No Ban List CEDH Gameplay | Golos vs Mairsil vs Rograkh/Silas vs Tymna/Thrasios

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
    @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Год назад +12

    Use code POGPWPDEC60 for 60% off your first box at strms.net/PlayingWithPowerMtgFactorDecemberYT60

  • @D0omsday779
    @D0omsday779 Год назад +733

    This is what CEDH looks like to people that don't like CEDH.

    • @TripsAhoy
      @TripsAhoy Год назад +4

      Hahahaha absolutely!

    • @bryanlincks8323
      @bryanlincks8323 Год назад +5

      100%

    • @True_Ronin
      @True_Ronin Год назад +12

      Your comment resolves!!!!

    • @Bjerr
      @Bjerr Год назад +2

      @@True_Ronin Was the stack empty tho?

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar Год назад +17

      @@Bjerr The comment has split second and can't be countered or targeted while it's on the stack.

  • @corey397
    @corey397 Год назад +300

    PWP - "Let's do a no ban list!"
    Zack - "Someone say turn 2?"
    Also Zack - casually Gemstones Dockside for the memes.

    • @vulkan5790
      @vulkan5790 Год назад +22

      That wasn’t even for memes! He literally didn’t need it.

    • @zealot2147
      @zealot2147 Год назад +4

      the only way it would be mana positive is if the golos player dumped 3 or 4 cheap artifacts, and even THEN in long run it wasnt good enough

    • @severinschmid6264
      @severinschmid6264 Год назад +6

      Let's not forget that obsolete tainted Pact, he already milled his whole library :D

  • @paulmcclain642
    @paulmcclain642 Год назад +142

    Zack: “Pregame action: Gemstone Caverns, exiling…Dockside Extortionist.”
    Table: “Ok sounds good gg let’s shuffle up.”

  • @embergeos
    @embergeos Год назад +132

    10:34 WIN ATTEMPT THWARTED??? 2 people haven’t gotten to draw yet! This format is wild, I love it

    • @Starkipraggy
      @Starkipraggy Год назад +5

      We haven't even reached the turn 0.5 flash hulk win zone yet

  • @Starkipraggy
    @Starkipraggy Год назад +94

    my favourite part is when zack said "it's winning time!" and won all over the table

  • @alexkonz7935
    @alexkonz7935 Год назад +164

    Zack really went full anime villain on this one.

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar Год назад +3

      Well, he is playing Mairsil, who is an MtG villain, so...

  • @windy7820
    @windy7820 Год назад +115

    Ah yes, I love watching 100-card singleton Vintage.

    • @Frommerman
      @Frommerman Год назад +17

      This is worse than that. Vintage players get a maximum of 1 commander, which they must always pay 3 extra for and can only play once. These fine gentlemen got 3.

    • @fabioarturospada4178
      @fabioarturospada4178 Год назад +10

      @@Frommerman It's also why the heavy mulligans aren't as punishing here. Your starting hand size is 10 is you have partners and lutri.

    • @DiabloTommaso
      @DiabloTommaso Год назад +4

      Canadian higlander (is the name of what you are refering to) is way more fun cause it has a point sistem

  • @Jay15199
    @Jay15199 Год назад +127

    I love the no ban list games, but I wish someone would use the opportunity to build a unrestrained stax list to keep the turbo lists in check.

    • @alexzander7629
      @alexzander7629 Год назад +46

      I agree but sadly Stax is just to slow. With so many ways to cheat out powerful cards and combos in such a short time span, the chance of the Stax player having anything set up in time is super low

    • @nebDDa
      @nebDDa Год назад +25

      Nobody is brave enough to make a braids cabal minion deck

    • @tking5218
      @tking5218 Год назад +9

      Turbo is so much more lucrative with the Moxen.

    • @energeticgorilla
      @energeticgorilla Год назад +6

      @@nebDDa it really just isn’t as good as it seems in cedh. it was banned for being unfun, not necessarily for its power. in cedh the plethora of 0 and 1 drops means it will set your opponent behind a teeny bit, but it wont really destroy a game.

    • @Jay15199
      @Jay15199 Год назад +1

      I agree with everyone in the thread. Turbo is the more practical list, given moxen and other broken cards, but it makes the decks' diversity more homogenous.

