Dr Martin Lloyd Jones Book of Holy Spirit Baptism: hcf-india.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/The-Baptism-and-Gifts-of-the-Spirit-Dr-David-Martyn-Lloyd-Jones.pdf David Wilkerson Sermon on the Baptism of the Holy Spirit: ruclips.net/video/ZoYDn9I8GgU/видео.html
THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT happens the moment you are born again by believing the true gospel. " ...born of the Spirit. "--John 3:3,8 "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body..."--I Cor.12:13 Believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit forever !! see Ephes.1:13,4:30 THE FILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is different, it happens after we are born again when we stay in fellowship with Almighty Jesus by obeying His word, and by asking to be filled !! It is the power from on high, power for soul winning !! "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit." --Ephes.5:18, 19-21, " And when they had prayed...they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." --Acts 4:31,33, Acts 11:22-24, Luke 24:47-49, Luke 11:13, I John 3:22, Matt.7:7,8, Zech.4:6
I grew up in a Pentecostal church where the focus was on the gift of tongues (which I know is a true gift for many), but for me, the Holy Spirit convicts me and reminds me of things that are not pleasing to God. He reminds me to back up, regroup, and do better each and every day. He is a teacher and helps us endure until the end.
I'm an ex neo-vedantic (hindu roots) new ager. I used to be into so much "cosmic/spiritual" stuff: trance channelings, ancient wisdom, gnosticism, psychedelic drugs, hindu gurus and buddhist variants. I was illuminated by the *kundalini (serpent) spirit* then 8 years ago I got rightly enlightened by the *Holy Spirit* ..... it came out of the blue, quite a while after praying for Truth ABOVE all else..... Spirit led me to the REAL *Yahusha/Jesus Christ* and everything changed - *Paradigm Shifted* ..... This is being *BORN AGAIN* and it's an ongoing surprise to me 😁
That’s not the gospel ! Were is the repentance of sin ? You speak of some non biblical esoteric experience which you will find nowhere in scripture. John 14::6
I never had an overwhelming experience that made me lose control or speak in tongues or prophesy, but i love to witness and actually i think that sharing the gospel and sharing Scripture at appropriate times is a kind of prophesying
I was filled/baptized with the Holy Spirit 5yrs ago. A year later while going through extreme spiritual warfare, I started praying and asking God, why this was happening, I immediately felt something in my mouth. I started praying in tongues(mysteries in the Spirit 1Cor 14:2) it was completely supernatural!!(private prayer language so different function than the tongues in Acts 2) I had no idea this gift was even for me and didn’t even know it was real. The Holy Spirit gave me this gift in my time of need to fight the enemy. The gifts of the Spirit are extremely important!! God is so good!! 🙌 There are 3 types of different functions for the gift of tongues. Signs for the unbeliever; Acts 2 at Pentecost actual languages that led people to Christ because they heard the gospel in their own language. Private prayer language; 1Cor 14:2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.(doesn’t edify the church, edifies you because you’re praying the Father’s will back to him. Then tongues with interpretation. This is someone giving a word in an unknown language and another person interpreting. This would act as a prophecy because it edifies the church. 1Cor 2
Look at all of 1st Corinthians 14 and not just the one verse this guy cherry-picked. It clearly doesn't support what he's saying, so don't fall for it.
Great Video and i totally agree . I was baptized in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gave the utterance of course after i was Born Again and yes it gave me the boldness to witness and also the power for living. The Holy Spirit led me into all truth and kept me from being deceived by the wolfs in sheep clothing (TV prosperity preachers ) Sadly so many deny the real power of the Holy Spirit in their lives and also many Christians ministries do not welcome the Holy Spirit . Just show a form of godliness ,but deny the power thereof .
The Gift of " Tongues" is an actual Lamguage, not gibberish. People from all over the Roman Empire spoke other languages, and they heard The Gospel in their language. Acts 2 & 3.
Very well done brother. And I always love the way you always make the point by using the scriptures, which is how it should be done. May God bless you and the ministry He has given you.
First thing that I have disagreed with you on Caleb , sealed once , filled often. Not a salvation issue but Pentecostals and charismatic’s would often try to make you feel like a second class Christian with this error .
It seems that so many focus on self empowerment rather than for ministry. Having to prove yourself worthy by displaying one particular gift . Paul diminished self edification on favor of edifying others. Gifts was added to scripture for readability , therefore we should persue what is spiritual. Also prophecy is not just for telling the future but also forth telling.
I have also seen this in the area we live. In my opinion, I feel like the leaders in most of the “Pentecostal churches”, are just shallow/unlearned leaders. Which always leads to a lot of fire in the wrong direction. The Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a gift, one that is received. Anyone who has received has been empowered for ministry, all sorts of ministry. I always found it interesting how that most faithful church members would fight you over Jesus, 😂, but ignore the last command of Jesus to His followers which is: “Tarry in Jerusalem until you are filled with Power from on high”.
Caleb, you are in a very special SMALL group of apologist on RUclips that RIGHTLY handles the Word of God in a very clear, concise, and effective manner. When someone asks me questions regarding subjects you've covered, I send them to you. You truly are every man's Bible teacher. I pray God continues to bless you and your wife as you both endeavor to communicate God's love for his people.
Well Caleb, I respectfully have to disagree with you on this point. A.One aspect of the holiness doctrine is the concept of three works of grace: salvation, sanctification, and the baptism in the Spirit. B.William Durham suggested there weren’t three works of grace, but only one work of grace, shown in two ways in our lives. He did not believe in the so-called second work, namely, sanctification[which is done upon the New Birth]. He taught that believers were saved and then baptized in the Holy Spirit; ** Note: This is a simultaneous event, not two separate events. -At the baptism of Jesus, there is a prediction of a future baptism in the Spirit. -Baptism in water is for[because of] repentance; baptism in the Spirit takes place the moment a person becomes a believer in Jesus Christ as there Lord and Savior, which also includes a repentance from their former manner of life.
The question remains: When is a believer baptized in the Holy Spirit? The answer is in scripture in: Romans 8:9. “You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.” The last sentence of this verse in Romans 8:9 makes it very clear that by the time Paul wrote Romans, all believers had the Holy Spirit. Compare the following: Jn.14:16-17; Rom.8:11; Gal.4:6; 2Tim.1:14. That has to mean that all believers receive the Holy Spirit at the point of the new birth. See John 3:5. There were exceptions at the very beginning of the Church Age for two major reasons: 1)obviously, because many were already believers and therefore needed to receive the Spirit by other means than salvation which they already had; 2)because of the necessity of establishing the authority of the apostles (who were given to mediate the Spirit by means of the laying on of hands), 3)because of the need to bring about the transition from the leadership of Israel to the flooding in of the gentiles into the Church; 4)a certain amount of gradual, step by step movement was necessary (i.e., Jews [Acts 2], to Samaritans [Acts 8], to gentiles as exceptions [Acts 10], to gentiles as a rule).
@@iThinkBiblically William Howard Durham was an early Pentecostal preacher and theologian, best known for advocating the Finished Work doctrine. The term finished work arises from the aphorism "It's a finished work at Calvary", referring to both salvation and sanctification. [Finished Work Pentecostals and Holiness Pentecostals are the two main branches of classical, trinitarian Pentecostalism. The dispute surrounding it was called the Finished Work Controversy which split the Pentecostal movement into Wesleyan and non-Wesleyan doctrinal orientations, known respectively as Holiness Pentecostals and Finished Work Pentecostals. I was a Pentecostal for about 35 years and left the denomination about 10 years ago. I was ordained as an Ordained Bishop in 2011. I have studied this doctrine for a while and have come to the conclusion that the Pentecostal doctrine of a Second Word of grace, that is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is contrary to the Scriptures, as Ephesians 4:4-5 indicates. It is my contention that one is Baptized by the Holy Spirit when they become a true believer in Jesus Christ and His gospel. It is not a second work of grace as some believe.
Great video. You did thought biblically. I believe your right. At the end of the day. Its the Holy Spirit that will allow us to understand Gods Word, so all brothers and sisters lets cling unto him. Amen
I've an issue when people conflate this up with salvation. There is of course a link between this. But I think it's because the gospel is mostly handled retarded.
This is not a simple question. From Romans 8:9 we learn that if someone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to him. So all saved believers have the Holy Spirit. In Matthew 3:11 John the baptist prophesies that Christ will come to baptise in the Holy Spirit. In Acts 1:5 Jesus himself tells the disciples that they will be baptised in the Holy Spirit. Then in Acts 11:16 Peter remembers that the Lord had said they would be baptised in the Holy Spirit. Then Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 12:13 that we have all been baptised in one Spirit into one body. In each case the Greek words used are "en pneumati". For some reason this is translated as with or by in some versions. But it's clear to me that all believers are baptized in the Holy Spirit. But as brother Caleb points out, it seems that we can be filled with the Holy Spirit at some times more than others. Indeed Paul exhorts us in Ephesians 5:18 to be filled with the Holy Spirit, which implies that we can be less filled or more filled. In my view, the big error is in charismatic and pentacostal circles where some pastors and believers insist on a separate baptism of the Holy Spirit in addition to receiving the indwelling of the Holy Spirit when we believed, which has to be manifested in some way, such as by speaking in "tongues" which don't correspond to the biblical tongue speaking in Acts 2. This leads to frustration on the part of those who recognise that they haven't received this supposed second blessing, fakery by people talking in gibberish to show they have received the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and elitism on the part of those who believe they have received a special blessing that the others haven't received.
But "tongues" today should be a recognisable language ... not the counterfeit gibberish we often hear. There can be no counterfeit unless the real exists.
@@Ancient-Paths The main reason I believe is satan absolutely despises those who pray in the Holy Spirit why!..because the angels of God are advancing in the kingdom of darkness!...Keep praying my brother we need the sons of God up on that front line...God bless.
Caleb, your delivery, demeanor, position and presentation of content is a gift from God! I hope you never take that for granted. I have many testimonies about the Baptism in the Holy Spirit, leading up to my experience and a host of other’s experiences. As amazing as our God is, there isn’t one instance in hundreds of people who were spirit baptism that was identical. So, to the inquisitive seeker first, there is no “recipe” to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit outside of 1) Believing 2) Seeking. God creates a special unique and personal experience for every single person. I used to ask folks this question: Are you a disciple of Jesus or a disciple of John. Everyone unanimously claims Jesus. I then ask them if they have received the Baptism in the Holy Spirit and the answer is almost always no or, “I got all the spirit when I got saved, etc…”. The only difference in John’s and Jesus’ disciples is the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. Many people have never considered the fact that Jesus “never baptized the first person in water”. Jesus only baptizes with the Holy Spirit and fire. Seeker, study the Holy Spirit, search for His work, believe that God has prepared something special just for “You”! When it happens, share your story!
Great Video Caleb! 👍 may I share this too: in John 20:21-22, Jesus breathed on his disciples and said “Receive the Holy Spirit”. At that moment they were born again according to John 3:5-8, they have become a new creation (2 Corinth 5:17). Then on Pentecost they received power from on high, (baptised by Holy Spirit). We must be very careful not to covet this event; the LORD will give power to whom He wills! We must be thankful that He gives us His Holy Spirit, which is more than enough….. 🙏. 1 Corinthians 12:13 says we are all immersed into One Spirit, One body! Wow Hebrews 10:15-17 = Jeremiah 31:31!
Ask yourself this question: is it possible to be born again and not receive the Holy Spirit? Then ask yourself this question: why was it so vital that Peter and John be sent to Samaria? After all they believed, repented, and were baptized in water! We’d call that a great outcome in today’s evangelism. Not so with the Apostles. They understood that in order to be born again, you had to receive the Holy Spirit. That is why they sent Peter and John.
They only knew of John the Baptist & were baptised in water, the Holy Spirit they had not even heard of because the Holy Spirit would not come until Jesus returned to Heaven that is why it was different for them. This is what David Wilkerson used to preach as well. Misleading video at the end as is not on any of his original videos. It has been added. I went on to this channel virtually no subscribers & only 5 videos in total & at least 2 were not to do with David Wilkerson. People can easily alter videos & I have seen this happen. His church was classed as no denomination & was not Pentecostal.
