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Installing EZ Snap RV Skirting - Getting Prepped for Winter Camping
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2020
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For the upcoming winter, I've decided to install RV vinyl skirting from a company called EZ Snap. I've been using EZ Snap RV window shades for over 3 years now and found the snaps and shade material have held up well. So, when shopping for winter skirting they were a natural option for me to explore.
I find price-wise the EZ Snap product falls between various DIY builds and a full custom vinyl skirting installation. It's lightweight but still strong and fairly straightforward to install. Plus when not in use easy to fold up and store.
In this first of two installation videos, I install the main RV skirting. Then in part two, I will install another taller section of skirting under the fifth overhang forming a little storage shed area.
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I used heavy duty landscape fabric to skirt my 5th wheel. At $30 per roll, it was the least expensive option I could find. It is black on one side, brown on the other. I used existing screws on the batten strips along the bottom of the walls to attach the fabric. I weighed it down with rocks along the bottom. Where I live in Colorado sometimes has 70 mph windstorms. If some of the skirting blows out from under the rocks, it's OK since that will automatically prevent the fabric from being ripped. It's easy to put the rocks back on it. So far it has lasted three years.
Ray, you do an outstanding video presentation plus all your projects are well done an professional. Sorry you will be unable to get to snowbird country! The skirting an excellent idea and cut your heating cost this winter. RR
Thank you very much! Hopefully it can help out some RVer down the road when exploring skirting options. Cheers, Ray
Thank for taking the time to make an in depth video, much appreciated
You're welcome 🙂
Thanks for the show Ray. Stay Warm. bill in Florida
I used EZ Snap skirting on my 5th wheel for 5 years in Wyoming. Held up very well and was easy for me as a single woman to install. I had the 3m snaps at first but many popped off so switched over to the screw in snaps.
Thanks for the feedback, sounds good if it can handle Wyoming. :)
@@LoveYourRV yes had somecwindy days up to 100 mph. Rubbed some paint off the metal areas but no damage otherwise.
I put that skirt on my rig three years ago; temps down to -15 f. I put 2 oil filled radiator heaters under the rig and it never hit freezing temps under there. I tried the clamps but the wind just pulled them off. I ended up making weight to lay on the skirt underneath.
Looks clean Ray.....i have seen alot of full times that used boxes and totes to fill the void...your way so much cleaner looking
Thanks, I wanted some thing that could be folded up and stored easily and reused.
zach we DOG you
Great job Ray! I’m sure that’ll take the chill off big time!
Thanks! Yup, and should dramatically reduce the chance of freezing pipes.
Looks good. Hope it helps through the winter. Good to be prepared.
Wow, very interesting. I don't have a need right now but you can never tell when I might have a need. Looks very nice when you are finished. Thank you
wow great job lots of work can't wait to hear if it helps Im sure it will keep the wind and snow out so that will be great
You make it look easy, we have spent some winters in the cold as cold as -10 F. the skirting is a must in my book, you may want to hard plum your sewer line, the hose might freeze up solid, keep up the good work.
Thanks for the tip, will have to see how it goes, most of the sewer will be under the skirting and we don't really get that cold around here, -10C or 14F is about the lowest we'll normally see. I also only dump when tanks are full.
Stay strong
Stay warm
And
Good luck
Wow, Ray, what a beautiful job and great visual and detailed instructions. Thank you! Good luck with the winter/wind coastal conditions. I am looking forward to all the other winterize details you will do and a review during and at the end of winter 😁♥️🌈.
Thank you very much!
again, knocked it out of the park, your a professional demo / review dude!!!!!! nice job Ray!
Maybe for the piping use some screws in the "T" pieces to hold it together. This way no sticky mess when you take it apart.
I like the access door.
Nice job!!
Thanks, good idea
A Cougar with a skirt! I love it. Nice job Ray. Sorry your trip didnt bring you into the states. but your making the best of it. Good on ya!