  • @alphonse2234
    @alphonse2234 Год назад +28

    I am convinced they played until Zack didn’t win.

  • @paulgoodridge2269
    @paulgoodridge2269 Год назад +14

    I love it with games like these that prove why these cars were banned in the first place, just a bit too much for the format.

  • @alphonse2234
    @alphonse2234 Год назад +13

    CEDH shows how important turn order is in deciding who wins.

  • @martynass
    @martynass Год назад +9

    Thank you PWP for doing these! There are a lot of people who are questioninga ban list and various cards from it, claiming half of the banlist is irrelevant. This is a great presentation, that everything in banlist is relevant 😂

    • @Starkipraggy
      @Starkipraggy Год назад +1

      everything is a stretch, no one played coalition victory or balance :(

    • @donaldduck6790
      @donaldduck6790 Год назад

      Apart from sundering titan lol

  • @Dubhats
    @Dubhats Год назад +19

    Countering that Summoners Pact was such a bad move it hurts me, if he had just countered the incoming Flash he would have effectively taken him out of the game

  • @koba163
    @koba163 Год назад +62

    "Can we just keep playing until someone but Zack wins?"

    • @bgeda
      @bgeda Год назад

      It’s hoe their regular banlist games go too haha

    • @chocolateking1143
      @chocolateking1143 Год назад +2

      LOL he was just playing solitaire.

  • @OzDawg1333
    @OzDawg1333 Год назад +33

    No ban list cEDH is just so sick hahaha I never realized how op Griselbrand is in this format. Also was surprised to only see one time vault win!

    • @canno93
      @canno93 Год назад +12

      There were two time vault wins. One with Zack and Griselbrand and one with Chad and Golos

    • @jgroen5545
      @jgroen5545 Год назад +1

      You can remove the "in this format" part of your sentence and it will still be true.

  • @mrmrmeta3698
    @mrmrmeta3698 Год назад +18

    Always brightens my day to see playing with power videos

  • @Its109TheGamer
    @Its109TheGamer Год назад +2

    There's not a lot of no ban list cedh on youtube, so I'm glad to see you guys put a video up on it!

  • @madazander
    @madazander Год назад +6

    These games are wild! Absolutely love seeing these videos every now and then. But it is also a really good showing for why these cards are banned lol

  • @smlvalentine
    @smlvalentine Год назад +5

    Love these videos, especially the NBL ones. Thank you for getting these together.

  • @tntkaboomsky7427
    @tntkaboomsky7427 Год назад +6

    Ayo a Lutri video??? Now this is gonna be good!

    • @paulgoodridge2269
      @paulgoodridge2269 Год назад +1

      There's a reason why that card was banned and commander. A free 101 cards for having those two colors is a bit much.

  • @RGCDTB
    @RGCDTB Год назад +4

    This is the first time I felt like I never needed to know what people were drawing I'd look at opening hands and be like oh so you're going to win

  • @Xerxaxify
    @Xerxaxify Год назад +16

    Thanks for the 5 games! I love watching no ban list commander! Great video all together.

  • @Pyroshax
    @Pyroshax Год назад +2

    Very powerful stuff! I think I'd like to see what CEDH would look like with, not necessarily NO banlist, just exploring some cards on the banlist that people don't have a good idea how they'd function in a CEDH environment. Golos + Karakas was a more interesting take than reanimator turbo. In the outro, it's mentioned that "many of us are so far removed that we don't realize just how powerful these cards really are in practice". Every once and a while, yeah, we'll see someone say Griselbrand should be unbanned, but I don't think many people at ALL would argue that mox+black lotus should be unbanned. This episode, while an entertaining showcase of banned cards in its own right, is certainly no rebuttal to those who say cards like primeval titan or coalition victory should be unbanned. I'd like to see what CEDH looks like when allowed to stay in-between legacy and vintage, rather than just full-blown vintage.

  • @Sliplinerr
    @Sliplinerr Год назад +6

    I would be interested to see this with a stacks deck to see if they can actually ever take a choke hold on the game or if it is just too fast

  • @Darkogazza
    @Darkogazza Год назад

    These are far and away my favorite videos. Glad you guys don't do them too often because they're so ridiculous, but I still love seeing just how unhinged this game gets.