So why did the apostles have to come down from Jerusalem to Samaria on hearing that the Samarians had come to faith through the gospel taught by Philip (who was not an apostle)? It was to lay apostle hands on them in order to impart the miraculous measure of the Holy Spirit. Only the apostles could do that and the purpose being to assist the spreading of the gospel by the Samarian converts who like Philip, would then be able to perform miracles, (but not be able to pass the miraculous measure on because only apostles could do that). When the last apostles died, miracles ended: probably before then and around AD70.
@@ChristisSaviour unfortunately, because of your cessationist views you don’t understand the Scriptures when it comes to this matter. Where does it say that only the apostles could pass on the gift of the Holy Spirit? Actually, the apostles couldn’t do that. It was not for them to give the Holy Spirit to individuals. As John the Baptist said, it is Jesus who baptizes in the Holy Spirit. The most the apostles could do was pray that they would receive the Holy Spirit. And everyone who repents and believes will receive the Holy Spirit. You’ve also forgotten the fact that Ananias, who wasn’t an apostle, also laid his hands on Saul so that he would receive his sight and receive the Holy Spirit. Therefore you’re totally wrong according to Scripture.
@@SlavicUA In Acts 6:5 where the apostles chose Stephen, Philip, Procorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas; we learn these were men already saved and full of the Holy Spirit. What they did not have was the miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit; only the eleven received that ability when the Holy Spirit came upon them at Pentecost. Notice it was after the laying on of apostles hands that Stephen and Philip are recorded as doing miraculous activity. However, this ability could only be received from an apostle (Acts 8:18), hence why Peter and John had to come all the way from Jerusalem to Samaria. Think about it, if Philip could have imparted the ability to do miracles upon whomever he layed hands, then there was no need for Peter and John to come to Samaria. This is the biblical evidence in my view.
@@ChristisSaviour I understand what you’re saying. But I believe you’re drawing a conclusion Scripture doesn’t say. It doesn’t say that Stephen was doing miracles after the laying on of hands. But even if that was the case, that doesn’t answer my question. You’re not separating the gifts of the Holy Spirit which He Himself distributes to whom He chooses, and the gift of the Holy Spirit Himself, when Jesus comes to dwell within us. Does that make sense?
So, how did you go about being baptized in The Holy Spirit Caleb since John and Peter weren't available 😊? It seems you are implying that you have since you preach the Gospel "boldly"? ....and what about Baptists that also share the Gospel "boldly", that do not even believe in a separate baptism? What about Pentacostals that do not share the Gospel boldly, but believe they have a separate baptism? I don't see any on clear difference in these patterns between these examples denominations. I know I received the Holy Spirit upon my conversion because of the changes he's made in my heart and my life. I'm such a different person now. I can't agree.
I think you can receive the baptism in the Spirit by spending time alone with God. Yes, I have preached boldly. I have actually been arrested 6-7 times for preaching. Not only that but I fought legal battles across Australia for the right to preach without a lawyer and without legal training. I argued in the highest court in Australia and won a national victory that permitted Christians to preach all over the country. Maybe you received it at conversion. That's possible.
@@iThinkBiblicallywhat you say you have done to help preach the Gospel is awesome!! I know that according to God's word your reward is great! Seriously Caleb that's really good. Your understanding of this particular subject though- you might reconsider because it's Biblically flawed. There are no in context chapters in the Scripture to support a second Holy Spirit in filling. Fod has and probably will move powerfully at times in people as He has done throughout Scripture. But what you're describing here is actually the gift of an evangelist. You my friend ARE THAT GIFT👍
THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT happens the moment you are born again by believing the true gospel. " ...born of the Spirit. "--John 3:3,8 "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body..."--I Cor.12:13 Believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit forever !! see Ephes.1:13,4:30 THE FILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is different, it happens after we are born again when we stay in fellowship with Almighty Jesus by obeying His word, and by asking to be filled !! It is the power from on high, power for soul winning !! "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit." --Ephes.5:18, 19-21, " And when they had prayed...they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." --Acts 4:31,33, Acts 11:22-24, Luke 24:47-49, Luke 11:13, I John 3:22, Matt.7:7,8, Zech.4:6
@@JohnvonLovehq743 the baptism in the Holy Spirit can occur at salvation or be a subsequent event after. It does not always occur at salvation and it didn’t occur in my walk with God until six months after salvation.
But what about the book of Ephesians which says the moment you belive you are SEALED with the holy spirit. So how can u become a Christian without the holy spirit?
You can't because what you say is true. You can not put God first in your life & others & not grow as a Christian but as you give your life more to Him, pray, thank, praise & love Him & want to be used by Him & believe the truth & real interpretation of the Bible that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are for us today as well as the change in your life, the infilling of the Holy Spirit & His guidance is upon us & He brings us closer to Jesus as we trust Him & He can use us more. Never does DW normally mention the Baptism of the Holy Spirit as he knew it was there to bring you to Jesus Christ & convict you in the first place of your need of him & your need to convict you of your sins. DW even said it does not happen like that or in such a dramatic way in all people.
You cannot. This is not denying being born again of the Spirit of God - but is speaking of the "second blessing" which empowers the believer for witnessing and receiving gifts. As it says in Acts 8:14-17 this occurs AFTER being born again.
Yeah, I agree with you, I've prayed for the "prayer language/baptism of the Holy Spirit" over the years and have never received it so I'm left knowing; 1) either I've already received it and don't pray in "tongues", or 2) that some receive the gift and some do not and that's fine as the LORD decides what gifts we receive.
Not everyone who claims the baptism of the H.G. is bold either. Many in my experience have claimed that they were baptized in the H.G. are timid as well.
Concerning Romans 8:9, does it mean that the Samaritans somehow already had the Spirit of Christ before the laying on of hands by the apostles? According to your reasoning (that they were already saved) it had to be so, otherwise they weren’t saved according to Romans 8:9. What then was the purpose of the “second” receiving of the Holy Spirit, which seems to be the baptism of the Holy Spirit? Was it God’s way to show in a supernatural way that they were included in His plan of salvation?
So why did the apostles have to come down from Jerusalem to Samaria on hearing that the Samarians had come to faith through the gospel taught by Philip (who was not an apostle)? It was to lay apostle hands on them in order to impart the miraculous measure of the Holy Spirit. Only the apostles could do that and the purpose being to assist the spreading of the gospel by the Samarian converts who like Philip, would then be able to perform miracles, (but not be able to pass the miraculous measure on because only apostles could do that). When the last apostles died, miracles ended: probably before then and around AD70.
@@joinjen3854 there is nothing in the Bible about being slain in the Spirit. Zechariah 13:1-3 said that unclean spirits were removed during the first century (at the time of cleansing by Christ) and that prophecy would also cease then. Paul stated that prophecy would come to an end when the perfect will of God (the Bible) was completed (I Corinthians 13:8-10). In fact, consider what Jesus said, "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'" (Matthew 7:21-23).
I have a question Brother? If the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is defined as the Spirit “coming upon” believers do endue with power from on High, Did the Priests in Numbers get baptized in the Holy Spirit as well since you described that Moses acknowledged that they received power from on high from God which came upon them?
I have to say I'm very disappointed in this teaching. Caleb you take almost if not all scripture out of it context. You then shoot out "the Bible says this and the Bible says that" a number of times without a scripture reference at all. Maybe in your desire for this teaching you decide to just ignore your own suggestion at the end to properly exegesis the scripture but you misled in many ways. You also suggest that the Apostles and others needed Pentecost for boldened to accomplish things but you completely ignore when Jesus sent out the 12 plus others and they cast out demons, healed the sick and preached the good news. To also say that this not out sharing and preaching don't have the Holy Spirit is an affront to the actual Scriptures. You are saying that those not doing those things are like second hand Christians without the Holy Spirit. When we are saved we are filled and sealed with the Holy Spirit and to each one are given different gifts- such as Evangelists. This are the one given that gift to share the Gospel. We should all share our salvation because of Gods grace to us but how you are stating it is wrong. Again- we are all given gifts from the One Holy Spirit, and there are many gifts. Your teaching and how you presented it was wrong. In love of Christ. Also as a side note the Scripture does not say there were any others with the Apostles at Pentecost. This is a common mistake of those who do not read scripture in context.
Let me give you the references to each point I made where I did not state the specific verse: "Prior to the day of Pentecost, the disciples had already been made clean by Christ’s Word (John 15:3), their names were written down in heaven (Luke 10:20 ), they had passed from death to life (John 5:24), they had eternal life (John 6:54) and they were in Christ as a branch is in the vine (John 15:1-10). Additionally, Peter received personal revelation from the Father (Matthew 16:17 ) and he had faith because Jesus said Peter would deny him three times but Jesus would pray that his faith remained (Luke 22:32 )".
@@iThinkBiblicallyI haven't researched all of them but just based on your point that they were saved or made clean- are you saying then that Judas was saved? That his name is written in Heaven and that he was also clean? 3:08 You still have not responded to your false comment about the 12 plus 120 in the upper room at Pentecost? Oh by the way thank you for the references. I'll be going I've the video again today.
I believe Caleb's explanation on preaching of the Gospel was a bit awkward but nevertheless, those who don't witness and or preach the Good News are cowards and probably need to grow in faith and understanding. And I speak from experience having been a coward but no longer. May Christ Jesus receive ALL THE GLORY! Amen
Excellent understanding. It is by faith in the resurrected Christ that the apostles received the seal of salvation the Holy Spirit. 👇 John 20:20,22 [20]And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord. [22]And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: But then they are told to wait untill Pentecost to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. 👇 Luke 24:49 [49]And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. Can I ask do you pray in tongues? Thanks and God bless your ministry 🙌
When you read the scriptures in the new testament notice that Jesus didn't start healing people,doing miracles and raising the dead until He was baptized in the Holy Spirit. For it is through the Holy Spirit the anointing of God then came on the Earth. God bless.
Firstly, your demeanor throughout this video has been Christ-like and NOT an Accuser of the Brethren attitude. As far as this topic, perfectly fine to speak of this perspective on Baptism of the Holy Spirit without dividing over in our Christian unity.
In Acts 2:14 this passage describes who was there at Pentecost. It was NOT the 120 mentioned in Acts 1. It was only the Apostles- "Peter standing among the other 11..
I think many get confused with being filled with the Spirit and being baptised with the Spirit. Ephesians 5 v 18 is continuous. Being baptised by or in the Spirit is a one off. 1 Corinthians 12 v 13. Then you have Ephesians 4 v 4 - 6. There is ONE baptism... that baptism is the placing of one into the body of Christ, which should happen at new birth.
4:33 You mention the prophecy of Joel being fulfilled at pentecost in Acts 2. We see this repeated a few times, namely to confirm the Holy Spirit being received by gentiles. If then this prophecy is fulfilled, do we have biblical queues to assume this is not a thing required during the foundation of the Church only? 22:18 I believe the baptisms being are talking about the Jewish washing rites, not about a plurality of Christian baptisms.
Ananias was specifically called by God to help Paul in his faith and understanding as well as the one who laid hands on him to recover his sight. To say that he was just an ordinary Christian is ridiculous.
It is very misleading what you have said about the late David Wilkerson's beliefs. He believes that you have the Holy Spirit within when you are saved & even before you are saved it is the Holy Spirit bringing you, convicting you so that you get saved & are born again. The Holy Spirit is within every true believer. He realises that it was different in the very beginning when Jesus went back to Heaven & then only could the Holy Spirit come as the comforter etc. which is why initially the Holy Spirit came to them separately & some believers had never heard of the Holy Spirit. It is within us - He does not believe in a 2nd Baptism of the Holy Spirit now after you are born again as do the NAR (National Apostolic Church), the Word of Faith Movement & others as this is totally wrong & they teach that you do not have the Holy Spirit within you when you are born again & need to be baptised in the Holy Spirit. This often results in people becoming demon possessed by people laying hands on them & showing signs of the Kundalini spirit .