Thanks 👍
Nice job Ray. I really appreciate your DIY videos. Your work provides the final nudge I need to get started.
Nice Job Ray!
Great job! We are skirting ours this weekend. I like the cross braces of the PVC pipe idea!
Looks good. Its the stopping the movement of cold air under the rig that gives you the benefit, it won't be wicking your heat away 24/7. When I was a kid you used to see mobile homes (and poorly built homes!) skirted with bales of straw. Make sure via inspection from time to time that you don't end up with a racoon condo under there...do you have otters in the estuary? They can be troublesome as well.
No otters but there are little mink. I guess having to crawl under to get to the galley tank valve will have a side benefit. Varmint inspection. :)
Ray this was very helpful. We had a rough winter that past so even though it is only spring here in Oklahoma we are getting ideas as to how to install these things to prep for this coming winter.!
Glad it was helpful!
We installed ours with a pop rivets then with snaps on it. Works great looks great to.
Haha that pipe you have laying at first glance it looked like a septic field you were planning! Pretty small pipe for that. But at first glance that is what it reminded me of. It is fair windy here as I type so imagine you have already experienced what we are getting. Early this year I cleaned serviced and lit my fireplace today. Don't usually do that until October.
haha, yeah :) We got the big wind during the middle of last night, woke me up at 3AM, then today a few more good gusty times and lately a ton of rain. So far the skirting has held on great. So its nice to get an early torture test of it.
If you said it was 300. then a discount, I was interested. But, like the guy who said below me he used Landscape Fabric for $30. I have a 3-foot roll of House wrap that I am going to wrap around my old foam boards this winter. I also place a 1500 watt. Box Fan Heater under my Tanks, I plug a Farm 32* on "Switch" thermostatic plug into a cord then the heater, if the enclosed area goes below 32 the Box fan blows heat under the tanks. I also add some foam board to attempt to keep all or most of the hearing under the Black and Grey tanks. Add some Tape and under $50. I will have a Warm-er underbelly
An ambitious project but necessary I'm sure. We hope to be able to stay in our 5th wheel for at least another month before the frost takes away our ability to use our water.
Looks great . By he way . I installed my new landings legs today and got to unhook my truck after 6 days . Nice feeling !,,
Nice!!
Ray, if no one else has mentioned it, try some 6” landscaping “U” stakes to hold the pipes underneath in place. Hopefully they could penetrate the gravel without too much damage to the stakes and they would keep the pipes in place. I saw a 50 pack on Amazon for $10 US.
Thanks for the tip! I was thinking sand bags but that sounds easier.
No no
No Schlitz in the bumper
Schlitz is nasty beer
:D
Looks great.
Good job
Thanks for making the video Ray. Looks good. I just put an order in online this past Sunday. I think I’m going to keep my install low inline with bottom of compartments and only come up on the slides.
I wasn’t planning on staying in Montana another winter as I recently retired and was going to head south but at the last moment I was offered a job that pays well so here I stay for now and rushing to prepare for winter. I had given away all my foam siding in July..bummer!..looking forward to part 2 around the front cap.
You're welcome. :) Hope you have a good winter. Cheers, Ray
Here I am answering my own question.
Hi Ray , I installed one of those Chinese diesel heaters in my camper , it keeps it consist temperature , not like the propane RV heater , in cold weather at 34 degrees with my RV at 71 degrees inside, we used 1/2 gallon per day , I put in the 8k until in ,
The heater always runs at a slow fan speed to maintain the temperature, but if temperature goes below set point , the unit will go to a higher speeds
Stay warm..
Sounds nice, what was the cost? is it plumbed into the existing floor ducts and underbelly heating ducting? I imagine you have to get some kind of inspection for insurance? Does it smell like diesel exhaust outside when its running? Cheers, Ray
Looks great!
Looks great. Time will tell how much wind you get and how the snaps and clamps hold up. I predict they will do just fine. Thanks for the video.
