get years ago you could spend days on them weeks even and never get them right got to be genuine parts and you ant get them any more unfortunately
might be because the front wing is after market and not the door skin
Slice door with 1mm cutting disc then move to where the gap is correct then re weld
In for the next *happier* installment. Chin up lad
At the end of the day you should get him to get the doors to fit correctly as you paid for the job repro panels often take some fettling to get them to fit properly
Nightmare. The gaps on my Cossie Viva were worse than that from the factory! 10mm added to the edges in places & 5mm removed in others on doors, bonnet & boot! I know it's disappointing, but you'll get it perfect yourself. Cheers. Leigh.
Like you said most of the work is amazing and talented but it seems he ran out of time and put himself under pressure to finish the project ... as you know and can appreciate classic cars are notoriously difficult to work on especially when they are not yours it takes hours and hours of head scratching and frustration ..... shame he ran out of time you still have an amazing car mate .. great video and at some point we have been there
Spot on , ran out of time money and patience not my field of expertise but I would have sucked it up and bit the bullet couldn't let that leave the workshop. Easiest thing in the world to criticise other people's work no easy job but you have to take that on board when you take this type of work on and go the extra mile to keep your reputation.
I understand completely, very disappointing. That’s the thing with classic cars, I have been disappointed with work afew times, annoying as I never argue on price, as you say we can’t always get the time or have the skills to do everything ourselves. I won’t have my MX5 painted because I just don’t trust anyone near where I live
Is there any adjustment on the doors it looks to me that it just needs to go up at the slam and it won't hit the sill and it will take the gap between the front wing.
Had to Subscribe! Nice Vid. Nice to see a MK2 RS2000
Most of the work looks fine, but it seems like he made the door panels fit the old door, rather than the door gap it had to go into. Welding metal onto the door sounds like the only option to make it last and fit.
I'd definitely be asking for some discount for the inconvenience of it not being done to the standards you asked for, and the fact that you, or someone else is going to have to fix it.
You should have got magnum door skins to match the wings,nothing wrong with his work it’s just the poor quality panels you provided
all panels were sourced by them. thanks
Add some material to the front edge I have seen a trick where ark welding rods are used nock the flux off the rods then you can have a nice metal rod that can be bent and welded in place then dressed , plus it is the same thickness as the folded door skin
C&A on Durley estate Prenton Ask for David he's built so many award winning Escorts you'd be impressed with his work
A. If you agree its not been finished they should finish it until you're happy for whatevers already paid. B. Looks like he built and fitted the door without the front wing on... C. Car panels and sheet metal turns into a banana when welding, they need to either be tacked in place then welded on the car or locked in a custom jig. D. It looks like it's only had work done on the bottom of the door and the issues you're having are with the oem top part? Did he replace just the bottoms of the doors or the tops too? I'm a welder and I would never weld that off the car, tack it off the car, fit it, get it fitting perfectly then weld it up inside and outside then open the door and finish the rest... Welding it on the bench you have no idea what the heat distortion is doing. In this case making a jig first with the original door is the way to go. Finally it could just be the standard issue with pattern parts. Nothing ever fits. I suggest you forget about the modern auto paint shops and find yourself a panel beater, using traditional methods.
Thought you were being fussy until I saw the panel gap with the wing, that's not on to be fair
done a good job on rebuild on doors but gaps bad i wouldnt send out like that
Weld some rods on the doors
Are the quarters spot on ? Might be worth checking if they have any filler putting the doors off
Totally get your disappointment, I'm particular about my cars & feel flat when things go wrong.
Can't the guy sort it out as really his error & you having paid alot out for the work, or have you understandably lost faith in him ?
You will get it sorted to the standard you expect.
Stay positive.
I would be devestated I had similar thing happen few months ago engine blew up on my 2015 vivaro took it in some where for engine rebuild and turbo rebuild at £3,500 later it was done came back with both the head light lugs snapped abd held on with cable ties one side of bumper not clipped in properly and the fastenings ripped out I was gutted only bought it last year and as if it wasn’t bad enough I was having the engine rebuilt after 8 months of owning it they had let cow boys pull it apart paid a lot of money for it having big family and needing minimum of 8 seats so treated myself to 9 seater minibus so be many cowboys out there and no one has pride anymore and all us hard working folk paying the price cause we want the work done or need it done I am seriously gutted for you you can see how much the escort means to you 🥲🥲👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
It's a old car that had awful gaps from the factory how do you know its not the doors that aren't right
Gavin pink at the paintshop will do it properly 👍
The gaps are bad but that doorskin is not what it should be. Why not buy a good set of second hand original doors and use that. Even if they have work it will always be better than the aftermarket panels.