David Wilkerson did believe that the Spirit is in every believer (So do I) but he also believed in the baptism of the Holy Spirit being a separate experience. He was an AOG pastor. Here is a video where he teaches the same as me ruclips.net/video/ZoYDn9I8GgU/видео.html
@@iThinkBiblically I have been listening to him on all his old videos & never once has he said you need hands laid on you to receive the Holy Spirit & definitely not the Baptism of the Holy Spirit today - It was just for that one time & wasn't needed after that. It is what we do with it, our lives following Christ, prayer, reading & believing what the Bible says, putting God first in our lives, loving our neighbour as ourselves etc. I received the ability to speak in tongues & believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit but nobody prayed for me to receive a 2nd Baptism of the Holy Spirit. The Christians at Times Square Church where DW was the main pastor never received a 2nd Baptism & it is still not preached there now. I know I have the Holy Spirit within me & God is guiding my life. I know the fruits of the Holy Spirit are so important or even more important & DW preached that the change in us was proof of the Holy Spirit living within us. Drug addicts & alcoholics who came to Jesus were miraculously able to suddenly 17:07 stop their addiction.
This was not on any normal DW's channel. At no other time does it, his preaching, end like this but as he said it was by putting God first, wanting him to be Lord of your life, loving Him, praising & thanking God & it did not come due to someone having or needing to lay hands on them/you to receive the Holy Spirit because it was already inside of them/you. I expect many believers do not realise they have the Holy Spirit with them when they have. Those who received the Holy Spirit later had only ever heard of John's baptism.
@leialee6820 as Caleb said and has shared the link to what David Wilkerson teaching is on the Baptism of the Spirit. You should give it a listen and you will see that David Wilkerson believed that every believer has the Spirit dwelling in them, however, he also believed in the Baptism of the Spirit as a second experience. He was a Pentecostal preacher, a good one. So give the link a go and listen to the sermon
@@emmanuelifemade4242 I have done but things have been added at the end as I have heard this before. Not from any DW channel but a channel with only 5 videos & only one from DW without normal authorisation or permission & the ending has been added without permission & authorisation & with an extremely small amount of subscribers. The ending is not the same, altered & longer. If he was going to get an audio version then let it be an authentic one with the correct title. His sermons often ended in altar calls but never like this & never that long. His main message did not say that a baptism of the Holy Spirit was necessary but about a life walking close to Jesus & what happens to you if you put him truly first in your life. I have listened to enough sermons by DW to know what he believes & also how Times Square Church, New York is today. It was never a Pentecostal church but viewed as a church without any denomination. Not impressed at all by Caleb picking this one & having listened still not impressed by his Biblical interpretation. I have heard enough of DW speaking on the HS to know that what DW preached was not that a 2nd Baptism was not at all necessary. Poor presentation by Caleb & DW would not agree on what he said.. You are aware that many channels have popped up recently & have altered the titles as well to suit themselves. Plus some are even set up by yt.
We have one body and many members. Each one who is saved is given a specific gift or gifts to use as that member of the body. Some are called to administer and others to helps and others to different things- but ALL have been filled with the Holy Spirit. You are confusing the gifts of the spirit such as evangelism with everyone doing the same thing. This is an incorrect view of the body.
I always wondered about those scriptures in Acts. It confused m b/c sometimes the believers immediately were filled and other times the disciples would lay hands on them or pray for them and then they were filled. Now my question is-has it been that way since Pentecost and to 2024? I'm reminded of what Jesus said in Matthew about who the HS is. I know he lives in me but are you saying today some believers don't have him? What are they to do?
There is only one baptism of the Holy Spirit, but many fillings of the Holy Spirit. It is about salvation and regeneration where the Holy Spirit descends upon the believer causing them to be Born-Again. One Lord, one Faith, one baptism.
I beg to differ. I myself had been born again for several years before I was baptised into the Holy Spirit (by Jesus - as Caleb tells us). Caleb shows us in Acts 8:14-17 - that this was definitely a "second blessing" as some people call it - occurring AFTER being born again. How do you interpret that passage? I also agree that the purpose for this second baptism - is for service. I, too, received a boldness I had never known before - with regards to witnessing and prayer.
"Born again" should be translated " born from above" . Of spirit ( ur soul placed at conception) Born of water ( woman's womb). The fallen angels were disobedient and did not go this route.. Not born of woman in spirit & water💧. Woman's water breaks. Therefore they ( fallen angels) CANNOT enter heaven. They r Already judged, just as Satan is a " Deadman walking". 👿☠
@@Ancient-Paths Your anecdotal personal experience does not dictate Bible doctrine. If you were not baptized with the Holy Spirit before, then you were an "almost Christian" that merely got saved later on. Thier are several instances of people receiving the Holty Spirit baptism in Acts. Keep in mind that when Jesus walked on the Earth, He came for the Jewish people. Acts 2 shows God's acceptance of the Jews. Acts 8 shows that the Gospel extended to that half-Jews, the Samaritans. Then in Acts 10, God confirms the Gospel to the Gentiles by baptizing them with the Holy Spirit. The idea of a "second baptism" comes late in Christianity, starting with John Fletcher (1770's) where he convoluted "fillings" with multiple "baptisms." Later in Methodism, around 1850, wanting to show an event that would indicate a "Second Blessing," the Holiness Movement began and popularized the idea of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit being that event. Later, around 1904, Second Blessing Methodist Charles Parham tried to "pray through" and bring on the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, but it failed to work, so he regrouped and noted that people spoke in tongues after receiving that Baptism. And then prayed for tongues and not sanctification, birthing the Pentecostal Movement. Historically speaking, Christianity was around for a Millenium and a half before anyone "discovered" this connection. It is just bad theology that metastasizes into even worse theology.
I agree with you. We have the Holy Spirit in us when we are truly born again & it is up to how we choose to live our lives & if we put God first etc how much infilling & direction the Holy Spirit gives us & DW would agree with this. This video was not on an DW channel but taken by a person who handpicked only 1 DW video, plus the title & ending have been altered & they never got permission to do this, then 4 others in total without hardly any subscribers. A video representing DW should be taken by his official channels not one random person who adds to this original video. You can go to other channels that distort the title etc & alter things.
The disciples were not born again until Jesus was Crucified and rose from the grave. They were like everyone else, they were still under the law. That is why they had to have Jesus explain the parables he taught to them, and why when he told them several times about how he would suffer and be put to death, and rise again on the third day, none of them understood because they had not yet received the Spirit. And the reason Judas could be possessed by Satan! When Peter Preached to them in Acts they ask what do we do, and Peter told them, repent and be baptized for the remission of sins, and you will receive the Spirit. All believers have the same Spirit of God residing in us, there is not a different Spirit that baptizes us, it is the same Spirit that all believers have. And in Joel it says in the last days God will pour his Spirit on ALL flesh, not just the 12 disciples! How do you think all those who were tortured and killed by Nero went through it? Or throughout history were murdered and tortured, and burned at the stake had the power to go through it? We are in the last days still. It wasn’t just a one time outpouring in the book of acts, it is from that time until the day Christ returns! So I’m sorry, but on this subject I am not in agreement with you.
How does one get this baptism? I’m Christian with reformed theology view. My family is Pentecostal but speak gibberish and say it’s a heavenly language. A lot of false teachers use this theory as being saved. I love my brothers in Christ who are true Pentecostals without the new age garbage. Can someone tell me how it’s done? Honestly I’m interested.
On the day of Pentecost they were in prayer. I would start there. Build up your prayer life, spend time worshiping Christ on your own and ask him for it.
I'd say the Spirit is in everyone who believes cos u can't believe without the Spirit working in you and Jesus promises to send the helper who will be in you not leaving you as an orphan. And then some people would be filled or empowered more than others like those in the book of acts. I don't think it should be complicated.
@@touchofgrace3217 i'm not saying filled with more or less. I'd say empowered or emboldened like Caleb said. I think if you have the Spirit then that same essence of power is in you but some would be empowered or emboldened with more of that essence - not a more powerful essence if that makes sense.. ? But yeah my opinion would be everyone has the Spirit in them when they come to belief in Jesus as I said before it's a promise from Jesus.
@@iThinkBiblically yes. Another thought would be gifts of the Spirit. Some are gifted with boldness in speaking - that's not to say others have a less portion of the same Spirit - but more boldness cos that gift.. ? Just a thought
It depends on your allowing the Holy Spirit to work in your life by your believing, prayer life, Bible reading & interpretation, calling on the Lord to use you, guide you &; putting Him first in your life. You can't expect the Holy Spirit to work in people who do not walk the way of Christ in their life. Therefore, people have the same Holy Spirit if true Christians but some do not allow the HS to work & manifest Himself the same by their disbelief, not believing in the gifts of the Holy Spirit & allowing the HS to work in their lives by not living Godly, Holy lives & not following the world.
@@acts.412this is correct. What some in the Charismatic community do is add the second filling to show that they have received some type of gift- when in reality that filling and whatever the gifts are for that person is given, it's at Salvation. God does work strongly in different ways at different times as shown throughout the Bible. In the NT it would be shown as healings and signs and wonders as done by the Apostles. In the Old Testament through His Prophets.
The Baptism is a complete immersion in the Spirit, an overwhelming experience of his presence, that is available to everyone. The Spirit is poured out, and believers are filled and immersed. The difference with the new experience of the Spirit is sheer abundance. (Note the disciples were actually drunk on the Spirit, Acts 2:13-17). Then, the Gospel is proclaimed with power, but the entire spiritual life of the believer becomes more intense, and he is introduced to supernatural power. But the real issue with the Cessationists is -- what is the evidence of receiving Spirit Baptism. Pentecostals maintain it is speaking with other tongues, Acts 2:2,3; 10:44-46; 19:6.
Yes. You can say The indwelling of the Holy Spirit like Getting a new charging cable But the baptism of the Holy Spirit is like getting the electricity running in the charging cable
@@jeffpaton9667 Immersion constitutes the actual definition of "baptized." Note Matthew 3:11, "he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire."
@@mpaulwebb8345 Nonsense. Immersion in Scripture is for destruction. No Christian in all of Scripture is ever shown to be immersed. Notice that Matthew 3:11 say to be baptized "with" the Holy Spirit. This is showing that the element (Holy Spirit or water,) is applied to the subject (a person) and not the other way around by taking the person and applying it into, or under water or the Spirit.
You cannot be a Christian without the Holy Spirit. Romans 8:9, "Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him." 1 John 4:13, "By this we know that we abide in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit."
If the baptism of the Spirit is synonymous with the Spirit coming upon people, the why does John the Baptist single out Jesus’s ministry as different because He would baptize (immerse) with the Spirit instead of water?
John baulked at baptizing Jesus because he knew that Jesus had no need of repentance for sin. Jesus told him that he must for all righteousness to be fulfilled. Jesus was not there for remission of sins, but ceremonial cleansing required in the Old Testament before one entered the ministry. There is nothing else I know of that could have fulfilled a command in the Old Testament that one can make reference to, other than that. There is no command to immerse in all the Old Testament, but there is ceremonial sprinkling and pouring!
I respect your interpretation brother. However, I do disagree with it a bit. As you said the people who don't have the 'boldness' to preach, I think that that's a matter of God granting the "gift of faith", as mentioned in 1 Cor 12. I don't believe the gift of faith there is only referring to a saving faith in Christ, but rather a gift of unwavering, uncompromising faith aka "being filled with the Holy Spirit" and boldness, and perseverance such as seen with Paul in Phil 4, Noah, any many other examples. I think being 'filled with the Spirit' is different from 'Baptism of the Spirit'. After Pentecost, now that the Spirit is available, we are 'baptized with the Spirit at Salvation, however in times of our own feebleness and lack of boldness, fear etc, God can grant us the gift of faith to empower us to move forward, despite our failings. Because otherwise every single believer who has been 'baptized with the Spirt' would never ever be afraid or nervousness or failings in their flesh, if the Baptism of the Spirit, being separate from salvation, is what empowers us. Obviously, the Holy Spirit inside of us empowers us, gives us gifts, etc (including the gift of faith), but obviously we humans fail and that's why He gives us the gift of faith from 1 Cor 12, when we fail, He picks us up and empowers us to do His Will. Verse to consider: Ephesians 5:18, and Galatians chapter 2 when Paul is talking about his rebuke of Peter. In that passage, Peter at this point was clearly 'baptized with the Spirt' as this was well after Pentecost, however Peter did not have the faith or boldness to stand up and speak up for the gentile Christinas in from of the Jewish Christinas and He played favoritism. However, Paul, seemingly being filled with The Spirit at this moment, rebuked Peter in front of all, which I imagine would have been adaunting task for anyone in their own flesh, to rebuke the Rock (Peter). I think all of this boils more down to the gift of faith rather than Baptism of the Spirit. And just like divine heart hardening doesn't necessarily seem to be absolute as God hardened pharoahs heart multiple times, I think the gift of faith may possibly not be absolute either since they were filled with Holy Spirit more than once, Acts 2 and Acts 4:31. All in all, i would say that a more proper understanding of the general idea of being 'baptized with the Spirit' would more properly be described as the gift of faith from 1 Cor 12. Anway, I respect your brother. And love your videos. God Bless!