  • @Simonk_6
    @Simonk_6 Год назад +2

    I’ve been waiting for another one of these!

  • @AnomAnomMTG
    @AnomAnomMTG Год назад

    The fact that it just goes "he cast a he cast a" and all of them were the exact same tone and cadence is hilarious to me

  • @cooldes4593
    @cooldes4593 Год назад +1

    Zack with the HAT TRICK +1

  • @pollywop6339
    @pollywop6339 Год назад +2

    Definitely need to do more of this every now and then

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar Год назад +4

    The thing I love the most about these no banlist games is that I can shove them in the face of everyone whining about banlists. 🙃

    • @chocolateking1143
      @chocolateking1143 Год назад

      Agreed. Some people literally don’t understand if the cards were not banned it’s a turn 1-2 clock non stop. Lol

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful Год назад

      I think people are mostly contesting whether cards like biorhythm or coalition relic should be banned - not moxes and time vaults.

  • @smlvalentine
    @smlvalentine Год назад +1

    Okay - had to comment again: this video is such a gift!! It just keeps going!!

  • @ChrisMcGiggity
    @ChrisMcGiggity Год назад +1

    Woooo grixis!! Let's gooooo!
    Definitely wana see more no ban list this was great to watch

  • @jayceehampton8031
    @jayceehampton8031 Год назад +1

    Another No-Ban List Commander game?! Let us freaking GO!!!

  • @tking5218
    @tking5218 Год назад +2

    Moxen with Yawmoth's Bargain and Grislebrand is just ridiculous. Makes Ad Nauseum and Necropotence decks look like child's play

  • @eamonworden4369
    @eamonworden4369 Год назад +1

    Would love to see some banned commanders like Griselbrand or Emrakul, maybe even in a regular vid with the special rule being any commanders?

  • @Magsz_
    @Magsz_ Год назад +1

    “You know what…let’s go into the next game” 😂😂😂

  • @Joshua-no3vh
    @Joshua-no3vh Год назад +1

    That third game when he went to 4, i was so wishing someone was running a shock or lightning bolt to copy with lutri lol

  • @Cavemanconnman
    @Cavemanconnman Год назад +3

    I love no ban list cedh. So much fun!

  • @edwardrodriguez9624
    @edwardrodriguez9624 Год назад +1

    Tbh this just shows the power of Thassa's Orcale Consultation combo. That even at the peak with no banlist its stil by far objectively the best wincon in commander

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful Год назад

      Flash hulk is stronger - it can win turn 0 instant speed. This is a very small sample size of games.

    • @voluntarism335
      @voluntarism335 Год назад

      @@wchenful time vault + key is actually the strongest combo in the game

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful Год назад

      @@voluntarism335 Why is it the strongest combo in the game? It requires two pieces to be resolved at sorcery speed, and 4 mana total to activate. In comparison, Flash combo is 2 mana at instant speed and can be cast t0 using Gemstone Caverns + Spirit Guide before any opponents have even played a land or in response to an opponent's attempt to go off. Also, Flash is blue which means redundant copies can be pitched for Force of Will and Hulk can be tutored for 0 with Summoner's Pact.

    • @voluntarism335
      @voluntarism335 Год назад

      @@wchenful you need 4 cards in hand to be able to pull off that turn 0 win, and someone can just force of will/force of negation/their own gemstone caverns + dark Ritual + opposition agent in response

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful Год назад

      @@voluntarism335 That's fine, even without the t0 win, its a 2 card combo at instant speed vs. time vault + key which is a 4 mana sorcery speed combo, where neither piece pitches to force. It's straight up weaker.

  • @WiiTara
    @WiiTara Год назад +2

    Amazing

  • @maxmustermann1111
    @maxmustermann1111 Год назад

    This is the ultimate: "Here is why fast mana is stupid and a banlist is good" video :D

  • @Xplayer007
    @Xplayer007 Год назад +1

    Nice to see a true no holds barred pod!