Like hens teeth, that pannel didn't line up anywhere that's why he took the centre line. Can you imagine trying to fit that? Must have lost the will to live especially if he never supplied the door skins.
he supplied door skins
Gutted for ya mate, my friend restores classic concourse cars which go all over world. Loves Fords too. His work is incredible, I know you would have to join the queue but trust me it's worth it. If interested in his details please message me and I'll forward his details. He is based in West Yorkshire. Keep your head up pal.
That is disgusting,looks like it’s been done by a ten year old.No way would I have taken the car away looking like that.Really hope you manage to get it sorted
Feel for u bro
That's called piss poor workmanship, either he hasn't tried the wing on with the door to check the gap,should of just spotted that door skin on the frame and tried it on with the wing and checked the gap to the quarter as well,instead i bet he has just welded that door skin onto the door frame thinking it will be Ok. Your problem is you have a large gap at the top of the door to rear quarter and a large gap to the top of the wing. Best way to do that is cut the door skin off and weld a new one on each side. Get the price of the door skins off of him it's his mistake. Nice Motor by the way.
My thought as well……he’s test fitted that drivers door, without the wing fitted….😳
2 names to sort it for you...Ben Szanto or Gavin Pink
If your not doing the wings at the same time your never going to get small gaps and if he’s skinning the doors he could have lost a few mm here and there … the door skin it’s self could have been wrong .if got a original Ford door skin in the loft and will measure when I get the chance and I’ve got 2 original wings which Iam putting on my own RS so will measure and let you know what they are .
Gavin pink would definitely sort that out
My brother had one in black 1978 model in 1985
If you show Gavin Pink this video... I'm sure he will help you out and video the car being fixed properly for u
Man up & take it back to get it put right or go through small claims, no good winging about it,get it sorted man
Not good enough fell at the last hurdle
Could it have been rejected?
Very annoying Jon, hard to get good people these days to treat it as a passion and not just another job. It will come good in the end tho. Any sign of the escos coming back ?
hi mate escos in process of last bit of mapping hopping to have it back in next week
@@oldskoolmotors2802 cant wait to see it back and a review from yourself. I fitted full link to my own BT escos back in April but sadly couldnt get it firring right so waitting on a date to go to UK with it to get it sorted and mapped. Hope it lives up to the promise 😂
pj’s had afew issues with misfires with my engine but all sorted now and just final power runs left to do.
Have you paid the guy in full ?
yes paid the fella in full before collecting the car
I know it's painful but you need to ask for some money back or it's small claims court. Maybe get a quote for the doors from someone else and ask for that back. It's an ace car though and you'll be happy with it again no doubt.
Don’t tell me you paid him the full amount if the job you’ve had done isn’t as agreed?!
3.5 grand? How much of that was materials??
£750 in panels
@@oldskoolmotors2802 wow, I’m in the wrong business.
gavin pink
Don't whine to others go back and talk to guy that done the job
Unless you can do it yourself I wouldn’t attempt a car resto again. Same story.
cheers for you in put
I wouldnt be happy with that shame you cant take it back and tell him your not 100 percent happy
Weld a welding rod down the edge of the door
sounds like a good idea
Gas welding rod
@@oldskoolmotors2802 I was gonna say weld a steel rod to it u can shape it to the gap
@@oldskoolmotors2802 use an ark welding rod after nocking the flux off they are the correct thickness and easy to shape
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Instead of putting this video up,perhaps you should have just spoke to the guy who did the work,not collected the car,left it with him.
If it wasn't right,you should have left it . . .
i travelled over a hour with a borrowed trailer and the family in the car, i had paid for the work via bank transfer at the end of each week. he had sent me pics of the car in the good angles, and also said yes doors look good and fit well. so i drove all that way to collect. told him inwerent happy with the car and got told you need to paid more for me to put it right. i had gave the fella £3.5k how much more would it have been. so gary that’s the reason why i didn’t leave it. thanks for watching the video.
That's just unexcetable, Shitty workmanship
How come you paid and took the car away?
Should of made them put it right or is that just me…..?
Had to transfer funds before collection. pics sent to me before collection looked really good. then i travelled 1 hr with full car (kids on 6weeks hol so they came) and borrowed trailer to collect it. then go there to see this site. told him i weren’t happy he said i’d have to spend more money with him to put it right. so i loaded car up and left
@@oldskoolmotors2802 I wouldn’t of accepted it! The doors fit the shuts before hand they should of closed as the car was before. The car is way off now…