I believe that baptism of the Holy Spirit is when you become born again. John baptised with water. But Jesus baptised with the Holy Spirit and with Fire. I believe that baptism of fire is a second anointing. You can receive both at the same time like Apostle Paul or receive at a different time like Billy Graham did.
The baptism of fire mentioned by John the Baptist, is explained by John himself in the context : Matthew 3:10 Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Then we have the well known verse : 11 “I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Then an explanation : 12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.” Those baptised in the Holy Spirit are the wheat, gathering into the barn while the others are the chaff that will burn with unquenchable fire (baptised with fire)
Hey Caleb. How would you explain the following verse if indeed there’s a difference between being baptized in the Holy Spirit and being born again? 1 Corinthians 12:13 “For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body. Whether Jews or Greeks or slaves or free, we were all made to drink of the one Spirit.” We see here that one becomes a member of the body of Christ when they are baptized in the Spirit. Otherwise we can say that you can be a member of the body of Christ without receiving the Holy Spirit? That’s not right. See the following verses why I’m saying this.. Romans 8:9, 1 Corinthian 12:13, Acts 8:15-16, 10:44-47, 19:1-6 These verses prove that receiving the Holy Spirit, being baptized in the Holy Spirit, the initial “coming upon” of the Holy Spirit, the initial “filling” of the Holy Spirit, are all synonymous terms. Please read David Pawson’s books The Normal Christian Birth and Jesus Baptizes in One Holy Spirit to understand the full scope of this
@@iThinkBiblically Caleb, all you did was state what Martin Lloyd Jones said about that verse. That’s not responsible. And no, David Pawson does not agree with you on this. I read his book multiple times. David Pawson says that you become a member of the body of Christ WHEN you are baptized in the Holy Spirit, aka receive the Holy Spirit. Because according to Romans 8:9, if you do not have the Holy Spirit, you don’t belong to Christ.
I disagree that tongues are just and earthly language. The bible says in Mark 16:17 that we will speak in new language not a different language. Apostle Paul said he spoke in human language and angelic language. (1 Corin 13:1) 1 Corinthians 14:2 [2] For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries.
I have to disagree. The Holy Spirit is one of the three persons of God. I find the Pentecostal movement’s treatment of God less than reverent and dishonors Christianity. The abuse seen with senseless babbling and baby talk is just sad and disrespectful.
Caleb, not to mention DL Moody and RA Torrey. Both giants in the faith, like David Wilkerson and AW Tozer. Torrey was Pastor at Moody Church and also founded BIOLA on the West Coast. I recommend his book: ‘Baptism with the Holy Spirit’. 🙏
So you have the Scripture right in front of your eyes and because it disagrees with your opinion you want us to look outside of its plain meaning. Isn't that what you told people not to do?
@@iThinkBiblically How is there salvation without the Holy Spirit. Through the Holy Spirit we are sealed in Christ. This is a salvation issue. I do rebuke you for decieving people, this is heresy.
@@FollowerofChrist12I want my Holy Ghost and looking back not meaning to. And I was not thinking Please pray. I don’t want to be in the world and cut off Why does God want me not in THE HOLY GHOST WHY
Romans 8:9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[d] because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of[e] his Spirit who lives in you. I’d say that’s definite proof that every true believer has the Holy Spirit indwelling them. But I do believe the coming upon of the Holy Spirit and being ‘filled’ with the Spirit are movements of the Spirit which empower us to prophesy and preach and preform miracles etc. perhaps even the baptism of the spirit is a separate event of the indwelling that endows one with gifts. Don’t know. I received the Holy Spirit during water baptism. I’ve had His Spirt within me and around me since.
Ephians4;…4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. There is one baptism that is in the name of Jesus Christ and same is baptism of the Holy Spirit. Baptism of John was just a shadow of it.People have no courage to witness cause they have free will even tough God gives them boldness to do so they refuse cause of own choice. If baptism of Holy Spirit gives you strenght and Boldness overpowering all then Kat Kerr and Benny Hinn are baptised cause they have boldness to prophesy.
@@leialee6820 Yes, they preach a false gospel because they are not saved. However, that does not negate the reality of the "second blessing" - a baptism in the Holy Spirit AFTER being born again (as we see in Acts 8:14-17) ... a baptism for service and empowerment to witness.
@@Ancient-Paths So you saying there poor christians who have nothing but some salvation and there is elite christians who have empowerment? To me it seems just another church dividing doctrine which is simply not true cause that would be similar election for no reason like calvinists teach.
@@Ancient-Paths on the other hand speaking in tongues and prophesying falsely with boldlness is considered as from Holy Spirit and my meaning is that prophesying, speaking in tongues and preaching the Gospel needs to be from Holy Spirit that it would be true. So boldness and active participation does not prove anything cause with time many just start doing false preaching and teaching even tough they have started good.Because many teachers have come but not many are sent.
In the Syrian move of God this is what Jesus said would happen as to how the Word of God to the gentiles were to happen. So it was proper that the Apostles were sent there as a sign that these gentiles have been accepted in Gods plan.
Thank you so much for this message. I would like request you to make a video on regeneration and clarify on what Jesus said to Nicodemus in John 3 saying, “… unless one is born of Spirit and water”
So who is the Father of Jesus? YHWH or the coequal 3rd person of the trinity? It was the 3rd person (Holy Spirit) who conceived Jesus in Mary's womb According to Catholic doctrine. And you can't claim it was the Father due to the strict definition of the trinity doctrine set by the church. The Father cannot be the 3rd person Holy Spirit and vice versa. Sooner or later Christians are going to discover that what they have believed for over 1700 years is a concoction of the blind guides in the catholic church that developed the false doctrine over the following centuries after 70 ad. It contradicts everything Yhwh said about himself over 6k times just so there wasn't any confusion. Yet, the church has followed after a man they claim is God Almighty directly refuting YHWH himself. Instead of following after the LIGHT of Truth and studying to show themselves approved. It all crumbles to reveal the truth. Just as promised, the church would be blinded in-part until the very end, in the day of affliction their eyes will be opened and they will know the Father. Jer 16:19-21. He ALONE is God. There is NO OTHER. Isaiah 43:11, 45:5-7. He is our only savior. Jude 1:25 (original kjv). No man has ever seen God at any time and he has no form. If people can't even comprehend the 1st commandment then they deserve to be deceived.
THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT happens the moment you are born again by believing the true gospel. " ...born of the Spirit. "--John 3:3,8 "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body..."--I Cor.12:13 Believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit forever !! see Ephes.1:13,4:30 THE FILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is different, it happens after we are born again when we stay in fellowship with Almighty Jesus by obeying His word, and by asking to be filled !! It is the power from on high, power for soul winning !! "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit." --Ephes.5:18, 19-21, " And when they had prayed...they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." --Acts 4:31,33, Acts 11:22-24, Luke 24:47-49, Luke 11:13, I John 3:22, Matt.7:7,8, Zech.4:6
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit, we all get when we confess Christ Jesus and then receive The Baptistism of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit right then. There is no such thing as saved and you didn't recive The Indwelling Baptistism of the Holy Spirit Romsns 8-9-11.
John 3:3-8 King James Version 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Without the cross and the shedding of His Blood there could be no regeneration. This is simply false to say they were saved prior to the death and resurrection.
GRECO-ROMAN CHRISTIANITY OR JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY? Given the fact that Jesus is not one of the many sons of Zeus, the god of the Greeks, and that the God of Abraham had never promised a Son to Israel but the Messiah (HaMashiak) which the Greek forgers and fiddlers translated as “Christos” as it is written: "I will raise among them the Messiah(Christos)HaMashiak, a Prophet(Messenger) like you Moses, Him they must listen..." Deut.18:15-19; Acts 3:17-24; Acts 7:1-30; Luke 24:25-27 and 44-47; Acts 17:1-3; John 4:24-25, Surah 3:81, etc. So Messiah(Christ) is a Prophet in the likeness of Moses as Matthew proved it. Like Moses He stayed in Egypt. Like Moses He is Mediator of a New Covenant. Considering that the Gospel that Paul proclaimed to the world mentions JESUS CHRIST SON OF GOD and not just JESUS. Therefore, we can deduce that Trinity is a misunderstanding of the Pauline doxology of “Father, Son, and Holy Spirit”! Because between Jesus Christ (HaMashiak) Son of God and Jesus Son of God... there is a great philosophical and legal difference if we take for legal framework the TEN COMMANDMENTS and the social environment where Jesus was born!
John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Ephesians 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 2 Timothy 1:6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands. 1 Timothy 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
This man is so out of context to prove his denominationalism. He keeps saying I think because he is regurgitating what he heard not studied in context.
In Pentecostal theology Baptism of the Holy Spirit is to be accompanied by speaking in tongues. If the person doesn’t speak in tongues there is no evidence to say they have received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. It’s speak in tongues first and then you are empowered to witness.
Dr Martin Lloyd Jones Book of Holy Spirit Baptism: hcf-india.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/The-Baptism-and-Gifts-of-the-Spirit-Dr-David-Martyn-Lloyd-Jones.pdf
David Wilkerson Sermon on the Baptism of the Holy Spirit: ruclips.net/video/ZoYDn9I8GgU/видео.html
ephesians 1:13-14. You are speaking lies.
@@randycarson9812 Caleb
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@randycarson9812 Romanism Murdered 50 Million innocent people over the centuries. Is Christ a murderer? Get out of pagan PAPAL Rome.
THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT happens the moment you are born again by believing the true gospel. " ...born of the Spirit. "--John 3:3,8 "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body..."--I Cor.12:13 Believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit forever !! see Ephes.1:13,4:30 THE FILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is different, it happens after we are born again when we stay in fellowship with Almighty Jesus by obeying His word, and by asking to be filled !! It is the power from on high, power for soul winning !! "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit." --Ephes.5:18, 19-21, " And when they had prayed...they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." --Acts 4:31,33, Acts 11:22-24, Luke 24:47-49, Luke 11:13, I John 3:22, Matt.7:7,8, Zech.4:6
I grew up in a Pentecostal church where the focus was on the gift of tongues (which I know is a true gift for many), but for me, the Holy Spirit convicts me and reminds me of things that are not pleasing to God. He reminds me to back up, regroup, and do better each and every day. He is a teacher and helps us endure until the end.
Amen !!!!
Tongues are for a sign to them that belive not 1cornth 14-22
I'm an ex neo-vedantic (hindu roots) new ager. I used to be into so much "cosmic/spiritual" stuff: trance channelings, ancient wisdom, gnosticism, psychedelic drugs, hindu gurus and buddhist variants. I was illuminated by the *kundalini (serpent) spirit* then 8 years ago I got rightly enlightened by the *Holy Spirit* ..... it came out of the blue, quite a while after praying for Truth ABOVE all else..... Spirit led me to the REAL *Yahusha/Jesus Christ* and everything changed - *Paradigm Shifted* ..... This is being *BORN AGAIN* and it's an ongoing surprise to me 😁
That’s not the gospel ! Were is the repentance of sin ? You speak of some non biblical esoteric experience which you will find nowhere in scripture.