Wow, sure seems like a lot of work. Hope it helps you this winter
Yeah, lots of figuring and attaching/lining up things the first time but from now on it should be quick simple to remove and attach.
Looking good should help to keep it much warmer in the rig just pull mine out of the sea can to bring to parksvile!!!
Keep the sunny side up!!
Wishing you safe passage over the mountains. :)
Excellent work Ray!
Looks fantastic Ray! Thanks for another great installation video.
Thanks 👍
Great videos! You may want to fully fill your travel trailers tires too.
Thanks for the tip, still have a few local trips planned as it doesn't get cold around here until end of November, but wanted to get the skirting install setup while its still warm out. :)
Wow! Neat as a pin!!! Good Job Ray!!
A few years back I got stuck in some -18 F degrees for about two weeks down in Idaho. I ended up having to rap my sewer hose with heat tape and rolls of fiber glass insulation, to keep ice from building up in the hose and blocking it with solid ice. It was bad enough that the RV park fresh water pipes froze underground. So we had quite the time. Not much fun. I had to keep four heaters going under the RV to keep the holding tanks from freezing. And I had the big flat holding tank heaters installed also. And then a 4 inch layer of insulation on the belly of the tanks. Several neighbors had their pipes freeze and burst. Tough winter I don't want to duplicate.
Yikes that sounds bad!
Looks great!!
I would suggest not using tape at the PVC pressure joints.
The shirt retainers should hold the PVC tubing together just fine I would imagine.
Similar to the tarp and poles set up for our family.
Yes, we have screws that we tighten hold the poles together, but it is the tarps and bungies that help the rigidity of the structure.
Also, no messy tape too to struggle with later.
Or
Take small 1/2 inch screws, pre-tax pipe, and simply screw pin the pipes at the fittings
Just my 2 cents ,
Great tip, thanks!
Very nice, always enjoy your videos looks great
Really appreciate your video Ray, the timing is awesome, as I was wondering how the EZ snaps went on and looked from a non company man installing it. :) Just down island from you.
Glad it helped
Looks nice Ray.
Nice job!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
You should use your self tapping screws to hold your pvc fittings together
Good idea!
That's a lot of work but should be worth it and staying warm is the name of the game
Yeah, I figure if I didn't getter done it would soon be December and I'd be regretting it and scrambling to come up with something in the cold and wet.
Hi Ray, Well after hearing about you getting a skirt from ezsnap I looked into it, it would have cost me $2400 minimal in canadian for the 110 ft, with hose clamps. 😱. I got a big rig.
We were in BC last year and i used roughly $1000 in LP. So I can’t justify this ezsnap cost for a roll of vinyl and some half plastic snaps.
Really wanted a skirt this year badly to help with the drafts. So if one thinks about it one still has to do all the work, or pay 4G for a custom built skirt by someone else. So after searching the net for vinyl, i found some for 110 ft for under $300, heavier material than ezsnap, but wouldn’t be delivered in time before we leave to bc, so I ended up for a quick solution, buying $95 worth of 1000 denier strength tarp, and pvc pipe for the perimeter, at a local hardware store, and ordered screws snaps from amazon. This cost me around $300 total. In comparison, there is a little more work to do, as I cut the tarp in half (length ways), pre-joined 4 pieces together with all weather outdoor tape, and to install the snaps on the material yet. $2400-$300=$2100. I’m motivated by the savings.