  • @johnb3427
    @johnb3427 Год назад +1

    Exxon doesn’t even make GAS ⛽️ this high test 🔥 that’s a circa ‘93 inception player’s style of play. Many busted cards made, and now collecting VALUE with a side of dust

  • @LhynkalTheFool
    @LhynkalTheFool Год назад +1

    I love how ridiculous the matches were, everyone entombing Griselbrand and drawing 30 cards or having 5 mana rocks on turn 2

  • @MintyMagicMTG
    @MintyMagicMTG Год назад

    Geez Ryan’s hand/first two turns in game two are insane

  • @MrDancingrobots
    @MrDancingrobots Год назад +1

    The hardcast Fierce Guardianship, that was spicy

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy Год назад +2

    No ban list is so dirty! Gotta love it 😉

  • @thejewishpeople1970
    @thejewishpeople1970 Год назад +1

    Phillip relly got to play some magic here

  • @UruzzTyrsson
    @UruzzTyrsson Год назад +1

    That was absolutely awesome to watch.

  • @patriciopoirrier3287
    @patriciopoirrier3287 Год назад +2

    Love this channel. CEDH Magic is just amazing 👌🏻

  • @didiez8678
    @didiez8678 Год назад +1

    I loooove the « no banlist » soooo much !!!

  • @kif3921
    @kif3921 Год назад +1

    Saw a 17min vid and thought oh so not much different from normal, boy was I wrong.

  • @jaredsmith6565
    @jaredsmith6565 Год назад +1

    Also, really funny that Thoracle won so many games XD

  • @alemorikec
    @alemorikec Год назад +5

    These are an absolute blast to watch.

  • @jonaswilliams9755
    @jonaswilliams9755 Год назад

    The Coalition Victory on the side is very funny.

  • @jaredsmith6565
    @jaredsmith6565 Год назад +1

    Love the no banlist games, when will someone cast Sharazard though lol?

  • @phillipspeers9140
    @phillipspeers9140 Год назад +3

    Would like to see a Leovold list in no ban cEdh

  • @MISFITSERAPH
    @MISFITSERAPH Месяц назад

    I would love to see an updated no banlist game. I'm working on a leovold list myself and would appreciate seeing more alternative content

  • @SimoneCasuSaber
    @SimoneCasuSaber Год назад

    God this format is so absurdly fun ahah

  • @shatterspree4123
    @shatterspree4123 Год назад +1

    Chad’s decision to not pyro the rhystic made me angry in that last game, but realizing that it was bait was actually really smart. huh.
    Also a mull to 4 where ancestral is bottomed??? What is the reasoning for that??

  • @smitchy657
    @smitchy657 Год назад +1

    That was ridiculous! 🤣

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy Год назад +1

    Wow someone had a good day!!!! Nice!

  • @Varler_
    @Varler_ Год назад

    That was really fun. What the heck!
    (What about cEDH but silver border cards are legal? There are some pretty busted Un-cards.)

  • @hydracollector3588
    @hydracollector3588 Год назад +1

    you guys should bring this NBL games at least once per month
    we do like this kind of content

  • @0k819
    @0k819 Год назад +1

    honestly if this taught me anything about the banlist its that thassas oracle should go

  • @wesleymclain9146
    @wesleymclain9146 Год назад +1

    Absolutely love the no ban list games, they're pretty flashy. I'll see myself out.

  • @gutsbadguy50
    @gutsbadguy50 Год назад +2

    So, vintage if countermagic was restricted and life payments mattered even less.

  • @taidokax7562
    @taidokax7562 Год назад +1

    What I have been waiting for!

  • @chronics23
    @chronics23 Год назад +1

    I love no ban lists games so much

  • @noahvoght8522
    @noahvoght8522 Год назад +1

    Let’s give it up for the narrator😂

  • @bryanlincks8323
    @bryanlincks8323 Год назад +2

    I blinked and missed it all

  • @tobynorris
    @tobynorris 7 месяцев назад +1

    ''Not a single game went past turn 2'' Welcome to the Yugioh experience

    • @GodzillaFreak
      @GodzillaFreak 6 месяцев назад

      In yugioh that's like turn 8

  • @sorafowler4497
    @sorafowler4497 Год назад +1

    I want more of this!