John 14::6
@@David-828exactly, sounds strange to me as well.
Keep following Yeshua and read the word. You know who the King is now and he loves you. Learn from him. Love good and hate evil ❤
Praise The Lord
@@David-828he said he used to be into that but then God showed him the real truth. He’s not equating Christianity with that stuff.
I never had an overwhelming experience that made me lose control or speak in tongues or prophesy, but i love to witness and actually i think that sharing the gospel and sharing Scripture at appropriate times is a kind of prophesying
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit does not causes anyone to lose control .
I was filled/baptized with the Holy Spirit 5yrs ago. A year later while going through extreme spiritual warfare, I started praying and asking God, why this was happening, I immediately felt something in my mouth. I started praying in tongues(mysteries in the Spirit 1Cor 14:2) it was completely supernatural!!(private prayer language so different function than the tongues in Acts 2) I had no idea this gift was even for me and didn’t even know it was real. The Holy Spirit gave me this gift in my time of need to fight the enemy. The gifts of the Spirit are extremely important!! God is so good!! 🙌
There are 3 types of different functions for the gift of tongues.
Signs for the unbeliever;
Acts 2 at Pentecost actual languages that led people to Christ because they heard the gospel in their own language.
Private prayer language;
1Cor 14:2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.(doesn’t edify the church, edifies you because you’re praying the Father’s will back to him.
Then tongues with interpretation. This is someone giving a word in an unknown language and another person interpreting. This would act as a prophecy because it edifies the church. 1Cor 2
Look at all of 1st Corinthians 14 and not just the one verse this guy cherry-picked. It clearly doesn't support what he's saying, so don't fall for it.
Great Video and i totally agree . I was baptized in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gave the utterance of course after i was Born Again and yes it gave me the boldness to witness and also the power for living. The Holy Spirit led me into all truth and kept me from being deceived by the wolfs in sheep clothing (TV prosperity preachers ) Sadly so many deny the real power of the Holy Spirit in their lives and also many Christians ministries do not welcome the Holy Spirit . Just show a form of godliness ,but deny the power thereof .
The Gift of " Tongues" is an actual Lamguage, not gibberish. People from all over the Roman Empire spoke other languages, and they heard The Gospel in their language. Acts 2 & 3.
Very well done brother. And I always love the way you always make the point by using the scriptures, which is how it should be done. May God bless you and the ministry He has given you.
Thanks mate :)
First thing that I have disagreed with you on Caleb , sealed once , filled often. Not a salvation issue but Pentecostals and charismatic’s would often try to make you feel like a second class Christian with this error .
Yeah ,cool bro. Feel free to disagree. Im not perfect. :) It's just my current understanding.
Don’t tar everyone with the same brush. 🙏
It seems that so many focus on self empowerment rather than for ministry. Having to prove yourself worthy by displaying one particular gift . Paul diminished self edification on favor of edifying others. Gifts was added to scripture for readability , therefore we should persue what is spiritual. Also prophecy is not just for telling the future but also forth telling.
I have also seen this in the area we live. In my opinion, I feel like the leaders in most of the “Pentecostal churches”, are just shallow/unlearned leaders. Which always leads to a lot of fire in the wrong direction. The Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a gift, one that is received. Anyone who has received has been empowered for ministry, all sorts of ministry. I always found it interesting how that most faithful church members would fight you over Jesus, 😂, but ignore the last command of Jesus to His followers which is: “Tarry in Jerusalem until you are filled with Power from on high”.
and you will receive power to seem spiritual and edify yourself....wait 🤔......to be my witnesses
Caleb, you are in a very special SMALL group of apologist on RUclips that RIGHTLY handles the Word of God in a very clear, concise, and effective manner. When someone asks me questions regarding subjects you've covered, I send them to you. You truly are every man's Bible teacher. I pray God continues to bless you and your wife as you both endeavor to communicate God's love for his people.
I agree with you 100%!
Thanks mate :)
Well Caleb, I respectfully have to disagree with you on this point.
A.One aspect of the holiness doctrine is the concept of three works of grace: salvation, sanctification, and the baptism in the Spirit.
B.William Durham suggested there weren’t three works of grace, but only one work of grace, shown in two ways in our lives. He did not believe in the so-called second work, namely, sanctification[which is done upon the New Birth].
He taught that believers were saved and then baptized in the Holy Spirit; ** Note: This is a simultaneous event, not two separate events.
-At the baptism of Jesus, there is a prediction of a future baptism in the Spirit. -Baptism in water is for[because of] repentance; baptism in the Spirit takes place the moment a person becomes a believer in Jesus Christ as there Lord and Savior, which also includes a repentance from their former manner of life.
The question remains: When is a believer baptized in the Holy Spirit?
The answer is in scripture in:
Romans 8:9.
“You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.”
The last sentence of this verse in Romans 8:9 makes it very clear that by the time Paul wrote Romans, all believers had the Holy Spirit.
Compare the following:
Jn.14:16-17;
Rom.8:11;
Gal.4:6;
2Tim.1:14.
That has to mean that all believers receive the Holy Spirit at the point of the new birth.
See John 3:5.
There were exceptions at the very beginning of the Church Age for two major reasons:
1)obviously, because many were already believers and therefore needed to receive the Spirit by other means than salvation which they already had;
2)because of the necessity of establishing the authority of the apostles (who were given to mediate the Spirit by means of the laying on of hands),
3)because of the need to bring about the transition from the leadership of Israel to the flooding in of the gentiles into the Church;
4)a certain amount of gradual, step by step movement was necessary (i.e., Jews [Acts 2], to Samaritans [Acts 8], to gentiles as exceptions [Acts 10], to gentiles as a rule).
Who is B. William Durham?
@@iThinkBiblically William Howard Durham was an early Pentecostal preacher and theologian, best known for advocating the Finished Work doctrine. The term finished work arises from the aphorism "It's a finished work at Calvary", referring to both salvation and sanctification. [Finished Work Pentecostals and Holiness Pentecostals are the two main branches of classical, trinitarian Pentecostalism. The dispute surrounding it was called the Finished Work Controversy which split the Pentecostal movement into Wesleyan and non-Wesleyan doctrinal orientations, known respectively as Holiness Pentecostals and Finished Work Pentecostals.
I was a Pentecostal for about 35 years and left the denomination about 10 years ago. I was ordained as an Ordained Bishop in 2011. I have studied this doctrine for a while and have come to the conclusion that the Pentecostal doctrine of a Second Word of grace, that is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is contrary to the Scriptures, as Ephesians 4:4-5 indicates. It is my contention that one is Baptized by the Holy Spirit when they become a true believer in Jesus Christ and His gospel. It is not a second work of grace as some believe.
Great video. You did thought biblically. I believe your right. At the end of the day. Its the Holy Spirit that will allow us to understand Gods Word, so all brothers and sisters lets cling unto him. Amen
I've an issue when people conflate this up with salvation. There is of course a link between this. But I think it's because the gospel is mostly handled retarded.
This is not a simple question. From Romans 8:9 we learn that if someone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to him. So all saved believers have the Holy Spirit. In Matthew 3:11 John the baptist prophesies that Christ will come to baptise in the Holy Spirit. In Acts 1:5 Jesus himself tells the disciples that they will be baptised in the Holy Spirit. Then in Acts 11:16 Peter remembers that the Lord had said they would be baptised in the Holy Spirit. Then Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 12:13 that we have all been baptised in one Spirit into one body. In each case the Greek words used are "en pneumati". For some reason this is translated as with or by in some versions. But it's clear to me that all believers are baptized in the Holy Spirit. But as brother Caleb points out, it seems that we can be filled with the Holy Spirit at some times more than others. Indeed Paul exhorts us in Ephesians 5:18 to be filled with the Holy Spirit, which implies that we can be less filled or more filled.
In my view, the big error is in charismatic and pentacostal circles where some pastors and believers insist on a separate baptism of the Holy Spirit in addition to receiving the indwelling of the Holy Spirit when we believed, which has to be manifested in some way, such as by speaking in "tongues" which don't correspond to the biblical tongue speaking in Acts 2. This leads to frustration on the part of those who recognise that they haven't received this supposed second blessing, fakery by people talking in gibberish to show they have received the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and elitism on the part of those who believe they have received a special blessing that the others haven't received.
But "tongues" today should be a recognisable language ... not the counterfeit gibberish we often hear. There can be no counterfeit unless the real exists.
@@Ancient-Paths The main reason I believe is satan absolutely despises those who pray in the Holy Spirit why!..because the angels of God are advancing in the kingdom of darkness!...Keep praying my brother we need the sons of God up on that front line...God bless.
@@Ancient-Paths nonsense tongues is not a language of men, but of God
Caleb, your delivery, demeanor, position and presentation of content is a gift from God! I hope you never take that for granted.
I have many testimonies about the Baptism in the Holy Spirit, leading up to my experience and a host of other’s experiences. As amazing as our God is, there isn’t one instance in hundreds of people who were spirit baptism that was identical. So, to the inquisitive seeker first, there is no “recipe” to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit outside of 1) Believing 2) Seeking. God creates a special unique and personal experience for every single person.
I used to ask folks this question: Are you a disciple of Jesus or a disciple of John. Everyone unanimously claims Jesus. I then ask them if they have received the Baptism in the Holy Spirit and the answer is almost always no or, “I got all the spirit when I got saved, etc…”. The only difference in John’s and Jesus’ disciples is the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. Many people have never considered the fact that Jesus “never baptized the first person in water”. Jesus only baptizes with the Holy Spirit and fire. Seeker, study the Holy Spirit, search for His work, believe that God has prepared something special just for “You”! When it happens, share your story!
Thanks mate :)
Great Video Caleb! 👍 may I share this too: in John 20:21-22, Jesus breathed on his disciples and said “Receive the Holy Spirit”. At that moment they were born again according to John 3:5-8, they have become a new creation (2 Corinth 5:17). Then on Pentecost they received power from on high, (baptised by Holy Spirit). We must be very careful not to covet this event; the LORD will give power to whom He wills! We must be thankful that He gives us His Holy Spirit, which is more than enough….. 🙏. 1 Corinthians 12:13 says we are all immersed into One Spirit, One body! Wow Hebrews 10:15-17 = Jeremiah 31:31!
Ask yourself this question: is it possible to be born again and not receive the Holy Spirit? Then ask yourself this question: why was it so vital that Peter and John be sent to Samaria? After all they believed, repented, and were baptized in water! We’d call that a great outcome in today’s evangelism. Not so with the Apostles. They understood that in order to be born again, you had to receive the Holy Spirit. That is why they sent Peter and John.
They only knew of John the Baptist & were baptised in water, the Holy Spirit they had not even heard of because the Holy Spirit would not come until Jesus returned to Heaven that is why it was different for them. This is what David Wilkerson used to preach as well. Misleading video at the end as is not on any of his original videos. It has been added. I went on to this channel virtually no subscribers & only 5 videos in total & at least 2 were not to do with David Wilkerson. People can easily alter videos & I have seen this happen. His church was classed as no denomination & was not Pentecostal.
So why did the apostles have to come down from Jerusalem to Samaria on hearing that the Samarians had come to faith through the gospel taught by Philip (who was not an apostle)? It was to lay apostle hands on them in order to impart the miraculous measure of the Holy Spirit. Only the apostles could do that and the purpose being to assist the spreading of the gospel by the Samarian converts who like Philip, would then be able to perform miracles, (but not be able to pass the miraculous measure on because only apostles could do that). When the last apostles died, miracles ended: probably before then and around AD70.
@@ChristisSaviour unfortunately, because of your cessationist views you don’t understand the Scriptures when it comes to this matter. Where does it say that only the apostles could pass on the gift of the Holy Spirit? Actually, the apostles couldn’t do that. It was not for them to give the Holy Spirit to individuals. As John the Baptist said, it is Jesus who baptizes in the Holy Spirit. The most the apostles could do was pray that they would receive the Holy Spirit. And everyone who repents and believes will receive the Holy Spirit.
You’ve also forgotten the fact that Ananias, who wasn’t an apostle, also laid his hands on Saul so that he would receive his sight and receive the Holy Spirit. Therefore you’re totally wrong according to Scripture.