Bottom line, In my opinion, ezsnap is a severe ripoff for canadians. Some canadian needs to open a canadian company with the same idea of ezsnap, they can easily undercut them in their prices and still make a killing! If i can get better material for under $300 retail, imagine the cost at bulk and wholesale, the same goes for the snaps, plastic vs marine grade metal. There is definitely an entrepreneur opportunity for this in canada. Cheers 🍻
Though much cheaper, I didn't want to risk a DIY job as it may turn out looking bad and get grief from the RV park and I wasn't sure about wind, didn't want to be dealing with halfway through the winter. I know from reviews and comments that the EZ Snap material handles the high wind pretty well. Anne used to use cheaper tarps for her boat and every winter they ended up shredded due to the ice, snow, and wind, then she bit the bullet and got heavy-duty shrink wrap for 3 times the cost and it's still on there 7 winters later. I think the problem with heavier skirting material is you then need much stronger snaps to hold it up. So the EZ Snap stuff is really light but still very strong. Maybe why the premium cost. Time will tell, this winter's storms will give it a good test. You're right not many companies out there selling skirting other than a fully custom fit job. Cheers, Ray
Super detailled vid Ray - Thanks!
Will you have to worry about black tank hose freezing?
I guess you already have heating pads for the underbelly tanks?
Inside, will you augment LPG heat with electric heat?
What is the lowest temp you anticipate in beautiful BC? It can hit -35c with wind here in eastern ON.
I think I'll be fine as I only dump when tanks are full o close to it and the lowest we'll see here during the odd cold snap is about -10 or12C during the night hours and warmer in the day. Normal temps are about 2 - 6C in the winter with lots of clouds and rain and wind. My trailer underbelly is enclosed and there is a furnace duct that heats it and the tanks and plumbing down there, will also run a low wattage electric heater under the skirting. I'm not envisioning much of a problem with the mild temps we see on the coast here. I plan to use as much electricity as I can and still prevent freeze-ups versus LP gas as the electric via the RV park or my solar system is free versus buying LP gas. Cheers, Ray
Regarding the 3m glue, I am a bit amazed that the glue on the rear window managed to stay on. My thing about some glues, is that they can some times become brittle and can fall off, especially in winter. I know with my experience with suction cups, their not only affected by heat, but also by cold. I've had my gps fall off the windshield several times in the winter because of it being cold. Of course, that could probably be because that the suction cup was taken from a warm environment, such as indoors, to a cold environment, such as outside in the middle of the winter and stuck on the windshield. It's interesting that you decided to go this way Ray. I'm curious about something Ray, are you going to throw on a extend a stay valve and put in a external propane tank? Considering you and Anne are not planning on moving for a while, I thought I'd ask.
I have 2 30 lb tanks and a 20 lb tanks and a propane filler place about a mile or so away, so will play it by ear and see how much propane we go through. Temps here on the coast are much milder that inland and with free electric I hope the propane use isn't too bad. If it turns out to be a colder than normal winter I may have to get a large tank dropped off. But looking around at the people that stay here full time normally I don't see many large tanks.
@@LoveYourRV Ok Ray, I was wondering what you and Anne were going to do for heat. I know in regards to the cougar, I know at least for me, the skirting indicates no plans on immediately moving, or at least moving within a few weeks or so. Regarding winter temperatures, I heard that, at least over here in the north east of the U.S., that winter was going to be worse. Or maybe it was going to be better, I forget.
Another great mod for the Cougar!
You mentioned needing to access the galley valve. Is there any reason why you can't leave it open? I leave mine open the whole time I'm at the RV park in AZ as do many other residents.
Thanks. I've always preferred to leave my tanks closed and dump when full or near full to have a better flushing action. When they are left open a narrow drain path in the tank is used and stuff can build up on either side, dry out and harden. Over time, especially with the galley tank which gets a lot of food bits, things can build up and rot.
Another reason is I don't like to have an open path into my rig from the campground sewer system, in case of a backup or sewer flies, or maybe an adventurous rat. Also, the smell can come on and rise up via the tank's roof vent and stink up the campground. In cold weather, the constant trickle of warm water can freeze and slowly form an ice dam in the sewer hose. Anyway, those are my reasons to keep them closed. :) Cheers, Ray
@@LoveYourRV I hadn't thought of the first few reasons but about 10 minutes after I asked my question I did a forehead smack and remembered you'll be experiencing freezing temps.
Great video.
Did you get the big rain storm that was forecast for the island?