  • @vinwonsenobi
    @vinwonsenobi Год назад +1

    If it's no Ban list I think people are missing a golden opportunity to play Richard Garfield Ph.D

  • @keller3225
    @keller3225 Год назад

    Just here to say I like seeing NBL content

  • @maku175
    @maku175 Год назад

    That's right Chad you take that mantle from Zack

  • @nintendocal5767
    @nintendocal5767 Год назад +1

    Another excellent episode!

  • @dawidwidera1819
    @dawidwidera1819 Год назад

    Just like Richard Garfield intended.

  • @MrPhantomPC
    @MrPhantomPC Год назад

    Chad playing Golos. Based. RIP pilgrim.

  • @Jensees901
    @Jensees901 Год назад

    Holy cow, this was insane haha! Love it.

  • @jaredsmith6565
    @jaredsmith6565 Год назад +2

    Might be a bit of a controversial opinion but I feel like No Ban List should also play with the original companion rules

    • @rockdeworld
      @rockdeworld Год назад

      Personally I think this is better. There’s a lot of old rules in Magic that you could choose to go back to. Keeping it strictly about what’s on the ban list is simple as well as interesting.

  • @089Memo90
    @089Memo90 Год назад +1

    What an episode !!! 🔥♥️

  • @generic_sauce
    @generic_sauce Год назад

    With no ban list, the C in CEDH stands for crazy! 🤯

  • @Erik_Sjostrom
    @Erik_Sjostrom Год назад +1

    Someone says: Lets play cedh with no bans.
    Soemone else says: Yeah I would like to play that because I really like it but I like my wallet more.

  • @joebaumgart1146
    @joebaumgart1146 Год назад

    I would just use Emrakrull, The Aeons Torn as my commander and equip her with Eldrazi Conscription, Grafted Exoskeleton, and Swiftfoot Boots. Then cast time walk to kill everyone immediately. By using Black Lotus into 3 Dark Rituals, an Eye of Ugin, and forsaken momument with wastes I could bring her out as early as turn 3.
    Also Thassa's Oracle combo. T0 win.

  • @pepperonization
    @pepperonization Год назад

    Zack is on FIIIREE!

  • @MindLaboratory
    @MindLaboratory Год назад +2

    Would love to see turn 1: mox, mana vault, ancient tomb, black lotus, trinisphere. Sit back and laugh.

    • @willhunting139
      @willhunting139 Год назад

      Imagine someone else just plays time vault with mishra's workship on turn one, turn two, land voltaic key, infinite turns

  • @harrisonlake9506
    @harrisonlake9506 Год назад

    So much fun to watch, if i could afford idd make these decks

  • @Lykrast
    @Lykrast Год назад

    I love how Lutri is there

  • @garrettwilson2624
    @garrettwilson2624 Год назад

    yippe, needed some commander content

  • @benbarclay4239
    @benbarclay4239 Год назад

    Why does it feel like phillip was not playing the same game as everyone else lol

  • @PhazonOmega
    @PhazonOmega Год назад

    Turn 2 win? Still not as fast as that turn 0.5 win with Inalla from a while back. I love watching cEDH.

  • @Joolenplus
    @Joolenplus Год назад

    I'm surprised bribery isn't in any of these with griselbrand in the format. Another 5 Mana 1 card win. The floor is getting dockside or hullbreacher if griselbrand is out of the deck.

  • @kingfuzzy2
    @kingfuzzy2 Год назад +1

    Hope to see a turn 1 time vault win

  • @JohnSmith-hs9ez
    @JohnSmith-hs9ez Год назад

    16:02 why didn't he spirit guide to just counter the rystic? He would have had more of a chance of it resolving

  • @DraconisMarchVII
    @DraconisMarchVII Год назад +1

    These matches prove how busted Coalition Victory really is.

  • @munsulight721
    @munsulight721 Год назад

    Those games are the perfect example of why Yawgmoth Bargain and Griselbrand are banned. Also, who knew that Vault Key is good ;) I do love NBL cEDH but damn those games feel like coinflips

  • @johnyedinak1180
    @johnyedinak1180 Год назад +1

    Thus was amazing

  • @jormungardwe
    @jormungardwe Год назад

    mairsil can cage time vault, wouldn't it be a better option all of the time?