@@SlavicUA In Acts 6:5 where the apostles chose Stephen, Philip, Procorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas; we learn these were men already saved and full of the Holy Spirit. What they did not have was the miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit; only the eleven received that ability when the Holy Spirit came upon them at Pentecost. Notice it was after the laying on of apostles hands that Stephen and Philip are recorded as doing miraculous activity. However, this ability could only be received from an apostle (Acts 8:18), hence why Peter and John had to come all the way from Jerusalem to Samaria. Think about it, if Philip could have imparted the ability to do miracles upon whomever he layed hands, then there was no need for Peter and John to come to Samaria. This is the biblical evidence in my view.
@@ChristisSaviour I understand what you’re saying. But I believe you’re drawing a conclusion Scripture doesn’t say. It doesn’t say that Stephen was doing miracles after the laying on of hands. But even if that was the case, that doesn’t answer my question. You’re not separating the gifts of the Holy Spirit which He Himself distributes to whom He chooses, and the gift of the Holy Spirit Himself, when Jesus comes to dwell within us. Does that make sense?
So, how did you go about being baptized in The Holy Spirit Caleb since John and Peter weren't available 😊? It seems you are implying that you have since you preach the Gospel "boldly"?
....and what about Baptists that also share the Gospel "boldly", that do not even believe in a separate baptism? What about Pentacostals that do not share the Gospel boldly, but believe they have a separate baptism? I don't see any on clear difference in these patterns between these examples denominations.
I know I received the Holy Spirit upon my conversion because of the changes he's made in my heart and my life. I'm such a different person now.
I can't agree.
I think you can receive the baptism in the Spirit by spending time alone with God. Yes, I have preached boldly. I have actually been arrested 6-7 times for preaching. Not only that but I fought legal battles across Australia for the right to preach without a lawyer and without legal training. I argued in the highest court in Australia and won a national victory that permitted Christians to preach all over the country. Maybe you received it at conversion. That's possible.
I think when we experience new birth we are baptized with The Holy Spirit
@@iThinkBiblicallywhat you say you have done to help preach the Gospel is awesome!! I know that according to God's word your reward is great! Seriously Caleb that's really good. Your understanding of this particular subject though- you might reconsider because it's Biblically flawed. There are no in context chapters in the Scripture to support a second Holy Spirit in filling. Fod has and probably will move powerfully at times in people as He has done throughout Scripture. But what you're describing here is actually the gift of an evangelist. You my friend ARE THAT GIFT👍
I still think Baptism of the Holy Spirit is salvation...
Do you mean born again?
THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT happens the moment you are born again by believing the true gospel. " ...born of the Spirit. "--John 3:3,8 "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body..."--I Cor.12:13 Believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit forever !! see Ephes.1:13,4:30 THE FILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is different, it happens after we are born again when we stay in fellowship with Almighty Jesus by obeying His word, and by asking to be filled !! It is the power from on high, power for soul winning !! "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit." --Ephes.5:18, 19-21, " And when they had prayed...they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." --Acts 4:31,33, Acts 11:22-24, Luke 24:47-49, Luke 11:13, I John 3:22, Matt.7:7,8, Zech.4:6
@@JohnvonLovehq743 the baptism in the Holy Spirit can occur at salvation or be a subsequent event after.
It does not always occur at salvation and it didn’t occur in my walk with God until six months after salvation.
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324 I gave you Scripture proof above ,read it again !!
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324 After salvation is the filling of the H.S., read my post above again.
How interesting I just listened to David Wilkerson sermon on the baptism of the Holy Spirit three days ago
But what about the book of Ephesians which says the moment you belive you are SEALED with the holy spirit. So how can u become a Christian without the holy spirit?
You can't because what you say is true. You can not put God first in your life & others & not grow as a Christian but as you give your life more to Him, pray, thank, praise & love Him & want to be used by Him & believe the truth & real interpretation of the Bible that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are for us today as well as the change in your life, the infilling of the Holy Spirit & His guidance is upon us & He brings us closer to Jesus as we trust Him & He can use us more. Never does DW normally mention the Baptism of the Holy Spirit as he knew it was there to bring you to Jesus Christ & convict you in the first place of your need of him & your need to convict you of your sins. DW even said it does not happen like that or in such a dramatic way in all people.
You are correct.
You cannot. This is not denying being born again of the Spirit of God - but is speaking of the "second blessing" which empowers the believer for witnessing and receiving gifts. As it says in Acts 8:14-17 this occurs AFTER being born again.
A true Christian I might add
Yeah, I agree with you, I've prayed for the "prayer language/baptism of the Holy Spirit" over the years and have never received it so I'm left knowing; 1) either I've already received it and don't pray in "tongues", or 2) that some receive the gift and some do not and that's fine as the LORD decides what gifts we receive.
You mentioned Keith Green, that is awesome man, i love his music.
The discussion that shall continue for all of time until the timeless.
Not everyone who claims the baptism of the H.G. is bold either. Many in my experience have claimed that they were baptized in the H.G. are timid as well.
Concerning Romans 8:9, does it mean that the Samaritans somehow already had the Spirit of Christ before the laying on of hands by the apostles? According to your reasoning (that they were already saved) it had to be so, otherwise they weren’t saved according to Romans 8:9. What then was the purpose of the “second” receiving of the Holy Spirit, which seems to be the baptism of the Holy Spirit? Was it God’s way to show in a supernatural way that they were included in His plan of salvation?
So why did the apostles have to come down from Jerusalem to Samaria on hearing that the Samarians had come to faith through the gospel taught by Philip (who was not an apostle)? It was to lay apostle hands on them in order to impart the miraculous measure of the Holy Spirit. Only the apostles could do that and the purpose being to assist the spreading of the gospel by the Samarian converts who like Philip, would then be able to perform miracles, (but not be able to pass the miraculous measure on because only apostles could do that). When the last apostles died, miracles ended: probably before then and around AD70.
@@ChristisSaviourso you are saying people slain in the spirit now are Familiar spirits and not the Holy Spirit? Genuine question.
@@joinjen3854 there is nothing in the Bible about being slain in the Spirit. Zechariah 13:1-3 said that unclean spirits were removed during the first century (at the time of cleansing by Christ) and that prophecy would also cease then. Paul stated that prophecy would come to an end when the perfect will of God (the Bible) was completed (I Corinthians 13:8-10). In fact, consider what Jesus said, "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'" (Matthew 7:21-23).
I have a question Brother? If the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is defined as the Spirit “coming upon” believers do endue with power from on High, Did the Priests in Numbers get baptized in the Holy Spirit as well since you described that Moses acknowledged that they received power from on high from God which came upon them?
I have to say I'm very disappointed in this teaching. Caleb you take almost if not all scripture out of it context. You then shoot out "the Bible says this and the Bible says that" a number of times without a scripture reference at all. Maybe in your desire for this teaching you decide to just ignore your own suggestion at the end to properly exegesis the scripture but you misled in many ways. You also suggest that the Apostles and others needed Pentecost for boldened to accomplish things but you completely ignore when Jesus sent out the 12 plus others and they cast out demons, healed the sick and preached the good news. To also say that this not out sharing and preaching don't have the Holy Spirit is an affront to the actual Scriptures. You are saying that those not doing those things are like second hand Christians without the Holy Spirit. When we are saved we are filled and sealed with the Holy Spirit and to each one are given different gifts- such as Evangelists. This are the one given that gift to share the Gospel. We should all share our salvation because of Gods grace to us but how you are stating it is wrong. Again- we are all given gifts from the One Holy Spirit, and there are many gifts. Your teaching and how you presented it was wrong. In love of Christ. Also as a side note the Scripture does not say there were any others with the Apostles at Pentecost. This is a common mistake of those who do not read scripture in context.
Let me give you the references to each point I made where I did not state the specific verse: "Prior to the day of Pentecost, the disciples had already been made clean by Christ’s Word (John 15:3), their names were written down in heaven (Luke 10:20 ), they had passed from death to life (John 5:24), they had eternal life (John 6:54) and they were in Christ as a branch is in the vine (John 15:1-10). Additionally, Peter received personal revelation from the Father (Matthew 16:17 ) and he had faith because Jesus said Peter would deny him three times but Jesus would pray that his faith remained (Luke 22:32 )".
@@iThinkBiblicallyI haven't researched all of them but just based on your point that they were saved or made clean- are you saying then that Judas was saved? That his name is written in Heaven and that he was also clean? 3:08
You still have not responded to your false comment about the 12 plus 120 in the upper room at Pentecost? Oh by the way thank you for the references. I'll be going I've the video again today.
@@iThinkBiblicallydo you have any plans to respond to my questions that I've put throughout the comments section?
I believe Caleb's explanation on preaching of the Gospel was a bit awkward but nevertheless, those who don't witness and or preach the Good News are cowards and probably need to grow in faith and understanding. And I speak from experience having been a coward but no longer. May Christ Jesus receive ALL THE GLORY! Amen
AWESOME MESSAGE.
Excellent understanding.
It is by faith in the resurrected Christ that the apostles received the seal of salvation the Holy Spirit.
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John 20:20,22
[20]And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
[22]And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
But then they are told to wait untill Pentecost to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
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Luke 24:49
[49]And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Can I ask do you pray in tongues?
Thanks and God bless your ministry 🙌
I love the Holy Spirit❤❤❤
When you read the scriptures in the new testament notice that Jesus didn't start healing people,doing miracles and raising the dead until He was baptized in the Holy Spirit. For it is through the Holy Spirit the anointing of God then came on the Earth. God bless.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 thanks brother Caleb
Firstly, your demeanor throughout this video has been Christ-like and NOT an Accuser of the Brethren attitude. As far as this topic, perfectly fine to speak of this perspective on Baptism of the Holy Spirit without dividing over in our Christian unity.
In Acts 2:14 this passage describes who was there at Pentecost. It was NOT the 120 mentioned in Acts 1. It was only the Apostles- "Peter standing among the other 11..
I think many get confused with being filled with the Spirit and being baptised with the Spirit. Ephesians 5 v 18 is continuous. Being baptised by or in the Spirit is a one off. 1 Corinthians 12 v 13. Then you have Ephesians 4 v 4 - 6. There is ONE baptism... that baptism is the placing of one into the body of Christ, which should happen at new birth.
4:33 You mention the prophecy of Joel being fulfilled at pentecost in Acts 2. We see this repeated a few times, namely to confirm the Holy Spirit being received by gentiles. If then this prophecy is fulfilled, do we have biblical queues to assume this is not a thing required during the foundation of the Church only?
22:18 I believe the baptisms being are talking about the Jewish washing rites, not about a plurality of Christian baptisms.
Ananias was specifically called by God to help Paul in his faith and understanding as well as the one who laid hands on him to recover his sight. To say that he was just an ordinary Christian is ridiculous.
It is very misleading what you have said about the late David Wilkerson's beliefs. He believes that you have the Holy Spirit within when you are saved & even before you are saved it is the Holy Spirit bringing you, convicting you so that you get saved & are born again. The Holy Spirit is within every true believer. He realises that it was different in the very beginning when Jesus went back to Heaven & then only could the Holy Spirit come as the comforter etc. which is why initially the Holy Spirit came to them separately & some believers had never heard of the Holy Spirit. It is within us - He does not believe in a 2nd Baptism of the Holy Spirit now after you are born again as do the NAR (National Apostolic Church), the Word of Faith Movement & others as this is totally wrong & they teach that you do not have the Holy Spirit within you when you are born again & need to be baptised in the Holy Spirit. This often results in people becoming demon possessed by people laying hands on them & showing signs of the Kundalini spirit
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David Wilkerson did believe that the Spirit is in every believer (So do I) but he also believed in the baptism of the Holy Spirit being a separate experience. He was an AOG pastor. Here is a video where he teaches the same as me ruclips.net/video/ZoYDn9I8GgU/видео.html
@@iThinkBiblically I have been listening to him on all his old videos & never once has he said you need hands laid on you to receive the Holy Spirit & definitely not the Baptism of the Holy Spirit today - It was just for that one time & wasn't needed after that. It is what we do with it, our lives following Christ, prayer, reading & believing what the Bible
says, putting God first in our lives, loving our neighbour as ourselves etc. I received the ability to speak in tongues & believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit but nobody prayed for me to receive a 2nd Baptism of the Holy Spirit. The Christians at Times Square Church where DW was the main pastor never received a 2nd Baptism & it is still not preached there now. I know I have the Holy Spirit within me & God is guiding my life. I know the fruits of the Holy Spirit are so important or even more important & DW preached that the change in us was proof of the Holy Spirit living within us. Drug addicts & alcoholics who came to Jesus were miraculously able to suddenly 17:07 stop their addiction.