Yup, lots of wind and rain. :)
Looks great
Ray why not use landscape fabric over your pipe to hold it to the ground? I would be afraid high winds will move everything. Really looks good though. Thank you for your videos, they are very informative and entertaining.
We got some high winds last night during a storm and again today up around 40 mph, no problems, what I did was take the loose gravel from our campsite and shoved it up against the bottom of the skirting all around, blocked any wind from getting underneath. Everything was solid and quiet even given the gusty winds. :) Cheers, Ray
@@LoveYourRV Best of luck to you both, love the videos. Stay well!
I'm surprised they don't have you anchor the piping to the ground. Maybe Tent stakes with elastic strap around pipe? Otherwise you made it look easy!
So far all I've done is push some the gravel from our RV site up against the bottom of the skirt to prevent the wind from getting under the skirt and hold the pipe frame in place. Since the pipes are all connected they provide some weight themselves. I'll likely add some type of weight or stakes to the cross pipes and at the corners. But so far we had winds up to 40 mph and the skirting handled it not problem, hardly any noise or movement.
Here is what EZ Snap says in the install advice section: ezsnapdirect.com/products/rv-skirting/
Further secure your skirting from the wind by placing sandbags or cement blocks behind the skirting. Place them in the corners and a few more down the sides. Ensure that you do not weigh down the skirting, as this places a lot of extra force on the fasteners. Instead, the sandbags are there to pin the pipe frame in place and keep it from moving around in the wind.
Using other techniques run the risk of applying downward pressure on the skirting and possibly pulling it off of the fasteners or damaging the fasteners.
@@LoveYourRV Very good explanation to prevent the skirting from being pulled off RV.
Thank you! Looks how I like it, neat amd clean! Can this skirting help with New Englamd winter's under 30 degrees?
Should help a lot. I've heard from a guy in Colorado that uses the same skirt in the winter there and was pleased. For really cold places adding some foamboard behind the skirt material would help even more. Cheers, Ray
Bonus: it protects the tires from the sun.
Hi Ray sorry you guys have to stay in Canada. I was just thinking. That you may want to pick your tires up off the ground. For the winter it may save the belts from weakening. Stay safe.
They should be fine. I've spent many summers here on the gravel and just rotated them every couple months and they have been fine, There is a lot less weight on them that say a motorhome and due to wear I usually get new tires every couple of years anyway. Around 5-600 gets me a fresh set. :)
I think jacking up would be hard on the suspension as it would hang down in a way it wasn't meant to.
Love Your RV thanks Ray
Ray, since you are preparing for winter, will you still use your waste master sewer hose? Will it hold up in freezing temps?
Yes, it should be fine, its much better built that most hoses. :) Should be a great test of its durability. Winter on the coast is also much milder than most places. Not much in the way super frigid temps to deal with.
I heard they opened it on 9/21 guess that changed i was hoping for the Canadian snowbirds
They've only been making the closure in one-month increments, then when nearing the deadline they decide whether to open up or extend for another month of closure. Been going like that since March. The latest is now to Oct 21st.
Will the snaps interfere with the slide-out operation, or will they need to be removed? Of course that won’t be important until next Spring, when hopefully you will be able to travel again.
They will have clearance, I checked . :) There is a gutter piece on the slide that sticks out a bit farther. The snaps stick out less than that.
You did a really nice job on that skirting Ray, it looks professional. You mentioned that you were going to install a heated water hose, but it didn't look like the water spigot was freeze proof, does the RV park wrap that in heat tape? It's a shame you have to spend all of this money because of Covid, it's unbelievable what this pandemic has cost people all over the world.
Thanks, at the end of this month the RV park deploys little wooden box shelters for all the water spigots. I guess around here that's enough to keep them from freezing up. Cheers, Ray
Why not use white if available. My rig is white and so are the toppers.