This was not on any normal DW's channel. At no other time does it, his preaching, end like this but as he said it was by putting God first, wanting him to be Lord of your life, loving Him, praising & thanking God & it did not come due to someone having or needing to lay hands on them/you to receive the Holy Spirit because it was already inside of them/you. I expect many believers do not realise they have the Holy Spirit with them when they have.
Those who received the Holy Spirit later had only ever heard of John's baptism.
@leialee6820 as Caleb said and has shared the link to what David Wilkerson teaching is on the Baptism of the Spirit. You should give it a listen and you will see that David Wilkerson believed that every believer has the Spirit dwelling in them, however, he also believed in the Baptism of the Spirit as a second experience. He was a Pentecostal preacher, a good one. So give the link a go and listen to the sermon
@@emmanuelifemade4242 I have done but things have been added at the end as I have heard this before. Not from any DW channel but a channel with only 5 videos & only one from DW without normal authorisation or permission & the ending has been added without permission & authorisation & with an extremely small amount of subscribers. The ending is not the same, altered & longer. If he was going to get an audio version then let it be an authentic one with the correct title. His sermons often ended in altar calls but never like this & never that long. His main message did not say that a baptism of the Holy Spirit was necessary but about a life walking close to Jesus & what happens to you if you put him truly first in your life. I have listened to enough sermons by DW to know what he believes & also how Times Square Church, New York is today. It was never a Pentecostal church but viewed as a church without any denomination. Not impressed at all by Caleb picking this one & having listened still not impressed by his Biblical interpretation. I have heard enough of DW speaking on the HS to know that what DW preached was not that a 2nd Baptism was not at all necessary. Poor presentation by Caleb & DW would not agree on what he said.. You are aware that many channels have popped up recently & have altered the titles as well to suit themselves. Plus some are even set up by yt.
We have one body and many members. Each one who is saved is given a specific gift or gifts to use as that member of the body. Some are called to administer and others to helps and others to different things- but ALL have been filled with the Holy Spirit. You are confusing the gifts of the spirit such as evangelism with everyone doing the same thing. This is an incorrect view of the body.
I always wondered about those scriptures in Acts. It confused m b/c sometimes the believers immediately were filled and other times the disciples would lay hands on them or pray for them and then they were filled. Now my question is-has it been that way since Pentecost and to 2024? I'm reminded of what Jesus said in Matthew about who the HS is. I know he lives in me but are you saying today some believers don't have him? What are they to do?
Well brought forth, in my opinion.
There is only one baptism of the Holy Spirit, but many fillings of the Holy Spirit. It is about salvation and regeneration where the Holy Spirit descends upon the believer causing them to be Born-Again. One Lord, one Faith, one baptism.
I beg to differ. I myself had been born again for several years before I was baptised into the Holy Spirit (by Jesus - as Caleb tells us). Caleb shows us in Acts 8:14-17 - that this was definitely a "second blessing" as some people call it - occurring AFTER being born again. How do you interpret that passage?
I also agree that the purpose for this second baptism - is for service. I, too, received a boldness I had never known before - with regards to witnessing and prayer.
"Born again" should be translated " born from above" . Of spirit ( ur soul placed at conception) Born of water ( woman's womb). The fallen angels were disobedient and did not go this route.. Not born of woman in spirit & water💧. Woman's water breaks.
Therefore they ( fallen angels) CANNOT enter heaven. They r Already judged, just as Satan is a " Deadman walking". 👿☠
@@Ancient-Paths Your anecdotal personal experience does not dictate Bible doctrine. If you were not baptized with the Holy Spirit before, then you were an "almost Christian" that merely got saved later on.
Thier are several instances of people receiving the Holty Spirit baptism in Acts. Keep in mind that when Jesus walked on the Earth, He came for the Jewish people. Acts 2 shows God's acceptance of the Jews. Acts 8 shows that the Gospel extended to that half-Jews, the Samaritans. Then in Acts 10, God confirms the Gospel to the Gentiles by baptizing them with the Holy Spirit.
The idea of a "second baptism" comes late in Christianity, starting with John Fletcher (1770's) where he convoluted "fillings" with multiple "baptisms." Later in Methodism, around 1850, wanting to show an event that would indicate a "Second Blessing," the Holiness Movement began and popularized the idea of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit being that event. Later, around 1904, Second Blessing Methodist Charles Parham tried to "pray through" and bring on the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, but it failed to work, so he regrouped and noted that people spoke in tongues after receiving that Baptism. And then prayed for tongues and not sanctification, birthing the Pentecostal Movement.
Historically speaking, Christianity was around for a Millenium and a half before anyone "discovered" this connection. It is just bad theology that metastasizes into even worse theology.
I agree with you. We have the Holy Spirit in us when we are truly born again & it is up to how we choose to live our lives & if we put God first etc how much infilling & direction the Holy Spirit gives us & DW would agree with this. This video was not on an DW channel but taken by a person who handpicked only 1 DW video, plus the title & ending have been altered & they never got permission to do this, then 4 others in total without hardly any subscribers. A video representing DW should be taken by his official channels not one random person who adds to this original video. You can go to other channels that distort the title etc & alter things.
And ONE GOD the Father of all. The Lord is not LORD or God.
The disciples were not born again until Jesus was Crucified and rose from the grave. They were like everyone else, they were still under the law. That is why they had to have Jesus explain the parables he taught to them, and why when he told them several times about how he would suffer and be put to death, and rise again on the third day, none of them understood because they had not yet received the Spirit. And the reason Judas could be possessed by Satan! When Peter
Preached to them in Acts they ask what do we do, and Peter told them, repent and be baptized for the remission of sins, and you will receive the Spirit. All believers have the same Spirit of God residing in us, there is not a different Spirit that baptizes us, it is the same Spirit that all believers have. And in Joel it says in the last days God will pour his Spirit on ALL flesh, not just the 12 disciples! How do you think all those who were tortured and killed by Nero went through it? Or throughout history were murdered and tortured, and burned at the stake had the power to go through it? We are in the last days still. It wasn’t just a one time outpouring in the book of acts, it is from that time until the day Christ returns! So I’m sorry, but on this subject I am not in agreement with you.
How does one get this baptism? I’m Christian with reformed theology view. My family is Pentecostal but speak gibberish and say it’s a heavenly language. A lot of false teachers use this theory as being saved. I love my brothers in Christ who are true Pentecostals without the new age garbage. Can someone tell me how it’s done? Honestly I’m interested.
On the day of Pentecost they were in prayer. I would start there. Build up your prayer life, spend time worshiping Christ on your own and ask him for it.
I'd say the Spirit is in everyone who believes cos u can't believe without the Spirit working in you and Jesus promises to send the helper who will be in you not leaving you as an orphan. And then some people would be filled or empowered more than others like those in the book of acts. I don't think it should be complicated.
Jesus had the Spirit without measure
@@touchofgrace3217 i'm not saying filled with more or less. I'd say empowered or emboldened like Caleb said. I think if you have the Spirit then that same essence of power is in you but some would be empowered or emboldened with more of that essence - not a more powerful essence if that makes sense.. ? But yeah my opinion would be everyone has the Spirit in them when they come to belief in Jesus as I said before it's a promise from Jesus.
@@iThinkBiblically yes. Another thought would be gifts of the Spirit. Some are gifted with boldness in speaking - that's not to say others have a less portion of the same Spirit - but more boldness cos that gift.. ? Just a thought
It depends on your allowing the Holy Spirit to work in your life by your believing, prayer life, Bible reading & interpretation, calling on the Lord to use you, guide you &; putting Him first in your life. You can't expect the Holy Spirit to work in people who do not walk the way of Christ in their life. Therefore, people have the same Holy Spirit if true Christians but some do not allow the HS to work & manifest Himself the same by their disbelief, not believing in the gifts of the Holy Spirit & allowing the HS to work in their lives by not living Godly, Holy lives & not following the world.
@@acts.412this is correct. What some in the Charismatic community do is add the second filling to show that they have received some type of gift- when in reality that filling and whatever the gifts are for that person is given, it's at Salvation. God does work strongly in different ways at different times as shown throughout the Bible. In the NT it would be shown as healings and signs and wonders as done by the Apostles. In the Old Testament through His Prophets.
The Baptism is a complete immersion in the Spirit, an overwhelming experience of his presence, that is available to everyone. The Spirit is poured out, and believers are filled and immersed. The difference with the new experience of the Spirit is sheer abundance. (Note the disciples were actually drunk on the Spirit, Acts 2:13-17). Then, the Gospel is proclaimed with power, but the entire spiritual life of the believer becomes more intense, and he is introduced to supernatural power.
But the real issue with the Cessationists is -- what is the evidence of receiving Spirit Baptism. Pentecostals maintain it is speaking with other tongues, Acts 2:2,3; 10:44-46; 19:6.
Yes. You can say
The indwelling of the Holy Spirit like
Getting a new charging cable
But the baptism of the Holy Spirit is like getting the electricity running in the charging cable
No one in all the Bible was ever "immersed" in the Spirit.
@@jeffpaton9667 .. or charged up like an iPhone .
@@jeffpaton9667 Immersion constitutes the actual definition of "baptized." Note Matthew 3:11, "he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire."
@@mpaulwebb8345 Nonsense. Immersion in Scripture is for destruction. No Christian in all of Scripture is ever shown to be immersed. Notice that Matthew 3:11 say to be baptized "with" the Holy Spirit. This is showing that the element (Holy Spirit or water,) is applied to the subject (a person) and not the other way around by taking the person and applying it into, or under water or the Spirit.
You cannot be a Christian without the Holy Spirit. Romans 8:9, "Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him." 1 John 4:13, "By this we know that we abide in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit."
If the baptism of the Spirit is synonymous with the Spirit coming upon people, the why does John the Baptist single out Jesus’s ministry as different because He would baptize (immerse) with the Spirit instead of water?
John baulked at baptizing Jesus because he knew that Jesus had no need of repentance for sin. Jesus told him that he must for all righteousness to be fulfilled. Jesus was not there for remission of sins, but ceremonial cleansing required in the Old Testament before one entered the ministry. There is nothing else I know of that could have fulfilled a command in the Old Testament that one can make reference to, other than that. There is no command to immerse in all the Old Testament, but there is ceremonial sprinkling and pouring!
Stay blessed brother
Then paul lied, he said there was one baptism.
Hebrews 6:2 shows that there are multiple baptisms
I addressed that verse in the video
Good man! I read these comments before actually watching the whole video, so sorry if you have already covered it.
I respect your interpretation brother. However, I do disagree with it a bit. As you said the people who don't have the 'boldness' to preach, I think that that's a matter of God granting the "gift of faith", as mentioned in 1 Cor 12. I don't believe the gift of faith there is only referring to a saving faith in Christ, but rather a gift of unwavering, uncompromising faith aka "being filled with the Holy Spirit" and boldness, and perseverance such as seen with Paul in Phil 4, Noah, any many other examples. I think being 'filled with the Spirit' is different from 'Baptism of the Spirit'. After Pentecost, now that the Spirit is available, we are 'baptized with the Spirit at Salvation, however in times of our own feebleness and lack of boldness, fear etc, God can grant us the gift of faith to empower us to move forward, despite our failings.
Because otherwise every single believer who has been 'baptized with the Spirt' would never ever be afraid or nervousness or failings in their flesh, if the Baptism of the Spirit, being separate from salvation, is what empowers us. Obviously, the Holy Spirit inside of us empowers us, gives us gifts, etc (including the gift of faith), but obviously we humans fail and that's why He gives us the gift of faith from 1 Cor 12, when we fail, He picks us up and empowers us to do His Will.
Verse to consider: Ephesians 5:18, and Galatians chapter 2 when Paul is talking about his rebuke of Peter. In that passage, Peter at this point was clearly 'baptized with the Spirt' as this was well after Pentecost, however Peter did not have the faith or boldness to stand up and speak up for the gentile Christinas in from of the Jewish Christinas and He played favoritism. However, Paul, seemingly being filled with The Spirit at this moment, rebuked Peter in front of all, which I imagine would have been adaunting task for anyone in their own flesh, to rebuke the Rock (Peter). I think all of this boils more down to the gift of faith rather than Baptism of the Spirit.
And just like divine heart hardening doesn't necessarily seem to be absolute as God hardened pharoahs heart multiple times, I think the gift of faith may possibly not be absolute either since they were filled with Holy Spirit more than once, Acts 2 and Acts 4:31.
All in all, i would say that a more proper understanding of the general idea of being 'baptized with the Spirit' would more properly be described as the gift of faith from 1 Cor 12. Anway, I respect your brother. And love your videos. God Bless!
Thank you for this teaching 😊 I learnt something !
You are very welcome
Remember what Jesus said to Nichodimas about being born again
I believe that baptism of the Holy Spirit is when you become born again. John baptised with water. But Jesus baptised with the Holy Spirit and with Fire. I believe that baptism of fire is a second anointing. You can receive both at the same time like Apostle Paul or receive at a different time like Billy Graham did.
The baptism of fire mentioned by John the Baptist, is explained by John himself in the context :
Matthew 3:10 Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Then we have the well known verse :
11 “I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
Then an explanation :
12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.”
Those baptised in the Holy Spirit are the wheat, gathering into the barn while the others are the chaff that will burn with unquenchable fire (baptised with fire)
I know this is not about this topic, but do you know good mission organizations that are not involved in the ecumenical agenda?
Platform67
Watch John MacArthur.., not Wilkerson.!!!
@@OldGuy70sI don’t think so
@@OldGuy70sIsn't John MacArthur a Calvinist cessationist?
Hey Caleb. How would you explain the following verse if indeed there’s a difference between being baptized in the Holy Spirit and being born again?
1 Corinthians 12:13 “For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body. Whether Jews or Greeks or slaves or free, we were all made to drink of the one Spirit.”
We see here that one becomes a member of the body of Christ when they are baptized in the Spirit. Otherwise we can say that you can be a member of the body of Christ without receiving the Holy Spirit? That’s not right. See the following verses why I’m saying this.. Romans 8:9, 1 Corinthian 12:13, Acts 8:15-16, 10:44-47, 19:1-6
These verses prove that receiving the Holy Spirit, being baptized in the Holy Spirit, the initial “coming upon” of the Holy Spirit, the initial “filling” of the Holy Spirit, are all synonymous terms.
Please read David Pawson’s books The Normal Christian Birth and Jesus Baptizes in One Holy Spirit to understand the full scope of this
I talked about that verse in the video. David Pawson actually agrees with me in that book.
@@iThinkBiblically Caleb, all you did was state what Martin Lloyd Jones said about that verse. That’s not responsible. And no, David Pawson does not agree with you on this. I read his book multiple times. David Pawson says that you become a member of the body of Christ WHEN you are baptized in the Holy Spirit, aka receive the Holy Spirit. Because according to Romans 8:9, if you do not have the Holy Spirit, you don’t belong to Christ.
I disagree that tongues are just and earthly language.
The bible says in Mark 16:17 that we will speak in new language not a different language.
Apostle Paul said he spoke in human language and angelic language. (1 Corin 13:1)
1 Corinthians 14:2
[2] For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries.
I have to disagree. The Holy Spirit is one of the three persons of God. I find the Pentecostal movement’s treatment of God less than reverent and dishonors Christianity. The abuse seen with senseless babbling and baby talk is just sad and disrespectful.
The passage you're talking about has a plain meaning and you are guessing as to what you think it should mean.
I haven't believed in The Baptism of The Holy Spirit in years. There is so much wrong with pentecostaliism.
As an example, could this be someone who has always been anxious, going out to witness on the street? Even if they dont speak in tongues maybe?
Caleb, not to mention DL Moody and RA Torrey. Both giants in the faith, like David Wilkerson and AW Tozer. Torrey was Pastor at Moody Church and also founded BIOLA on the West Coast. I recommend his book: ‘Baptism with the Holy Spirit’. 🙏
So you have the Scripture right in front of your eyes and because it disagrees with your opinion you want us to look outside of its plain meaning. Isn't that what you told people not to do?
No, I rebuke you for lying. Ephesians 1:13.
Calm down, this is not a salvation issue nor is it an issue worth rebuking people over.
@@iThinkBiblically How is there salvation without the Holy Spirit. Through the Holy Spirit we are sealed in Christ. This is a salvation issue. I do rebuke you for decieving people, this is heresy.
@@FollowerofChrist12Upto Christians to research what he is saying.
@@FollowerofChrist12I want my Holy Ghost and looking back not meaning to. And I was not thinking
Please pray. I don’t want to be in the world and cut off
Why does God want me not in THE HOLY GHOST
WHY
Romans 8:9
You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[d] because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of[e] his Spirit who lives in you.
I’d say that’s definite proof that every true believer has the Holy Spirit indwelling them.
But I do believe the coming upon of the Holy Spirit and being ‘filled’ with the Spirit are movements of the Spirit which empower us to prophesy and preach and preform miracles etc.
perhaps even the baptism of the spirit is a separate event of the indwelling that endows one with gifts. Don’t know.
I received the Holy Spirit during water baptism.
I’ve had His Spirt within me and around me since.
Ephians4;…4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
There is one baptism that is in the name of Jesus Christ and same is baptism of the Holy Spirit. Baptism of John was just a shadow of it.People have no courage to witness cause they have free will even tough God gives them boldness to do so they refuse cause of own choice. If baptism of Holy Spirit gives you strenght and Boldness overpowering all then Kat Kerr and Benny Hinn are baptised cause they have boldness to prophesy.
Yes true & they preach a false Gospel & a false baptism of the Holy Spirit & that you do not have it when you are saved.
But Kerr and Hinn are false prophets and have a boldness to lie and deceive - not to prophesy.
@@leialee6820 Yes, they preach a false gospel because they are not saved. However, that does not negate the reality of the "second blessing" - a baptism in the Holy Spirit AFTER being born again (as we see in Acts 8:14-17) ... a baptism for service and empowerment to witness.
@@Ancient-Paths So you saying there poor christians who have nothing but some salvation and there is elite christians who have empowerment? To me it seems just another church dividing doctrine which is simply not true cause that would be similar election for no reason like calvinists teach.
@@Ancient-Paths on the other hand speaking in tongues and prophesying falsely with boldlness is considered as from Holy Spirit and my meaning is that prophesying, speaking in tongues and preaching the Gospel needs to be from Holy Spirit that it would be true. So boldness and active participation does not prove anything cause with time many just start doing false preaching and teaching even tough they have started good.Because many teachers have come but not many are sent.
In the Syrian move of God this is what Jesus said would happen as to how the Word of God to the gentiles were to happen. So it was proper that the Apostles were sent there as a sign that these gentiles have been accepted in Gods plan.
Your comment here about believing in two baptisms is simply a straw man argument and shouldn't have been stated.
It wasnt God hovering over the waters. It was the spirit of God.
The Spirit of God hovering over the waters, was still God, the 3 that are One.
@@balung stfu we already know
You have referred to the Holy Spirit twice as an “it”. Care to elaborate?
Thank you so much for this message.
I would like request you to make a video on regeneration and clarify on what Jesus said to Nicodemus in John 3 saying, “… unless one is born of Spirit and water”
So who is the Father of Jesus? YHWH or the coequal 3rd person of the trinity? It was the 3rd person (Holy Spirit) who conceived Jesus in Mary's womb According to Catholic doctrine. And you can't claim it was the Father due to the strict definition of the trinity doctrine set by the church. The Father cannot be the 3rd person Holy Spirit and vice versa.
Sooner or later Christians are going to discover that what they have believed for over 1700 years is a concoction of the blind guides in the catholic church that developed the false doctrine over the following centuries after 70 ad. It contradicts everything Yhwh said about himself over 6k times just so there wasn't any confusion. Yet, the church has followed after a man they claim is God Almighty directly refuting YHWH himself. Instead of following after the LIGHT of Truth and studying to show themselves approved. It all crumbles to reveal the truth. Just as promised, the church would be blinded in-part until the very end, in the day of affliction their eyes will be opened and they will know the Father. Jer 16:19-21. He ALONE is God. There is NO OTHER. Isaiah 43:11, 45:5-7. He is our only savior. Jude 1:25 (original kjv).
No man has ever seen God at any time and he has no form. If people can't even comprehend the 1st commandment then they deserve to be deceived.
THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT happens the moment you are born again by believing the true gospel. " ...born of the Spirit. "--John 3:3,8 "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body..."--I Cor.12:13 Believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit forever !! see Ephes.1:13,4:30 THE FILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is different, it happens after we are born again when we stay in fellowship with Almighty Jesus by obeying His word, and by asking to be filled !! It is the power from on high, power for soul winning !! "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit." --Ephes.5:18, 19-21, " And when they had prayed...they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." --Acts 4:31,33, Acts 11:22-24, Luke 24:47-49, Luke 11:13, I John 3:22, Matt.7:7,8, Zech.4:6
Firstly 😊
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit, we all get when we confess
Christ Jesus and then receive The Baptistism of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit right then. There is no such thing as saved and you didn't recive The Indwelling Baptistism of the Holy Spirit Romsns 8-9-11.
John 3:3-8
King James Version
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Without the cross and the shedding of His Blood there could be no regeneration. This is simply false to say they were saved prior to the death and resurrection.
GRECO-ROMAN CHRISTIANITY OR JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY?
Given the fact that Jesus is not one of the many sons of Zeus, the god of the Greeks, and that the God of Abraham had never promised a Son to Israel but the Messiah (HaMashiak) which the Greek forgers and fiddlers translated as “Christos” as it is written:
"I will raise among them the Messiah(Christos)HaMashiak, a Prophet(Messenger) like you Moses, Him they must listen..."
Deut.18:15-19; Acts 3:17-24; Acts 7:1-30; Luke 24:25-27 and 44-47; Acts 17:1-3; John 4:24-25, Surah 3:81, etc.
So Messiah(Christ) is a Prophet in the likeness of Moses as Matthew proved it. Like Moses He stayed in Egypt. Like Moses He is Mediator of a New Covenant.
Considering that the Gospel that Paul proclaimed to the world mentions JESUS CHRIST SON OF GOD and not just JESUS.
Therefore, we can deduce that Trinity is a misunderstanding of the Pauline doxology of “Father, Son, and Holy Spirit”!
Because between Jesus Christ (HaMashiak) Son of God and Jesus Son of God... there is a great philosophical and legal difference if we take for legal framework the TEN COMMANDMENTS and the social environment where Jesus was born!
John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Ephesians 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
2 Timothy 1:6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.
1 Timothy 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
This man is so out of context to prove his denominationalism.
He keeps saying I think because he is regurgitating what he heard not studied in context.
If you have to ask, you don't got it.
Ask what?
@@cooldog60 Never mind, you don't got it.
The fruit of the Spirit is patience, gentleness etc. So be patient and gentle.
@@iThinkBiblically 😂😂
@@winterwolf2012 No I don't got it. That is why I am asking.
He that hath not the Spirit of Christ is none of His.
Oh look you have some books
You must be legit 😂😂😂😂
In Pentecostal theology Baptism of the Holy Spirit is to be accompanied by speaking in tongues. If the person doesn’t speak in tongues there is no evidence to say they have received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. It’s speak in tongues first and then you are empowered to witness.
Yeah, I would disagree with that
I would also disagree with this being preached in Pentecostal churches & if it is then it is incorrect & wrong.
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