I thought white would show dirt more and get yellowed and dingy looking over time. I thought about black for extra heat capture but black shows the dirt easily too. Gray wouldn't look good so went with the tan. Matches the browns of our Cougar.
Great video, Ray. Thank you. I'm about to do my 5th wheel with the same EZ Snap product (Toronto, Oct 2021). I love the tip about building in cross-members to the PVC piping frame. One question - once you placed the skirt material onto the studs, did you trim it above the studs? In the video it looks like at first there's 3 or 4 inches of material above the studs, and then toward the end of the video there looks like less. Was that just a simple horizontal trim to tidy up?
Yes, I trimmed it to even it out. Later I also added some 3M non residue tape to help keep the rain water out ruclips.net/video/PWOCtQDDtSs/видео.html when I took it off in the spring the tape peeled off easily but did leave a yellowed area behind it on the white fiberglass www.loveyourrv.com/end-of-winter-update-upcoming-spring-rv-maintenance-projects/ but after a few weeks of sun it returned to white again. Cheers, Ray
Nicely done. How do you keep your exposed sewer hose from freezing?
I just waited until the tanks were full or near full at least before dumping and had the hose nice and angled down to the sewer so no water would remain in it. It never gets really super frigid out here on the coast so there was no worry of the water flash freezing on the way out. Cheers, Ray
Looks pretty good Ray!! I was wondering, since you're going to to be parked for quite a while, would it be necessary to remove the trailer tires and put jacks, or blocks on the axles, just to prevent the tires from developing flat spots? Thanks!!
Thanks, I've haven't had much of an issue with flat spots over the years with my trailer tires, even after months in one spot but we are on gravel, not concrete. I'll jack the tires and rotate them a bit every few months.
Nice!
Will it snow where you are? I was hoping to find out it performs in the coldest weather. My little trailer has a heated belly, but would use this as extra protection. Kinda wanting to do cold weather glamping in the future.
Yes, average snowfall here in the winter is about 6 inches a month, some years more and some less.
You said your going to heat under your bedroom. Are you going to put a heater under the living space also?
Gonna play it by ear, I only have a 30 amp service here so not a lot of extra watts to play with. May have to burn propane instead, my rig's propane furnace has a duct that heats the underbelly. Good news is it doesn't get terribly cold here by the ocean like further inland.
Will you be heatng under the RV to keep sewar & water from freezing?
Yes, I have a low wattage heater with a wireless thermostat for down below. Will have to see how cold it gets here on the coast. Other than cold snaps it's generally wet and coolish but not so much really frigid. Our rig also has a heated underbelly via an extra duct on the furnace, part of a so-called Polar Package.
Wow seems for that money heating might have been cheaper
Could be but I didn't want to wait until mid winter to find out. :) Pretty well everyone I talked to recommended skirting the rig as the best thing to do when wintering here. Plus LP gas on the Island isn't too cheap compared to down south. like twice the price at least I'd say.
Never thought about the LP price looks like it’s turning out really good!
you could have put some hillbilly skirting on, straw bales, been cheaper, easier, and warmer
Straw bales in our coast climate would be a soggy wet mess. ;)
Hang on a sec, what are you using for reference marks for the window stickies? How'd they match up to the awnings?
I could see where the old ones came off as the fiberglass is whiter since the sidewall around it has faded and yellowed over the years.
If that were not the case, I'd have snapped the 2 parts together and put the window shades on with the sticky pad and the backer off.
The snaps can also be easily moved to different locations on the shade material as the caps can come off. It has lots of mesh holes and is a dark brown so hard to notice an old snap pin hole.
heat tape your water line
Picked up a self regulated heated hose instead. :) amzn.to/2G9scz3 Good to -40F and made in the USA
Wold pass code?
It won’t win any beauty contests... You might get some metal stakes to secure the piping to the ground...
Card board and Velcro would be better and a lot cheaper.
Maybe in a dry climate, on the wet west coast ocean climate that wouldn't last at all. ;)
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Nice!